Hi everybody, i'm new on this forum 'cause i'm french indeed i spend my time on Frandroid.fr !
First of all i would like to say sorry for my bad english i'll use i'm just trying to do my best in order to you can read this message.
So, i'm here because i have a problem with my HTC sensation, he had the problem that he powered off all the time even when i didn't use it. To escape this problem i flashed an ICS ROM with Recovery etc.. Then the problem hasn't been resolved so i decided to send my phone at the warranty, but before i have to put my sensation in S-ON, so i used the RUU VODAFONE and i changed my CID in VODPA203. I've seen that there were 3 steps before put the phone in S-ON, first i must have an Hboot less than 1.18 that i have, second be in official ROM that i have and the last step is have a CID HTC that i have (VODAP203).
The problem i have is that on the bootloader, i haven't got the ***LOCKED*** at the top of the screen (sorry i can't put my photo links yet...)
In other words, i THINK, but i'm not sure that my bootloader is not LOCKED.
So can i do the process in order to put my phone in S-ON without the ***LOCKED*** ? Is it risky to do it without ?
I hope that you'll understand my message because it's probably bad english, and a bit to long but i think that i had to explain my problem to you understand.
Thank you, Sharazed.
Not clear enough but not for the english.
What your bootloader says? **unlocked** or **locked** (I think unlocked).
If you attempt to lock again by HtcDev it will show **re-locked**.
The bootloader is now officially unlockable by htc so I wouldn't worry about it.
Not clear if you went back to s-on already or not.
This guide can be useful (step 5)
That's the problem !
Nothing is written at the top of my bootloader, neither LOCKED nor UNLOCKED, just start with PYRAMID...
I can't show you the screen because i have to post 8 messages before.. Normally there is written LOCKED or UNLOCKED but not on my bootloader, that's why i'm asking you if i can do the process, i'll see your link thank's !
After read your link i can't do it from number 6 (STEP 5) to number 9 cause i'm not sure that's my phone is locked.
You never had nothing on top since you had this phone?
I mean no **locked** and no **unlocked**?
By the way if you were able to flash an ics rom (with new firmware and custom recovery), obviously you are unlocked and s-off
Yes i think that i'm unlocked because before used the RUU i was unlocked but as it's not sure, i'm scared to brick my phone you know.
So i hope that i 'll can send you my pictures then you could compare with other phones, but on the french forum, nobody ever seen that before i can write you what i see on my bootloader:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.17.0008
RADIO_10.11.9007.15_M
eMMC-boot
May 13 2011, 21:04:57
That's what i see !
Thank's !
Definitely your phone is unlocked.
You couldn't be S-Off, if it was locked.
Hboot is the right one for GB.
You can go through the S-ON procedure without problems.
Just be carefull and follow instructions.
Please hit thanks button if you wish
What do you mean by GB ?
Ginger Bread (android 2.3)
Okay, but i read that i had to be LOCK before go to S-ON so is it dangerous ?
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Okay, but i read that i had to be LOCK before go to S-ON so is it dangerous ?
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There is no need to lock again for 2 reasons.
1) Bootloader is officially unlockable by HtcDev. If you lock again it will show **re locked**. Your warranty is void in any case.
Your bootloader has never been locked (according to what you said).
I don't understant because on the french tutorial, it says that i must have my bootloader locked and hboot inferior at 1.18 then if the bootloader is unlocked by revolutionnary (that i had before use the RUU) it's not advisable to back to S-ON.
And you are telling me that i need not to put my bootloader locked to do the process ?
I'm totally lost !
I have to write 8 messages before link my pictures, you'll see my case
Locking bootloader and S-On are 2 different things.
Your situation is uncommon because the sensation is usually shipped **locked** and S-On.
Then, in order to S-Off you need to unlock first.
In your case you are S-Off already without unlocking by HtcDev, so it means that it was shipped unlocked (strange but this is what you say), hence no need to relock in my opinion.
No he wasn't usually shipped UNLOCKED (S-OFF..), but i have unlocked it because my phone is knowing reboot lonely, so i decided to flash Recovery and ICS rom, but with the ROM the bug had persisted.
And now I used the RUU to erase the ICS rom and put my phone in S-ON, but after using the RUU and follow all steps, i see that nothing is written at the top of my bootloader, neither ***LOCKED*** nor ***UNLOCKED*** as before..
