Pixel 3 Battery Life? - Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers

Hello,
How is the battery life on Pixel 3 (non XL)? Does it last a whole day with normal usage? What is the average Screen On Time?
Getting a P3 for 500$ from Google Store but have serious reservations about battery life after reading reviews? Is it worth getting?

I just got mine 2 months ago. I have about 300 apps installed. Most have been opened and therefore running stuff in background. I can Easily go all day without a charge. Some evenings I'm only at 50% before bed. I consider myself a medium user (not streaming a lot of video, etc). It was a much better experience than my early Pixel XL. Hope this helps.
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I don't know if you're going to get the answer you're looking for because "normal usage", screen on time, apps installed, types of apps, network coverage, etc all vary widely from person to person. What works great for me might not at all for you.

If I have a normal use day I have about 5 to 6 hours of SoT. I've gotten 7+, it's about what my S10e got,.
However I am a heavy user, constantly rebooting and testing new modules and on Q beta so I can get anywhere from 2 to 4 but that is because I am HARDCORE draining the phone.

SirSparkles said:
I just got mine 2 months ago. I have about 300 apps installed. Most have been opened and therefore running stuff in background. I can Easily go all day without a charge. Some evenings I'm only at 50% before bed. I consider myself a medium user (not streaming a lot of video, etc). It was a much better experience than my early Pixel XL. Hope this helps.
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Thank you. Any idea on the screen on time that you are getting from the phone?

vonDubenshire said:
If I have a normal use day I have about 5 to 6 hours of SoT. I've gotten 7+, it's about what my S10e got,.
However I am a heavy user, constantly rebooting and testing new modules and on Q beta so I can get anywhere from 2 to 4 but that is because I am HARDCORE draining the phone.
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That is pretty good. Is that on the regular 3 or the XL Version?
Thanks.

vonDubenshire said:
If I have a normal use day I have about 5 to 6 hours of SoT. I've gotten 7+, it's about what my S10e got,.
However I am a heavy user, constantly rebooting and testing new modules and on Q beta so I can get anywhere from 2 to 4 but that is because I am HARDCORE draining the phone.
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Shouldn't screen on time be a parameter to gauge that with ?

fury683 said:
I don't know if you're going to get the answer you're looking for because "normal usage", screen on time, apps installed, types of apps, network coverage, etc all vary widely from person to person. What works great for me might not at all for you.
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Shouldn't screen on time be a parameter to gauge that with ?

masterinmischief said:
Thank you. Any idea on the screen on time that you are getting from the phone?
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I'm averaging about 2-4 hours per day of screen time per Digital Wellbeing.
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I'm averaging about 2-4 hours per day of screen time per Digital Wellbeing.
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That is not too great and does not give me much confidence. I have heard battery life on 3A is stellar. I had the Pixel 1XL and Nexus 6Pand after a few months, Battery life went bad on both those phones. Hence, someone apprehensive, considering all the negative I have heard about Pixel 3 battery right off the bat.

masterinmischief said:
That is not too great and does not give me much confidence. I have heard battery life on 3A is stellar. I had the Pixel 1XL and Nexus 6Pand after a few months, Battery life went bad on both those phones. Hence, someone apprehensive, considering all the negative I have heard about Pixel 3 battery right off the bat.
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If the several months down the line degredation theory is accurate for pixels, then the 3a having stellar battery life may also be smoke and mirrors.
I had a 3a and sold it for a 3. Got $100 bb gift card when I bought it, sold it for $350. So I made $50 in that and bought my pixel 3 for $400. I think it's worth it for the extra $50 to have the better processor, water rating and wireless charging.
My battery life has been...ok with my 3. Absolutely nothing to write home about but certainly not the worst I've ever seen. Drain is a bit higher than I like to see, idle and active (1.5 and 13 respective, according to exkm). My screen in time per cycle is between 5-6 hours generally but that is a misleading number for to different setups and signal strength.
I say if you dig the device, get it. If you hate it, hell that's what swappa is for. I have bought and sold so many devices on there because they didn't meet my standards it because something else caught my eye.
I will be keeping this device for awhile. I really like the size and features. I'm sure I could boost battery by nurfing features but I am not interested in doing that. This has been excessively long so... Let us know what you decide. Hope my diatribe helped a little. If not... It was free, so don't complain
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My Pixel 3 barely makes a day on a charge. Meanwhile, I use my old Moto X4 to stream music to my work headset, and it can do that for a whole day and still be at 60-70% battery by the end. I tried that with my Pixel, and I ended up having to use extreme battery saver mode by the end of the day.

