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[Q] Had desire s unlocked/s-off please read

Hello as title says i got my desire S unlocked/ s-off due to not been able to succsesfly temp root.(had it done with xtc clip, gold card made s-off and unlocked £15 docter mobile Bradford town center )
Anyway i flashed the saga ruu rom fine to remove the virginmedia rom and everything went well ( i'm going to have a play with custom roms later etc)
But now i keep getting offered ota updates for the saga rom,part of me wants to execpt this but BUT obviously i don't need to to as everything as been done to my phone.
Do you think Htc are rolling out the unlocked bootloader update for this rom,has any one exepted the update, if i exepted it would it return my phone to a locked bootloader?
Also i scanded the Phone from my pc with (paid license) avg 2011 and its reporting
Virus/object name D:\RavMon.exe \Tronjan horse Generic2.Utc
Is this a fasle positve ?? or do i need to start worrying i have'nt used the phone to log into anything yet due to this

Dont think that HTC will be rolling out any update without a press conference first tbh. Probably just some rom updates to your custom rom.

lennshow66 said:
Dont think that HTC will be rolling out any update without a press conference first tbh. Probably just some rom updates to your custom rom.
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It's not the updates that worry me, its the virus dection on on the phone (ravMon.exe)
After having thru phone s-off ,but I think It's the gold card that holds the threat

[Q] Help back to S-ON sensation

Hi everybody, i'm new on this forum 'cause i'm french indeed i spend my time on Frandroid.fr !
First of all i would like to say sorry for my bad english i'll use i'm just trying to do my best in order to you can read this message.
So, i'm here because i have a problem with my HTC sensation, he had the problem that he powered off all the time even when i didn't use it. To escape this problem i flashed an ICS ROM with Recovery etc.. Then the problem hasn't been resolved so i decided to send my phone at the warranty, but before i have to put my sensation in S-ON, so i used the RUU VODAFONE and i changed my CID in VODPA203. I've seen that there were 3 steps before put the phone in S-ON, first i must have an Hboot less than 1.18 that i have, second be in official ROM that i have and the last step is have a CID HTC that i have (VODAP203).
The problem i have is that on the bootloader, i haven't got the ***LOCKED*** at the top of the screen (sorry i can't put my photo links yet...)
In other words, i THINK, but i'm not sure that my bootloader is not LOCKED.
So can i do the process in order to put my phone in S-ON without the ***LOCKED*** ? Is it risky to do it without ?
I hope that you'll understand my message because it's probably bad english, and a bit to long but i think that i had to explain my problem to you understand.
Thank you, Sharazed.

Not clear enough but not for the english.
What your bootloader says? **unlocked** or **locked** (I think unlocked).
If you attempt to lock again by HtcDev it will show **re-locked**.
The bootloader is now officially unlockable by htc so I wouldn't worry about it.
Not clear if you went back to s-on already or not.
This guide can be useful (step 5)

That's the problem !
Nothing is written at the top of my bootloader, neither LOCKED nor UNLOCKED, just start with PYRAMID...
I can't show you the screen because i have to post 8 messages before.. Normally there is written LOCKED or UNLOCKED but not on my bootloader, that's why i'm asking you if i can do the process, i'll see your link thank's !
After read your link i can't do it from number 6 (STEP 5) to number 9 cause i'm not sure that's my phone is locked.

You never had nothing on top since you had this phone?
I mean no **locked** and no **unlocked**?
By the way if you were able to flash an ics rom (with new firmware and custom recovery), obviously you are unlocked and s-off

Yes i think that i'm unlocked because before used the RUU i was unlocked but as it's not sure, i'm scared to brick my phone you know.
So i hope that i 'll can send you my pictures then you could compare with other phones, but on the french forum, nobody ever seen that before i can write you what i see on my bootloader:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.17.0008
RADIO_10.11.9007.15_M
eMMC-boot
May 13 2011, 21:04:57
That's what i see !
Thank's !

Definitely your phone is unlocked.
You couldn't be S-Off, if it was locked.
Hboot is the right one for GB.
You can go through the S-ON procedure without problems.
Just be carefull and follow instructions.
Please hit thanks button if you wish

What do you mean by GB ?

Ginger Bread (android 2.3)

Okay, but i read that i had to be LOCK before go to S-ON so is it dangerous ?

