Going from iPhone to Android - General Questions and Answers

Hello,
I have att. I have the XSMax. I want to go back to Android after about a year of hell (by the time my 12 month lease is up). I would like to be able to JailBreak and flash custom roms if possible. Here are my options..can these be jailbroken and custom roms used? All my phones are leases through ATT on a 12 month basis (I get bored plus I destroy the batteries).
Thank you.
Note 9
s10 E.
A10E
Thank you.

wwe9112 said:
Hello,
I have att. I have the XSMax. I want to go back to Android after about a year of hell (by the time my 12 month lease is up). I would like to be able to JailBreak and flash custom roms if possible. Here are my options..can these be jailbroken and custom roms used? All my phones are leases through ATT on a 12 month basis (I get bored plus I destroy the batteries).
Thank you.
Note 9
s10 E.
A10E
Thank you.
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When dealing with android, it''s not called jailbreaking, it's called rooting. Jailbreak iOS only.
Also, jailbreaking iOS and rooting android is not even close to the same thing, not that the specific matters, I'm just clarifying. Plus, it will help reduce confusion when discussing topics of android with experienced android users.
Whether or not the devices you listed can be rooted or not and whether or not custom recovery and custom ROMs can be used, will depend on exactly which specific model numbers you have.
To find this with each device, try these search suggestions(do these for each individual device).
"How to root (the specific device model number)"
And
"TWRP for (the specific device model number)"
"Custom ROMs for (the specific device model number)"
If anything exists for the devices you have, those searches should find them, if not, then there may not be anything for your devices.
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I knew it was calling rooting. Not sure why I said JailBreaking. I use to root my s3. I think it has become a habit after a little over a year of saying Jailbreaking. My apologies.
Droidriven said:
When dealing with android, it''s not called jailbreaking, it's called rooting. Jailbreak iOS only.
Also, jailbreaking iOS and rooting android is not even close to the same thing, not that the specific matters, I'm just clarifying. Plus, it will help reduce confusion when discussing topics of android with experienced android users.
Whether or not the devices you listed can be rooted or not and whether or not custom recovery and custom ROMs can be used, will depend on exactly which specific model numbers you have.
To find this with each device, try these search suggestions(do these for each individual device).
"How to root (the specific device model number)"
And
"TWRP for (the specific device model number)"
"Custom ROMs for (the specific device model number)"
If anything exists for the devices you have, those searches should find them, if not, then there may not be anything for your devices.
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Does Developer support exist for Huawei Phones? In particular the Mate 7.

I know the phone is barely released, but what is the likelihood of seeing a root tool and a base AOSP Android L rom when it releases? In general do Huawei phones even see developer support on XDA or any other forums?
I really want the Mate 7, but only if i'll be able to get vanilla Android L running on it in the near future. I searched the Huawei forums and it doesn't look very promising. I was wondering since this is a pretty big departure from what Huawei usually releases, if it changes anything.
I am very tempted to get this device too, but only if it can be tinkered with.
I would love to get this running stock android L
bboylito said:
I know the phone is barely released, but what is the likelihood of seeing a root tool and a base AOSP Android L rom when it releases? In general do Huawei phones even see developer support on XDA or any other forums?
I really want the Mate 7, but only if i'll be able to get vanilla Android L running on it in the near future. I searched the Huawei forums and it doesn't look very promising. I was wondering since this is a pretty big departure from what Huawei usually releases, if it changes anything.
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Usually when there is very little developer interest in a device we have end up getting a bounty going. I started a bounty for root for the Galaxy Mega last year and it ended up working.
Techngro said:
Usually when there is very little developer interest in a device we have end up getting a bounty going. I started a bounty for root for the Galaxy Mega last year and it ended up working.
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Root and recovery is out.
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1pJ2qx3l password is fuwq
To prep phone : http://cn.club.vmall.com/thread-1241100-1-1.html do this. Google translate the page.
viola root. Caveat is only from a PC... no mac support. Cannot personally verify, but reading comments translated in multiple threads seems successful. Will have to manually save and update phone to upgrade as updates come out via this method. Wish it were a simple as other chinese roms, like miui or flyme.
gn0s1s said:
Root and recovery is out.
