was on gingerbread. waited and waited for the OTA updated. ended up rooting. ice cream sandwich update came out and couldn't get it OTA. used Kies and installed the update. finally, now have ICS. lost root access. so anyone out there with the official ics? recommend what to do now!
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was on gingerbread. waited and waited for the OTA updated. ended up rooting. ice cream sandwich update came out and couldn't get it OTA. used Kies and installed the update. finally, now have ICS. lost root access. so anyone out there with the official ics? recommend what to do now!
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I'd flash a ROM. I recommend CM10 to have Jelly Bean! There are a lot of ROMS in the dev section. Go choose one. Make sure you flash a recovery!
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I'll second the recommendation to go to a JB based rom.
any convincing wins for the JB release? as i am pretty content with what i have on ICS. everything has been smooth so far, nothing buggy at all.
improvements todo: root, remove bloatware, get wifi tethering to work (currently broadcasts signal but devices cannot connect - says connection is unsuccessful)
here are my screenshots (if i should get something else):
1. Lock screen - I noticed the text notification that appears turned black in ics, which i like. it just blends in with my lock screen wallpaper. going for the simple dark black wallpaper for longer battery life? i guess haha
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2. Screen 1 - man that weather widget that comes with Eye in the Sky is the best weather app! plain simple
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3. Screen 2 - My home screen with a black google search bar that came with ics, yay! also using Widgetsoid with those widgets that i happen to use quite often.
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4. Screen 3 - Well more Widgetsoid action going here. This is my utilities section. I just decided to turn my regular icons into the widgetsoid theme. The weather is actually USB tethering now here. I am enjoying the sound recorder and flashlight of easy access.
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so yep, recommend widgetsoid and eye in the sky. AND I AM A NOOB ON XDA CAN'T POST LINKS OR PICS
Swype is a little slow in messaging for some reason. A weird icon appears every time at the top of notifications indicating 'Swype in use' so that may be making swype a bit more laggy. ANYONE EXPERIENCE THIS? this new icon appears in ics and not gingerbread. what about JB?
There is the Tweaked ICS rom also if you do like ICS. It's already debloated and optimized. The Swpye icon can be diasbled in the swype options.
Also you can disable most the bloatware now that you are on the stock ICS. Go to settings > apps > select "all" and disable what you want (if it can be).
As for JB, they are all pretty good (bug free). I'm currently using Slim Bean 3.1 with the inverted packages, but you really can't go wrong with any of them. Try them and find out. But you still have to flash CWM and make a backup with it first thing.
GL and enjoy.
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There is the Tweaked ICS rom also if you do like ICS. It's already debloated and optimized. The Swpye icon can be diasbled in the swype options.
Also you can disable most the bloatware now that you are on the stock ICS. Go to settings > apps > select "all" and disable what you want (if it can be).
As for JB, they are all pretty good (bug free). I'm currently using Slim Bean 3.1 with the inverted packages, but you really can't go wrong with any of them. Try them and find out. But you still have to flash CWM and make a backup with it first thing.
GL and enjoy.
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Whoa didn't know you can disable apps, nice!
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Whoa didn't know you can disable apps, nice!
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Some may need to have the updates uninstalled first, it's in the same location.
it seems like i was able to do a lot of stuff already without rooting. thanks to the disable app feature in ICS, it is pretty much like titanium backup. ended up bypassing the built-in hotspot check and can tether wifi.
well, i ended up rooting. so what am i to use root features on?
guess i can only think of AdFree. also, i can permanently remove disabled apps. anything else to take advantage of root access?
If you go to a Jellybean based rom, most of them have button light notifications. "What is that?", you may ask...
The blaze doesn't have an LED to visually notify you if a call came or a message came...sure, the screen can activate when the call is coming, but if you're in the other room and don't hear it, or if the phone is on silent and you don't see it, you'll never know about it until you actually check your phone by turning on the screen...
Which many people do INCESSANTLY.
Button light notifications can enable the back/home/voice/settings LED to light up so you can be notified of it. It's nice to have.
Also, Google Now works by default with JellyBean, no funny business required. I had Google Now on rooted ICS and I liked it, but the only one that works on ICS for our phone is of course a much older version of Now, and it doesn't support certain features.
Google now is great, check it out on youtube or something.
This might get asked a lot but how is the battery life on JB??
For ICS, I'm currently charging about once every 1.5 days. I usually charge it at night, sometimes I can skip one night and charge it the night after. Sometimes I do use the phone a lot during the day and need to charge it within the next night, maybe even within half a day, but rarely. Sometimes I just charge it at work, so ~1.5 days. To get the 2 days worth, I'm usually Airplane mode-ing it when I'm definitely not going to be looking at my phone, such as at work except for breaks - I can probably go 2.5 days like this, but I still charge at 2.