My battery has been much better since I turned off mobile network always active in developer settings. Keeps idle drain will below 1% now. I couldn't figure it for the life of me why it was so high. Try it!
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[Q] Nexus 5 battery life

im new to this website and im sort of a noob in modding, but i heard people on xda are pros and can give me an inside opinion. i wanna buy a new phone and its either the lg g2 or nexus 5 for me. im a moderate user still in high school so you could say my phone is off for a good amount of time. i was set for the LG G2 but then after some good research i heard about all the problems with the touchscreen sensitivity becoming whacky and all multiple reports of terrible lag and stutter, i come from samsung and i despise lag the suffering i had with their devices was enough. now the main selling point for the g2 is the battery life, which i also heard can be inconsistent. my question goes out to nexus 5 users, as i need someone with personal experience. i use my phone when i come back from school around 4pm for 1-2 hours then its off until about 11 where i use it for maybe a max of 2.5 mainly facebook, whatsapp, bbm and sort of a lot of youtube. will the battery do me good? and how long will it last? I really need some help. PS. they're almost the same price where i am so i dont want comparisons of "its good enough for 350" i need honest(with screenshots if available) performance opinions. i could really use some help guys please
You're good to go.
Check the battery results thread for specifics but 3 hours SoT is about the minimum you can expect without touching anything.
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15 hrs. off the charger and 3 hrs. screenontime for me, stock/not rooted.
I'm rooted rommed and I usually get throughout the whole day easy with a lot of instagram group me and heavy texting . I'm a college student and I text a lot I get through the day
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i wont have any mods on my phone cause i really dont want to take a risk of ruining my phone, so you think a nexus 5 would do well (1-1.5 days maybe) battery wise? or should i go with the G2?
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... 1-1.5 days maybe?...
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Why?
If you are a heavy user then I would recommend getting the G2 instead, the battery life gap is just day and night in terms of difference. As for the stutters even N5 is not immune to that. For the touch screen issues, I have several friends who have the G2 and NONE of them have the issue/
I'm sorry, but does no one own a charger? It will last you the whole day. That's all that is needed. Put it back on the charger when you go to bed, Take it off the charger when you wake up.
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EarlZ said:
If you are a heavy user then I would recommend getting the G2 instead, the battery life gap is just day and night in terms of difference. As for the stutters even N5 is not immune to that. For the touch screen issues, I have several friends who have the G2 and NONE of them have the issue/
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how do different you think it is? like you have the n5 how much juice you get out of it and are you satisfied? as for the stutter, i heard a lot of stories about deteriorating performance and the ram being taken up more than 1.3/2 out of the 2 gigs available. i really cant stand lag which is my im tempted by the n5. im not really a heavy user maybe moderate-heavy, but i do go out on a lot of days and i have a trip this summer, so i need something that wouldnt fail me midday
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I'm sorry, but does no one own a charger? It will last you the whole day. That's all that is needed. Put it back on the charger when you go to bed, Take it off the charger when you wake up.
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Thank you!!
"I can keep it on for 2 days straight oh wowee!". I don't get why people want it to last forever, simply charge it overnight. Yes, the nexus will probably last a full day depending on how you use it, but even if you can't, whack it on a charger for 30 mins and you're good to go till you can fully charge it before bed. The charging speed is amazing on this thing, so if you're at 5% before the day ends, top it up, and in 10 mins and you'll have 20% ready for the rest of the day.
Battery lasts all day = Good, usable battery.
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I have both G2(stock ROM) and N5, I must say that G2 as an amazing battery but N5 got incredible charging speed!
Ltdrev said:
I have both G2(stock ROM) and N5, I must say that G2 as an amazing battery but N5 got incredible charging speed!
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After all it has a huge 3000 mAh battery!
b98anadani said:
how do different you think it is? like you have the n5 how much juice you get out of it and are you satisfied? as for the stutter, i heard a lot of stories about deteriorating performance and the ram being taken up more than 1.3/2 out of the 2 gigs available. i really cant stand lag which is my im tempted by the n5. im not really a heavy user maybe moderate-heavy, but i do go out on a lot of days and i have a trip this summer, so i need something that wouldnt fail me midday
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Depends on the day but for heavy use its not as good as the G2, both devices have their own set of stuttering events. I dont even know why the N5 has a lot of home screen redraw when there is over 600mb of free RAM.
It can't compete with the G2's huge battery but compared to phones with similar sized batteries it is extremely efficient.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
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thanks a lot forum members, you have been very helpful. i went ahead and got the Nexus 5
b98anadani said:
thanks a lot forum members, you have been very helpful. i went ahead and got the Nexus 5
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Welcome to the club.
vin4yak said:
After all it has a huge 3000 mAh battery!
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It is much more than the 3000mah battery...it also has G ram for the screen which decreases the screen power consumption by almost 30% according to lg even after features such as knock on and also the kernel of G2 must have been optimized to maximise its battery life
That is why it is leads ahead off phones which have same mah battery.
I just moved from a G2 to N5.
When I got my G2 it would last almost 2 days, after a few months it would barely last over 1. I Tried other ROMs modded stock ROMs and just couldn't get the battery back up to where it was. The other day it fell down a flight of stairs and I had to replace it anyway so I got the N5, which so far I like the battery on. I don't expect it to be as good as the G2 originally was, but so far its doing great for me.
varuntis1993 said:
It is much more than the 3000mah battery...it also has G ram for the screen which decreases the screen power consumption by almost 30% according to lg even after features such as knock on and also the kernel of G2 must have been optimized to maximise its battery life
That is why it is leads ahead off phones which have same mah battery.
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Think I heard N5 has the same "G Ram" they just don't advertise it. It also has the same 20% more efficient LTE operation as the G2 and is more efficient than other 2300 and even 2600 mAh phones.
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Considering a pixel