So i'm asking you if i can finally put my phone in S-ON without the word LOCKED at the top of my bootloader ?!
Thank's !
Little up !
Nobody know ?
Related
I'm currently at this moment in time:
*** LOCKED ***
Pyramid PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.23.0000
RADIO-11.19.3504.29_2
OpenADSP-v01.6.0.2226.00.1227
eMMC-boot
Dec 26 2011,12:14:25
CID - 11111111
I want to unlock my bootloader via HTCDev as i like knowing i have access to Fastboot commands if needed, but what i'm wondering, before i do this, is will it send me back to Stock CID and S-Off, or will everything be left as it is whilst just unlocking my bootloader?
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but i've had a look about and not come accross my answer.
Thanks!
It is unlocked, its just saiz locked. A common problem
Brownie2k said:
I'm currently at this moment in time:
*** LOCKED ***
Pyramid PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.23.0000
RADIO-11.19.3504.29_2
OpenADSP-v01.6.0.2226.00.1227
eMMC-boot
Dec 26 2011,12:14:25
CID - 11111111
I want to unlock my bootloader via HTCDev as i like knowing i have access to Fastboot commands if needed, but what i'm wondering, before i do this, is will it send me back to Stock CID and S-Off, or will everything be left as it is whilst just unlocking my bootloader?
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but i've had a look about and not come accross my answer.
Thanks!
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Hi,
It will unlock everything for you.
But HTC will then have a record of what you have done,and this will give you warranty problems,should they ever arise.
Thanks for the help guys!
Much appriciated. I've gone as far as getting my unlock code sent to e-mail, but i've not actually flashed it yet as i was rather unsure.
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It is unlocked, its just saiz locked. A common problem
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Hi,
It's locked to advanced fastboot,like installing radio.
Basic fastboot like get cid is still available.
Malybru, thats pretty much why i'd want it unlocked - I'm so used to flashing radio etc via Fastboot. I know you can do it via HBoot with PG58IMG, but i've been doing it via Fastboot with my Streak, Desire HD etc and just find it easier doing it like that.
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Malybru, thats pretty much why i'd want it unlocked - I'm so used to flashing radio etc via Fastboot. I know you can do it via HBoot with PG58IMG, but i've been doing it via Fastboot with my Streak, Desire HD etc and just find it easier doing it like that.
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Hi,
I know what you are saying.
But you will invalidate your warranty by doing anything from HTCDEV...
EDIT:
You can always return to 1.17 HERE
this what throws me off alot, unlocking the Bootloader gives us fastboot commands, which i dont want to lose, once you have done the Revolutionary you get s-off which takes security off to flash radio etc, once we update the hboot, it says locked but its truly not, and it still says s-off so once we do the unlock from htcdev we still have s-off so fastbooting flash radio should still work since that security is still off
i searched and asked there is no real answer as everyone jus shrugs and says use the PD58IMG to do things then the thread dies or OP says ok that will be fine
and it will not fully void your warranty if its any type hardware issue, it only voids software side, as say you did a bad flash and bricked it, if they recovery it and see you are unlocked then yes its voided, but if the digitizer not responsive, power button stuck, backlight died, whatever that is still coverd
I know i could return to 1.17, but would that mess up the fact i'm running RCMix ICE 4.0.3? I'm no desperate for the Fastboot commands, but just knowing i have access to them is a weight off my mind.
I've never needed to use my HTC warranty, but loosing access to it is putting me off a little. I think i'll lay off unlocking for a while.
malybru said:
Hi,
It's locked to advanced fastboot,like installing radio.
Basic fastboot like get cid is still available.
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Oh dear, locked does not mean only basic fastboot. The hboot version determines the basic fastboot. 1.17 has advanced fastboot but none others do
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
If you've gone as far as getting the unlock code emailed across then go for it.
I unlocked mine with HTCDev first, now i have hboot 1.23 unlocked and s-off..
It's not going to clear my S-Off or Super CID i take it then?
Thats the only main reason i've been holdinf off doing it, the warranty is a downside, but it's not a huge thing. I bought the phone second hand, so i've no idea who it was first registered to anyway.
I can't answer that one i'm afraid as I did it the other way around, HTC first, then revolutionary.
