Deleveloper edition o prototype? - HTC U12+ Questions & Answers

That such friends, sorry I wanted to see if you can help me what happens is that they sold me a htc u12 plus quite accessible, but I noticed that the fingerprint reader is not gray like the conventional color if it is rather green, and in infromacion I use the legend that this device is test and is owned by HTC, however the cell phone works perfectly and the volume and lock buttons are different from the conventional ones, they sold it to me as a developer edition, but I want to ask you If you believe that this is possible or is only a prototype.
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zack leira said:
That such friends, sorry I wanted to see if you can help me what happens is that they sold me a htc u12 plus quite accessible, but I noticed that the fingerprint reader is not gray like the conventional color if it is rather green, and in infromacion I use the legend that this device is test and is owned by HTC, however the cell phone works perfectly and the volume and lock buttons are different from the conventional ones, they sold it to me as a developer edition, but I want to ask you If you believe that this is possible or is only a prototype.
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Hi!
I have one like that. Fingerprint is rare green, the back is plastic, have a serial next the front cameras, the buttons are flats and security state is S-OFF.
But... I have a hardware problem. My hardware version is 3. Edge sense sometimes it's very sensitive and I have ghost touches. If I'm watching a video or listening music and pressing the back or the frame this provoke a low sound or up volume to maximum :crying:.
That's my only problem but it's very annoying. It's a great great smartphone.
I buy it for $250dlls. Maybe I will have to return it because it's very annoying the hardware issue.
Maybe you'll have a better luck:fingers-crossed:

Yup, it is internal pre-production sample. I have one at home too. There are no buttons, only something like holes. Color of back is something like dry rose and fingerprint scanner is green. You should have also S-off and superCID. I don't know where you buy it but phone is far away from the final version. (I have both).

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[Q] UK owners Attention

do you have any of these problems?
Q1:Bottom removable cover doesnt fit right- leaves a gap, makes noise when pressed.
Q2:Large >1mm gap between the glass of the screen and metal. Not like in reviews, official photos.
what about the phone getting uncomfortably hot?
im trying to isolate the problem, which batch, which countries
soo far germany and singapore had big problems
Mines spot on.
Simfree handset. No problems here in the Brum area.
Worth doing a similar survey on WiFi problems / buttons lighting up?
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Worth doing a similar survey on WiFi problems / buttons lighting up?
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I disagree as these problems effect everyone and are both software related and should both be fixable when we can build custom roms
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orange uk fine. I think the UK batch are all good build quality.
@Edward Lowy
not if you can accept them and taking the risk
@ben_pyett
the wifi cant be software, of course you can change a little bit the sensitivity, the bad antenna placement and cover will still remain
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I disagree as these problems effect everyone and are both software related and should both be fixable when we can build custom roms
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That's my point - they don't seem to affect everyone. Both issues affected me but clearly that is not everybodys findings.
There are well reported software issues with the buttons, basically the phone detects the background ambient light levels and decides whether our not to light up the buttons
Sometimes in a dark room the presence of a bright light source such as a window or a bright Tv stop them from lighting
unfortunately there us nothing we can do.
Although considering that the buttons don't change positions I always know where they are and which one is which so I can't see what the real problem is?
with regards the wi fi issue, there is another thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051674
Where someone has posted a possible software fix, although you need S-off in order to apply it.
I suffer from both of these problems.
But, Fortunately I don't hold the phone in landscape so the wi fi issue doesn't bother me, and I know where the buttons are so don't need them to be lit
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I shared this on the Desire S Owners Poll thread and I am sure some of you might have seen it but here is my device I received this past Tuesday via FedEx from Singapore(It is an Indian device according to the IMEI info. HTC UK told me this btw.) Major problems with the battery cover. We need to make HTC be aware of these issues.
can you not just ask for a new one under warranty?
I'm in the UK and have had my DS 3 full days perfect no floors no wi-fi issue in landscape mode and set up with current OS and skinned.