Sharazed said:
Okay, but i read that i had to be LOCK before go to S-ON so is it dangerous ?
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There is no need to lock again for 2 reasons.
1) Bootloader is officially unlockable by HtcDev. If you lock again it will show **re locked**. Your warranty is void in any case.
Your bootloader has never been locked (according to what you said).

I don't understant because on the french tutorial, it says that i must have my bootloader locked and hboot inferior at 1.18 then if the bootloader is unlocked by revolutionnary (that i had before use the RUU) it's not advisable to back to S-ON.
And you are telling me that i need not to put my bootloader locked to do the process ?
I'm totally lost !
I have to write 8 messages before link my pictures, you'll see my case

Locking bootloader and S-On are 2 different things.
Your situation is uncommon because the sensation is usually shipped **locked** and S-On.
Then, in order to S-Off you need to unlock first.
In your case you are S-Off already without unlocking by HtcDev, so it means that it was shipped unlocked (strange but this is what you say), hence no need to relock in my opinion.

No he wasn't usually shipped UNLOCKED (S-OFF..), but i have unlocked it because my phone is knowing reboot lonely, so i decided to flash Recovery and ICS rom, but with the ROM the bug had persisted.
And now I used the RUU to erase the ICS rom and put my phone in S-ON, but after using the RUU and follow all steps, i see that nothing is written at the top of my bootloader, neither ***LOCKED*** nor ***UNLOCKED*** as before..
So i'm asking you if i can finally put my phone in S-ON without the word LOCKED at the top of my bootloader ?!
Thank's !

Little up !

Nobody know ?

[Q] CID

Hi ,
Wanting to get rid of 3 uk junk and flash to normal UK RUU
Do we need super CID?
My bootloader is unlocked , can't download the RUU from from the Dev section as all the slots are gone , or when it seems to work it errors out .
Has anyone got the latest UK RUU file they can share with me and can someone confirm if I need Super CID to run RUU to unbrand
Thanks in Advance

Just flash Modaco or the Virtuous roms through recovery, these are unbranded and really good.
You will need to flash a Recovery image first though.

Hi and thanks
Yes , I understand this but I want to just unbrand through RUU then re-lock my bootloader.
Do we need Super CID ?

Ok can someone remind me if I need S-Off to change the CID , playing around with ADB at the moment

If Im honest mate, no idea what you mean by CID...
But if you want a new rom, all that needs to be done is unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash rom.
Thats all anyone has done in the dev threads, and worked fine for me (coming from a retail, unbranded unit).
You can 'lock' the bootloader again, BUT it never goes back to its true original state. This is as HTC designed their unlocking/locking process to be (and is stated in their terms when you go to their site to unlock).
Edit: OK, just read up on it. Possibly then! Depends how annoying 3 are I suppose... Probably best to ask one of the devs
Edit 2: CHeck the following, may be of help (though its for the One X)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594262
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/
Edit 3: If you're applying a flashable zip, does the CID limitiation on RUUs even come into play?

Hi thanks ,
Yea what I want to achieve is this .
My CID is HG3____001 this will need to be changed to a CID that is HTC UK specific usually HTC_____001
To find out your CID in ADB
Fastboot Getvar CID
To get to a retail version from a branded version , what usually needed to happen was this .
Unlock bootloader , change CID to 11111111 via ADB
Run the specific UK RUU.exe
Change your CID to the HTC_____001 which is the usual default for UK unbranded devices .
re-lock your bootloader and then you should receive OTA updates from HTC instead of your network supplier which can take months
I can't remember if S-off was needed to do this. I have just checked revolution site and One s is not listed , will play around tonight though and see
Thanks for the help so far

Hi, I know what CID is - coming from the Sensation.
I dont think its possible to change CID without S-OFF, you cant use advanced ADB functions with S-ON
Until revolutionary or someone else makes tool for S-OFF, we will just have to stick with HTCDev, Its not the best, but it allows to flash recovery and ROMs so its better than nothing.
Im pretty sure there will be some progress in the next few weeks, Once the phone is available worldwide

Ahh ok , thanks , yea this phone is set S- on , so S-off will be needed sooner or later

yeah, as development develops and more rights are needed from the phone, S-0FF will eventually be a MUST.
I wish it was available already, I hate the fact that HTC know i have tampered with my HBOOT and voided my warranty.
Luckily enough, if i have a problem, my provider fixes / repairs the phone, Not HTC, So i might just get off lightly

