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AT&T Replace my Fuze because...

I was using my Fuze the other day, and was scrolling down a website with the stylus, when all of a sudden the god damn stylus scratched my screen. As you can imagine i was mortified and shocked. A big gash only a week into owning my beautiful new fuze. So i take it in and tell them what happened and they gladly replaced the phone. Nice people! Guess the 30 day period does cover scratches, if by stylus!

thats odd, glad they swapped it for you. was your stylus's point sharper then usual?

So....
It's a good thing to treat your new styli to a bit of emery cloth before you start playing.

Erm... The first thing I did when I got my fuze was throw on that screen protector. Would be foolish if ya didn't do that the second go round.

supapimp2k3 said:
Erm... The first thing I did when I got my fuze was throw on that screen protector. Would be foolish if ya didn't do that the second go round.
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When you say "that" screen protector. Are you saying they provided one with the FUZE in the box? Or did you buy one separately?

Yes one does come inside the box.

I was applying my invisible shield today and a little bit of the solution got into the earpiece duct, about 10 minutes later my touch screen was no longer functional. I've already returned my phone and getting a new one Saturday. Be careful with your phones guys, a little liquid and its all over.

I love the included screen protector. I've used alot of protectors over the past decade and the stock one holds up better than most (especially for free). I still don't have so much as a blemish on it even with alot of active use and it traveling in my pocket (but no keys). And it's such a good fit that when people check out my phone they tell me that, "You really should get a screen protector before you get any scratches on the glass."
Joke's on them.

I never even looked in the bag with the quick start guide, sure enough a screen protector and another screen protector that comes on the phone with all the warnings on it.

Included protector
Does anyone know the manufacturer of the included protector?
I didn't get mine aligned properly, some dust started peeling it from the corner so I had to ditch it and got an invisible shield, but I liked the included one because until you get use to it, the invible shield takes some getting use to.

Just peel your included screen protector off, wash it with some soapy water, and reapply it to your screen again (while still damp, but not drippy wet). Smooth it out and gently move all the bubbles of water out to the edges of the screen, and voila.
It doesn't specifically use a tacky glue so you can reapply it again and again. I do the same trick on my DS for perfectly clear and aligned protection.
Same trick people that tinted my car windows used for getting the plastic onto glass.

killer2001 said:
I was applying my invisible shield today and a little bit of the solution got into the earpiece duct, about 10 minutes later my touch screen was no longer functional. I've already returned my phone and getting a new one Saturday. Be careful with your phones guys, a little liquid and its all over.
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Did you wait 12-24hr before putting the battery back in and powering it up after installing the invisibleshield? Because you are supposed to, to prevent exactly what happened.

Dang It, I need to double check my trash. I had no idea they provided a screen protector. It was in a bag with the quick start guide?

TriAxisFL said:
Dang It, I need to double check my trash. I had no idea they provided a screen protector. It was in a bag with the quick start guide?
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Yep
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Best Scratch Guards: Best Skins Ever vs Invisible Shields vs Ghost Armor vs Body Guar

Every gadget owner loves their devices be it Cell Phones, Laptops, GPS, Gaming Consoles, etc. and would never want our devices to get scratchy, dirtily, peel off or loose their color and shine. For this some of us freaks keep cleaning out devices or cover them with cheap looking low quality plastic guard just to see it getting peeled off soon and getting all scratches just to buy another one in few weeks. This is because many of us are unaware of some of the finest Body Scratch Guards which themselves can never attain a scratch.
Yes, that’s true and this article is about Top 4 Body Guards covering not just the screen but the complete body of your device, that I came across. I’ll just be giving my honest reviews about all four of them and leave the rest on you to decide which you prefer.
you can find the comparison here:
http://winmo.techparaiso.com/best-s...isible-shields-vs-ghost-armor-vs-body-guardz/

Well based on peoples experience here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398021
I can safely say Invisible shield is not a good solution. Generally anything that adheres to your device runs the risk that your finish will lift off if you ever decide to remove the shield.

band27 said:
Well based on peoples experience here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398021
I can safely say Invisible shield is not a good solution. Generally anything that adheres to your device runs the risk that your finish will lift off if you ever decide to remove the shield.
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i would still like to see some screenshots of bestskinsever for diamond as nothing is available anywhere.

want the best protector? Buy a psp HORI Protector, cut to size. 100% invisible and only a knife will scratch it. 2 for .99 on ebay