Hi all,
I am thinking about getting a pixel soon as an upgrade/downgrade from the nexus 6p. My battery life on this thing is dreadful, like 2 hours sot at a best case scenario usually resulting in me charging twice a day and that's with light to medium usage or if I don't use it much at all.
Anyway I'm interested to see if the battery life might be better on a pixel but I am a little worried as it's a much smaller battery than I have now. I've had nothing but bad luck really when it comes to android and battery life.
The reason for not waiting for the pixel 2 is pretty much that after recycling this I could get the current pixel for about £250 and that way it won't hurt my bank balance as I'm saving for other stuff.
Anyway would you recommend this phone?
Thanks
Not a downgrade but battery life is great for me anyway. You will miss the front facing speakers tho
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I don't think you're going to see huge gains from the 6P to the Pixel in the battery life department (if both phones are working well). If you are only getting 2 hours SOT on the 6P and charging twice a day then something is wrong - either something is keeping the phone awake or the battery's capacity is shot.
I never had the 6P, but reviews seem to suggest you'd see a similar battery life 6P vs Pixel...
Thanks. I hear alot of 6p owners having battery issues, It was fantastic when it was new! I think it's had it combined with a crap chip means it's just not lasting half a day. I ususally have to put it on charge after 6 hours as its about flat and all I do is check some social media and websites from time to time, the odd phone or text. Anyway I'm looking for something that can handle 3-4 hrs SoT as a average when mostly going around using 4g
Bought mine when carphone warehouse dropped the price to £399 which is a great price for this phone.
Been great, battery is really solid and camera is amazing.
I took my oneplus 5 back and got this.
I cannot recommend the phone enough to be honest. The battery life is amazing. As you've said, you've had bad luck with battery in the past; You may want to keep an eye on what apps you install as that could also be a major contributing factor.

