Hello everyone, im interested on upcoming huawei mate 30 pro, but if cant use official Android, what will be happen, how we can use it without google Play
puchaa said:
Hello everyone, im interested on upcoming huawei mate 30 pro, but if cant use official Android, what will be happen, how we can use it without google Play
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They might find a way like making a new app store or using their appgallery.
puchaa said:
Hello everyone, im interested on upcoming huawei mate 30 pro, but if cant use official Android, what will be happen, how we can use it without google Play
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or can we install the google play services and store by ourselves?
qianfor19 said:
Or can we install the google play services and store by ourselves?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This exactly does not take much effort for most people here on XDA to install g services and store. I am getting myself a M30 Pro and will use it that way, idk about politic shhite.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn VOG-L29 met Tapatalk
Mafiatounes said:
This exactly does not take much effort for most people here on XDA to install g services and store. I am getting myself a M30 Pro and will use it that way, idk about politic shhite.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn VOG-L29 met Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dont you think that google might block them from connecting to their servers etc so it might not be that possible after all
That's what I read, this phone will now able to connect to google calendar or google drive which rely on google service.
Of course, Huawei has Chinese apps alternative as what China people using in China.
mate 30 pro will have android 10 though
---------- Post added at 08:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 AM ----------
Mafiatounes said:
This exactly does not take much effort for most people here on XDA to install g services and store. I am getting myself a M30 Pro and will use it that way, idk about politic shhite.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn VOG-L29 met Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was planing to do the same since its quite easy to install both gplay services and gplay store , but the problem is the phone is not going to get any future android updates. whats going to happen when android 11 comes out.
Andoid is open source so i guess we will get updates, i am going to wait on Huawei to clarify a bit first
Android Open Source Project, AOSP is free to use for anybody. Huawei pay Google about 5$ per device and preinstall Google Apps and Services.
You will get a Huawei Mate 30 with Android 10, EMUI but without Google Play, Gmail, Youtube, etc.
It is Android, so you can install it and use it, like any other Android device. On Xiaomi Mi Store (chinese version) there is a Google Installer.
I understand Google Mobile Services is easy but how about Google Pay and over-riding thaty SafetyNet thing?
I remember there was this work around using MAGISK?? But do u have to root in order for it to work?
confirm can install
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=924951717867805
Mate 30 fingerprint is safety net compliant
Its fairly easy to install gapps on it
Most of New released models where already pre certified, as this happened before the ban..
Wanda Mobile, a reputable UK retailer, is now selling this phone "with Google Play Store installed".
Linuxkek said:
Android Open Source Project, AOSP is free to use for anybody. Huawei pay Google about 5$ per device and preinstall Google Apps and Services.
You will get a Huawei Mate 30 with Android 10, EMUI but without Google Play, Gmail, Youtube, etc.
It is Android, so you can install it and use it, like any other Android device. On Xiaomi Mi Store (chinese version) there is a Google Installer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will work like any other Android phone except it does not have the licensed Google Mobile Service (GMS) built-in; there is an app that one can download to install the google framework that will install Google assistance which will allow Google Play Store to be installed in the phone. Because the phone does not have GMS so many apps in Google Play Store will not work. One will have to get from alternative source like APKmirror
Ok Guys. I have a M30 and it has not been easy to install GMS on it. As you know LZPlay app is dead. And installing framework, services and play Store is not working. I get force close after the install.
Any thoughts on this? (bootloader locked and unrooted)
superdragonpt said:
Mate 30 fingerprint is safety net compliant
Its fairly easy to install gapps on it
Most of New released models where already pre certified, as this happened before the ban..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, Boas Super Dragão!
Unfortunately it´s not been easy to install gapps since the LZPLay backdoor wich was using undocumentede APIS has been closed. I have a Mate 30 Pro with Bootloader unlocked and no root. I tried a bunch of suspicious GMS installers, and tried to intsall the services and framework manually with all the available permissions and the result is always the same. App force closes. Alguma ideia? Abraço
bonell said:
Ok Guys. I have a M30 and it has not been easy to install GMS on it. As you know LZPlay app is dead. And installing framework, services and play Store is not working. I get force close after the install.
Any thoughts on this? (bootloader locked and unrooted)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just presumed you are living in China. Shouldn't be hard, they can live without Google, FB, IG, whatsapp. So can you.
torickray said:
Just presumed you are living in China. Shouldn't be hard, they can live without Google, FB, IG, whatsapp. So can you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congratulations on your opinion on what I can and cannot live without. But your reply is absolutely useless. Thanks for the spam
bonell said:
Ok Guys. I have a M30 and it has not been easy to install GMS on it. As you know LZPlay app is dead. And installing framework, services and play Store is not working. I get force close after the install.