Though day 4 bottom corners lifting by Home and Search keys and also have the smallest gap between unibody and screen near volume rocker and touch keys. The gap is enough to see back light coming through in the dark/dusk.
Hope this helps, i have a brand new (not refurbished) replacement coming first thing tomorrow will report on that with any news or similar issues.
Any of you sim free owners have the UMA signal boost app on the Stock shipped ROM 2.3.3 just interested?
Cheres
mine does not have UMA signal boost app
Sim free, no app installed
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Thanks guys was looking at stock rom to remove 'bloatware' but the app on the orange rom is handy think i will just use launcher pro to hide unwanted apps rather than install stock ROM.
Just waiting on the courier for my replacement handset fingers crossed no faults with this one.
Ok so brand new replacement handset and i still have these issues the bottom right corner is already showing that it's raised in comparison to the bottom left corner and there is still a visible gap on the left of the screen can see the charge port through this and light still shining through in the right light.
Looks like bad quality control from HTC will be contacting orange in a mo as i'm still in my cooling off period. I am really disappointed Android OS is great for the customisation but this handset seem's to have been rushed in the build quality.
Hope this helps.
my device has a perfect screen
so i think that it is just in some locations...or maybe the batch that they currently have at your buyer is defective
mariu$ said:
do you have any of these problems?
Q1:Bottom removable cover doesnt fit right- leaves a gap, makes noise when pressed.
Q2:Large >1mm gap between the glass of the screen and metal. Not like in reviews, official photos.
what about the phone getting uncomfortably hot?
im trying to isolate the problem, which batch, which countries
soo far germany and singapore had big problems
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tested one at my local o2 store, no problem, or maybe because it has the security stuff on it so i didnt get a good feel.. i ended up getting a sgs 2 yesterday though
Just read the above posts and now concern that my phone is one of those bad batch (O2 UK).
Firstly there is a gap at the top of the screen. (above the htc logo) big enough to stick the edge of a paper.
Second, there is light leakage on both the bottom corner (home and search key) only viewable when looking at a certain angle.
Third, is the bottom of the screen and the metal part meant to be even? As my bottom screen is more raised.
Finally, is all of the above problems are covered by the 12 month warranty and in which case I can ask for a replacement from O2?
Thanks in advance.
mariu$ said:
do you have any of these problems?
Q1:Bottom removable cover doesnt fit right- leaves a gap, makes noise when pressed.
Q2:Large >1mm gap between the glass of the screen and metal. Not like in reviews, official photos.
what about the phone getting uncomfortably hot?
im trying to isolate the problem, which batch, which countries
soo far germany and singapore had big problems
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i have this also under heavy use?
same is mine

Thinking of getting the Sensation.

Was wondering if it was worth upgrading from a g2? What do you guys think about it? Let me have some pros and cons before I dish out my booze money I had saved lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]
no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.
henrik.dk said:
no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.
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agreed ,and henrik.dk was being nice because he could of said worse
henrik.dk said:
no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.
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dont get any worse than the build quality of the g2 ....get one
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dont get any worse than the build quality of the g2 ....get one
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you also right thats why he should wait dont make sense to to dush out more money for another low build quality phone
Can you elaborate on poor build quality?
I bought yesterday and now you have me seriously worried.
phonegod said:
you also right thats why he should wait dont make sense to to dush out more money for another low build quality phone
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well i like mine ,ive got no probs with the build quality , i get a new phone every year so i only wait a year, my hd2 was the only phone i kept over a year, so its whatever your means are to keep up with the technology
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Can you elaborate on poor build quality?
I bought yesterday and now you have me seriously worried.
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just read the forum post on sensation general,sensation Q&A theres alot of things that go on with the phone i for one like it not had some of the problems people have but this is my third sensation so ive had my bit of problems but on my third sensation everthing is good
phonegod said:
just read the forum post on sensation general,sensation Q&A theres alot of things that go on with the phone i for one like it not had some of the problems people have but this is my third sensation so ive had my bit of problems but on my third sensation everthing is good
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Thanks mate yea I saw the issues there they seem to be with certain handsets only.
