Hi all,
I have a concept for a single update application that would be driven from the AndroidSPIN release database so all developers could use it for ROM, Themes, Applications and anything releases to devices.
If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes to read this post, I would greatly appreciate it.
http://www.androidspin.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=260&t=226
I'd really love to get a group together to collaborate and either help design this and/or write an application and back end to do it.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
Simon
Sounds like an awesome idea, I'd love to help any way I can, but I dont fit in any of the needed positions for the post. Looking forward to see what develops though
Fantastic idea!
I only ever use XDA so god knows what I'm missing out on elsewhere and to be honest after searching the word android on google and trawling through one crap site after another becomes tiresome so hence the 'XDA only' policy.
Sorry I can't offer any programming skills but you have my support on this project whole heartedly, not that it counts for much I know buh MeH!
Hope you can get this off the ground.
As I mentioned to Simon already, I was thinking about building an update application for my ROM. I love the idea of having an on-phone ROM database, update capability, something that can easily be used by any developer in the community.
Some initial thoughts on functionality:
- Browse ROMs
- Download ROMs to SD Card
- Monitor specific ROMs for updates
- Monitor currently running ROM for updates
I'm willing to lend a hand on the Android side of things, but this will be a large undertaking and we will also need some people to contribute to the UI, server side of things, etc.
I do iPhone UI design for applications now (I don't have an iPhone, but most of my contracts and clients are iPhone based), but let me know and I can whip up anything you guys need UI related.
Send me a PM and I can get the ball rolling on how the functionality can be laid out as well.
Even tho I know I wouldnt be able to help out with this. I know I would love to test this out if you needed it.
Its a great idea!!!
I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
michinohatoresu said:
I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
akirah said:
Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Well, of course.
If anything else needs doing, however, I volunteer what spare time I have.
akirah said:
Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Could be easily done, would require quite a lot of laborious work ripping out all the stuff you wouldn't need though.
I would take a look at this but unfortunately I have another Android project on at the moment which is taking all my development spare time.
@SimonNWalker What sort of backend having you got going? REST? SOAP?
Ups wrong theread
not that it matters (since i kept the source 100% open)....
you have my blessing to tear the cmupdater to shreds if it will give us a unified solution to all our ROM cravings
firefart has done a good job of keeping the code pretty clean so there shouldnt be too many issues with grabbing it
and the new code for the screenshots for themes could probably be used to the advantage of this project with ease
I'm not really interested in a rom updater, but a market replacement with an "upgrade all" feature (à la apt-get / yum) drawing from multiple repositories would be most exciting.
The Cyanogen updater could be used, it just needs some modifications. Stuff like sub-sections and update all
Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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The only other method I would consider, besides JSON, is an advanced and well thought out web-based form that the developer is forced to complete upon uploading a ROM. This would place more burden on the server, but should be relatively easy to attach the provided ROM information to the rom database.
Think: Check boxes for firmware compatibilities, check boxes for device compatibilities, version number, change log, etc.
Maybe something a little like this?
Wow this would be/ is gonna be awsome!
I would suggest also that you can backup your sd card settings (and maybe also sms...) to an ftp server (or some other server you can install on your pc) from this app...
like (incremential) backup>partition>wipe>install update>boot>getbackupback
problem is to get the server adress back after wipe. maybe stored in web database and encrypted with phone imei number? or uploaded as google
whatever...
or just not wiping that single adress
just saying ^^
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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JSON is just a file format. The CM Updater works via a static JSON file that gets updated manually. The way I'd design this (which is what I asked a couple of posts back) is a dynamic web service (probably REST based) which delivered JSON dynamically. Wouldn't be too difficult at all.
As SimonWalker said he's using PHP + MySQL I'm guessing that's already being done.
@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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I know it is open and I don't need to give my blessing for people to use the source. I did so because a lot of people don't feel comfortable using other peoples code without permission, regardless of whether or not its 100% open source.
And as for the 'credit crap'... I don't see you asking for your name to be removed from the 'about' section of the app
I am not asking for any credit
Anyway, lets not get off topic...
Guys, before this becomes Android Open Alliance, the sequel (you all remember how that went), I think we better set up a way to work together first and then toss in the speculative stuff later.
How about starting simple; set up a wave?
hey guys just wondering if anyone would be able to creatte this app.
The Iphone has such an app only cause the iphone is mainstream in aust but yeah. Was just yeah wondering if someone could port it over to android either 2.2 or 2.1 idc. but would be happy to pay as yeah i want to be the "different bloke"
as the pilot as i have the nexus one and everyone else (11) others own a iphone so yeah thanks
care to explain wtf it is/does?
and are you from australia?
well its a air services site that provides weather for pilots.
it is created by the buero of meteorology and then compiled and put out over different forms, i.e an app or a computer program or radio and such
yes i am australian and most that i know havent a clue how to make such a thing
i would give you links but it says i cant. i must be new lol.
I have considered developing simply to create this app.
Pweese I know at least 50people that would be willing to pay. Would bee so awesome
I'm the developer of the iPhone version of NAIPS - I had a quick look at android however it looks like way too much work for personally minimal gain for me (I don't even have an android phone). If I did do it one day - it would probably have minimal features as it would require a 100% rewrite. Plus I'm currently focusing on getting ERSA etc onto iPad/iPhone (after work & family).
Maybe a bunch of people could pay some firm in China/India to write a version? Or just a simple version (with Airservices' permission) that does location briefings etc?