Any thoughts on this? (bootloader locked and unrooted)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can use these alternatives (spanish) https://instatecno.com/no-uso-servicios-de-google-mi-experiencia/
juanro49 said:
You can use these alternatives (spanish) https://instatecno.com/no-uso-servicios-de-google-mi-experiencia/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gracias Juan. For now I am trying to actually install as much as possible of original Google Apps. But that article is very interesting and has some great alternatives.
Related
About all setup with my Mate 9 (Chinese version). I got updated OTA to 135 and got GMS and Play all going.
However, I can't get Google contacts on it. App won't install from store, says incompatible ... anyone got a workaround? Last thing I need to get to using this otherwise awesome phone as my daily.
Answered. Wasn't sure I trusted all mirror but trust Duraaraa.
duraaraa said:
You need to sync contacts?
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...oogle-contacts-sync-7-1-android-apk-download/
try that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...
Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 using XDA Labs
hey,I'm from China and I think there is an app called google installer which is designed for your problem
Since google is not available in China ，google services are simply deleted.
Usually，we use that google installer to plant google services in our system（VPN needed of course lolol），but they work only on 5.0 and 6.0 the last time I saw them
you can still give it a try though，this app can be found on cool market（very powerful app market，we use it as a replacement for google store）
just search cool market on google and you will get it
Hope this can help you
Yep, GMS Core puts the base services on, then you can add Play store and the rest. Got Contacts from APK Mirror.
Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 using XDA Labs
I know for free apps you can just get the apk off Apkmirror or something but what about paid apps? Is it possible to buy an app off Google Play using a web browser and install it without the actual Google Play App?
I know there is a convoluted way to install Google Play through a combination of restore and lzplay apps but apparently that involves handing over administrative control to some unknown third party so I'm not sure if I should try that yet.
Phone is Mate 30 Pro 5g.
I don't think so
huawei132 said:
I know for free apps you can just get the apk off Apkmirror or something but what about paid apps? Is it possible to buy an app off Google Play using a web browser and install it without the actual Google Play App?
I know there is a convoluted way to install Google Play through a combination of restore and lzplay apps but apparently that involves handing over administrative control to some unknown third party so I'm not sure if I should try that yet.
Phone is Mate 30 Pro 5g.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got my 30 pro yesterday and did the installation. After you have installed the Gapps, you can just delete the App so it can't harm anybody. Everything except Google Pay works fine.
adrian_rams said:
I got my 30 pro yesterday and did the installation. After you have installed the Gapps, you can just delete the App so it can't harm anybody. Everything except Google Pay works fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how did you install the gapps?
etgo11 said:
how did you install the gapps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did it according to the guide on Huaweiblog (a german website) i´ts there and i guess you can easily understand it, as it´s step by step
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-mate-30-pro-google-dienste-installieren/
there is also a video guide on the site
Got it here in UAE. So far no Google method is working from the Mate 30 pro thread.
varun.gid said:
Got it here in UAE. So far no Google method is working from the Mate 30 pro thread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you use phone clone followed by chat partner all with device ID?
How can I add Google pack into this device? I used mate 30 promethod which was working perfectly with that device but in this device it won't work. It keep showing me message "this device isn’t Play Protect certified"
Darkisde said:
Did you use phone clone followed by chat partner all with device ID?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello, I also Have a Huawei Mate XS and yes, I tried to do the procedure with Chat partner APP and device ID registration, but it doesn't work. You still can't login to the play store and you receive constant google play service notifications. Unusable. I've also tried to use the procedure described in the answers to the video (using Chat partner after cloning my old Huawei P30pro) but no luck.
I resolved to use the phone without google services, using APK Pure and Aptoide for missing apps.
Still there are apps that I normally use that just don't work. So far:
- Tesla;
- Couple of games I play;
- Revolut;
- Netflix;
- Gmail;
- google maps works but you can't login to google.
All in all I'm still pretty satisfied with the phone and I'm waiting for a definitive workaround for google play store.
Google package
If you have solutions plz post it
Have you tried VMOS apk? As a limited alternative there is also an app called G-Whizz plus and Gapps browser as a temporary solution.
Yes otherwise you need third party apps stores like spk mirror, f Droid, Aurora store or app suche.vone can use internet access to GMS.
VMOS don't dismiss without tryjng
https://www.vmos.com/blog/blog-list/use_google_on_huawei.htm
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/10/18/solve-google-services-issue-on-huawei-mate-30-pro-with-vmos/
Darkisde said:
Have you tried VMOS apk?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many current Huawei phones with Kirin chipset are not fully compatible with WMOS and vice versa.
I'm trying to get used to using the device Sans Google. Trying to explore alternatives and see how to reduce Google life haha.