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1pJ2qx3l password is fuwq
To prep phone : http://cn.club.vmall.com/thread-1241100-1-1.html do this. Google translate the page.
viola root. Caveat is only from a PC... no mac support. Cannot personally verify, but reading comments translated in multiple threads seems successful. Will have to manually save and update phone to upgrade as updates come out via this method. Wish it were a simple as other chinese roms, like miui or flyme.
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So does this mean you can have stock android? Sorry Im new to android. Looking at making this my first device.
10pmStalker said:
So does this mean you can have stock android? Sorry Im new to android. Looking at making this my first device.
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Yes, technically that means you can install various ROMs or recoveries on your device, but you'll have to wait until someone actually makes some for the device. Judging by the other Huawei devices on XDA, there doesn't seem like there will be very much development for this device either. That's why I suggested a bounty. I've had Android phones where there was not much development (T-Mobile Galaxy Note, Moto Cliq). It sucked watching other devices get all the attention. Now the AM7 may be just popular enough to get some attention from devs, but ultimately, I am preparing myself for the possibility that development for the AM7 will be very slow, just so I won't be dissapointed.
But I may be wrong.
How do bounty's work? Paypal? How do you know if the Dev is even qualified or going to complete the work once the bounty is paid? I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks.
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How do bounty's work? Paypal? How do you know if the Dev is even qualified or going to complete the work once the bounty is paid? I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks.
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The person who creates the bounty sets the goal (root, recovery, ROM, AOSP, etc.) that will satisfy the bounty. People pledge an amount of their choosing. Once the goal is completed and verified (by making it available to test), then the money is collected via Paypal and given to the first person to reach the goal.
Here's a good example of what a bounty thread looks like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728051
(Don't expect our bounty to get that expensive lol.)
Hopefully if root works and we can get the device tree sorted then its all good. Be interesting to see if kernel sources will be released

Is there a root option for the ZTE Warp 7

if there is, is it similar to the zte elite?
loax555 said:
if there is, is it similar to the zte elite?
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Do a google search for:
"How to root (your model number)"
If that doesn't find anything then there isn't a known rooting method for your device.
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We've been able to aquire temp with previous versions of kingroot and iroot but the device just reboots a couple minutes afterwards and looses root. Unable to access bootloader through ADB as well. Cant seem to get much to work... ADB oem unlock doesn't work either and if you try ADB reboot bootloader it just does a normal restart.
mycosmicmind said:
We've been able to aquire temp with previous versions of kingroot and iroot but the device just reboots a couple minutes afterwards and looses root. Unable to access bootloader through ADB as well. Cant seem to get much to work... ADB oem unlock doesn't work either and if you try ADB reboot bootloader it just does a normal restart.
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If it's like other ZTE devices that I've encountered then the reason you can't do anything with adb and bootloader is because fastboot/flash mode was removed from the device by your carrier. That's why I suggest that root users avoid using ZTE's crappy devices. Stop getting cheap android devices thinking that you'll find custom support for it. Most of the time the cheap mid-low end devices don't get custom development and if they do get custom development it isn't much at all. In general, ZTE devices aren't worth messing with.
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Droidriven said:
If it's like other ZTE devices that I've encountered then the reason you can't do anything with adb and bootloader is because fastboot/flash mode was removed from the device by your carrier. That's why I suggest that root users avoid using ZTE's crappy devices. Stop getting cheap android devices thinking that you'll find custom support for it. Most of the time the cheap mid-low end devices don't get custom development and if they do get custom development it isn't much at all. In general, ZTE devices aren't worth messing with.
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I didnt think i'd encounter that with boost mobile honestly
mycosmicmind said:
I didnt think i'd encounter that with boost mobile honestly
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Even if they didn't remove it, there'd probably still wouldn't be any development for it, it's just not the kind of device that developers are interested in. You'd probably have root and that's it, no TWRP or ROMs.
If that's the kind of thing you're interested in, then you need to get a more popularly used brand and model of device. It doesn't have to be a flagship device but pretty close, there are plenty of reasonably priced devices that have plenty of development, just gotta research a device before you get it to see what is available for it before you get it, or get a device that is certainly going to be of interest to developers.