I was just worried as the guy above made it sound like there was problem with all the handsets build quality
mcpothead said:
Thanks mate yea I saw the issues there they seem to be with certain handsets only.
I was just worried as the guy above made it sound like there was problem with all the handsets build quality
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sure no problem you will be ok just handle the phone with care the back piece is fragile very, try not to drop the back cover or you will loose your volume rocker or the power button and remember to slide it in and out the back cover head first thats what he meant about build quality i think
phonegod said:
sure no problem you will be ok just handle the phone with care the back piece is fragile very, try not to drop the back cover or you will loose your volume rocker or the power button and remember to slide it in and out the back cover head first thats what he meant about build quality i think
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Thanks again will take extra care when putting the battery in. Then the case and screen protector are going straight on
THIS IS THE WORST, MOST SHODDILY CONSTRUCTED PHONE THAT COULD EVER EXIST (Not)
The "build quality" of the phone is fine. There are a few problems associated with being early adopters, that a small fraction of people on XDA have. As far as I know, everyone with major issues had them resolved by returning their phone, in store and getting it replaced on the spot.
There are different displays one bye AUO and one made by Sharp, if you're having trouble and prefer either display you can go in-store and exchange it, after telling them the issues you're having with your phone.
Furthermore many of the so called "issues" with build quality are BS manufactured by XDA-ers. Like:
"If I turn of my screen and hold it at a 45 degree angle while shining a flashlight at it I can see a spec of dust under the screen, I'm really really worried ='("
or my personal favorite:
"When I press down on the buttons on the bottom of my screen I hear a slight creaking sound WTF HTC!?!?"
My personal second favorite is THE LAGGY SENSE ISSUE, which essentially goes like this :
"I saw a video on youtube and the HTC EVO 3D runs the HTC Sense homescreen carousel milliseconds faster and smoother than the HTC Sensation, WTF HTC !!! IS THIS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR!?!?!?"
- I would like to note that this issue only came into existence after said video made its way to the forums and someone decided that it was an "issue" that a slightly newer phone, with slightly better hardware and a slightly more optimized ROM, ran sense 3.0 slightly better than our phones do at the moment.
- They aren't buttons... this is a touch screen phone and just because they look like buttons doesn't mean that they should be pressed like buttons.
- Wifi-Signal attenuation while holding the phone, in landscape, a particular way IS real, but only if you are far away from your router. ALL phones experience signal attenuation when all or parts of the radios are covered, our phones do not lost Cellular data signal when held in landscape as has been erroneously reported in some places.
Now I will tell you about my experiences with the phone. Both cameras perform poorly in low light conditions and other than that it's a beast of a phone. Absolutely phenomenal.Strangely enough, I don't hear many people talking about this, actual issue where the phone is not performing as one might realistically expect it to perform.
I got my device on launch day and haven't had one "issue" yet. I have seen and others have noted that some dust can get inside of the phone's case, near the headphone jack. I would consider this another NON-issue as it has not been shown to cause any issues. Furthermore dust frequently gets inside of electronics, that's why the good lord above invented compressed air. Some XDA-ers inhale it then try to find issues with their devices, I will use it to clean my phone in a few months, the same way that I do to my desktop PC or the way my little brother does to his gaming consoles.
It's a terrible phone if you only use it at 45 degree angles, in the dark, while shining a flashlight on it, with the display turned off as you press extra hard on the touchscreen (because YOU believe they are buttons to be pressed and not a screen to be touched), using your phone a mile away from your home router, in landscape while completely covering the top of the phone and watching videos of HTC EVO 3D's performing slightly better and getting jealous.
If you use your phone like a normal end-user or even a power user and NOT a beta tester in a laboratory setting then the phone is amazing.
I rest my case.
Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated.
[G2/HTC Vision]
That was pretty good statement. +1
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
BonesRed speaks the truth
Thanks for the info don't feel so nervous now
Thanks
BonesRed said:
The "build quality" of the phone is fine. There are a few problems associated with being early adopters, that a small fraction of people on XDA have. As far as I know, everyone with major issues had them resolved by returning their phone, in store and getting it replaced on the spot.