Jx9997 said:
How can I add Google pack into this device? I used mate 30 promethod which was working perfectly with that device but in this device it won't work. It keep showing me message "this device isn’t Play Protect certified"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there is a method that works posted on the Rom, kernel section go check it out, i can't post links here as im new i lost my old ID.
Does your screen also sound like this pressing on the middle of the unfolded screen?
I received my Huawei mate xs yesterday. Only VMOS works.
Hi friend
Does Wear os work on mate xs, have a fossil watch
Guys if install GMS, means can watch Netflix?
indrafendy said:
Guys if install GMS, means can watch Netflix?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only one app is working, if you update it might not work
I actually have a P30 Pro, if I buy a P40 Pro and I clone all my settings to the new P40 pro, will I have the Google services?
No, You want! I did it p30 pro to P40 pro - everything was moved BUT ring tones (custome) google chrome and wallpaper
I'm sorry, but I'm not getting if it's possible or not.
Did you were able to have Google play store in the p40? Gmail? Youtube? Maps?
Sergio_bodyweb said:
I'm sorry, but I'm not getting if it's possible or not.
Did you were able to have Google play store in the p40? Gmail? Youtube? Maps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NO, I have NO Google services and Google play store
Thank you.
Huawei support told me the same, you can have couple apps, but not the whole package.
I'm afraid I will not buy the amazing p40 pro, I'm sad.
May be a Xiaomi Mi 10 pro?
Sergio_bodyweb said:
Thank you.
Huawei support told me the same, you can have couple apps, but not the whole package.
I'm afraid I will not buy the amazing p40 pro, I'm sad.
May be a Xiaomi Mi 10 pro?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just need to follow the guides to install gms and use Gmail/YouTube/Maps etc. (unless i didn't understand your post properly)
animaleyes76 said:
You just need to follow the guides to install gms and use Gmail/YouTube/Maps etc. (unless i didn't understand your post properly)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know it can be done, but then, what happens every time a new EMUI is installed? All over again?
Sergio_bodyweb said:
I know it can be done, but then, what happens every time a new EMUI is installed? All over again?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Someone somewhere said that they upgraded to the latest 114 update and everything still worked.
animaleyes76 said:
Someone somewhere said that they upgraded to the latest 114 update and everything still worked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can confirm this as I updated a few days ago, all still working correctly
animaleyes76 said:
Someone somewhere said that they upgraded to the latest 114 update and everything still worked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
DaveHTC200 said:
Can confirm this as I updated a few days ago, all still working correctly
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Woow, this changes!
Sergio_bodyweb said:
I'm sorry, but I'm not getting if it's possible or not.
Did you were able to have Google play store in the p40? Gmail? Youtube? Maps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My friend did it: installed Google Play Store/Services on P40 Pro. You can not clone from P30 Pro -> P40 Pro to get Google works
After cloning, will Google Pay work? That is, will the phone pass safetynet test?
I have install google gms on my p40 pro, then used phone-clone from my p30 pro. All apps except g-pay works. Maps, contacts, calendar, drive, the lot. Even my banking app and bankid on mobile.
Just not g-pay but I can live without that one ??
When I try to add a card g-pay states that I have root access or that the phone has been otherwise altered ?
NorSamsUser said:
I have install google gms on my p40 pro, then used phone-clone from my p30 pro. All apps except g-pay works. Maps, contacts, calendar, drive, the lot. Even my banking app and bankid on mobile.
Just not g-pay but I can live without that one
When I try to add a card g-pay states that I have root access or that the phone has been otherwise altered
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can i ask which banking apps are working for you? I am getting mine tomorrow and trying to decide if its better installing gsm first, then clone. Or the other way around
It is Norwegian bank apps.
I have tried both approach, gms then phone-clone and vice versa.
My experience is that gms on a "empty" phone works best.
Obviously, the phone fails Android SafetyNet Test. You can search in Play Store and download an app to test yours out.
update
Confirm! Updated to .114 yesterday, all Google stuff work as it did.
personally me google play music doesn't work
So, does the phone pass Android SafetyNet Test now? Can check please?
I don't know about safetynet stuff, but my Gpay is working fine.
Did 2 purchases to date, both worked on first try.
Does the Mi 10 Ultra pass SafetyNet? Aka use Google Pay, McDonalds, Pokémon Go.
And if so, how come the Mi 10 passes but the P40 Pro does not (despite both phones coming without GMS preinstalled)?
I have the phone
Security level is L1
Saftey net is as global phone
Google services is running as any global phone..100% no issue with me even in downloading all my bought apps
The only issue is that Google backup and restore is not working and Google Location History is not working. The rest all work fine, Google Pay, maps, play store, etc. on the stock china miui 12 rom of course.
