I'm on the fence between these three phones and have found good prices for each of them. Since they're at a similar price range I'm torn between the 3 as they each have their strengths. Looking for a phone that would last. Help on a decision would be appreciated.
What are the traits you are looking for? I haven't seen the Pure and G4 as low as $250 but spending extra to get the right phone is a better deal than saving $50-100 on a device used all day long. I'm a huge fan of the Flex 2, had the G3 prior, have not owned the Pure or G4. The 810 processor can get VERY HOT at times but also runs faster than what the Pure and G4 run.
I want something like a future proof phone so that I don't really need to upgrade in a year or two. Is the 810 still worth it with the drawbacks compared to the 808? I'll be using the phone for mobile gaming and media consumption.
jettoku said:
I'm on the fence between these three phones and have found good prices for each of them. Since they're at a similar price range I'm torn between the 3 as they each have their strengths. Looking for a phone that would last. Help on a decision would be appreciated.
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If it was 6 months ago I'd be tempted by the pure as Moto were very good with the updates. Now they've been taken over by Lenovo, I don't think they can be trusted. (Look at what they did to the Moto E.)
As the G4 is newer, it will get M sooner and has a better camera. I suspect you can get the Flex 2 much cheaper than the G4, so I'd go for the Flex 2 (H950 3GB version.) It really depends on your priorities and how much you want to spend. If you want everything, why not go for the Nexus 6P?
I guess the Flex is the most bang for my buck. I like the 6P but the sd card is a deal breaker for me. From the prices I found the 3 were a hundred dollars apart.
I am jumping ship with AT&T because they really ****ed me on with the Samsung Galaxy S5, I found out that any phone released beyond the S4 has been pretty locked down in terms of being able to root, unlock, or customize beyond basic themes, which I greatly dislike. I found out when I got home the other day and looked up a root method only to find out that the S5 community on XDA has pretty much accepted that there isn't much that can be done with the phone. While T-Mobile on the other hand has unlockable/rootable phones.
Here is the list to the phones available on their site I was thinking of just getting another S5, which I am fine with. I'd get the S6 if it didn't lack features (Changable batteries, microSD slot), I was wondering if any of the other phones listed are worth looking at though? Opinions, Input, and Information are all greatly appreciated.
Do you have to purchase off the payment plan, or can you buy outright? If you have to use the payment plan, your options kinda suck. The Nexus 6 and LG G3 probably have the most development of the available options, but you can find brand new ones for cheaper if you can purchase outright (plus they only have the 32gb Nexus 6). The S5 is alright, but I'd rather have the G3. Remember that, like AT&T, T-Mobile is a GSM network and unlocked devices will work on their network. This includes phones like the Asus Zenfones, OnePlus, etc. For a couple hundred bucks or so you can get a G3 or OnePlus One 64gb and not get stuck on a payment plan for 2 years (not a contract, but not all that different).
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Do you have to purchase off the payment plan, or can you buy outright? If you have to use the payment plan, your options kinda suck. The Nexus 6 and LG G3 probably have the most development of the available options, but you can find brand new ones for cheaper if you can purchase outright (plus they only have the 32gb Nexus 6). The S5 is alright, but I'd rather have the G3. Remember that, like AT&T, T-Mobile is a GSM network and unlocked devices will work on their network. This includes phones like the Asus Zenfones, OnePlus, etc. For a couple hundred bucks or so you can get a G3 or OnePlus One 64gb and not get stuck on a payment plan for 2 years (not a contract, but not all that different).
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I am picking through their payment plan phones this time around. Next time, I'll get one of the oneplus phones. Doesn't the Nexus 6 have the same issue that the Galaxy S6 have? In the way that it has no expandable storage? And does it have a replacable battery? Those two things are dealbreakers for me. The latter being the more important though. I can live with fixed storage as long as it is sufficient, and the phone is worth it. Can you tell me anything about the LG G3? I've not looked into it at all.
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I am picking through their payment plan phones this time around. Next time, I'll get one of the oneplus phones. Doesn't the Nexus 6 have the same issue that the Galaxy S6 have? In the way that it has no expandable storage? And does it have a replacable battery? Those two things are dealbreakers for me. The latter being the
more important though. I can live with fixed storage as long as it is sufficient, and the phone is worth it.
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Yeah, the Nexus 6 (all Nexuses except the first in fact) doesn't have a microSD card slot. It came in 32 and 64gb versions, and unfortunately T-Mobile only offers the 32gb version (refurb), and they want too much for it, which is why I recommended buying elsewhere outright if it's within your means., because you can get a new/mint 64gb one for less than T-Mobile charges for the refurb'd 32gb. The battery isn't removable, although it's not impossible to tear down and replace like many sealed-battery phones.