I'd also love to hear people experience with Best Skins Ever. I'm a sucker and always buy the zagg.com stuff, price = quality after all... but would be willing to grab a BSE skin based on peoples reviews, as the markup on zagg.com is ridiculous.
One thing, I dislike with the zagg.com skins is, after a while the protector appears as if it has a gasoline like stain in the middle of it, symmetrical to about half an inch away from the edge of the screen on all sides. So basically a mini rectangle on the inner portion of the display. Any else experience this? and does the BSE have this tendency?
P.S. Don't forget BodyGuardz

I've been using Invisible shield by Zagg since I bought my Diamond and I completly agree with Lokosis. I also feel the corners are becoming a bit rough, it looks like someone can just pull it off.
* Doesn't fit into my HTC pouch anymore (see picture attached).
* Attracts a lot of dust.
* Don't need a bulky case anymore.
* Gives the back cover a shiny effect.

well yesterday i received my best skins for diamond. i must say delivery was really fast but a little disappointed. i'll tell you why later.
also i'll be posting the pics of my diamond soon.

I bought a full cover from invisible shield about a week and a half ago but am still waiting for it to be shipped to me since I live in Australia and there is not stock here.
Didn't realize there was a cheaper alternate to it. I've got to say I'm a bit worried after just reading that post that says it can damage the screen when you remove it after a while...but hopefully I will never have to remove it

AdamHC said:
I bought a full cover from invisible shield about a week and a half ago but am still waiting for it to be shipped to me since I live in Australia and there is not stock here.
Didn't realize there was a cheaper alternate to it. I've got to say I'm a bit worried after just reading that post that says it can damage the screen when you remove it after a while...but hopefully I will never have to remove it
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nothing to wory dude. even i first bought IS and den after an hour got to know about BSE so i ordered that too. i'd a talk with IS ppl and they say that when i receive the item, then i should take out the screen guard, put it in envelope and send it back to there address. thats it. they said they dont need the box of spray or anything. just the invisible shield in an envelope. and as soon as they receive it, they'll refund you the money. sending it back in envelope is much cheeper and you save alot. so order BSE now and wait for IS to arrive and send it back

invisible? are you blind?
Well, it's a good screen protector, but it's definitely not invisible...
Are you blind guys?
I just got the screen one and not the whole case skin because I own an o2 Ignito which has a lovely-grippy-rubber-feeling-matt-black back cover, although it is not as sexy as the standard Diamond my wife has.
I was honestly quite disappointed because it is expensive and honestly looks crap compared to cheaper alternatives.
Have you ever tried Vikuiti by 3M guys?
I have it on my Orbit (it's a PSP screen protector, I opened the Orbit and cut the film on the proper size of the display, once re-assembled you can't see any edge at all) it's impossible to leave fingerprints and it is anti-reflection.
The Diamond one is gloss finishing instead, it costs € 8 on eBay (german seller but ships worldwide)

The invisible shield finally arrived. It wouldn't stick to my screen...lol
Well it stuck to the screen, just that the edges are supposed to bend and protect the sides too and no matter how long i held the edges in their positions for they would just unpeel themselves after a couple of minutes. Gave up on the screen, the rest all went on easily and without any visible bubble thingies. I'm not sure if I really care enough to get a new screen protector for the screen, I was more worried about the back of the phone to be honest
Still kinda dissapointed that the screen protector ended up failing for me

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The invisible shield finally arrived. It wouldn't stick to my screen...lol
Well it stuck to the screen, just that the edges are supposed to bend and protect the sides too and no matter how long i held the edges in their positions for they would just unpeel themselves after a couple of minutes. Gave up on the screen, the rest all went on easily and without any visible bubble thingies. I'm not sure if I really care enough to get a new screen protector for the screen, I was more worried about the back of the phone to be honest
Still kinda dissapointed that the screen protector ended up failing for me
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i really don understand where u guys fail. i understand that d edges don stick up but it takes half an hour effort to do it. its easy but takes times and u constantly hav to make it stick.
rest both BSE and IS are great. the point is to make it wet properly and den apply.
the only issue i had is that the IS solution went in my front camera screen and has made it blurred.
rest both are the same according to me.
also to be noted that you do not need to use IS spray. instead you can even put your IS in soapy solutions and apply it like BSE.
the aim is to 1st attch is properly on front screen. let it dry and then bend the edges.

sunnyin86 said:
i really don understand where u guys fail. i understand that d edges don stick up but it takes half an hour effort to do it. its easy but takes times and u constantly hav to make it stick.
rest both BSE and IS are great. the point is to make it wet properly and den apply.
the only issue i had is that the IS solution went in my front camera screen and has made it blurred.
rest both are the same according to me.
also to be noted that you do not need to use IS spray. instead you can even put your IS in soapy solutions and apply it like BSE.
the aim is to 1st attch is properly on front screen. let it dry and then bend the edges.
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I used enough of the solution, got it lined up perfectly with the phone. It was the edge bits that have to be bent to protect the sides where I went wrong. Just couldn't get them to stick and stay stuck properly for some reason