How does JB compare?
This is from cm10
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That must've been the nightlies back in November huh lol
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I've been running stock 4.1.2 (rooted) for a while now, and after really slow performance, steadily worsening battery life, and general annoyances like random reboots, Blue Screens, and other annoyances like duplicated incoming SMSs, I figure it's time to take the plunge and install a custom ROM and maybe even a fresh kernel.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to devote to experimenting with all the different ROMs out there for this phone, and was wondering if I were to list out what I usually use the phone for and what apps I run most of the time if it would be possible for people to recommend which one would be a good fit to try as my first.
(I know this'll mean missing out on all the fun of having so many choices, and when I have more time later, I'll see what I can do about exploring the other options.)
I make heavy use of SMS, although often times my messages are laggy to send and receive (I don't know if this is a problem with my phone or T-Mobile). Incoming messages sometimes get repeated multiple times for no apparent reason. My current SMS default is EvolveSMS, but I had similar issues with GOSMS.
I also play Ingress, so any bugginess in the GPS would be a deal breaker.
Voice calling is sometimes problematic as well. When I make outgoing calls, it sometimes take 30 seconds for the phone app to load., With incoming calls, I may get the ringtone, but no screen to accept or reject the call.
I run the xposed framework for a handful of modules (All Notifications Expanded, and Buttered Toast)
I'm using Nova Launcher for my homescreen, because of the ability to set a grid size, use custom icons, overlap icons on top of widgets, and lock the homescreen configuration from accidental changes. A ROM that would do the same things natively without having to run a homescreen replacer would be welcome.
I'm also interested in running on my external SD, Is that something I should set up prior to flashing the new ROM, or can that only be done after the ROM is installed?
Team Apex have done some great work. By now they know the hardware very well, having done the initial dev work back on CM9, all the way up to the current CM11 and now Omnirom systems. Their current efforts are focused on the Omnirom-based Omnitoad project. It's at a point where it works very well. I suggest starting there.
The stock roms and the earlier CM roms all have a bug where the compass reads totally wrong after a reboot until you recalibrate it. This was finally fixed in the CM11-based ROMs. That should help Ingress.
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I've been running stock 4.1.2 (rooted) for a while now, and after really slow performance, steadily worsening battery life, and general annoyances like random reboots, Blue Screens, and other annoyances like duplicated incoming SMSs, I figure it's time to take the plunge and install a custom ROM and maybe even a fresh kernel.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to devote to experimenting with all the different ROMs out there for this phone, and was wondering if I were to list out what I usually use the phone for and what apps I run most of the time if it would be possible for people to recommend which one would be a good fit to try as my first.
(I know this'll mean missing out on all the fun of having so many choices, and when I have more time later, I'll see what I can do about exploring the other options.)
I make heavy use of SMS, although often times my messages are laggy to send and receive (I don't know if this is a problem with my phone or T-Mobile). Incoming messages sometimes get repeated multiple times for no apparent reason. My current SMS default is EvolveSMS, but I had similar issues with GOSMS.
I also play Ingress, so any bugginess in the GPS would be a deal breaker.
Voice calling is sometimes problematic as well. When I make outgoing calls, it sometimes take 30 seconds for the phone app to load., With incoming calls, I may get the ringtone, but no screen to accept or reject the call.
I run the xposed framework for a handful of modules (All Notifications Expanded, and Buttered Toast)
I'm using Nova Launcher for my homescreen, because of the ability to set a grid size, use custom icons, overlap icons on top of widgets, and lock the homescreen configuration from accidental changes. A ROM that would do the same things natively without having to run a homescreen replacer would be welcome.
I'm also interested in running on my external SD, Is that something I should set up prior to flashing the new ROM, or can that only be done after the ROM is installed?