Battery Drain

First of all. I truly hate the battery drain threads, as I never had issues with it before.
I've had all pixels xl, and most of the nexus phones.
With the pixel line, I had never been so happy with battery, specially pixel 2 xl. Battery would last 1.5 to 2 days for me (I am very conservative in usage)
However, with the 3 xl, at the end of the day yesterday, I had 39%> This was a day I did not use the phone except for 10 sms, quick stock checks, 2 emails, no phone calls, 15 minutes of music with bt headphones in the metro.
Last night, I put it in safe mode, charged it. TODAY, I took away from the charger at 6am, checked emails, back in the pocket. At 8 am, I had 90%.
Removed from safe mode at 8 am. Checked some messages, spoke for 10 minutes over the phone, checked emails and stocks. It is now 9:20am and my battery is at 80%
Not good. I am really disappointed.
Could I have a defective unit? Am I spoiled with my excellent pixel 2 xl? I did see one youtuber complaining about his battery.
I am afraid mine is defective. If not, I want to go back to the pixel 2 xl.
If you have yours, and had a pixel 2 xl, please let me know how you feel about it please!
Thanks
UPDATE 12/17/18: Nothing really changed much. Pixel 3 XL is horrible with the battery when compared to Pixel 2 XL. What a disappointment in this phone, all over the place. Battery, Buggy, Notch, Audio Recording, Video Recording, Face Unlock, Gestures, etc. What a waste of hard earned money. Of all Pixels and Nexus, this is together with the Nexus 6, the most I have been disappointed.
I truly love these phones, what they represent and all, but after years with the 'google phones', it might be time to try something else.... seriously.... with this phone, the fact that I still did not receive a $50 credit from google, and all these $300 discounts, with free pixel wireless charger and pixel earphones, after 2 months from launch, it makes me extremely disappointed of being an early adopter. Next year I am definitely waiting until January, after reading all reviews and trying it out first before I buy, or just getting a different brand phone.
I am very disappointed this time around.
Hmm I haven't noticed that yet on mine. So far the standby drain has been pretty solid. I haven't had a lot of time to test it obviously, but so far it isn't standing out as an issue for me yet.
largeselection said:
Hmm I haven't noticed that yet on mine. So far the standby drain has been pretty solid. I haven't had a lot of time to test it obviously, but so far it isn't standing out as an issue for me yet.
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Hopefully I will have more responses like yours. If I do I will just exchange the phone with a new one. My unit is really draining fast. From my original post to now, with standby and NO USE of the phone, I am down 2% to 78% (I am using a desktop with the forum).
Thank you.
karikian said:
Hopefully I will have more responses like yours. If I do I will just exchange the phone with a new one. My unit is really draining fast. From my original post to now, with standby and NO USE of the phone, I am down 2% to 78% (I am using a desktop with the forum).
Thank you.
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Before you exchange it, you might try conditioning the battery. Use it until it dies, fully charge it, use it again until it dies, and then one more cycle. If you .are still observing issues after that, then definitely return it.
I only suggest this as conditioning the battery is likely easier than an RMA.
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Before you exchange it, you might try conditioning the battery. Use it until it dies, fully charge it, use it again until it dies, and then one more cycle. If you .are still observing issues after that, then definitely return it.
I only suggest this as conditioning the battery is likely easier than an RMA.
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I just spoke to customer service. They told me to factory reset and try again. When I mentioned that it got ward when setting up the phone, they even offered a device replacement, but I told them I am willing to try the factory re-set. I will try this and then your suggestion, kill 2 birds with the same shot.
I am so disappointed, really am... but alright, let's try this again!!!
karikian said:
I just spoke to customer service. They told me to factory reset and try again. When I mentioned that it got ward when setting up the phone, they even offered a device replacement, but I told them I am willing to try the factory re-set. I will try this and then your suggestion, kill 2 birds with the same shot.
I am so disappointed, really am... but alright, let's try this again!!!
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Sounds defective to me. 2nd day of having it I got 8 hours screen on time and it went 18 hours before needing a charge. Good luck though...I'm honestly super impressed with this phone and want everyone to have the same experience!
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Sounds defective to me. 2nd day of having it I got 8 hours screen on time and it went 18 hours before needing a charge. Good luck though...I'm honestly super impressed with this phone and want everyone to have the same experience!
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Thats what I got on my second charge. I got more on Pixel 2XL in the beginning of course.
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Sounds defective to me. 2nd day of having it I got 8 hours screen on time and it went 18 hours before needing a charge. Good luck though...I'm honestly super impressed with this phone and want everyone to have the same experience!