I'm the developer of the iPhone version of NAIPS - I had a quick look at android however it looks like way too much work for personally minimal gain for me (I don't even have an android phone). If I did do it one day - it would probably have minimal features as it would require a 100% rewrite. Plus I'm currently focusing on getting ERSA etc onto iPad/iPhone (after work & family).
Maybe a bunch of people could pay some firm in China/India to write a version? Or just a simple version (with Airservices' permission) that does location briefings etc?
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That's cool. Can you provide some details as to the source of the data? There are plenty of open source weather apps, one could possibly bee modified to get data from that source
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I'm the developer of the iPhone version of NAIPS - I had a quick look at android however it looks like way too much work for personally minimal gain for me (I don't even have an android phone). If I did do it one day - it would probably have minimal features as it would require a 100% rewrite. Plus I'm currently focusing on getting ERSA etc onto iPad/iPhone (after work & family).
Maybe a bunch of people could pay some firm in China/India to write a version? Or just a simple version (with Airservices' permission) that does location briefings etc?
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Ah, i have been reading your posts on PPruNe forums, if i do get my act together and start writing a similar app for android, do you mind if i contact you then for bits of information (ie what ASA said regarding scraping their material etc.)?
Also, just out of personal interest, what and where do you fly?
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you had me laughing my ASSS off tonight, hahaha!
too funny, I'm sorry for going off topic.
That's cool. Can you provide some details as to the source of the data?
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You basically have to emulate the website by sending off HTML get/post requests as per their html code. There are no documented protocols or anything.
do you mind if i contact you then for bits of information
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Not at all - visit ozrunways.com and send me a message on the 'contact me' page so I don't have to write my email address on a public forum.
We need more small cheap pilot apps available. I've made a bit of coin out of NAIPS but it's still far less than what I would get if I spent my time flipping burgers at McDonalds. Don't get too excited !!
Also, just out of personal interest, what and where do you fly?
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P3 Orion - the cold war relic
liam.lah said:
Ah, i have been reading your posts on PPruNe forums, if i do get my act together and start writing a similar app for android, do you mind if i contact you then for bits of information (ie what ASA said regarding scraping their material etc.)?
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Hey mate, just wondering if there has been any progress on developing a NAIPS based app for android yet. Because if there has been I would be keenly interested in it.
Not yet. There is no paid app store for Australia yet.
i'm interested to work on this app and it would be free app. however i'm very new to android and still learning.
my first app is KL Web Traffic which you can find on android market. if i know how to get the data and what this app do i don't mind working on it so i can improve my java/android programming skills.
Replying to a 3 year old thread because this app was the only thing keeping a mate of mine on IOS, and this is one of the top hits on Google search.
Check out thttps://sites.google.com/a/juddy.net/android/naips
There are a few now. "NOTAM Filter" is available on the play store and does Met and NOTAMs including areas.
Hi Guys, I had a bit of a genius idea for an App. Anyways I have got a quote from someone who can create it for me, what I am wondering is though, how difficult do Google make it to get an app uploaded. Do I need a developer license or upfront payment etc. I don't plan on releasing anymore (not anytime soon), what sort of difficulties/costs are involved? Also how does device compatibility work, do I need to list all compatibly devices or its it just based on O/S version?
hey guys can someone tell me is there any way to add play store time remaining feature to android 4.2.1 ?
And i request developers to please work on this feature it is very helpful feature....
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hey guys can someone tell me is there any way to add play store time remaining feature to android 4.2.1 ?
And i request developers to please work on this feature it is very helpful feature....
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Hello, and welcome to XDA!
I find those things inaccurate, as the notification area estimate (including percent complete) rarely matches (or comes close to) the Play Store app estimate. That also begs the question on responsibility...are you talking having time remaining within the app, or in the notification area?
Right now for either, it's a fight against time. With the former, you are dealing with an older version of Google Play and Google Play Services, the responsibility of Google and that version (guessing 6.x where current is 8.x) is critical security updates only (if any at all) - no feature requests allowed. The latter scenario, probably relies on the former for information, but if not, it would be the responsibility of your ROM developer (e.g. Samsung Touchwiz 4.2/CM10.1/et cetera). They are in the situation of getting only critical security updates (if any at all) as well. After all, Android 4.2.1 enters it's fourth year of existence in November, and the attitude of Google is once a new codename has been officially released, all attention goes towards the new version (so the older stuff quickly becomes "abandonware").
CyanogenMod has been good on keeping older Android versions alive. Not so much for themselves, but for the older ROM's that borrow their code. The recent StageFright problem (dubbed SF1.0 as there is now a new batch of vulnerabilities) CM went back as far as 10.1/4.2.2 to patch the problems. With latest SF2.0 and the recent release of Marshmallow/6.0 I don't know if CyanogenMod will go that far back for their fixes this time (I am watching, as I have some Android 4.4.4 stuff to patch and plan to base off of CM11).
That was the long. The short being, since 4.2.1 is no longer a priority, I don't see it happening. Sorry.
As a software developement company, we'd like to provide our customers a simple way to download and update our apps. Every customer has its individual stock of apps. Mostly, they do not have an IT departement.
Google Play Store for Work
This seems pretty much what we want. As for my understanding, the customer needs its own G-Suite. They need an administrator which gives us the possibility, to publish our apps to their private channel.
The thing is, we don't want them to do anything except downloading and updating the app.
Does anyone know, what we need to administrate this for them? Is this even possible, purchasing multiple G-Suite subscriptions?
I'm open for any new ideas, which might solve this issue.
Hi,
I think you'll need to ask Google about that. That's probably your best bet. Not much on xda about it either. You could ask here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
But I think talking to Google would be best.
Good luck!