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The elite get temp root with the PC kingo root method
Rooting Apps
loax555 said:
if there is, is it similar to the zte elite?
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Try using apps to root your phone. If it fails , move on to other methods. But, U'll achieve success by the apps if u r lucky.some apps to try are:
Kingo root
Kingroot
Framaroot
Try these apps.
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Droidriven said:
Even if they didn't remove it, there'd probably still wouldn't be any development for it, it's just not the kind of device that developers are interested in. You'd probably have root and that's it, no TWRP or ROMs.
If that's the kind of thing you're interested in, then you need to get a more popularly used brand and model of device. It doesn't have to be a flagship device but pretty close, there are plenty of reasonably priced devices that have plenty of development, just gotta research a device before you get it to see what is available for it before you get it, or get a device that is certainly going to be of interest to developers.
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u must be smokin cuz my zte z970 had tons of support including blisspop twrp and lots of other stuff
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currently im downloading android 6.0.1 for my zte zmax and it started out factory with android 4.4.2
juggalo19076 said:
u must be smokin cuz my zte z970 had tons of support including blisspop twrp and lots of other stuff
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I've had low end devices that "just happened" to have development of all kinds also. This does not mean that all of that development was done by "real" developers, most ROMS are ports or modifications of work that the "real" developers do. Most are created by members that own the device and know or learn just enough to squeeze out a port, fork or kang of someone else's work.
But that isn't the point, the point is that low end devices aren't "typically" chosen by developers, that's an indisputable fact.
If you'll take a look around, you'll see that there are considerably more higher end brands and models supported than the low-mid range devices. Usually, the low end devices that do get development are devices that someone owned and couldn't find any ROMS for so they took it on themselves to learn just so they could update their device, these are not what I'm calling "real" developers, the real developers are the ones that did the work that provided the pieces used by those learning.
Those that provide support from start to finish in every aspect of the coding involved are the developers I'm talking about, without them, no device gets support. They are not very likely to choose these types of devices.
I've spent enough time in the noob threads helping members with these kinds of devices, in the grand scheme, they usually don't have any options. A lot of them get frustrated with not finding development for their exact model and flash something from a similar device "hoping" it will work. It usually doesn't and it's guys like me that have to help them straighten out their mess, trust me, what I say about low-mid devices is very valid, the thousands I've been involved in helping find what they need is more than enough proof.
And I said "in general" ZTE isn't worth it. Just because you mention one ZTE model that had support doesn't take away from that statement. I can't count how many ZTE devices I've seen bricked because the device wasn't supported and the users still tried flashing it.
I can't say the same for Samsung, Nexus, HTC or One Plus, just to name a few. Get the picture?
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Droidriven said:
I've had low end devices that "just happened" to have development of all kinds also. This does not mean that all of that development was done by "real" developers, most ROMS are ports or modifications of work that the "real" developers do. Most are created by members that own the device and know or learn just enough to squeeze out a port, fork or kang of someone else's work.
But that isn't the point, the point is that low end devices aren't "typically" chosen by developers, that's an indisputable fact.
If you'll take a look around, you'll see that there are considerably more higher end brands and models supported than the low-mid range devices. Usually, the low end devices that do get development are devices that someone owned and couldn't find any ROMS for so they took it on themselves to learn just so they could update their device, these are not what I'm calling "real" developers, the real developers are the ones that did the work that provided the pieces used by those learning.
Those that provide support from start to finish in every aspect of the coding involved are the developers I'm talking about, without them, no device gets support. They are not very likely to choose these types of devices.
I've spent enough time in the noob threads helping members with these kinds of devices, in the grand scheme, they usually don't have any options. A lot of them get frustrated with not finding development for their exact model and flash something from a similar device "hoping" it will work. It usually doesn't and it's guys like me that have to help them straighten out their mess, trust me, what I say about low-mid devices is very valid, the thousands I've been involved in helping find what they need is more than enough proof.
And I said "in general" ZTE isn't worth it. Just because you mention one ZTE model that had support doesn't take away from that statement. I can't count how many ZTE devices I've seen bricked because the device wasn't supported and the users still tried flashing it.