There are different displays one bye AUO and one made by Sharp, if you're having trouble and prefer either display you can go in-store and exchange it, after telling them the issues you're having with your phone.
Furthermore many of the so called "issues" with build quality are BS manufactured by XDA-ers. Like:
"If I turn of my screen and hold it at a 45 degree angle while shining a flashlight at it I can see a spec of dust under the screen, I'm really really worried ='("
or my personal favorite:
"When I press down on the buttons on the bottom of my screen I hear a slight creaking sound WTF HTC!?!?"
My personal second favorite is THE LAGGY SENSE ISSUE, which essentially goes like this :
"I saw a video on youtube and the HTC EVO 3D runs the HTC Sense homescreen carousel milliseconds faster and smoother than the HTC Sensation, WTF HTC !!! IS THIS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR!?!?!?"
- I would like to note that this issue only came into existence after said video made its way to the forums and someone decided that it was an "issue" that a slightly newer phone, with slightly better hardware and a slightly more optimized ROM, ran sense 3.0 slightly better than our phones do at the moment.
- They aren't buttons... this is a touch screen phone and just because they look like buttons doesn't mean that they should be pressed like buttons.
- Wifi-Signal attenuation while holding the phone, in landscape, a particular way IS real, but only if you are far away from your router. ALL phones experience signal attenuation when all or parts of the radios are covered, our phones do not lost Cellular data signal when held in landscape as has been erroneously reported in some places.
Now I will tell you about my experiences with the phone. Both cameras perform poorly in low light conditions and other than that it's a beast of a phone. Absolutely phenomenal.Strangely enough, I don't hear many people talking about this, actual issue where the phone is not performing as one might realistically expect it to perform.
I got my device on launch day and haven't had one "issue" yet. I have seen and others have noted that some dust can get inside of the phone's case, near the headphone jack. I would consider this another NON-issue as it has not been shown to cause any issues. Furthermore dust frequently gets inside of electronics, that's why the good lord above invented compressed air. Some XDA-ers inhale it then try to find issues with their devices, I will use it to clean my phone in a few months, the same way that I do to my desktop PC or the way my little brother does to his gaming consoles.
It's a terrible phone if you only use it at 45 degree angles, in the dark, while shining a flashlight on it, with the display turned off as you press extra hard on the touchscreen (because YOU believe they are buttons to be pressed and not a screen to be touched), using your phone a mile away from your home router, in landscape while completely covering the top of the phone and watching videos of HTC EVO 3D's performing slightly better and getting jealous.
If you use your phone like a normal end-user or even a power user and NOT a beta tester in a laboratory setting then the phone is amazing.
I rest my case.
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thanks man
luis86dr said:
Was wondering if it was worth upgrading from a g2? What do you guys think about it? Let me have some pros and cons before I dish out my booze money I had saved lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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You should look into getting the mytouch 4g slide it comes out July 27th it has pretty much the same specs but you won't have to give up your physical keyboard and it can handle T-Mobile HSPA+
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I am not sure what these guys are referring to as having questionable build quality. If anything that would apply to the G2 and that was my last phone...well, right before the G2x horror.
You should be quite happy with the Sensation, if you have nothing against HTC Sense, as it is a very good device. Very good. I am certain it will be bested in some way by another high end Android phone in a few months, or weeks (there's always something new) but I am flat out thrilled to be using one right now.
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Having had HTC HERO and A HTD HD7 I was more of inclined to go for the SENSATION,
But after hovering around both threads decided for the GAlaxy s2 due to better back camera and front camera(2mp) and also for the fact that it came with bootloader unlocked
ANd I guess that was the best decision I made cause of one more reason being....
You can flash the latest firmwares on samsung Devices with ODIN without the NEED TO ROOT which I think is really cool.
I am already on a leaked version of 2.3.4 running beautifully with gtalk video working really great and have not even rooted my phone yet
Just my thoughts.........