AdamHC said:
I used enough of the solution, got it lined up perfectly with the phone. It was the edge bits that have to be bent to protect the sides where I went wrong. Just couldn't get them to stick and stay stuck properly for some reason
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it takes alot of time for sure. for half an hour i kept trying and thought maybe the adhesive wasnt strong enough. but there are two things, 1st you have to use alot of spray to smoothly allign it on screen and then this excess spray avoids the sides to stick onn. so patience, repeated efforts and only when the solution dries up, that is when it starts to stick onn. very tough for sure but in the end it pays off.
BUT the diff bet IS and BSE is that BSE only covers the screen and does not cover the sides so there is no bending problem like IS.

sunnyin86 said:
it takes alot of time for sure. for half an hour i kept trying and thought maybe the adhesive wasnt strong enough. but there are two things, 1st you have to use alot of spray to smoothly allign it on screen and then this excess spray avoids the sides to stick onn. so patience, repeated efforts and only when the solution dries up, that is when it starts to stick onn. very tough for sure but in the end it pays off.
BUT the diff bet IS and BSE is that BSE only covers the screen and does not cover the sides so there is no bending problem like IS.
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In that case I think I might buy one of the BSE. I think that trying to protect the sides is simply too much effort and is tedious. Besides that, the sides are fairly scratch resistant and you can't even see those scratches if them do occur without having to look for them anyway. I really think IS should have skipped trying to protect them or made a second piece to go around the outside.

both are sam so betteer to opt for bse. am loving it.

more pros n cons on bse please......
i found that they didn't provide spray bottle....

mygreatdiamond said:
more pros n cons on bse please......
i found that they didn't provide spray bottle....
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its best not to have spray. as spray gets into front camera and spoils it. best to use simple soap water.

BodyGuardz vs BestSkinsEver
Hello,
Here is my experience. I had a InvisibleSHIELD on my iPod Classic and it was great so I was considering buying one but after reading some of the the feed back it seemed that the product was good but the fit for our diamonds and even the iPhone (which i am now looking for) was not great.
I then heard about BestSkinsEver and because it was so cheap decided to go ahead and try it. I got it over 2 months ago and when I received it I applied it immediately. I have done a few of these so and since I am some what of a perfectionist I applied it to the best I could. It looked OK but after a few weeks the corners started peeling. Also due to the way the backing is placed it puts stress in areas which causes other areas to lift off (this is mostly on the corners). I ended up using a nail clipper to start clipping areas that were peeling off. After about 2 months it started to peal even more so I decided to go back to the reviews and see what was available. After doing some research I decided to go with the 12 piece BodyGuardz. It came in a set of 2 which is nice when i transfer the phone to my wife.
So all of this is to tell you that my first impressions of the BodyGuardz is well as good as I felt when I put the InvisibleSHIELD on my first iPod Classic. For me it did take a while (about 2-3 hours) to apply. This was not done in one sitting but instead because it was a 12 piece I applied each piece with 10 minute intervals allowing for tackiness to set in and so it would be easier to handle as I continued with the many pieces. First major thing I noticed and was really happy about was the BodyGuardz stickiness was considerably more than the BestSkinsEver. It stuck to the corners almost right away. Although throughout the process I did press down on the corners it was quite a bit easier as the BestSkinsEver did not have good stickiness. Also on a side note when i removed the BestSkinsEver it came of like a sticker which i know from my previous iPod is not normal and it usually takes a lot more effort to get it off carefully. Overall I am very happy at my first impressions of the BodyGuardz and the quality of the material seems to be better than the BestSkinsEver. Not to mention the 12 piece may seem like a lot of work but having individual pieces allows for no stress on the film in weird areas allowing it to sit flat with no parts lifting off (so far, i'll update in a month or two). Which is not the same case for the BestSkinsEver and from what I hear the InvisibleSHIELD. Newayz I hope this review helps someone.
Justin

Mr. Makk said:
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I never sprayed the device only the shield itself. I would not recommend spraying the device. That said I do like the spray on the shield as it is a bit more even but you can use any spray bottle. I got one with Bodyguardz but there was not enough fluid in it so i had to fill it up with my own solution newayz.