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to be fully honest though...i do highly recommend flashing my B14CKB1RD kernel on whatever 4.4 kit kat rom you use if you want best stability and battery life...its been proven that at the end of the day your rom will have alot of batterly life remaining compared to stock....whats good about my kernel is that you control how you want the phone to work...where as with TeamApexQ stock kernels you are locked to that one state and also has an mpdec touchboost enabled that boosts your cpu core to 1134mhz minimum speed when you touch the screen thus rapidly draining your battery... I'm in no way saying the work they have done isnt great....theyve done a hell of a job bringing the device to the stability its at today... it just brings that much more stability outta any rom you use
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to be fully honest though...i do highly recommend flashing my B14CKB1RD kernel on whatever 4.4 kit kat rom you use if you want best stability and battery life...its been proven that at the end of the day your rom will have alot of batterly life remaining compared to stock....whats good about my kernel is that you control how you want the phone to work...where as with TeamApexQ stock kernels you are locked to that one state and also has an mpdec touchboost enabled that boosts your cpu core to 1134mhz minimum speed when you touch the screen thus rapidly draining your battery... I'm in no way saying the work they have done isnt great....theyve done a hell of a job bringing the device to the stability its at today... it just brings that much more stability outta any rom you use
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mpdec and touchboost are two separate concepts. Touchboost boosts the second core to 1134 Mhz when you are using the display in order to make the phone more responsive. Mpdec turns off the second core when not in use and conserves a huge amount of battery. On OmniToad, with the standard kernel on it, I usually get 60 hours + per charge of medium use. I've been using OmniToad continuously, and since the beginning of it, I have not personally had any reboot that was not initiated by myself.
Um dude you do know your touchboost is mpdecision based right?....look at the defconfig...and to be honest my kernel works just as smooth if not smoother than the stock kernel of omni without it...using omni on stock kernel I wald have 40% battery come 11pm my time when unplugged at 7am...on my kernel I'll have anywhere between 65% and 70% with same usage and hours
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One other thing about touchboost, which will hopefully bring us all out of ignorance of it as I am tired of the constant FUD about it. It is the 'touch responsiveness' portion of Google's "Project Butter" initiative. It is a standard Android/AOSP feature enjoyed by Nexus owners since Android 4.1.x.
One more thing. It is a UI deficiency that the performance settings apps show 1134Mhz as min cpu when using touchboost. In kernel mpdec will run the cpus at 384mhz unless something needs more, or the cores will sleep. Now you know the facts. Let's stop spreading misinformation. Thanks.
Not spreading misinformation...my builds and the community have even spoken of the better battery my kernel and ROMs have with it disabled and removed....even flashing my kernel over omni the phone instantly stopped overheating and lost maybe a percent in 2 hours with moderate use.... I just love how as soon as I came to the relay you guys judged me as a noob and all the name calling and what not....it's your teams loss...all my gain...good luck
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In my opinion, I try all the roms available for relay right now, the better performance I have was with liquid ROM and blackbird kernel. Omni is smooth but the battery its not the best for my phone with my personal use, and with GPS and plugged to the car charger i got overheating. Carbon got better battery than omni and better customization options but not smoother. Liquid have all you need in a ROM, personalization, full control and with the kernel blackbird and Wheatley and sio configuration have the better performance and battery at all ROM I try
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So, I tried OmniToad for a bit. Wasn't really impressed with the compass fix mentioned above, because even after flashing it was still quite ill-behaved in Ingress.
I also couldn't get the External 2 Internal SD Card swap to work -- the storage tab kept reporting my internal as 5 gig and the external as 64gig. This was after trying two different microSDs.
So, because of those two issues, and being not too far along in re installing everything, I decided to flash again, with the Blackbird Kernel and Liquid Smooth.
Now, when I try to boot. it hangs on the screen with the ApexQ green penguin. If I try for recovery mode I'll get the blue text that says booting into recovery, and then it goes to the penguin again. Trying to boot to download mode also just gives me the penguin.
Troubleshooting suggestions? Because right now, I'm without any clue as to what to do next, and without a phone for that matter.
[Edit: Just got into recovery, so going to try flashing back to OmniToad]
[Edit 2, Electric Boogaloo: Back on the Toad for now, Seems to be working. Thoughts on how to get things running on my external SD? Is it maybe an issue with KitKat based roms?]
I'll guide you through it...my roms shouldn't show anything teamapexq related ...what recovery were you using...and have you tried heimdall or ODIN
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I'll guide you through it...my roms shouldn't show anything teamapexq related ...what recovery were you using...and have you tried heimdall or ODIN
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Recovery is TeamWin, and I was finally able to get back into it. Put OmniToad back on it for the time being. If you wanted to put up a step by step for going from Omni to Liquid, I can give it a try, because at this point, I'm pretty sure it was a "ID Ten T "error.
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mpdec and touchboost are two separate concepts. Touchboost boosts the second core to 1134 Mhz when you are using the display in order to make the phone more responsive. Mpdec turns off the second core when not in use and conserves a huge amount of battery. On OmniToad, with the standard kernel on it, I usually get 60 hours + per charge of medium use. I've been using OmniToad continuously, and since the beginning of it, I have not personally had any reboot that was not initiated by myself.