I can't say the same for Samsung, Nexus, HTC or One Plus, just to name a few. Get the picture?
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Not really I know of plenty of ZTE models that get plenty of support and I know of plenty of Samsung devices that brick due to the issues that you just stated Same with Sony etc but since you are so smart why don't u try to figure out how to root the ZTE 9519 then I will believe all this that you say about how you are so smart when it comes to all this until then I think your just spouting bs
juggalo19076 said:
Not really I know of plenty of ZTE models that get plenty of support and I know of plenty of Samsung devices that brick due to the issues that you just stated Same with Sony etc but since you are so smart why don't u try to figure out how to root the ZTE 9519 then I will believe all this that you say about how you are so smart when it comes to all this until then I think your just spouting bs
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Flagship devices get the lions share of development, yes, SOME of the low-mid devices get support, I never said they didn't get support at all across the board. I said that "most"(as in 75-80%) of them don't(leaving only 20-25% of the low end getting support), including the low end Samsung and others. But when you look at the higher end and flagships, it's more like 90-95% of them do get support, leaving only 5-10% of them not getting support. Do you see the gap? Statistically, the odds of getting support are against you with low-mid devices but there the few exceptions, it just depends on exactly which low end device. That's what I meant in my first reply when I said "research the devices before you buy them to see if they have support" or buy higher end flagship devices, the ones that are almost certain to get support. It's just a fact dude. Most serious developers are too hardcore into hardware and software to settle for something on the low-mid range and they pretty much only develop for the devices they own or have on hand, that is why the chances of low-mid devices getting support are "on the whole" not nearly as likely as the more popular devices.
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Root
Root will first require stock rom install.
juggalo19076 said:
Not really I know of plenty of ZTE models that get plenty of support and I know of plenty of Samsung devices that brick due to the issues that you just stated Same with Sony etc but since you are so smart why don't u try to figure out how to root the ZTE 9519 then I will believe all this that you say about how you are so smart when it comes to all this until then I think your just spouting bs
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By the way. Don't you know that if you are going to request that someone figure how to root or develop a device then it usually requires donating one of the devices to whoever you make the request to? You think I'm going to waste my hard earned money buying one of these pieces of crap just to teach you something? No thanks.
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the device is rooted here with kingroot perm warp 7 root method
madvane20 said:
the device is rooted here with kingroot perm warp 7 root method
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Not working
Droidriven said:
By the way. Don't you know that if you are going to request that someone figure how to root or develop a device then it usually requires donating one of the devices to whoever you make the request to? You think I'm going to waste my hard earned money buying one of these pieces of crap just to teach you something? No thanks.
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I dont see u with root so whats that say?
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Droidriven said:
By the way. Don't you know that if you are going to request that someone figure how to root or develop a device then it usually requires donating one of the devices to whoever you make the request to? You think I'm going to waste my hard earned money buying one of these pieces of crap just to teach you something? No thanks.
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Also just so u know i did get perm root for this phone but sold it long time ago
juggalo19076 said:
I dont see u with root so whats that say?
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Also just so u know i did get perm root for this phone but sold it long time ago
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Any body figure out root for you warp 6?
roadkill42 said:
Any body figure out root for you warp 6?
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If u mean warp 7 yes its been done i got root from the same version of kingroot i used for my zte zmax z970 as funny as that is that was over a year ago tho
juggalo19076 said:
I dont see u with root so whats that say?
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Also just so u know i did get perm root for this phone but sold it long time ago
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I was saying that it is considered rude to come here and post a question that basically asks someone else to figure out something "for you" instead of asking someone to "help you" figure it out, or to ask a question suggesting that someone do the work for you.
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What are the best smartphones for root/unlock bootloader and custom roms

Hi all,
I am considering changing my HTC one m9 and I need your advice on the best phones out there that are known for easy root/ unlock bootloader/ custom recovery and active custom rom community.
I am on At&t and I always buy my phones directly from the manufacturer or factory unlocked from amazon or ebay....
please let me know your opinion and if you have a suggestion where to buy from
Thanks
fidzi_1981 said:
Hi all,
I am considering changing my HTC one m9 and I need your advice on the best phones out there that are known for easy root/ unlock bootloader/ custom recovery and active custom rom community.