Removed My Whitestone Protector

I finally had enough. I removed the first one and reapplied using the new instructions and I was still having issues with the fingerprint sensor. I have to say that with it removed, it works so much better. I installed a film protector and it still works great. I'm done with Whitestone as it was a total waste of money. I emailed them and they told me that I would have to uninstall it without breaking the screen protector in order to get a refund. Good luck with that.

I have no issues with mine. Sure, the fingerprint sensor doesn't work as well but it's damn-near close.
Quick question for you though:
Do you remember where the 4 nipples (dots) were located on your glass?
The reason I'm asking is because I originally got the single pack and the glass had 4 little dots (2 on the top and 2 on the bottom) that I assume were used as spacers.
My second box was a two pack (because I effed up my first attempt) and the dots were now located on the left and right sides. I think they changed how the design of the protector and how it lifts itself up for the adhesive to improve fingerprint recognition. The 1st box had the "4 full"printed on the front while the 2nd box only said "3 full" (didn't have the "full-filling" listed).
Maybe you have what I would consider 1st Gen and I'm using 2nd Gen?
I did have issues shortly after install, but about every 6 hours I added new fingerprints and removed the old, each time was improving more and more. I did this for a day or so and now that I flashed the ASD3 firmware it's about as good as the stock Samsung film that was installed.
My theory is that the glue is still curing. As it cures, your fingerprints appear different, making the registered fingerprints look different than what it sees after more cure time.
I wouldn't give up just yet, in my opinion.

Outbreak444 said:
I have no issues with mine. Sure, the fingerprint sensor doesn't work as well but it's damn-near close.
Quick question for you though:
Do you remember where the 4 nipples (dots) were located on your glass?
The reason I'm asking is because I originally got the single pack and the glass had 4 little dots (2 on the top and 2 on the bottom) that I assume were used as spacers.
My second box was a two pack (because I effed up my first attempt) and the dots were now located on the left and right sides. I think they changed how the design of the protector and how it lifts itself up for the adhesive to improve fingerprint recognition. The 1st box had the "4 full"printed on the front while the 2nd box only said "3 full" (didn't have the "full-filling" listed).
Maybe you have what I would consider 1st Gen and I'm using 2nd Gen?
I did have issues shortly after install, but about every 6 hours I added new fingerprints and removed the old, each time was improving more and more. I did this for a day or so and now that I flashed the ASD3 firmware it's about as good as the stock Samsung film that was installed.
My theory is that the glue is still curing. As it cures, your fingerprints appear different, making the registered fingerprints look different than what it sees after more cure time.
I wouldn't give up just yet, in my opinion.
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I'm using a generic brand UV cured protector ($10 off eBay) and it works great after re-registering my fingerprint a week after application.
I think you're absolutely right about the glue continuing to cure after the initial cure process using the lamp..

Outbreak444 said:
I have no issues with mine. Sure, the fingerprint sensor doesn't work as well but it's damn-near close.
Quick question for you though:
Do you remember where the 4 nipples (dots) were located on your glass?
The reason I'm asking is because I originally got the single pack and the glass had 4 little dots (2 on the top and 2 on the bottom) that I assume were used as spacers.
My second box was a two pack (because I effed up my first attempt) and the dots were now located on the left and right sides. I think they changed how the design of the protector and how it lifts itself up for the adhesive to improve fingerprint recognition. The 1st box had the "4 full"printed on the front while the 2nd box only said "3 full" (didn't have the "full-filling" listed).
Maybe you have what I would consider 1st Gen and I'm using 2nd Gen?
I did have issues shortly after install, but about every 6 hours I added new fingerprints and removed the old, each time was improving more and more. I did this for a day or so and now that I flashed the ASD3 firmware it's about as good as the stock Samsung film that was installed.
My theory is that the glue is still curing. As it cures, your fingerprints appear different, making the registered fingerprints look different than what it sees after more cure time.
I wouldn't give up just yet, in my opinion.
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I probably had the 1st generation because I received them before I even got the phones. I have already given up as I am done dealing with this company. I have used them before and over time, stuff always seems to get up around the edges. I already went through both protectors so I'm done at this point. The fingerprint sensor works so much better without it anyhow. Now I barely have to press for it to work where as before I had to push down pretty hard.

I'm getting ready to remove mine as well. It's incredibly soft. I literally took a chunk out of it with my fingernail trying to scrape off what I thought was a piece of dirt on it.

Varekai said:
I'm getting ready to remove mine as well. It's incredibly soft. I literally took a chunk out of it with my fingernail trying to scrape off what I thought was a piece of dirt on it.
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That's not good at all. Was it ever dropped? Maybe it was later facedown on something hard that cussed a small crack.
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fOmey said:
I'm using a generic brand UV cured protector ($10 off eBay) and it works great after re-registering my fingerprint a week after application.
I think you're absolutely right about the glue continuing to cure after the initial cure process using the lamp..
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Which one? I saw some on Ali Express but not too trusting on the fingerprint sensor part. Which is the one you got that does work with fingerprint sensor??