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Did u just say 60+ hours of use??
How?? What do u mean by medium use?? Are you using the stock battery??
That's only possible with screen off with no use in that 60 hours and the phone going into deepsleep...either that or he's using an extended battery....with very minimal use....also proof or it didn't happen
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@radwolf76 I sent you a pm
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I ended up partitioning my external SD card so I could use Mounts2SD. Seems to be working so far.
Now I just have to get all my stuff put back on this thing and figure out how the extra features of LiquidSmooth are going to fit into my workflows.
One thing that seems to be a minor annoyance, probably because I just haven't found the toggle for it yet: on stock, I used to be able to wake the phone from the home button and the screen would pop on instantly. Under both custom ROMs I've tried, it seems a lot harder to wake the phone. The power button seems to be the only thing that works, and I have to stab at it repeatedly. I almost suspect that I'm waking it up and puttting it back to sleep before the screen comes on, but I can't seem to find anything that consistently works. Like I said, it's probably something I just need to toggle under settings.
The home button's actual switch is in the center of the button, while the design allows the button to tip sideways. So if you press it on a corner instead of the middle, the phone sometimes won't recognize it.
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I ended up partitioning my external SD card so I could use Mounts2SD. Seems to be working so far.
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I may have spoken too soon. Getting all sorts of apps stopping on me now. Launcher3, Hangouts, Ingress, Settings...
Also, Launcher3 seems to 'forget' homescreen layouts every so often... some times I'll be going back to blank homescreens, and then after poking around in other apps, the homescreen will be back to the original configuration.
Ingress also acts like it can't see Location Services most of the time.
Also, sometimes when I reboot, it takes up to 20 minutes before the phone's back up and running.
While I can't discount that it was any of the number of apps I've put back on the thing, I'm pretty sure that Mounts2SD is the smoking gun here. these problems didn't start until after I had started using it. The symptoms seem about right.
I'm wondering if there's a conflict between Mounts2SD and the governor/scheduler I'm running (Wheatley/SIO).
I'd rather not have to troubleshoot this, but one of my main goals with starting fresh on this was to be able to store and run apps on my External SD, preferably without having to fuss with it on a per-folder basis. So if anyone has had any success in that department, I'd love to hear some tips that point me in the right direction.
[Edit: Turns out Mounts2SD overrides the governor/scheduler choices anyway. I think, that when I get off work I'm going to start fresh again over my next few days off, and try using Link2SD instead.]
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I may have spoken too soon. Getting all sorts of apps stopping on me now. Launcher3, Hangouts, Ingress, Settings...
Also, Launcher3 seems to 'forget' homescreen layouts every so often... some times I'll be going back to blank homescreens, and then after poking around in other apps, the homescreen will be back to the original configuration.
Ingress also acts like it can't see Location Services most of the time.
Also, sometimes when I reboot, it takes up to 20 minutes before the phone's back up and running.
While I can't discount that it was any of the number of apps I've put back on the thing, I'm pretty sure that Mounts2SD is the smoking gun here. these problems didn't start until after I had started using it. The symptoms seem about right.
I'm wondering if there's a conflict between Mounts2SD and the governor/scheduler I'm running (Wheatley/SIO).
I'd rather not have to troubleshoot this, but one of my main goals with starting fresh on this was to be able to store and run apps on my External SD, preferably without having to fuss with it on a per-folder basis. So if anyone has had any success in that department, I'd love to hear some tips that point me in the right direction.
[Edit: Turns out Mounts2SD overrides the governor/scheduler choices anyway. I think, that when I get off work I'm going to start fresh again over my next few days off, and try using Link2SD instead.]
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well i use nova launcher.....launcher 3 and google launcher in my opinion isnt the best of launchers...there is other options i mentioned in a pm before to storing apps on sd and is alot easier than fiddling looking for the right app ....what also gives you the assumption it messes with governer or scheduler....i know by default there is settings for sd read ahead write ahead scheduling but that app shouldnt have control in changing any of this
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what also gives you the assumption it messes with governer or scheduler....i know by default there is settings for sd read ahead write ahead scheduling but that app shouldnt have control in changing any of this
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This post from another user in the Mounts2SD thread. They might be mistaken, but either way, my problems started cropping up after I installed that app, and if there's a chance that poster is right about it setting those things, that's just another reason for me to uninstall it.
right now Carbon wins
I've tried them all, Liquid smooth is awesome but the latest built gave me some blackscreen issues until the next built go with carbon if you want some nice features or slim for a nice overall rom.