After 2 weeks with the 8x

There aren't any general posts on using the device, so here are a few points that resonate with me after a couple weeks of using the device.
I'm using the 8x on Bell in Canada, the blue version. Prior to buying the 8x I was using a Galaxy s3. I've used other WP in the past, so the OS is not totally new to me (Focus, Lumia 800). You could go to any of the major tech sites for a comprehensive review, that's not my intention with this post.
Industrial Design/Durability - A day doesn't go by where I don't just stare at the device for a few seconds...it's absolutely lovely. The polycarbonate is fantastic for daily use and regular wear and tear. I regularly have the device in my jacket pocket with keys and not a mark on it. None of the little micro scratches that are present on any other phone, particularly with glossy surfaces. I do worry about getting a big scratch, I anticipate it will be more devastating to this material. I do worry that this thing will crumble if I drop it on a hard surface. It would probably fare just fine, but there is a sense that it is fragile and delicate. I also have a major beef about the design of the buttons...gets a section all its own.
Build Quality - At first I thought the build quality was great. But now after 2 weeks of use it has developed some occasional flex and creakiness. This is particularly evident when squeezing the device on the sides, something I do more often in my struggle to press the power/lock button. I still thing the build is very good, but it feels less solid in the hand when I feel it creak.
Usability of Buttons - I hesitate to say it, but the buttons (except the camera button) are totally useless. I somehow thought I could get used to the power button, but not the case. First, the power button placement is less than ideal. This phone is too tall to have it on the top, I can't reach it without repositioning my hand. A user should be able to easily go from one-handed use to locking the phone. Second, there is no play or feedback in the buttons. They are so squishy and unresponsive its like I'm using a crap KIRF device. The power/lock button is the absolute worst, between the position of the button (in relation to the curvature of the plastic) and the lack of play, the power/lock button is nearly impossible to press. I seriously take 2-3 presses before I get it, when in a hurry even more times. The volume buttons are not nearly as annoying, but still useless. When I'm on a call with my headset and the phone is in the pocket, you can't just put your hand in the pocket and adjust the volume...gotta take it out to make sure you are actually pressing a button. Everytime, I feel the need to look at my phone when adjusting the volume, there is no other feedback that you've pressed the buttons. The camera button is great! The first press (of the 2-stage button) is exactly how every single button should feel like. It seems crazy, but this is the single reason that I cannot use the 8x as a long term phone. It's going for sale.
Screen - This screen is absolutely gorgeous...when viewed head on. Viewing angles are pretty bad.
Windows Phone 8 - I absolutely love the design of WP8. There are some gaps and oddities throughout, but I have faith that it will improve. Oddities include: lack of persistent clock and signal indicators (disappears even in People hub and Explorer), lack of independent volume controls (Alarm is cranked all the time). Once I get a proper Dropbox app, I'll be fairly happy. I'm willing to live with a developing OS and ecosystem because of the joy the interface brings me!
Bottom Line - I'm selling it and buying an unlocked Lumia 920. I cannot use a phone with a useless lock button. I've gone back to Bell and tried other devices and all the 8x are the same. Honestly, how can HTC screw up buttons. Samsung tends to have soft buttons too, but at least the placement is on the side for easy access. The Nokia, Apple and LG have figured out the complex world of buttons.
Anyways. This is a wonderful device with a small fatal flaw.
I sadly have to agree on the lock button placement - its placement is less than ideal. I'm not really fussed about the keys being almost flush with the body, but I can imagine people not liking this. It took me a while to get used to the feel myself, but after some practice I only have some trouble with pressing the lock button sometimes.
Its interesting you say that there is no feedback when pressing the buttons? I can definitly feel a "click" when I press my buttons (like the camera button does) so maybe you got unlucky... And I've no flex nor creakyness. I have had the phone for three weeks now I believe, no case used so far!
The only thing I regret is the lack of a SD slot. I'm not sure about the viewing angles, I don't see any problem, nor have I heard friends complain about it. Then again, this is a personal opinion I guess.