Wagedroid said:
Which one? I saw some on Ali Express but not too trusting on the fingerprint sensor part. Which is the one you got that does work with fingerprint sensor??
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Anything that cures with a UV lamp will work.. they all come out of the same factory anyway.
Just need a little patience and ensure its cured before registering your fingerprint.

Varekai said:
I'm getting ready to remove mine as well. It's incredibly soft. I literally took a chunk out of it with my fingernail trying to scrape off what I thought was a piece of dirt on it.
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and this thing costs 50 dollar??? LOL

destz0r said:
and this thing costs 50 dollar??? LOL
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Yeah... But the replacement glass is only 9.99
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That's not good at all. Was it ever dropped? Maybe it was later facedown on something hard that cussed a small crack.
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Yeah, from maybe 2 feet off the couch arm onto a plastic vinyl flooring. Which if this protector can't survive that than it's definitely not work it. But now there's a crack going straight across it that just appeared today. I'm hoping it's a fluke with this particular protector and that these just aren't that flimsy.

steelersmb said:
I probably had the 1st generation because I received them before I even got the phones. I have already given up as I am done dealing with this company. I have used them before and over time, stuff always seems to get up around the edges. I already went through both protectors so I'm done at this point. The fingerprint sensor works so much better without it anyhow. Now I barely have to press for it to work where as before I had to push down pretty hard.
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Don't worry about it as I've tried both versions (side and bottom dot) with the latest instructions and cured with a much more expensive uv lamp, and neither worked.
I too gave up on the Whitestone, that was with ASBA. Maybe the new firmware could make it work, but I have no idea as I already returned both of mine.

I got a 2-pack, would not work no matter what I do, followed the instructions and videos to the dot. Got a replacement and still doesn't work, I give up on Whitestone Dome, got full refund. Clearly they are not trying to address the issue so I'm not going to support them until they do something about their false advertising.

I've also bought the whitestone screen protector.. Cost me $52 Sing dollars.. The shop install it for me and it look perfect.. I've went back home after a few hours and tried registering my fingerprints.. It was then I discovered that I could not even register my prints.. I tried very hard for many times and it was a terrible feeling I have for such a expensive screen protector.. With little luck I was to frustrated and remove it.. In the removal process it was another heartbreaking experience where the glass protector shatter into smaller pieces and I literally had to use a small pocket knife to scrap off the broken pieces...

Before the whitestone protector I had a similar protection which I broke it. I can tell you some conclusions: do not hurry with registering fingerprints. It seems the glue needs some days (maybe a week) to reach the final and stable composition. For me it takes two weeks to register fingerprints properly because I noticed the behaviour changes slightly from day to day. Also I mention here the registering the same finger in two different positions.
The first glass become usable after about two weeks. The unlock rate was about 4 of 5 and also it needs a little more pressure which also became smaller in time. For me it was ok. When I reached this point the phone falls down and I broke it. I wanted to order another but the store was out of stock so I bought whitestone dome glass. I replaced the glass and the new one did not need another adjusments, also it seems to be little more sensitive that the first one. The only thing that starts to bother me is the dust and dirt that gathers in the front camera hole.

MoshPuiu said:
Before the whitestone protector I had a similar protection which I broke it. I can tell you some conclusions: do not hurry with registering fingerprints. It seems the glue needs some days (maybe a week) to reach the final and stable composition.
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Going to let you know, this is false. The glue is an AWFUL quality LOCA, a few redditors did some research on it (who use real LOCA daily). I pulled the Whitestone off my S9+ after a year, and it was still slightly tacky. That's not "needing to reach stability", that's just **** quality.
My Note 9 had the same issue, but I only had it on for a few months. Whitestone is just poor quality.

Phone doesnt unfold flat, or completely.