Don't forget to install the Blackbird kernel for a even better result.
Peace!
[Q] Remove "Performance" without decompiling the apk, removing it, and recompiling?
the performance option in settings is totally in my way and it keeps changing everything without me even asking it too. I'm using Mahdi Rom on my moto G, & I used to use SetCPU, but now I'm trying to use trickster mod. Every time I reboot the phone it immediately brings it back to the balanced profile, &, as is a very serious problem with a lot of moto G's, the minimum frequency ends up back at 1190. I forgot to mention that I'm using Xperience kernel 18, with a mild overclock, but I'm getting sick of this frequency change, it keeps rolling it back to the same thing and I can't get it to stick, and even by disabling MP decision, and enabling Intelli plug. Does anyone have a trick for removing or disabling "Performance" in a CM11 based ROM without pulling the apk out of the ROM, decompiling it, removing the option that way, recompiling the apk, and then re- inserting it into the ROM? I know that works, but it's a massive, time-consuming pain, but I'm at the end of my rope, so that's what I'm about to do if there's no other option.
any help would be greatly appreciated.also, this is been a problem in every CyanogenMod based rom that I have used on my moto G, & I have used pretty much all of them. I actually really loved spirit ROM, but the kernel Tweaker was just out of control, changing all kinds of stuff without any warning or reason, so, this isnt a new problem for me, & I am pretty savvy with Android, but I just can't figure this one out. &, just so everything clear, I don't have any other application that would be conflicting with anything else that would cause this to happen. But when I do have another application like trickster mod or SetCPU, it just fights with performance, & I don't want to disable all the developer settings, because it seems that that's the only option to make it stop.
I'm going to post a logcat as soon as I get home, but I figured I'd post this question in case somebody has a quick answer or has been through this before and knows what to do.
Thanks,
- Jackson
Issue: Having anything I do interrupted by random, useless WhatsApp messages or other notifications because of Google's glorious decision to force iPhone-style intrusive notifications on us with Lollipop
After doing some research, I've found a ROM called Cataclysm that seems to fix this problem nicely. Problem being, its dev only cares about outdated devices like the Nexus 5.
I've tried the SlimSaber and BlissPop ROMs, both of which feature a supposedly working option in the app-specific notification settings.
However, on neither of these, the switch actually changed anything.
I've tried enabling WhatsApp's internal "Show a pop-up" to "When screen is off", and that's partially a solution. Now, as long as the screen is on, notifications move nicely to the status bar: Just where they belong. Problem being: Whenever the screen is off, I get the useless pop-up whenever I receive a message (Working as intended though, not WhatsApp's fault).
I remember that, mid-December, a LiquidSmooth Lollipop build (03/12 or 08/12) did not feature such notifications, which was amazing. It did randomly restart every 10 minutes or so though.
Have any of you found a solution for that issue? I'm sure I'm not the only one being annoyed by Google's awesome new features, this alongside with the removal of silent mode.
It's the first time for a long while I've held back on getting to newer Android version, because right now, Lollipop is just crap in these two aspects. Here's to hoping Android 5.1 will unf*ck most of these errors.
I've finally found a temporary workaround.
Using a version of Whatsapp previous to 4.11.444 results in Whatsapp actually respecting the settings.
Why this was removed in 444, only the mildly incompetent developers are Whatsapp are ever going to know.
Still, I had hoped Google would be a bit more thorough with enforcing settings - not allowing individual devs to override global settings.
I'm trying to use lastpass with this phone, and after turning on the accessibility services it requires, every reboot it seems to turn it back off again (For this and for Microsoft Launcher).
I really love this phones hardware , but coming from Samsung, the software has so many issues, other than the fact that theres a bunch of chinese apps that cant be removed, Work profile is really buggy due to how over the top they are with permissions, and every app i install i have to manually tick every permission as well.
Does anyone know how to get lastpass to work between boots ? Can't wait until there is other ROM"s available for this phone. It's so fast and good looking, the camera is great and the charging speed is fantastic. Just this permission thing they've done is extreme overkill, and makes so many apps fail.
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Using Bitwarden here and the same thing happens to me.
Anyone flashed EU ROM? Any thoughts on the matter?
My thoughts are you should use it no matter what. it fixes so many issues and bakes in Google. You still get odd MIUI issues -at this point you should be prepared to opt in all permissions for whatever apps you need
As for this? Haven't checked lastpass but I've turned some accessibility stuff on. Nothing vanishes between reboots
Just get on the eu ROM. I can't find any problems!