Root and custom ROM/kernel or not!? - Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers

Hey i got the Pixel 3 and now i'm thinking about rooting my Pixel 3. If there are some ROMs or kernels that maybe are better for battery life than stock android 9?
Guys can you recommend some ROMs or kernels?
Thank you!

As will always be the case, no one can really answer as your usage situation will be different. Run stock at first, with root, and use better battery stats to see what your usage is. I am on DU rom and battery is ok, but I have one social media app that is always running. I can make it though the day though, so not bothered.

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CyanogenMod battery life

hey guys. I just bought an Nexus5(well...like 1 motnh ago actually) and I realized that I think I like CyanogemMod better then the default android(used cyanogen mod on my Galaxy S1 for 3 years).
My question is, how is the battery life on CyanogenMod compared to the stock default android 4.4.2 rom that nexus comes with?
Thnx in advance.
Rat2000 said:
hey guys. I just bought an Nexus5(well...like 1 motnh ago actually) and I realized that I think I like CyanogemMod better then the default android(used cyanogen mod on my Galaxy S1 for 3 years).
My question is, how is the battery life on CyanogenMod compared to the stock default android 4.4.2 rom that nexus comes with?
Thnx in advance.
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There's no good answer to your request imo.
You should check this out to have an idea of the average battery life. (or have a look at CM11's thread)
For instance you can install more apps thanks to root permissions so you will be able to install more apps and use more battery but it doesn't mean that the battery life is worse.
One advantage is that you can try different kernels and settings to find the best configuration as per your needs.
Rat2000 said:
My question is, how is the battery life on CyanogenMod compared to the stock default android 4.4.2 rom that nexus comes with?
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As with any battery life comparison, it's almost impossible to answer properly because there are far too many variables.
You'll get various answers saying it's much better / worse / the same. Ultimately the responses will be of limited value to you, because everyone's usage is different.
Thankfully you can always backup and try something out. Revert if if makes things worse.
Find out what's best for YOUR usage and preference, not someone else's...
And repeat this for every device / ROM / kernel combination
Battery life is what you make of it. I can make my phone last 8 hours or around a day and a half.
to prolong battery life I recommend turning off mobile data and sync when not in use. You can look into tasker (I think) to turn it on at specific times. Quick tiles help out or the app "power toggles" which I use
Ok, thnx guys. I think I will make an nanDroid backup and install cyanogen mod and see what happens.
Rat2000 said:
Ok, thnx guys. I think I will make an nanDroid backup and install cyanogen mod and see what happens.
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Cyanogen is well known but don't forget that we have other awesome roms
Flashing and testing is the solution.
Primokorn said:
Cyanogen is well known but don't forget that we have other awesome roms
Flashing and testing is the solution.
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This can't be stressed enough....
Not that I don't like CM work but there are other Devs who work just as hard to bring some awesome stuff to us.

[Q]Stock ROM with franco or CM11?

So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
battery is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and mostly the quality of your phone/data signal. using either cm kernel or franco kernel can give you great battery life or terrible battery life. any kernel will give you great battery life or terrible battery life.
Longi94 said:
So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
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Both are good and have their (dis)advantages. No one can tell you whats best cause different users have different preferences and needs. Best is to try them out yourself and see what you like best.
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
Longi94 said:
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
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im one of the heaviest users you will meet, yet i still see a minimum of 5h+ screen on time every day. set up your device right, and if you have a great signal you will have very hood battery life no matter what you use.
Combine rooted stock, Franco kernel and the Xposed framework plus it's various modules and you will get most of the Custom ROM features along with better battery life and stability. I'm very pleased with that combo.
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[Q] Rooting and its basics