Hey guys so I bought my z fold 2 about a month ago on ebay. I got a pretty good deal on a Verizon variant because they unlock after 60 days. Well today I was playing with my phone and I realized that mine doesn't open up completely flat. There's a slight angle to it. I'm too scared to try trying to give it a little force to open all the way because I dont want to break something. I guess I can take it in to get repaired but it doesn't really affect it functionally. It just messes with my ocd bad that it's not completely flat when opened. It's just a slight angle you wouldnt even notice it unless you looked for it but I know it does indeed not open all the way because my mother in law and father in law both have the z fold 2 and theirs opens flat unlike mine.
Also I've had the most expensive spigen case on it since day 1 and I've been extremely careful to keep it clean and free of dirt and stuff so I'm not sure exactly what it is going on. My main concern is since I bought it on ebay I won't be able to use the warranty to get it fixed right? Or will I be able to. And if anyone has any ideas maybe I can fix it I'm open to suggestions. Thanks guys.

yacopsae said:
Hey guys so I bought my z fold 2 about a month ago on ebay. I got a pretty good deal on a Verizon variant because they unlock after 60 days. Well today I was playing with my phone and I realized that mine doesn't open up completely flat. There's a slight angle to it. I'm too scared to try trying to give it a little force to open all the way because I dont want to break something. I guess I can take it in to get repaired but it doesn't really affect it functionally. It just messes with my ocd bad that it's not completely flat when opened. It's just a slight angle you wouldnt even notice it unless you looked for it but I know it does indeed not open all the way because my mother in law and father in law both have the z fold 2 and theirs opens flat unlike mine.
Also I've had the most expensive spigen case on it since day 1 and I've been extremely careful to keep it clean and free of dirt and stuff so I'm not sure exactly what it is going on. My main concern is since I bought it on ebay I won't be able to use the warranty to get it fixed right? Or will I be able to. And if anyone has any ideas maybe I can fix it I'm open to suggestions. Thanks guys.
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The angle you are mentioning is from the inside or outside after unfolding?
Mine is flat from the inside but when u put it on a desk both sides will not touch the table.

My screen isn't flat. It has a slight angle to it. Like say if the left half is flat. The right half curves upwards just slightly. Like I said it doesnt affect it functionaly but it kills my ocd knowing it should be straight.

So I was messing with my phone right now and I go to unfold it and it like snapped open completely. There's no angle anymore. It's flat. Idk what happened or what was wrong with it or what fixed it or if the problem will come back but I thought I'd let you guys know.

yacopsae said:
Hey guys so I bought my z fold 2 about a month ago on ebay. I got a pretty good deal on a Verizon variant because they unlock after 60 days. Well today I was playing with my phone and I realized that mine doesn't open up completely flat. There's a slight angle to it. I'm too scared to try trying to give it a little force to open all the way because I dont want to break something. I guess I can take it in to get repaired but it doesn't really affect it functionally. It just messes with my ocd bad that it's not completely flat when opened. It's just a slight angle you wouldnt even notice it unless you looked for it but I know it does indeed not open all the way because my mother in law and father in law both have the z fold 2 and theirs opens flat unlike mine.
Also I've had the most expensive spigen case on it since day 1 and I've been extremely careful to keep it clean and free of dirt and stuff so I'm not sure exactly what it is going on. My main concern is since I bought it on ebay I won't be able to use the warranty to get it fixed right? Or will I be able to. And if anyone has any ideas maybe I can fix it I'm open to suggestions. Thanks guys.
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I've never heard of that. Are you sure it's not the case? If you remove case does it still not open all the way flat?

brazcub said:
I've never heard of that. Are you sure it's not the case? If you remove case does it still not open all the way flat?
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It doesn't do it anymore but yes when it was doing it even without the case it would not open all the way

Did you ever resolve this? I've had the same issue with my fold 3. I believe it opened 180 degrees when I first got it a fee weeks ago. Then I noticed one day that it only opens to about 175 now. Everything works, but it is annoying

I'm getting the same issue not sure what it is but I have a theory. I just came from outside where it is cold(Winter) then when I come into my home to unfold my zfold2, It wouldn't open all the way. By any chance was it winter in your area when this occurred?

Gotta replace your whole folding screen

Hi there! A guy on Reddit said that he managed to fix it using his vacuum cleaner. He kept on vacuuming the hinge several times a day for a week, and he finally managed to make it open 180º flat again. My wife has this same issue. I'm gonna try this.
Anyway, I feel like this foldable smartphones are still in "beta". There are too many issues with the screen (bubbles, vivid pixels, strange lines, dust inside the hinge mechanism...). And Samsung's service is absolutely poor. Would never recommend the Z Flip, even though it's a fast phone with nice cameras.