Can you tell me anything about the LG G3? I've not looked into it at all.
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Sure. It has the same Snapdragon 801 quad core 2.5GHz processor as the Galaxy S5, but has 3gb RAM whereas the S5 only has 2gb. 5.5" QHD 2560x1440 screen. It has an excellent camera, IR blaster, and most importantly (for you), both a microSD slot and removable battery. I just checked again though, and T-Mobile doesn't list the G3 anymore (I think they did a week ago, but no longer). There's lots of custom development for the G3 though, if you can buy one outright.
The G4 is very much the same as the G3, just improved. It's rootable, but there's practically zero custom development going on (I don't know why). But if you plan on using it for the next couple years, this might be the best choice. The Note 4 would be a good option too. Amazing screen, great camera, and it'll be familiar to you coming from the Galaxy S5. Rootable, and there's custom development, including customized Samsung ROMs (modified stock) and AOSP (stock Android) based. Right now the Note 4 is $150 off.
Hello all
I am going to buy the LG G Flex 2 since it have a great discounted price at the moment
But I am confused between the different variants available, in particular H950, H955 and F510.
All of these three variants support the LTE bands for my carrier. I know that H955 does not have 3 gb of ram so it is out for me.
Now between H950 and F510, are both having 3gb of RAM? what about update to Marshmallow? Is root possible?
I would appreciate your help since I could not come up with these information from internet/XDA search
i would advise u to NOT buy the flex 2.
my flex 2 died at the start of this month didn't even work for a year it was complete stock n never dropped. its stuck in a bootloop n boots normally only when charging so it seems like its a hardware problem. also there are no customs roms for this device n it seems like the support for this device will soon die thanks to the locked bootloader. u r better off buying a s6, s7, oneplus 3T if possible. i bought the s7 edge n it rocks. its better to stay away from lg for the time being. the g4 g5 v10 v20 flex 2 according to various blogs, posts, sites these models are prone to bootloop.
This phone it's only good if you wanna get looks from people. If you want performance, get another phone. When you try to load something like a game of even a video on youtube, it gets hot. No unlocked bootloader. The only root posibility is on android 5.1 (from my opinion, 5.1 UI sucks).
I would advise you to not buy this phone.
The 2GB Ram versions don't have enough Ram. (In my opinion.)
The 3GB H950, is totally screwed by AT&T. :crying:
The phone also has lots of hardware issues with screens and overheating.
If you have money, got for the One Plus 3/T, if you don't have money, something like the Huawei P9 Lite is great. :victory:
Ok, so I've read every review and comparison on both. Basically they are spec'd the same. I was aiming at the S9+ as it seems more refined, camera seems to be a little better even though the V40 specs out better with 5. I have a crap LG G5 now, so thats no help.
I was about to pull the trigger on a Oneplus 7pro, but I decided to wait. 5G is coming, not necessarily soon, or will be very functional soon, but its coming. Then I'll drop some dough when that is figured out.
So I decided to buy a used, but mint condition phone to get me until then. Couldn't find the S9+ for verizon in that condition at the right price but did find the LG V40 in that condition for $319. Ordered it. Checked after the weekend and of course there is a mint S9+ for $349. I can send the other one back and order the Samsung.
Just asking for feedback from any who have used them, which way they may go.
Thanks.
Looking to get one of these for my daughter. She broke her Nokia 7.1 display and asked for something that takes better pictures if we're replacing her phone anyway. I had Gcam running on that Nokia but I think an actual Pixel would do her better, and just run smoother too.
With the current prices for used/refurbed, I think a P3 XL would be great, even if there are no more updates for it.
What do you guys think? Any versions to avoid or issues to look out for? Someone mentioned that battery life is iffy especially on a used model, but she's not a power user (mostly music, some messages and calls and occasional selfies with friends- no social media or browsing).
Good idea or bad idea?
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Looking to get one of these for my daughter. She broke her Nokia 7.1 display and asked for something that takes better pictures if we're replacing her phone anyway. I had Gcam running on that Nokia but I think an actual Pixel would do her better, and just run smoother too.
With the current prices for used/refurbed, I think a P3 XL would be great, even if there are no more updates for it.
What do you guys think? Any versions to avoid or issues to look out for? Someone mentioned that battery life is iffy especially on a used model, but she's not a power user (mostly music, some messages and calls and occasional selfies with friends- no social media or browsing).