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When did you turn on the battery saver? From the beginning? At the end?
I did reset to factory, now am waiting for it to fully drain and will try again tomorrow... let's see how it goes...
Thank you!!
karikian said:
When did you turn on the battery saver? From the beginning? At the end?
I did reset to factory, now am waiting for it to fully drain and will try again tomorrow... let's see how it goes...
Thank you!!
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Battery saver automatically came on at 15%. I was actually shocked that I got that much SO time with it. Haven't gotten quite that again but close.
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Battery saver automatically came on at 15%. I was actually shocked that I got that much SO time with it. Haven't gotten quite that again but close.
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Thanks. I did recycle the battery, did the factory reset, etc, still having issues. Google is shipping me a new phone Hopefully that will help.
I did see some videos on youtube of people complaining about the battery life, also notice an article that shows that Pixel 2 XL lasts about 1:20 hours more than the 3 XL. Pretty disappointing...
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Pixel-3-vs-Pixel-3-XL-battery-life_id110162
But still, mine is performing way worse than that. Let's see what the new phone will give me... Thank you!
Restricting Pixel Ambient Service from running in the background helped a little for me and I haven't noticed it interfering with anything yet. Ambient Display seems like it uses more battery on the 3 XL than on my old 2 XL. I didn't even know you could restrict the Pixel Ambient Service but you can. I also don't use Adaptive Battery because it doesn't make a difference in battery for me.
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Restricting Pixel Ambient Service from running in the background helped a little for me and I haven't noticed it interfering with anything yet. Ambient Display seems like it uses more battery on the 3 XL than on my old 2 XL. I didn't even know you could restrict the Pixel Ambient Service but you can. I also don't use Adaptive Battery because it doesn't make a difference in battery for me.
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I will try that.
I had a definitive test today, while I wait for my new phone.
From 9 AM, and fully charged phones, I got the following after 4 hours and 30 minutes:
PIXEL 2 XL: 96%
PIXEL 3 XL: 73%
VERY disappointing... Thumbs down to my new phone...
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I will try that.
I had a definitive test today, while I wait for my new phone.
From 9 AM, and fully charged phones, I got the following after 4 hours and 30 minutes:
PIXEL 2 XL: 96%
PIXEL 3 XL: 73%
VERY disappointing... Thumbs down to my new phone...
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Wow...that's significantly different!!! I've had SOT of 2:55 today and have 35% left? I honestly expected better battery life than my old s7 edge...
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Wow...that's significantly different!!! I've had SOT of 2:55 today and have 35% left? I honestly expected better battery life than my old s7 edge...
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Exactly my point... the new phone should really have better battery life...
If my replacement behaves the same way, I will have to wait with my 2 XL for another year...
karikian said:
I will try that.
I had a definitive test today, while I wait for my new phone.
From 9 AM, and fully charged phones, I got the following after 4 hours and 30 minutes:
PIXEL 2 XL: 96%
PIXEL 3 XL: 73%
VERY disappointing... Thumbs down to my new phone...
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This almost sounds like an Adaptive Battery issue. After a week of playing with this device, it has picked up on my habits and the battery performance started getting better over time.
Im getting 0.8%/hr standby and 10%/hr screen on. Is that OK?
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This almost sounds like an Adaptive Battery issue. After a week of playing with this device, it has picked up on my habits and the battery performance started getting better over time.
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I've had it for 6 days as well
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Im getting 0.8%/hr standby and 10%/hr screen on. Is that OK?
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The great kernel developer known as Flar2 once told me that if your active drain is under 12% and your idle drain is under 1%....your doing good. :good:
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The great kernel developer known as Flar2 once told me that if your active drain is under 12% and your idle drain is under 1%....your doing good. :good:
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Thanks. That's good to know. I really respect flar2.
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The great kernel developer known as Flar2 once told me that if your active drain is under 12% and your idle drain is under 1%....your doing good. :good:
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My active drain is 11.8 and my standby is 1.8. The AOD is definitely using more battery on the 3 XL than it did on the 2 XL. I wish I still had my 2 XL so I could test them side by side.
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Babying the battery