Fold the phone, then carefully slide a piece of a sticky note in the gap between the hinge and the front/rear Cover an move slowly towards the top of the phone. You may have to repeat this process several times until all dust, hair and other unwanted stuff comes out. Tested working on Z Fold2, where it is slightly easier due to the bigger gap and the Fold3. Both phones fully unfold again.
I keep doing this once in a while to keep the phones in this condition

i have the same issue as well, if you google it ... it seems to be quite a common issue .. I tried to use those can air blowers .. which didn't really help and my inner screen starts flicking after a few days
Sent the phone back to samsung and requested for them to clean the hinge, but was told I need to replace the entire hinge for about 550 USD.

tigergl said:
Fold the phone, then carefully slide a piece of a sticky note in the gap between the hinge and the front/rear Cover an move slowly towards the top of the phone. You may have to repeat this process several times until all dust, hair and other unwanted stuff comes out. Tested working on Z Fold2, where it is slightly easier due to the bigger gap and the Fold3. Both phones fully unfold again.
I keep doing this once in a while to keep the phones in this condition
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i have the same problem.could you please make a video of that process please? been doing it for the last 1 days still not fully unfold. i dont know if i doing it wrong

I should have left mine alone cuz I made it worse paper is too weak and tears inside so I guess I made an expensive paperweight.

Question Screen De-Lamination: That was Fast!

My Flip 3 is about nine months old. Enclosed are two pictures, one from midnight on July 4, the second from 11:30 the next morning (noon-ish, July 4). The device was left open overnight because I was backing up my files to a USB stick in preparation for Samsung's fix of the screen. You can see the de-lamination of the factory-installed screen protector spread overnight from one-half the screen, across then entire fold-area, to encompass the entire screen, in less than 12 hours. There was no damage to the screen before the de-lamination started two days ago (July 2). The first indication was a tiny spontaneous de-lamination at the far right edge where the screen folds.
The phone is lovingly cared for, never dropped, no tears, no scratches on the protective film, no water exposure, battery-saver (85%) on, slow-chaage always on, etc... The phone is otherwise in "like new" condition. Samsung support recommends a local "UBreakIFix" store for the repair. I'll let you guys know how the repair goes.
So the "cost" for using this phone, so far, is $100 a month. $900 divided by 9 months, before it's now so fragile it can't be safely used. Wow.

That sucks.
Another dropped ball from Samsung.
This was predictable. Samsung exceeded the limits of the plastics and adhesive system. It is a high risk technical venture and they likely will never have the durability most would like.

As long as the screen underneath isn't cracked/loose, it should be fixable by removing the plastic screen protector and applying your own

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As long as the screen underneath isn't cracked/loose, it should be fixable by removing the plastic screen protector and applying your own
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Yeah, the phone is in perfect condition, except for the protected coming off. If it were out of warranty I'd probablly try to fix it myself.
Interestingly, the local Samsung-authorized repair sites near me are taking one look at the phone and saying (even before they look at it), "No, we don't fix those. Check one of the other repair sites.... ." They say they'd need to replace the entire screen, rather than peel/apply a new protector. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with such an involved process being done by "just anybody." This phone is just so intricate it's hard to imagine a local repair store having the experience needed to "cut open the glued bits, avoid cutting the cables, replacing the screen, and gluing everything back together so it's secure and waterproof."
If Samsung has to fix it themselves then if the phone fails again they have no one but themselves to blame.
Does anyone here have experience with Samsung replacing their phone screen?

I took off the original screen protector about 4 weeks ago. It had no damage, but curiosity beat me and I wanted to try the real, naked screen
It felt sooooooo goooood! Smooth, no fingerprints, brighter, touch nav was better, no rainbow effect ect.
Went naked for over 3 weeks and no scratches or anything. But, a couple of days ago I applied myself the whitestone film. Easy to apply and It's better then samsungs.
So, had a nice adventure

I've read in many places that Samsung will honor the warranty even after removing the plastic screen. Double check on that, but I highly recommend replacing it
Had mine for barely a month before I couldn't deal with all the fingerprints and ugly feeling of the screen
YouTube videos are your friend for gauging the difficulty and seeing the process. Helped give me the courage to do it

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Interestingly, the local Samsung-authorized repair sites near me are taking one look at the phone and saying (even before they look at it), "No, we don't fix those. Check one of the other repair sites.... ." They say they'd need to replace the entire screen, rather than peel/apply a new protector. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with such an involved process being done by "just anybody." This phone is just so intricate it's hard to imagine a local repair store having the experience needed to "cut open the glued bits, avoid cutting the cables, replacing the screen, and gluing everything back together so it's secure and waterproof."
If Samsung has to fix it themselves then if the phone fails again they have no one but themselves to blame.
Does anyone here have experience with Samsung replacing their phone screen?
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That should tell you something.
Getting it right on the first or even second shot may prove challenging. Wet apply hydrocell's are relatively easy, one sided adhesive ones like the stock ones are a true pain.