I think HTC will know if you have tampered with the phone period if they wish to look that far into it .
Unless you fry your processor where you have set it too high etc then shouldn't be a problem. If you have a hardware problem such as your screen fails , battery etc then should be fine .
As you say though , if you brought it through a retail unit then that is where it is returned so in some respects is a bit easier as they will use a third party repairer acting for HTC .

well with the sensation it was possible to return everything back to stock, Including the bootloader and S-ON..
There was no way it could be diagnosed as being tampered with, If you did it properly..
But with HTCDev. youve already submitted a code (which i assume contains serial number) so all they have to do is check whether that device matches anything on their database of tampered devices. Thats why i dislike it so much..
But i need root for most of my apps so there was no workaround for me...

I see on the One X forum S-off is under way . Can't wait to get this baby to true stock.
Just did another Google search for S-Off on the S but nothing as yet .

Wont update to sense 5 :eek:

Hey guys I was wondering if any one can help me here I have an issue and its bothering me like hell
So I bought my new AT&T one x and there was an update available (sense 5 update) and when I downloaded I pressed on update now and the phone turned off and just in the middle of the update , the installation shows an error triangle with exclamation mark and the phone restarted and nothing happened !
I need help updating it and without rooting my phone ...
thanks

I don't think there's an official sense 5 update from AT&T yet? What is your current firmware?

There is no Sense 5 update for at&t yet. Was the phone used? Does it respond at all when you try to power it on now?
Sent from my Evita

madshark2009 said:
Hey guys I was wondering if any one can help me here I have an issue and its bothering me like hell
So I bought my new AT&T one x and there was an update available (sense 5 update) and when I downloaded I pressed on update now and the phone turned off and just in the middle of the update , the installation shows an error triangle with exclamation mark and the phone restarted and nothing happened !
I need help updating it and without rooting my phone ...
thanks
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So it sounds like you tried updating, it failed, and then you just rebooted back into android. I had this problem a while back. You can update via RUU, though it'll wipe your phone. Are you rooted? Also, there's no official Sense 5 for AT&T One X.

No my phone is not and was not rooted .. i bought newly yesterday
To be honest i dont know if its at&t but it is the one xl , the dual core one , unlocked (unlocked for any gsm network)
I really need help..
And if there is no official sense 5 then why do i get an update available when i scan ?? And it says sense 5 in the update info..

You don't know what carrier you're on? There is an update for sense 5 but not for AT&T. Anyways just fyi, but sorry don't know how to fix your issue.

How can you not know which carrier you're with? Before you think about taking an OTA we need to see your bootloader details first. To get to the bootloader turn off your phone, once it's completely off hold the volume down button and then the power button (so you're holding them together), after a few seconds let go of power but keep holding volume down until it reaches the white screen with text. This is your bootloader, please post the first five lines.
Sent from my Evita

Oh , haha , sorry for the mistake.. i thought the dual core one x is nessesarly at&t...
My phone is unlocked but still did not get a sim card yet .. although it will be from pelephone, im from Israel .
Ps: my phone is from hong kong china , i bought it on ebay
And I do not want to root if there is an update , since there is i just need help installing it..
Do I need a working , carrier to install updates?

Can you post pictures of the front and back? There are make fake HTC one x's that come from china
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL

area51avenger said:
Can you post pictures of the front and back? There are make fake HTC one x's that come from china
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL
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I already did check every single detail the moment I got my phone !
I even called my friend to come over to compare his ONE x with mine and no difference at all ! maybe the only difference is that my phone is faster XD , yet I am assuming it wont update because I have no sim card yet (no carrier)...
any more ideas ?

madshark2009 said:
any more ideas ?
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If you want help, you need to do a better job of reading replies and answering the questions that were already asked of you. We need more info before we can help. As timmaaa asked on a previous reply, we need hboot details.

timmaaa said:
How can you not know which carrier you're with? Before you think about taking an OTA we need to see your bootloader details first. To get to the bootloader turn off your phone, once it's completely off hold the volume down button and then the power button (so you're holding them together), after a few seconds let go of power but keep holding volume down until it reaches the white screen with text. This is your bootloader, please post the first five lines.
Sent from my Evita
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So I did what you told me :
*** LOCKED ***
EVITA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-11111111 (8 1'S i GUESS)
HBOOT-1.14.0002
RADIO-0.19as.32.09.11_2
OpenDSP-v29.1.0.45.0622
eMMC-boot
Jun 11 2012,14:36:28
So I got my sim card and I checked for updates and installed it , and did the same problem , got stuck with triangle and exclamation mark in it (in red color) and restarted after a minute or some thing and nothing changed ...