For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
I do this on my devices religiously... And while my wife does not, after 18 months with our previous Pixel 2's... Mine carries a noticeable advantage in battery over hers.
On occasion, I will let it fully charge, but not for very long, and never plugged in overnight.
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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You are not wrong.
I have been on both sides of this fence over the many years I have been running Android phones. Phones that I ran for 3+ years and swollen/poorly performing batteries if they weren't babied have both went the way of the dodo bird so to speak. My wife and I ran the OG Pixel and Pixel XL pretty much from the beginning until the 3s were released. They basically lived on a charger when not in use, and neither had any depreciation in performance. My only real strict battery usage rule for the past close to 3 years (including some other devices that belong to me, my wife and my sons) is to NEVER use the device while it is charging. The batteries are better as are the chargers and OS battery implementation, and the odds of me using a device long beyond 2 years is pretty slim. Some things like using the right charger and not messing with charging settings are pretty obvious to me. I will admit that I have my own OCD device things like daily reboots and cleanup, but as far as the battery goes I agree with fury that the device is to be used. If I am losing my time and device performance trying to milk a better SoT that doesn't really mean $hit, I am using the device wrong.
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For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
terrapin01 said:
I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I think that's a hard correlation to make. Usage changes over time. Your battery might last 24 hours no problem on day one, but then you add in a new app that uses more data, or you start playing a game more that uses more battery and you feel like it doesn't last as long. A lot of people say "no, I use all the same apps" and that might be true for 95% of the apps, but all it takes is one to change the battery life.
As others said, if you intend to keep the phone for 2-3+ years, the battery life may be a concern, but if you're planning to upgrade once a year or every other year, I don't think you will see any noticeable gains from worrying about the battery.
When my battery is low, I charge it. I have a Pixel Stand on my desk at work and it sits there most of the day. When I get home I use the phone and plop it on a Choetech wireless pad at night so it's 100% in the morning. It's also on power (albeit low/slow) with Android Auto in my car during my commute both ways. I also have days where I'm away from battery for hours and lose about 1% per hour (fairly standard with Always on Display). I've been doing more or less this same routine with all three of my Pixel XL devices (OG, 2 and now 3) with no issues. The only change with the 3 is that it has wireless charging which makes charging much more seamless.
Hope you enjoy your new phone, however you decide to use it! :good:
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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The problem with this is alot of manufacturers will stop producing batteries around the same time they stop producing the phones. With my experience I've had a hard time finding batteries that were oem quality, and even if you do, who knows how long that thing has sat on the shelf?
If you're all curious how your battery is degrading over time, download an app called Battery Health. It's a very simple app that tells you what % of the total battery capacity is still available for use. It only took about 2 months for mine to drop into the 90's.