Anyone who has removed the stock protector can tell you the flaw that causes it. They are using a rigid protector with a weak adhesive.
The folding aspect has allowed Samsung to make the process sound much more complex, but it's installing a protector like any other phone. The only difference is taking more care to smooth it into the crease. Let it sit open for a day and try to take it light for the next few. Almost any third-party protector that is decent as a screen protector will work.
The stock protector is poorly designed, but it's not some magical specialty item. It is a slightly nicer version of the film Samsung wraps all their phones with so they look new out of the box.

Screen is fine, right?
Just like peeling off a bandaid IMO. ;-)

I have decided to send the phone back to Samsung for the replacement of the screen protector. They did not require a phone factory reset for this work. I'll report the quality of the repair work when the phone is returned. I'm hoping it will look "factory fresh". But I've also ordered an aftermarket protector in case I need to fix the fix.

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They did not require a phone factory reset for this work.
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They may not have required you to do one, but I hope you did a backup. It doesn't always mean they won't end up doing one, planned or not.

Does anyone have a source to buy a new screen protector that isn't too rigid or thick? There are tons of options online but I'm not finding an OEM option to buy. But it sounds like some of you may have found a better option anyway. Any links would be appreciated!

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Does anyone have a source to buy a new screen protector that isn't too rigid or thick? There are tons of options online but I'm not finding an OEM option to buy. But it sounds like some of you may have found a better option anyway. Any links would be appreciated!
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I've used Skinomi since my Pixel 2 XL days. The wet application process makes sense and the self repair screen makes it always look new. It's what I'm currently using on the Zflip

When I had mine before I got rid of it, I replaced the screen protector with a liquid one. Worked very well up until the actual screen started cracking on the crease. Keep in mind no drops and everyday use. For the 3rd generation it's definitely sad to see

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When I had mine before I got rid of it, I replaced the screen protector with a liquid one. Worked very well up until the actual screen started cracking on the crease. Keep in mind no drops and everyday use. For the 3rd generation it's definitely sad to see
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The radius of curve is too extreme.

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... but it's installing a protector like any other phone. The only difference is taking more care to smooth it into the crease. Let it sit open for a day and try to take it light for the next few...
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Thank you so much for this helpful hint. I previously purchased a Whitestone Dome screen protector with install jig. It went on perfectly, but when I folded the phone 30 minutes later it delaminated in the crease. I threw that $20 piece in the trash. Nowhere in the instructions or installation video did it say to wait a full day. Based on your input I installed the same kit again, waited a day before carefully folding the phone and, bam, works like a champ!

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Thank you so much for this helpful hint. I previously purchased a Whitestone Dome screen protector with install jig. It went on perfectly, but when I folded the phone 30 minutes later it delaminated in the crease. I threw that $20 piece in the trash. Nowhere in the instructions or installation video did it say to wait a full day. Based on your input I installed the same kit again, waited a day before carefully folding the phone and, bam, works like a champ!
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UV cured adhesive once fully cured is at its full strength. No additional time is needed.
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Failure: incomplete cleaning; contaminated bonding surfaces, incorrect application (a thinner layer is better), or incomplete curing.

I used this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LV43G8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not the Seesaw UV curing machine whatever thingy. But my second attempt worked fine. Thanks for your feedback.

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I used this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LV43G8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not the Seesaw UV curing machine whatever thingy. But my second attempt worked fine. Thanks for your feedback.
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Yeah I have never had an easy time with either of those types of adhesive systems*. Hydrocell wet apply works best on non-folding screens for me but may not be ideal for a foldable.
*Whitestone sent the wrong screen in the right box so I never did install it. They were a complete offshore nightmare to deal with. The "new" one I received had been incorrectly reboxed. They caused me quit a bit of trouble... and never even apologized for the inconvenience. So free advertising for them.

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I used this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LV43G8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not the Seesaw UV curing machine whatever thingy. But my second attempt worked fine. Thanks for your feedback.
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Glad to hear it worked out in the end. There is somewhat of a curing period with any adhesive, but rigid protectors will still separate over time. Given how flimsy those are, it will be a lot longer than the stock one anyway.
If you use a UV one, longer is not always better. The catch to UV activated adhesive is the same as UV resin. It is on a parabola where it will hit peak adhesion and then actually begin to break down. It's best to follow the exact times provided and then let it get some sunlight to finish off curing.
P.S. Whatever you do, do NOT use a liquid adhesive protector on this phone. It's not an S series or Note where the panel is flush with the case. It's an aluminum body wrapped OVER the screen. While they do claim it's water resistant, getting adhesive under that edge can eventually lead to pressure on the edges that will damage the screen and cause it to fracture.