Good idea or bad idea?
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I think it's a good idea, with some caveats. Excellent for the mentioned needs, but as said, even if it's described as 'Mint', odds are the battery has been cycled hundreds of times.
This is listed on ebay for 219, brand new, unlocked. I've bought from that seller and they are reputable for sure. At least going that route you won't have to worry about the battery.
Yeah no more official updates from google, but Lineage will continue to make builds for this device for (probably) years to come.
Absolutely worth considering.
Things to look out for - a locked bootloader. Verizon and AT&T phones have locked bootloaders. You can't install LOS with a locked bootloader, so no more updates for those phones. Also, when sellers say the phone is unlocked, they mean the SIM is unlocked, not the bootloader.
I'd go with a new, unused phone if you can still find one. Besides battery on a used phone, there is this problem to consider. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/fix-pixel-3-qusb_bulk_cid-xxxx_sn-xxxxxxxx.4205331/
I just had my Pixel 3 battery replaced at uBreakIfix for $100. The original battery lasted 2 years. I could have nursed it along a few months more, but decided it was time.
Also consider a new Pixel 2, if you can find one. I bought a new Pixel 2 XL a couple of months ago. It was much cheaper than the Pixel 3s were going for.
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Looking to get one of these for my daughter. She broke her Nokia 7.1 display and asked for something that takes better pictures if we're replacing her phone anyway. I had Gcam running on that Nokia but I think an actual Pixel would do her better, and just run smoother too.
With the current prices for used/refurbed, I think a P3 XL would be great, even if there are no more updates for it.
What do you guys think? Any versions to avoid or issues to look out for? Someone mentioned that battery life is iffy especially on a used model, but she's not a power user (mostly music, some messages and calls and occasional selfies with friends- no social media or browsing).
Good idea or bad idea?
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Yikes, the battery bit that hard over 2 years, huh?
I bought a Galaxy S10 used that still has decent battery, and my LG G7 which is around the same generation as the Pixel 3 still can go all day. Is the Pixel battery just more prone to conking out early? She could use my LG but honestly I sold her on the Gcam, dual selfies and unlimited google photo storage (she's been using compressed storage for photos since it was free on all phones, and missed the memo about losing all her storage space earlier this year).
Here's the thing:
If I get it from Swappa, it comes with a 3-month Mint SIM trial prepaid. She's on Google Voice so I tend to swap plans around whenever there's a deal, so that knocks about $45 off the price of the phone since I'd be otherwise paying that $15 a month elsewhere. Still worth getting new over that deal? There are pretty mint ones (9 out of 10 condition) for under $150 there, so total would be ~$100 after service discount.
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Yikes, the battery bit that hard over 2 years, huh?
I bought a Galaxy S10 used that still has decent battery, and my LG G7 which is around the same generation as the Pixel 3 still can go all day. Is the Pixel battery just more prone to conking out early? She could use my LG but honestly I sold her on the Gcam, dual selfies and unlimited google photo storage (she's been using compressed storage for photos since it was free on all phones, and missed the memo about losing all her storage space earlier this year).
Here's the thing:
If I get it from Swappa, it comes with a 3-month Mint SIM trial prepaid. She's on Google Voice so I tend to swap plans around whenever there's a deal, so that knocks about $45 off the price of the phone since I'd be otherwise paying that $15 a month elsewhere. Still worth getting new over that deal? There are pretty mint ones (9 out of 10 condition) for under $150 there, so total would be ~$100 after service discount.
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The battery would still last me all day, but it would discharge very fast once it got under 30%. I figured I'd rather replace it than risk losing the phone at a bad time.
As for price, it all depends on what deals you find. I paid $120 for the new Pixel 2 XL a couple of months ago. I get my service for $10 a month (with 500 Mb of data) from RedPocket. I'm quite satisfied with those numbers.
That's a good deal. Can't find a Pixel 2 right now new. I was paying $10 a month for 1GB of data previously but she's constantly running out from google photos and spotify, so was planning on moving up to $15 for 4GB on Mint anyway. Especially right now, buy 3 months get 3 free. So essentially 7.50 a month for the next 6 months!
However... if I get the free sim from Swappa its probably only 3 months. Either way, a good deal. If I buy new from Ebay (even if I could find it), I'd still have to pay for a Mint sim
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Yikes, the battery bit that hard over 2 years, huh?