But bottom line is that I should have waited for a Nokia myself. Not going to sell this baby, I love it too much for that, but I will gladly get myself a Nokia after this phone is through (which I hope won't happen anytime soon!).
its funny, at first my impression was this.. but now it feels more natural, you actually don't have to hit it to hard, and after having a samsung for a year its refreshing to have a different layout. its almost like a pressure spot, like a place to squeeze the phone and it turns on (if that makes sense) the only thing that bugs me is all three buttons react differently. the lock is more flush than volume, and the camera being a double action is better.
I don't get what you are saying about viewing angle though. I find it more than sufficient (maybe under high glare light cause of the contour) but I love this phone.
my biggest complaint is the notification light that isn't. who puts an led in a phone but does not let it work for notifications.. this is like having a car without windows.. not needed but when it rains you wish you had em'
The power button issue was solved for me by using a case, it has an indent so I immediately know where the power button is. Side buttons have a raised material that also makes it very easy to find the buttons and press without issue.
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uhhdoug, you make a good point about "squeeze" points rather than typical button pushing. I find I do this, basically wrap my finger around the top right and squeeze...usually powering it on.
This device is absolutely lovely otherwise, I could never put it in a case. But usability sucks.
After 1 week... My volume up button is stuck. Not physically, the button still clicks. However, the phone keeps detecting a volume up command. Sending for repair today. Lets see how efficient HTC is.
Same here - power button is a pain in the ass!!! I manage to activate it 1 out of 10 times when using only one hand
I realised that it's easier to use the camera button to bring the screen on and that's what I'm doing since last week.
I've been using mine (a blue one on Telenor, Hungary) for only 3 days so far, but here's my exeperience anyway: the power button doesn't bother me that much, it reminds me of my iPhone 3G I had a few years ago - I do have big hands though. Coming from an Omnia 7 I really like that I don't mistake the volume rocker for the power button (this was a major pain in the butt where I accidentally turned on the screen in my pocket when trying to change the volume).
Compared to the amoled in the Samsung the blacks and the viewing angles kinda suck, but the resolution makes up for them imo.
I see no discolouring/dirt on the corners, but I did get a few random reboots already (still more reliable than my Galaxy Tab with Cyanogen Mod 10 though).
For those interested in the audio quality the 8X sounds awesome with a pair of mid-range cans (Sennheiser HD518), I'd say on par if not better than a last-gen iPod classic. Turning the Beats Eq on the volume goes up to insane levels (20/30 on a subway is perfectly audible with open-back headphones and 30/30 actually hurts my ears after a minute or so). So, while this is by no means in audiophile territory, it is, in my opinion, more than enough for listening on the go.
Also, the device is absolutely gorgeus to look at and feels great in the hand. Oh, and WP8 is beyond awesome
After 1 week i can say is that the phone is great if you ask me.
Power button .....yes bad place.
16G storage .......meh it will manage.
The majority of the good from this phone makes up for those 2 issues.
So no deal breaker here.
Battery ?
Charge ,charge and charge .
After 1 week on the charger and it will preform great.
And i listing more then 4 hours of music, check the web, Facebook and twitter and so on.
At the end of my work day 50% left.
Nothing wrong with that because my one x drained faster ( Stock).
Greetz.
i agree about the power button its struggle, HTC did it even worse on their verizon DNA, not only that the DNA is even taller they placed the power button in the top middle
we have an awesome kernel fix for the One X which is sweep2wake (you sweep the three touch button) an amazing solution we proposed to HTC lets hope they adopt in their upcoming phones
also comparing to my One X, i love the screen but im gutted the view angles are not match, the One X has an amazing screen where the "floating" can be viewed from the most extreme angles without loosing one percent on the blacks, i'm disappointed but its definitely a downgrade form the One X
I worry that eventually all blue 8x will discolor in the corners and that's what's deterring me from this phone
Diztronic TPU case was a godsend for finding the power button.