I've rooted one phone in my history of rooting - the mytouch 4g. I found it very unstable during that process thus my hold off of rooting until now.
I have a Nexus 5, thus me creating a thread in this forum. I know many will just tell me to google or whatever but I rather get someone's actual response to my post.
That said, what is the different between a ROM and a Kernal. And how can one tell if one is better than another?
I think I want what everyone wants in their phones - stability and extended battery life.
Thanks again.
a rom is the ui, it gives the user variables to adjust and can add some features. a kernel is the central control of your whole phone. it ties the cpu to the rest of your phone, and to your ui. the kernel is like the brain, where the rom is like the outside/skin of the body.
hiw do you know which is better? only by trying them out. some phones will like certain kernels better than others, and you wont know which until you try.
Hi,
Sorry to give you a link to explain what is a rom and what is a kernel, but anyway: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel, for me it's a good start.
About battery life it's not the rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a "bug"), at least the kernel can play its role but it's mainly your use and settings, the apps you use...
If you have a bad signal reception or a rogue apps with a ton of wakelocks, whatever the rom or the kernel, it will be always the same thing.
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Sorry to give you a link to explain what is a rom and what is a kernel, but anyway: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel, for me it's a good start.
About battery life it's not the rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a "bug"), at least the kernel can play its role but it's mainly your use and settings, the apps you use...
If you have a bad signal reception or a rogue apps with a ton of wakelocks, whatever the rom or the kernel, it will be always the same thing.
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Hammer-thanks for the link. Very informative for me and I am sure others.
Doc
TXRaunchy said:
I've rooted one phone in my history of rooting - the mytouch 4g. I found it very unstable during that process thus my hold off of rooting until now.
I have a Nexus 5, thus me creating a thread in this forum. I know many will just tell me to google or whatever but I rather get someone's actual response to my post.
That said, what is the different between a ROM and a Kernal. And how can one tell if one is better than another?
I think I want what everyone wants in their phones - stability and extended battery life.
Thanks again.
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I`am not rooted also atm, the device does everything that i need it to do to be honest. Rooting is handy and usefull if you want to use features or do things that cannot be done with the stock configuration. Read the first 4 threads in the General section well if you want to learn the basics of rooting.

[Q] Worth flashing?

Hi, got the 1+1 at last, was watching the rom dev and thought, this is an amazing phone...
Is it really worth changing rom and potentially losing a few features with bugs etc. I think the battery life is really good but I wonder if the custom kernels gain even more battery? I understand that different roms have new features etc. but this phone is pretty good already..I'm thinking about flashing and unlocking the bootloader, but it would only be to improve battery performance if at all possible..
- Does changing from the stock rom improve battery life at all?
- Any other things I should know before flashing?
therightperson_630 said:
Hi, got the 1+1 at last, was watching the rom dev and thought, this is an amazing phone...
Is it really worth changing rom and potentially losing a few features with bugs etc. I think the battery life is really good but I wonder if the custom kernels gain even more battery? I understand that different roms have new features etc. but this phone is pretty good already..I'm thinking about flashing and unlocking the bootloader, but it would only be to improve battery performance if at all possible..
- Does changing from the stock rom improve battery life at all?
- Any other things I should know before flashing?
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Some say they get better battery life, some say it becomes worse with custom kernels. Afaik, currently theonly custom kernel for CM11S is franco's. Some users (including myself) get random reboots with it.
therightperson_630 said:
Hi, got the 1+1 at last, was watching the rom dev and thought, this is an amazing phone...
Is it really worth changing rom and potentially losing a few features with bugs etc. I think the battery life is really good but I wonder if the custom kernels gain even more battery? I understand that different roms have new features etc. but this phone is pretty good already..I'm thinking about flashing and unlocking the bootloader, but it would only be to improve battery performance if at all possible..
- Does changing from the stock rom improve battery life at all?
- Any other things I should know before flashing?
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Battery life is very dependant on how each person uses their device, some people have an increase in battery life and some people have a decrease. The only way you're going to know for sure is by testing yourself. But you know the old saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Good to know, thanks. I'll see what franco's kernel offers me.. for now I'm a bit sceptical. I'd rather wait and see for a few months and when bugs have been fixed I'll make my decision then. They're going to offer Android L as well...before I'd flash my phones for more performance (htc dream G1/LG O2X/Xperia SP) but this phone is good enough already..
Thanks though