I am on At&t and I always buy my phones directly from the manufacturer or factory unlocked from amazon or ebay....
please let me know your opinion and if you have a suggestion where to buy from
Thanks
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Pixel devices and OnePlus devices are your best options.
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Droidriven said:
Pixel devices and OnePlus devices are your best options.
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Thanks!! What about HTC 10 and ZTE Axon 7? are they not root-able or their bootloaders are not unlockable?
fidzi_1981 said:
Thanks!! What about HTC 10 and ZTE Axon 7? are they not root-able or their bootloaders are not unlockable?
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HTC would be worth it, never been impressed with ZTE devices though, absolutely none of them regardless of price or the hardware it comes with.
Everyone I know with a ZTE device either had one that didn't come with fastboot and had locked bootloader or they had one that could be unlocked and has a few custom ROMs available but also had trouble if things went wrong because the stock firmware wasn't available for download to fix it. Unreliable manufacturer support is a big deal for me. I like knowing the things to fix it are available, if they aren't, I don't buy the device.
And whether bootloader is locked or not has more to do with your model number or carrier than it does the device itself. In other words, for example, you can have a Verizon S6 with locked bootloader and a T-Mobile S6 that doesn't have locked bootloader.
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Droidriven said:
HTC would be worth it, never been impressed with ZTE devices though, absolutely none of them regardless of price or the hardware it comes with.
Everyone I know with a ZTE device either had one that didn't come with fastboot and had locked bootloader or they had one that could be unlocked and has a few custom ROMs available but also had trouble if things went wrong because the stock firmware wasn't available for download to fix it. Unreliable manufacturer support is a big deal for me. I like knowing the things to fix it are available, if they aren't, I don't buy the device.
And whether bootloader is locked or not has more to do with your model number or carrier than it does the device itself. In other words, for example, you can have a Verizon S6 with locked bootloader and a T-Mobile S6 that doesn't have locked bootloader.
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Thanks for the explanation. You are right about the manufacturer support regarding the ZTE. I could not find much support as the others.
I buy my devices directly from the manufacturer.
Droidriven said:
Pixel devices and OnePlus devices are your best options.
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Flagships shouldnt be considered as the "best" or" mainstream" option. THese things cost like 500+ dollars.
Its like saying the best cars for Tuning are Lamborghinis and Ferraris. Really? And if this is true for android phones, it really shows how fcked up the indsutry is.
The majority of people use Midrangers and budget phones. Budget <= 200 dollars
Midrange <= 400
Flagship > 400
shadowcore said:
Flagships shouldnt be considered as the "best" or" mainstream" option. THese things cost like 500+ dollars.
Its like saying the best cars for Tuning are Lamborghinis and Ferraris. Really? And if this is true for android phones, it really shows how fcked up the indsutry is.
The majority of people use Midrangers and budget phones. Budget <= 200 dollars
Midrange <= 400
Flagship > 400
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The question was:
"What devices are the best option for ROOT/ UNLOCK BOOTLOADER/ROMS?"
The answer is:
Google devices
It might not agree with what you want it to be, but it's still the correct answer because Google devices and flagship devices are usually the FIRST devices to have root and custom development because these are the kinds of devices that developers own and these developers are the majority of the people that create the root exploits, custom recoveries and ROMs that everyone else uses, even the root exploits, custom recoveries and ROMs that low-mid range devices get are based off of the work done by the developers that own the flagship devices. These developers don't own or use low-mid devices, that's why there isn't much available for these limited devices, because no real developers own them, the low-mid devices that do get custom development are only because someone used another developers work from another device to customize that device.
Best option for root and custom development has nothing at all to do with the price of the device and everything to do with the device itself.