TBH i'm not sure what the difference is between having an unlocked bootloader and S-Off, or whether they are one and the same. When I did the HTC unlock it said it had been successful but still said S-Off in HBoot so i used the revolutionary method as a follow up.
In retrospect I think the HTC unlock did work, at least in part, because i've flashed the most recent ruu (complete phone image direct from HTC) and have both 'unlocked' at the top and 's-off' showing in hboot. most if not all users who have not done the HTC unlock end up with a 'locked' 's-off' combination.
this doesn't really help with your dilemma unfortunately but i'm sure somone with a definitive answer will be along...
I just went ahead and did it... when the screen appeared asking if i wanted to unlock, i vol upped to Yes and pressed Power. Nothing happened, tried again, nothing happened. Pressed Power on NO my phone restarted.
Went back into Hboot, now says *** Unlocked ***, Ship S-OFF RL, and Supercid says 11111111, so all went well it seems, Only odd thing is, my rom seemed to factory reset, and the RCMix ICE splash screen has changed to the stock Android Spash Screen. All seems ok though, still rooted, etc?
Sounds promising. It's a bit of a steep learning curve at first for sure and not all of the guides and info are in plain english. Still, all's well that ends well.
All seems fine. Reading on HTCDev.com, it does factory reset your Rom and Settings, so i decided to just reflash RCMix Ice and all is well and good now.
*** UNLOCKED ***
Pyramid PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.23.0000
RADIO-11.19.3504.29_2
OpenADSP-v01.6.0.2226.00.1227
eMMC-boot
Dec 26 2011,12:14:25
Fastboot getvar cid shows cid - 11111111
All is good now. I agree that sometimes the guides are a little confusing, but it's the after affects that bother me just as much as what could go wrong. I'd hate to have unlocked and had everything set back to default
Hi ,
Wanting to get rid of 3 uk junk and flash to normal UK RUU
Do we need super CID?
My bootloader is unlocked , can't download the RUU from from the Dev section as all the slots are gone , or when it seems to work it errors out .
Has anyone got the latest UK RUU file they can share with me and can someone confirm if I need Super CID to run RUU to unbrand
Thanks in Advance
Just flash Modaco or the Virtuous roms through recovery, these are unbranded and really good.
You will need to flash a Recovery image first though.
Hi and thanks
Yes , I understand this but I want to just unbrand through RUU then re-lock my bootloader.
Do we need Super CID ?
Ok can someone remind me if I need S-Off to change the CID , playing around with ADB at the moment
If Im honest mate, no idea what you mean by CID...
But if you want a new rom, all that needs to be done is unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash rom.
Thats all anyone has done in the dev threads, and worked fine for me (coming from a retail, unbranded unit).
You can 'lock' the bootloader again, BUT it never goes back to its true original state. This is as HTC designed their unlocking/locking process to be (and is stated in their terms when you go to their site to unlock).
Edit: OK, just read up on it. Possibly then! Depends how annoying 3 are I suppose... Probably best to ask one of the devs
Edit 2: CHeck the following, may be of help (though its for the One X)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594262
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/
Edit 3: If you're applying a flashable zip, does the CID limitiation on RUUs even come into play?
Hi thanks ,
Yea what I want to achieve is this .
My CID is HG3____001 this will need to be changed to a CID that is HTC UK specific usually HTC_____001
To find out your CID in ADB
Fastboot Getvar CID
To get to a retail version from a branded version , what usually needed to happen was this .
Unlock bootloader , change CID to 11111111 via ADB
Run the specific UK RUU.exe
Change your CID to the HTC_____001 which is the usual default for UK unbranded devices .
re-lock your bootloader and then you should receive OTA updates from HTC instead of your network supplier which can take months
I can't remember if S-off was needed to do this. I have just checked revolution site and One s is not listed , will play around tonight though and see
Thanks for the help so far
Hi, I know what CID is - coming from the Sensation.
I dont think its possible to change CID without S-OFF, you cant use advanced ADB functions with S-ON
Until revolutionary or someone else makes tool for S-OFF, we will just have to stick with HTCDev, Its not the best, but it allows to flash recovery and ROMs so its better than nothing.
Im pretty sure there will be some progress in the next few weeks, Once the phone is available worldwide
Ahh ok , thanks , yea this phone is set S- on , so S-off will be needed sooner or later
yeah, as development develops and more rights are needed from the phone, S-0FF will eventually be a MUST.