[Q] Custom ROM vs Stock ROM (thoughts/suggestions/etc)

One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?
1. Day one I rooted.
2. Most roms on a nexus are stable... Except maybe some nighties, which are works in progress.
3. Roms have very little impact on battery life.... So don't use that as a deciding point.
4. Mostly you'll just get a list of the most popular roms when you ask that. But I'll say Graviton. Cause it's a little different than some... And the Dev is very active in his rom thread. Always a good thing.
5. questions go in Q&A. For future reference. ?
Please post questions in the Q&A section
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I have rooted the device, the first day I got it, uninstalled bloatware and other crap, installed *my* favorite Apple and I am happy. I did Not finden *any* thing, which could not be customized. What specific point are you missing in customization? My device runs fine, I use Greenify app, so the battery runs about 48 to 60 hours depending on the programs I use. Video is more battery consuming that making a call of course.
@x000111
There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
C3C076 said:
@x000111
There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
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Wow, I just started using Xposed on my tablet but didn't realize it was capable of all of this. Definitely going to try this out before flashing a new ROM.
P.S. Sorry, not sure what I was thinking... for some reason, I thought I was posting in Q&A.
I left it for 3 months. Then used xposed and gravity box to get the notification toggles the way they should be.
I shouldn't have to have it take me into settings to toggle data on and off.
Other than that stock is pretty well perfect for me.
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x000111 said:
Android at is purest.
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Stock Nexus is Android at its purest... with Google apps and services added.
After the OTA images of Lollipop came out, I knew since I was rooted, I would have to do a manual install. So I'm back to stock (non-rooted). Right now, I don't see a reason to root. So far Lollipop 5.0 is serving it's purpose. Yet another huge step in the right direction by Google.
Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.
gamer.11 said:
Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.
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AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.
I ordered mine Oct 31 last year. Unlocked the bootloader day one. Probably stayed stock for a bit, don't know how many custom ROMs were out at the start.
Stayed on Cataclysm for a long time, went to Purity. Flashed stock 5.0, was on that a few days and now a custom ROM again.
Primokorn said:
AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.
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I know about that, no offense to the current rom builders but I was more like waiting for slimpop or cm12 or paranoid android roms. But I have a question most of the roms come with gapps built in them which i find confusing as no rom built from source should do that, or are they just themed or mod-ed stock roms?(which is the primary reason i haven't yet tried them out)
x000111 said:
One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?
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1 - an hour
2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
3 - no. This is entirely down to the user I'll expand below
4 - waiting for Slim. Suits my needs. Unique and useful features
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM,*ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery*if they have a feature that is badly coded.* You will likely be able*to read about this in the ROM threads.* ROMs do not impact battery*life.* The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings,*how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone*Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective.* What we*all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the*misconception that Kernels affect battery life.* Let's get this*cleared up.* Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and*efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY*tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery*life".* This is actually wrong. *Kernels respond to user settings.*Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance*is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning.* The reason*people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their*kernels up with their preferred governor settings.* This is what we*refer to as out-of-the-box settings.* The out-of-the-box settings for*kernel x may well produce better battery results than the*out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance.* The*fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to*perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning*how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based*on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits*of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
rootSU said:
2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
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I'm looking forward to Slim coming out for Lollipop too.
rootSU said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term....
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery...
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Thanks for the info. That is not what I'm asking or referring to. My main purpose for posting this was to see how other Nexus5 users are using their phones... I kind of wish I had named the thread after the poll I put up: What best describes the usage of your Nexus 5?
rootSU said:
For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
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I haven't had any battery issues but I'm always interested in improving battery life.
rootSU said:
Hope this helps
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Those are some good resources. Thanks for posting.

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