Skyuniverse Devices Rooting Assistance Requested

I have a Skyuniverse Elite A5 that i want to root. I've reached out to manufacturer several times with no luck on instructions to unlock boot-loader. its running android 9 (go edition) currently. Id like to root with magisk so i would need the stock boot.img however there is very, very minimal information on this device. where to begin on a device that has this many speed bumps? i need instructions on how to unlock my boot loader, clone my stock firmware to acquire necessary files, and rooting a ARM Cortex-A53 device with build ID: Elite_A5_1700_V1.0_202000618 Kernel Version 4.4.147 (24414) kernel architecture armv71. Thanks in advance
nonamemaddox5446 said:
I have a Skyuniverse Elite A5 that i want to root. I've reached out to manufacturer several times with no luck on instructions to unlock boot-loader. its running android 9 (go edition) currently. Id like to root with magisk so i would need the stock boot.img however there is very, very minimal information on this device. where to begin on a device that has this many speed bumps? i need instructions on how to unlock my boot loader, clone my stock firmware to acquire necessary files, and rooting a ARM Cortex-A53 device with build ID: Elite_A5_1700_V1.0_202000618 Kernel Version 4.4.147 (24414) kernel architecture armv71. Thanks in advance
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You have to get the bootloader unlocked first, there is nothing you can do until that happens. There is no "other way".
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Droidriven said:
You have to get the bootloader unlocked first, there is nothing you can do until that happens. There is no "other way".
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What would you recomend I try if manufacturer, carrier, and OS proprietary owner's all are not willing to provide any assistance? I've tried every fastboot command I could find, not even a specific code is given like some devices and even if I did acquire some special code there is no avenue to request unlocking from anyone. I'm finding it hard to believe that they are legally allowed to control how i use my device that i paid for. I can't stand not being in control of my phone. i feel like im being left in the dark about all the processes that are running because i literally am. i cant even view logs of anything. just what is running; not what exactly they are doing. this isnt right
nonamemaddox5446 said:
What would you recomend I try if manufacturer, carrier, and OS proprietary owner's all are not willing to provide any assistance? I've tried every fastboot command I could find, not even a specific code is given like some devices and even if I did acquire some special code there is no avenue to request unlocking from anyone. I'm finding it hard to believe that they are legally allowed to control how i use my device that i paid for. I can't stand not being in control of my phone. i feel like im being left in the dark about all the processes that are running because i literally am. i cant even view logs of anything. just what is running; not what exactly they are doing. this isnt right
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You have no choice but to do what we all do here when we have a device that has no valid bootloader unlock method, that is to just accept the fact that you are not going to unlock the bootloader without an unlock code from the manufacturer/carrier or paying for a bootloader unlock service from a shop/website that is not guaranteed to successfully unlock the bootloader.
The manufacturer and the carrier don't "have" to provide us with bootloader unlock information if they don't want to.
As a matter of fact, not giving us the bootloader unlock information actually protects their interests as far as network security and their warranty on the device is concerned.
Manufacturers lose a lot of money repairing/replacing devices that have been hardbricked due to user error/ignorance during the user's attempt to unlock and modify the device. When I device has been hardbricked, the manufacturer has no way to know that the device has been modified and that the warranty is now no longer valid due to the device being modified. Therefore, they end up paying to repair/replace devices that have technically had their warranty voided by the users modifications.
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Well I completely understand where you're coming from and also understand that that is the normal methods that most users must abide by however I will do everything in my power to ensure that I can do what I want with my device. Of course manufacturers and cell phone carriers do not want users to unlock the bootloader and acquire root privileges. They hide behind the facade that they are limiting a devices use to prevent improper user operations in which could malfunction the device. That's the official statement, however if one were to acquire root privileges one would be able to view and stop all the data acquisition processes that are running in the background and everyone's device currently without their knowledge or permission. Every single application has a main objective and a more important secondary function, "capture any information that they can sell". I'm beginning the process of litigation in this matter. Manufacturer's, cell phone carrier's, and all of Google's various Android Operations cannot provide any legal documentation regarding terms and conditions and policies on rooting or installing custom operating systems. Now is the time to force them to update their policies while they do not have any currently implemented. They are no rules written about this matter they are just going with the flow essentially, mostly because nobody is aware of this. It's time you and everyone else take ownership of their devices and prevent others from profiting without your knowledge, permission, and stipulations if you choose to share your information. It's important to remember that it is okay to share information as long as you are compensated for it and are aware of its intentions. Imagine buying a pair of shoes and when you begin lacing them how you wish you are somehow unable to do so. The holes are there, the strings are in your hands, but the manufacturer doesn't want you to lace them up how you wish because if you did they wouldn't be able to make any more money off of the shoes. They have already sold the shoes, they are not in possession of them anymore; you are, however they are still trying to tell you what to do with your shoes. If you can't graspe the audacity of all this I suggest you begin researching. I used you as a framing device to convey my message so if you are offended by any of my statements please know that I was also referring to the general public as well as you. Nothing I said was intended to hurt or bother you.