Volume and camera buttons are covered but line up ok and cant really tell. Tight fit, thin ,very little added bulk and only makes the phone loose about 1/2 a sexy point. Makes you feel a little better about manhandling this purdy phone too.
I loved mine in some ways but had to return it after a week or so.
It did not pay well with Bluetooth at all..I had problems with my 2011 Corolla and a 2012 Buick Verano. Voice quality was horrible on the Corolla, and music played in slow motion on the Verano.
I also had consistent issues with Netflix and sound problems.
So many apps were missing from the app store...resco radio and most streaming radio apps, and Oregon Trail.
Worst of all is what they did to bing maps. It would was a good and comprehensive feature before that I often used...but it had been neutered and rendered basically useless. I had to pay for Verizon navigation.
I didn't even try syncing my extensive zune collection. So I regretfully went to Android again after having several windows phones . Which is sad because I absolutely love windows phone.
The screen was great, it felt super premium in hand, so many features are beautiful and useful, and best of all no lag! I miss it alot. I loved the previous integration with my zune collection. Did I say the screen was gorgeous lol.
And the Nokia 920 was far too bulky and heavy .
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Well, I officially sold my 8x.
Pains me a little, the overall industrial design was fantastic. WP8 is so refreshing to use and look at.
But, the power button was terrible. Used a couple of devices, all the same. The screen was nice compared to old windows phones, but not compared to other high end phones. I'm on the Nexus 4 now and the screen is superior.
The OS is severely handicapped. I want it to be awesome, but it just is not there yet. I could not be as productive with it. It feels like a step up from a blackberry, but you can't quite do what you need, especially from a productivity standpoint. The OS is fluid, but terribly inefficient. Constant swirling of animations, I just want to get to the app. Multi-tasking is worse than any other smartphone OS and will be worse than BB10 when it ships. Notifications are non-existent. Sure, notifications are coming, but they aren't here now. This doesn't even mention the "app-gap". All these flaws feel larger than life when I wake up to the WP8 alarm in the morning...blaring at full volume because you cannot adjust it.
It is too bad, the 8x is gorgeous. I look forward to trying WP again in the future...
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I worry that eventually all blue 8x will discolor in the corners and that's what's deterring me from this phone
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The same thing happened to mine. I was forced to get a case for it. Pretty horrible engineering design on HTC's part.
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The same thing happened to mine. I was forced to get a case for it. Pretty horrible engineering design on HTC's part.
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Its quite bad that you guys are having so many problems with the 8x. I had initial problems with figuring out the buttons but now its more of a muscle memory kind of thing, after you get used to the fact that the finger has to glide by the front of the phone rather than the back of the phone.
5 days having 8x - great device - but complete change in your files philosphy ...
5 days having 8x - great device - but complete change in your files philosophy ...
Migrated from 4 years HD2 using was somehow shocking but acceptable.
"Hand feelig" is very good
Power button may be better but is usable.
I am missing very simple app. to lock the screen (make it black) without touching power button - anybody knows ?
I am very disappointed by the fact that using phone keyboard there is no automatic search through contacts using 3-letters associated with numbers - this was one of the greatest HD2 features- anybody knows how to to it ? Of course I may try to install many diallers but having too many apps on the phone is cumbersome ... :crying: ... I would be gratefull for any suggestions.
Disctionary is great - first time in any phone/pda I used
I have just received my phone from HTC (got it from HTC Elevate) yesterday, so this is my preliminary thoughts.
I think the hardware is great, my unit doesn't have light leaks whatsoever but agree with OP that buttons are too flushed (except for the camera) and my power button is a little loose, so it rattles when I shake the phone. Viewing angle is, I agree, bad. But not a deal breaker for me, as it shifts only in extreme angles. But otherwise, the hardware is great.
as for the OS, I love the look, but I really hate not to be able to have apps that I have in my Desire S. I share photos with my relatives through instagram, and although there is a client app for it, it can't upload. Then comes the music EQ. So used to PowerAMP makes me longing for a great music app like that for my 8X. Don't get me wrong, the audio is good, if not great, but I just find it a little too "boring" and "lifeless" and would like to be able to adjust EQ myself. And then comes the Dropbox problem. As for the OS itself, I really hate not being able to glance at the battery percentage or any other status. I need status bar, I need notification center.