I wish it was available already, I hate the fact that HTC know i have tampered with my HBOOT and voided my warranty.
Luckily enough, if i have a problem, my provider fixes / repairs the phone, Not HTC, So i might just get off lightly
I think HTC will know if you have tampered with the phone period if they wish to look that far into it .
Unless you fry your processor where you have set it too high etc then shouldn't be a problem. If you have a hardware problem such as your screen fails , battery etc then should be fine .
As you say though , if you brought it through a retail unit then that is where it is returned so in some respects is a bit easier as they will use a third party repairer acting for HTC .
well with the sensation it was possible to return everything back to stock, Including the bootloader and S-ON..
There was no way it could be diagnosed as being tampered with, If you did it properly..
But with HTCDev. youve already submitted a code (which i assume contains serial number) so all they have to do is check whether that device matches anything on their database of tampered devices. Thats why i dislike it so much..
But i need root for most of my apps so there was no workaround for me...
I see on the One X forum S-off is under way . Can't wait to get this baby to true stock.
Just did another Google search for S-Off on the S but nothing as yet .
Hello everybody, i've a big question for you I got an HTC One S with cid TIM__041, still locked. The installed ROM is the stock customized by my operator TIM, that's crappy without any updates, and i want to put the europe stock rom changing the cid to HTC__001 if it's needed. But i don't want to void my warranty. The device is OK, it has no problems.
How can I resolve this? Sorry for my bad english, but i'm an young italian
If you need bootloader information, here is it:
*** LOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
RADIO-0.16.31501S.17_2
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 20 2012,15:14:18
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no one?
Sevenarth said:
no one?
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That was only 2½ hours later, in which the USA is mostly asleep. Patience young grasshopper ..ehmm.. I mean Italian.
EDIT: I missed the AM/PM. It was 14.5 hrs like frdd correctly corrected in the post below this one. Sorry for that.
I'm not 200% sure but I don't think you can change your CID without unlocking your bootloader. Unlocking your bootloader will not completely void your warranty. It will still cover unrelated defects. Also, you can always re-lock and go back to stock afterwards, but only if you have a RUU for your phone that accepts your new HBOOT (that comes with the EU RUU).
If the 'problem' is that you want to tinker with your device but not take responsibility, then there is no solution.
-Jobo
Try 14.5 hours but yeah jobo is correct you need htcdev unlock to root and change cid
So, if I unlock the bootloader, the warranty for hardware problems will not voided? I need only to get the european stock rom, what's the best way to get it? However, i don't think putting european stock rom will void the warranty :/
Thanks for answering my topic But when I maked the topic, in USA was day. xD
Me too, though I am on T-MOB005 CID. And I don't want to exactly root my phone. So until we get S-OFF, there is no way. Just have to wait and be patient, like me. (I'm still on 1.77 and 2.21 has already been released)
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Me too, though I am on T-MOB005 CID. And I don't want to exactly root my phone. So until we get S-OFF, there is no way. Just have to wait and be patient, like me. (I'm still on 1.77 and 2.21 has already been released)
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me too, i'm at 1.78, and i still didn't get 2.21 update i need it for wifi problems.
So, are there no other way?
You can try to just run the 2.21.401 RUU but probably won't work.
Or you can wait for TIM to release the OTA if you're only after the new radio, your branding will still be there.
You need root to change cid, and you need htcdev unlock to root. No other way yet.
Hm..are there some news about s-off?
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I hope it's ok to post other sites like but there is a nice tutorial here that have links to xda forum!
hwupgrade.i t/forum/showpost.php?p=37896138&postcount=320
Sevenarth said:
me too, i'm at 1.78, and i still didn't get 2.21 update i need it for wifi problems.
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I need it to fix camera focus issues. The camera won't focus on something close-up.
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I need it to fix camera focus issues. The camera won't focus on something close-up.
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Same here!! Can you please help me here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813535
I decided, and now I got 2.21.401.10 :laugh:
I follow this steps: (thanks addsfsds)
1. Unlock, install recovery mod, root --> HOW-TO
2. Changed CID to generic (HTC__001) --> HOW-TO
3. Relocked bootloader (It's important!) --> Command: "fastboot oem lock"
4. Installed 2.21 HTC Europe RUU (includes stock recovery + stock rom) --> DOWNLOAD
5. I'm free!
You guys are saying you don't want to change your CID until S-Off is out because you don't want to unlock bootloader... Even if S-Off is out, you still have to unlock your bootloader to change CID *facepalm*
So I needed the best choice, because I need europe stock rom now.