Looking for upgrading an old government tablet

Hi all, im new to the forum, first of all let me clarify that im a complete noob when it comes to anything software relate on mobile devices other that hard resetting a phone/tablet.
So, the thing is that i found an old tablet belonging to my younger brother, he got it by a governent plan that years ago provided highschool students with free tablets made for learning and stuff.
I had it flashed by the repair service so i can use it but turns out it has this weird android 7.0 version that comes with some preinstalled apps from the government.
Being so old and working with and equally old version thats also custom made for this devices makes it super clunky and slow to use, more so for drawing and sketching wich is my ultimate goal with it.
I was wondering if i could use some guidance or advice to see first if the actual SO can be replaced, and two, how to do it and wich ROM could give me a more modern/usable experience.
Thanks in advance, ill make sure to provide any info needed
faqbui3 said:
Hi all, im new to the forum, first of all let me clarify that im a complete noob when it comes to anything software relate on mobile devices other that hard resetting a phone/tablet.
So, the thing is that i found an old tablet belonging to my younger brother, he got it by a governent plan that years ago provided highschool students with free tablets made for learning and stuff.
I had it flashed by the repair service so i can use it but turns out it has this weird android 7.0 version that comes with some preinstalled apps from the government.
Being so old and working with and equally old version thats also custom made for this devices makes it super clunky and slow to use, more so for drawing and sketching wich is my ultimate goal with it.
I was wondering if i could use some guidance or advice to see first if the actual SO can be replaced, and two, how to do it and wich ROM could give me a more modern/usable experience.
Thanks in advance, ill make sure to provide any info needed
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If anything exists for the device, you can find it by doing a search for:
"Custom ROMs for (your specific device model number)"
You can find the device model number by going to system settings>about>model number or system settings>about>hardware info>model number. If the search using the specific model number doesn't reveal anything for your specific device, it almost certainly means there is nothing for that device.
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If anything exists for the device, you can find it by doing a search for:
"Custom ROMs for (your specific device model number)"
You can re tree 1uj the device model number by going to system settings>about>model number or system settings>about>hardware info>model number. If the search using the specific model number doesn't reveal anything for your specific device, it almost certainly means there is nothing for that device.
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Thanks for the reply, soo what i understand is that unless there is a ROM somewhere on the internet specifically made for my device i wont be able to do anything to upgrade the SO?
TBH ive been looking for that before, checked the model number but it just says A102, seems like theyre custom made devices or a rework of an existing one to mass produce it and make it more fitting for teenagers.
So far all the info i could get was the manufacturer, wich name is Haier, then some weird documentation hinting the real name of the model was Haier Business A102 but idk, and here are the specs from the model too.
faqbui3 said:
Thanks for the reply, soo what i understand is that unless there is a ROM somewhere on the internet specifically made for my device i wont be able to do anything to upgrade the SO?
TBH ive been looking for that before, checked the model number but it just says A102, seems like theyre custom made devices or a rework of an existing one to mass produce it and make it more fitting for teenagers.
So far all the info i could get was the manufacturer, wich name is Haier, then some weird documentation hinting the real name of the model was Haier Business A102 but idk, and here are the specs from the model too.
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Yes, typically, you can only install an OS that is built for your specific device. There is also the possibility of installing a GSI(generic system image) that has been made for devices with the same hardware/CPU architecture. If there is a GSI available for devices with your architecture, you may be able to install it. I'm not familiar with the specifics of finding a compatible GSI for a device or how to install it as I've never used one. This would be a good place to start.

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