What phones are on your outlook?

Hello all, ,
Getting pretty tired of the 3xl but as i look around i'm not seeing anything really worth it?
Is there something y'all have your eye out for , that still gives us the ability to unlock bootloader flash etc. ?
masri1987 said:
Hello all, ,
Getting pretty tired of the 3xl but as i look around i'm not seeing anything really worth it?
Is there something y'all have your eye out for , that still gives us the ability to unlock bootloader flash etc. ?
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Perhaps the S11+ Exynos version which will allegedly have an amazing camera and unlockable bootloader.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
Eudeferrer said:
Perhaps the S11+ Exynos version which will allegedly have an amazing camera and unlockable bootloader.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
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Having owned exynos samsung devices in the US on t-mo , i can honestly tell you i will never ever eff with samsung again.
The CSC crap alone should be enough to dissuade you.
Until OEMs give the option to run stock Android with updates on the day of release, I'm stuck with Google devices. I don't really care for the pixel hardware or the design to be honest. I just want stock rooted and be able to take OTAs.
masri1987 said:
Hello all, ,
Getting pretty tired of the 3xl but as i look around i'm not seeing anything really worth it?
Is there something y'all have your eye out for , that still gives us the ability to unlock bootloader flash etc. ?
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Isn't Oneplus the logical choice? My understanding is that the hardware is better than the Pixels and it supports unlocking and flashing.
My Pixel 3 XL is very disappointing as well. It drains battery like crazy. My 3 yr old Pixel 2 XL has almost 40% more battery in identical conditions. And then also P3XL has bluetooth connection issues and reloading of apps in background.
Very bored and discouraged with the phone and can't do much since I spend close to $900 on it.
Thinking of Oneplus as the next device and getting away from Pixels. Do you have any other advice?
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Isn't Oneplus the logical choice? My understanding is that the hardware is better than the Pixels and it supports unlocking and flashing.
My Pixel 3 XL is very disappointing as well. It drains battery like crazy. My 3 yr old Pixel 2 XL has almost 40% more battery in identical conditions. And then also P3XL has bluetooth connection issues and reloading of apps in background.
Very bored and discouraged with the phone and can't do much since I spend close to $900 on it.
Thinking of Oneplus as the next device and getting away from Pixels. Do you have any other advice?
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I have a pixel 2 that i have as a backup, but of course OP is the logical choice, problem is, i'd much rather spend my money on a 7t pro than a 7t :\
masri1987 said:
I have a pixel 2 that i have as a backup, but of course OP is the logical choice, problem is, i'd much rather spend my money on a 7t pro than a 7t :\
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Yes. I agree. But the 7tPro is not available in the US. Also do you know whether OnePlus update Android regularly? One good thing about Pixels is the monthly security patch, and I don't know if OP phones get that.
How is your battery life on the P3XL? Mine is completely garbage. To the point, I have to carry 2 phones around always (Pixel 2 as the backup). IF I'm out, the battery on P3XL drains in real time. I barely even get half a day of light usage.
I've tried EVERY trick in the book: Multiple factory resets, debugging apps, rooting, custom kernels. NOTHING has helped. A P2XL in identical conditions - doesn't drain any battery at all. As I type this, since morning my P3XL has gone down to 51% in 3 hours where as P2XL is still at 83%. Both phones have the same exact apps and same version of Android.
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Yes. I agree. But the 7tPro is not available in the US. Also do you know whether OnePlus update Android regularly? One good thing about Pixels is the monthly security patch, and I don't know if OP phones get that.
How is your battery life on the P3XL? Mine is completely garbage. To the point, I have to carry 2 phones around always (Pixel 2 as the backup). IF I'm out, the battery on P3XL drains in real time. I barely even get half a day of light usage.
I've tried EVERY trick in the book: Multiple factory resets, debugging apps, rooting, custom kernels. NOTHING has helped. A P2XL in identical conditions - doesn't drain any battery at all. As I type this, since morning my P3XL has gone down to 51% in 3 hours where as P2XL is still at 83%. Both phones have the same exact apps and same version of Android.
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I jus order me a One Plus 7 Pro it was 50 cheaper than the 7t but a way better looking screen then 8 pro gonna have a camera hole on screen but identical to 8 pro. One plus jus releaseed Android 10 beta in oct or Nov so their right behind Google but for half the price 577 with a case screen protector preinstalled 8gb ram 256 storage 90hz fresh rate like the pixel 4 4000mah battery 30 min charge time. Sounds way better to me. Also you should try
Despair Kernel it helped my P3XL in battery life. Also if you root theres magisk module GMS dose will help with the standby drain with Kernel and that module makes it gold .
billyt1 said:
I jus order me a One Plus 7 Pro it was 50 cheaper than the 7t but a way better looking screen then 8 pro gonna have a camera hole on screen but identical to 8 pro. One plus jus releaseed Android 10 beta in oct or Nov so their right behind Google but for half the price 577 with a case screen protector preinstalled 8gb ram 256 storage 90hz fresh rate like the pixel 4 4000mah battery 30 min charge time. Sounds way better to me. Also you should try
Despair Kernel it helped my P3XL in battery life. Also if you root theres magisk module GMS dose will help with the standby drain with Kernel and that module makes it gold .
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Thanks. Appreciate the review.
Once you have the Oneplus 7 Pro, I would be very interested to know the comparison with Pixel 3 XL specifically on the screen, sound, performance, battery life etc. I do NOT care about the Camera.

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