ShensMobile said:
You guys are saying you don't want to change your CID until S-Off is out because you don't want to unlock bootloader... Even if S-Off is out, you still have to unlock your bootloader to change CID *facepalm*
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Don't facepalm without knowing. We don't want to unlock the bootloader now because once we get S-OFF, we can S-ON back again with no traces of being S-OFF'ed. However, with HTCDev, it says ***RELOCKED*** which is a clear indication that the device has had its bootloader unlocked before. Some of use don't like to void our warranties, which is why we're waiting for S-OFF.
I am nieuw and acording to the video i am a noob.
So i try to be brief and clear.
The problem is some of my letters on my touchscreen are not working.
when i turn the phone (landscape) other letters won't work. ( a other firmware will help???)
I hate vodafone so i want that off my phone and i want to do more with it than
the firmware accepts.
I bought the phone second hand so i can experiment with it and do'nt messup my one HTC Wildfire s
I have read a lot of forum also here on xda.
But i don't understand it.
The one says you first have to downgrade wit a branded rom
The other says first unbrand and then upgrade/downgrade/change
Other say's other things.
What must i do and where can i find the right roms and software to do it.
I have a Desire s (vodafone logo)
*** LOCKED ****
saga pvt ship s-on rl
hboot 2.00.0002
radio-3822.10.50.24_m
eMMC-boot
This is al the info i think is importent
I am dutch but english is fine fore me and if i don't get it thes alway's google to translate or find out what you mean.
Long live to andoid!!
if you are considering flash another rom and get rid of vodafone firmware. this thread might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
First of all, get your phone checked out - the keyboard issue sounds like your touchscreen is failing (hardware problem). You'll want to get that fixed BEFORE you unlock or flash custom roms as that will void your warranty.
After that, you can flash a custom ROM, or use the ICS RUU (NOT recommended!) to debrand your phone. Note that this will involve either unlocking your bootloader (which voids your warranty) or going S-OFF (which is a difficult procedure).
Hello guys
Sorry for my bad english but il try to be precise as i can. I bought my htc on ebay it says new and it feels new. But after i read may treads here it seems its not new . I have problems with automatic software update it freezes on 20% then it reboots after few minutes, if i regard this problem the phone works fine. But im fustrated i want new software . Now i got in boot loader in this is what it says:
++++locked+++++ - in one tread i read this should be relocked
evita pvt ship s-off rl - i belive this is s-off i need your confirmation
cid - 11111111 - i dont understand fully this yet but its a good thing i belive
h-boot 1.09.0000 - dont understand what this means
RADIO - 0.16a.32.09.17_2 - i belive this is software for my phones antena
open dsp - v25-1-0-32-0405 - dont know if this is imortant
emmc -boot
Apr 2 2012, 21:08:24 - is this last known software update i manufacturing date
Know i need you help to explain this thing to me and if its safe and what do i have to do to install new software. Which software whould you
recommend and maybe can i install viper xl
Thanks
The phone definitely isn't new. You have SuperCID (11111111) and s-off which means it has been unlocked at some point. But the good news is you can easily unlock the bootloader at htcdev, then install a custom recovery, and then install Viper if you wish.
Sent from my Evita
Thanks for the reply, now i never unlocked bootloader can you give me some advice on the safest way to do that and where can i see when bootloader is unlocked, sorry for dumb questions but if i dont ask ill never learn
Can somebody send me some links where can i find instructions on how to unlock bootloader, make recovery image and then how to install viper xl rom
Is your phone an at&t model? If it is it'll have the at&t logo above the screen, otherwise it'll just have the HTC logo.
Sent from my Evita
Itd at&t phone
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
You already have SuperCID so you can go to htcdev and unlock your bootloader.
Sent from my Evita
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You already have SuperCID so you can go to htcdev and unlock your bootloader.
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The phone is s-off, does the OP even need to unlock the bootloader to install TWRP, flash ROM, etc.?
You typically won't receive OTAs for AT&T phones outside of North America. So that is probably why the update is failing.