Oops, had a typo. Meant to ask:
How come the Mi 10 Ultra passes but the P40 Pro does not (despite both phones coming without GMS preinstalled)? Neither phone is officially available outside China, so I doubt Xiaomi took the time to Google Certify the Mi 10 Ultra. Where does certification come from?
P40 Pro does not come with GMS pre-installed thanks to Trump.
Trump has banned Google from exporting software and licenses to Huawei, so huawei is legally not allowed to install GMS in their OS, even if not activated.
The last Huawei phone with GMS pre-installed is the P30 Pro.
P40 Pro is also available outside China in many regions with HMS instead.
On the other hand, MIUI comes with GMS pre-loaded inside all their China ROMs as well and also Google certified.
It's just not activated, and even if you activate it in China, it will not work due to the Great China Firewall blocking all GMS.
But once the phone is out of China, that's a different story, we just need to install Play Store and all GMS get activated auto-magically.
Some features are not working great as the China rom still have some tiny blocks, notably Google Location History and Backup and Restore.
abunhyan said:
I have the phone
Security level is L1
Saftey net is as global phone
Google services is running as any global phone..100% no issue with me even in downloading all my bought apps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So that mean i can install latest Netflix from play store is it?
amiruddin6521 said:
So that mean i can install latest Netflix from play store is it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not seeing Netflix. I see Amazon and Hulu. Just got the phone tonight.
phibersg said:
P40 Pro does not come with GMS pre-installed thanks to Trump.
Trump has banned Google from exporting software and licenses to Huawei, so huawei is legally not allowed to install GMS in their OS, even if not activated.
The last Huawei phone with GMS pre-installed is the P30 Pro.
P40 Pro is also available outside China in many regions with HMS instead.
On the other hand, MIUI comes with GMS pre-loaded inside all their China ROMs as well and also Google certified.
It's just not activated, and even if you activate it in China, it will not work due to the Great China Firewall blocking all GMS.
But once the phone is out of China, that's a different story, we just need to install Play Store and all GMS get activated auto-magically.
Some features are not working great as the China rom still have some tiny blocks, notably Google Location History and Backup and Restore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If a license from Google to Huawei is all that's required. Why don't they just work around it? Can't Google just release the blob of GMS (I understand releasing the source is probably not a good idea) as freeware that doesn't require a license?
Also, what does Xiaomi use in China if not GMS or HMS?
So have you managed to install Netflix successfully and make payments with Google pay?
Thanks!
Manos_the_Greek said:
So have you managed to install Netflix successfully and make payments with Google pay?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes i used Google pay on it today. Works fine. Netflix doesn't come on play store, but i sideload it via apk mirror and it works fine.
varun.gid said:
Yes i used Google pay on it today. Works fine. Netflix doesn't come on play store, but i sideload it via apk mirror and it works fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just got the mi 10 ultra today whenever I tried to pay with google pay it prompts me with another screen ask for login?
yimzhu said:
I just got the mi 10 ultra today whenever I tried to pay with google pay it prompts me with another screen ask for login?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It asks for your Google account logins? Can you go through this login page? Does it actually work?
Any screenshot please?
Thanks a lot!
No it is some werid all back login screen. it sort freezes and nothing happens.
varun.gid said:
Yes i used Google pay on it today. Works fine. Netflix doesn't come on play store, but i sideload it via apk mirror and it works fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that, have you got the Chinese rom?
So you simply need to sideload it and it's working fine right?
---------- Post added at 10:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 AM ----------
yimzhu said:
No it is some werid all back login screen. it sort freezes and nothing happens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder why this is happening to you but @varun.gid
Managed to get it working. How about uninstall and install again from apk mirror?
yimzhu said:
No it is some werid all back login screen. it sort freezes and nothing happens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder why this is happening to you but @varun.gid
Managed to get it working. How about uninstall and install again from apk mirror?
Google Pay is installed directly from the Play Store. I have use apk mirror for Netflix and Prime Video as that was not available on play store.
Netflix absolutely works. Someone who said it doesn't either doesn't know about side loading or did something wrong. You just have to download the apk from somewhere other than the play store. Works fine.
AerationCheese said:
Netflix absolutely works. Someone who said it doesn't either doesn't know about side loading or did something wrong. You just have to download the apk from somewhere other than the play store. Works fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What about Google pay? It works without any issues too?
Manos_the_Greek said:
What about Google pay? It works without any issues too?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haven't gotten to try it yet but when I know I'll reply again
yimzhu said:
I just got the mi 10 ultra today whenever I tried to pay with google pay it prompts me with another screen ask for login?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try changing NFC setting default wallet to "Use HCE Wallet"