I bought a Galaxy S10 used that still has decent battery, and my LG G7 which is around the same generation as the Pixel 3 still can go all day. Is the Pixel battery just more prone to conking out early? She could use my LG but honestly I sold her on the Gcam, dual selfies and unlimited google photo storage (she's been using compressed storage for photos since it was free on all phones, and missed the memo about losing all her storage space earlier this year).
Here's the thing:
If I get it from Swappa, it comes with a 3-month Mint SIM trial prepaid. She's on Google Voice so I tend to swap plans around whenever there's a deal, so that knocks about $45 off the price of the phone since I'd be otherwise paying that $15 a month elsewhere. Still worth getting new over that deal? There are pretty mint ones (9 out of 10 condition) for under $150 there, so total would be ~$100 after service discount.
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I recently bought a 'Mint' Lg G8 on swappa, and it 'looked' pretty close to mint, very light small scratches on back. But when I modified the rom so I could see the 'svc menu', the battery stat indicated it had been fully cycled about 280 times. Research indicates a battery should last from 300 to 500 cycles. And just like dcarvil, this G8, when it gets to about 30%, it' drops fast. Incredibly fast.
Other phones I've bought on swappa that were 'open box', actually were exactly that, virtually new. Now we see sellers describe it as 'open box'... without the box!!
It's all anecdotal, some good, some bad, we take our chances.
cheers, good luck.
The Pixel 3 XL is still a great phone and should last a while. The processor is about the same as the Pixel 5.
I would recommend looking on Swappa as it is stricter than Ebay on quality and even a Fair Swappa phone is quite good and should describe the defects in the listing.
On swappa, the cheapest verizon and sprint 3 XL are under $100, but the Google or Tmobile version (which can be boot-loader unlocked and rooted are up to $150. Also notice that at $200 and above you can even get the Pixel 4 XL. Also, the 3a XL may be a cheap option, but it has slower processors so not as good, but still better than the old Nokia 7.1.
I definitely recommend one where the boot-loader is unlock-able as it opens up many options. To stay completely stock or unlock and use any OS build she would like.
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The Pixel 3 XL is still a great phone and should last a while. The processor is about the same as the Pixel 5.
I would recommend looking on Swappa as it is stricter than Ebay on quality and even a Fair Swappa phone is quite good and should describe the defects in the listing.
On swappa, the cheapest verizon and sprint 3 XL are under $100, but the Google or Tmobile version (which can be boot-loader unlocked and rooted are up to $150. Also notice that at $200 and above you can even get the Pixel 4 XL. Also, the 3a XL may be a cheap option, but it has slower processors so not as good, but still better than the old Nokia 7.1.
I definitely recommend one where the boot-loader is unlock-able as it opens up many options. To stay completely stock or unlock and use any OS build she would like.
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I found a swappa 128 gb in good condition for $120, and it's supposed to be the Google version so bootloader unlockable!
Just ordered it. I've heard mixed things about the latest A12 roms, so I like the idea of keeping it unlockable for customs. Are there are any good aftermarket roms that stay close to stock re: network function (VOLTE)?
I've have bad experience with Lineage based roms in the past because networks like Tmobile where I live rely on VOLTE for decent calling support.
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I found a swappa 128 gb in good condition for $120, and it's supposed to be the Google version so bootloader unlockable!
Just ordered it. I've heard mixed things about the latest A12 roms, so I like the idea of keeping it unlockable for customs. Are there are any good aftermarket roms that stay close to stock re: network function (VOLTE)?
I've have bad experience with Lineage based roms in the past because networks like Tmobile where I live rely on VOLTE for decent calling support.
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bad experience with lineage because u need volte? Volte works perfectly on lineage, sorry but your comment in that regard makes no sense. I had a pix 3 with lineage and volte and vowifi worked perfectly on it.
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Well not on LG or Samsung devices that I've owned. Or Moto.
This is my first pixel, maybe it's different?
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Well not on LG or Samsung devices that I've owned. Or Moto.
This is my first pixel, maybe it's different?
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Well yes it is different. LG and Sammy for sure have proprietary IMS implementations, I'm not sure about Moto. What that means is that if the proprietary implementation can't be ported, then things like volte will only work on stock.
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I found a swappa 128 gb in good condition for $120, and it's supposed to be the Google version so bootloader unlockable!
Just ordered it. I've heard mixed things about the latest A12 roms, so I like the idea of keeping it unlockable for customs. Are there are any good aftermarket roms that stay close to stock re: network function (VOLTE)?
I've have bad experience with Lineage based roms in the past because networks like Tmobile where I live rely on VOLTE for decent calling support.
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VoLTE works fine on my P3 with LOS 18.1.