It isn't working because your CID was changed to SuperCID (11111111) by the previous owner of the phone. You need to change it back to the original CID fit the update to work. Is it definitely the at&t model? If so it should have the at&t logo at the top of the screen instead of the HTC logo.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
It isn't working because your CID was changed to SuperCID (11111111) by the previous owner of the phone. You need to change it back to the original CID fit the update to work. Is it definitely the at&t model? If so it should have the at&t logo at the top of the screen instead of the HTC logo.
Sent from my Evita
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Well... I bought the htc one xl from ebay , the dual core... It is unlocked and now my carrier is celcum since i put the celcum sim in my one xl... I am from Israel .. though the device i bought was brand new according to the seller... On top there is htc logo not at&t since its unlocked..

Sorry man, but your phone is pre-owned. If you really want the official update you need to change the CID to the original CID, the problem is you don't know what the original CID is. I'd contact the seller and firstly complain, and ask for a partial refund.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
Sorry man, but your phone is pre-owned. If you really want the official update you need to change the CID to the original CID, the problem is you don't know what the original CID is. I'd contact the seller and firstly complain, and ask for a partial refund.
Sent from my Evita
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Ok I sent my seller a message of complain and he better answer me soon ! yet the device feels brand new ... even if it was pre owned I can accept it since I bought it for cheap money .. I get what I pay for .. any wayz I asked him for an original CID and when he gives it to me will it take me a long term process to change my CID back to the original ??
and thanks a lot for your help I appreciate it !!

The process to change the CID back is pretty easy, it's one fastboot command. Luckily the phone is s-off so you can change the CID as many times as you wish to. You'll need adb/fastboot installed on your pc, as well as HTC drivers.
The other option is to unlock the bootloader at htcdev, install a custom recovery (TWRP), and install a custom Sense 5 ROM (or any ROM for that matter). We have them in our development section and they range from completely stock to seriously tweaked, either way it's the same experience as you'd have by taking the official update.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
The process to change the CID back is pretty easy, it's one fastboot command. Luckily the phone is s-off so you can change the CID as many times as you wish to. You'll need adb/fastboot installed on your pc, as well as HTC drivers.
The other option is to unlock the bootloader at htcdev, install a custom recovery (TWRP), and install a custom Sense 5 ROM (or any ROM for that matter). We have them in our development section and they range from completely stock to seriously tweaked, either way it's the same experience as you'd have by taking the official update.
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Welll... The seller doesnt know the original cid and he still claims that all their phones sre brand new... Is there by any chance i can know my original cid besides asking the seller?

There isn't really any way to tell once the CID has been changed. You should be able to use any CID as long as you use the corresponding RUU to go with it.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
There isn't really any way to tell once the CID has been changed. You should be able to use any CID as long as you use the corresponding RUU to go with it.
Sent from my Evita
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I mean is there certain number of CIDs that I can try out and see which is original or its all random numbers and come with random phones ?
in that case I will try to push my seller to spell it out , otherwise I will have to root my phone ..

Stock Restore Question

So I just traded for a used HTC U11. The bootloader status says Locked, and the software status is "official".
I ran the latest RUU file to restore stock just in case though...
My question is--with running the RUU (straight from the exe) and the fact that the bootloader says locked/official--I shouldn't have any concerns over device modification by the previous owner at this point, should I?

no need to use RUU
the u11 is not s-offed yet
as it shows locked and official there is really no need to do so

inconceeeivable said:
So I just traded for a used HTC U11. The bootloader status says Locked, and the software status is "official".
I ran the latest RUU file to restore stock just in case though...
My question is--with running the RUU (straight from the exe) and the fact that the bootloader says locked/official--I shouldn't have any concerns over device modification by the previous owner at this point, should I?
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if previous owner would have unlocked bootloader then locked, the status would say "relocked", so it's safe to say it probably wasn't modified....not a bad idea to RUU anyways

Thanks for the replies, guys!