Nevertheless, I think I can live with the OS'es shortcomings, I just hope that with time, it will mature and grow and better itself.
As for the hardware, my only problem is the buttons, but still they are usable and is not really a big deal for me.
How is the camera. I am long time android guy and have an 8x coming to try out. I wanted to try one but the camera is really important to my. My soff rezound with a nice Rom take fantastic pics in most all conditions so that's my baseline.
But I'm going to def give this phone some testing.
I've hit a week with mine, and heres what I can add.
Industrial Design/Durability - "A day doesn't go by where I don't just stare at the device for a few seconds..." - yea, Ive named mine 'sexy beast' because it really is just a beautiful phone. I keep it in my pocket as well, and so far so good. Its also easy to clean off, which surprised me, I didn't expect the back material to wipe down so easily. So for a design and durabilty I give it an A
Build Quality - I haven't had any creaking, or any really noticable flaws, however, there is just one design flaw in mine, but you have to look. Bottom left corner is aprx 1mm higher than upper right corner, but its only noticable if you really look. Otherwise, its running at an A as well for Build Quality.
Usability of Buttons - "I hesitate to say it, but the buttons (except the camera button) are totally useless." I wouldn't say I have large hands, at least I don't think I do. I have noticed that when I hold the phone in my left hand (my usuall position), the volume buttons fall perfectly between my first finger which rests just below the buttons and my next two fingers, which are able to grasp the sides of the phone without touching the rockers. The camera button then falls between the pinky which also rests just below the button and my two middle fingers. And its an easy slide for me to swing my finger to the power button. When the phone is in a pocket and I am listening to music, I find the volume buttons raised just enough where I can find them inside the pocket, and turn up or down. I haven't had any issues with the buttons, and actually find them better in terms of functionality than the buttons on my old TB. Again, an A
Screen - "This screen is absolutely gorgeous...when viewed head on. Viewing angles are pretty bad." Well, I agree that its truly stunning. Cant believe how crystal clear everything is. And as for angles, the only issue I have is that the screen is so damn good, it reflects too much when viewed at angles! I don't have issues per se seeing the screen, but I have to deal with the reflected element! So give it a B
Windows Phone 8 - I agree that Windows hit this really good! As for a home run, maybe an 'in the park' home run. The persistant clock? I don't seem to have that issue, since my clock is always there, and always correct. I also agree in regards to independent volume. And I would love to put my own sound bites for messaging and other notifications, not be stuck with stock. Playlists too, a real beeaach to set one up! Score a B for the OS, but still love it! Knowing it can get better is a plus.
Bottom Line - Im keeping this bad boy for a long time! If the wife can even say she likes it (first phone of mine she ever said that about) then its a keeper! Overall, I think its a great phone. Battery life is fantastic, its snappy and responsive, its integration with social networks and the ability to customize those is fantastic. Integration with xbox could be more, but I don't think my 'more' is possible! Phone gets a A-, just because I know its gonna get better!

Samsung and Quality

Just a quick report of my journey buying a S8 without any issues in Germany. I had now 5 S8 midnight blacks here. Every one had atleast one issue of rhe following.
Yellow tint or green tint with non uniform white. Not removable by white balance correction. Light leak above front cam and iris sensor or at edges of the glas. Bixby and power buttons were also often too loose.
I have now written a message to the office of Samsung Germanys CEO Office complaining about their Quality Control. I think im done now. Its really annoying. This is in my opinion not acceptable for a premium phone. Its impossible to find a phone that has not at least one of this issues and i fear that S9 wont be better.
Lol and they confirmed all of these defects?
Mann when I hear this I am so happy with my s8+ coming from a one plus 5.
Bet you wouldn't succeed having 5 swaps with the customer service of one plus.
It was at 5 different shops but they all said that this should not happen. Before i had a sony and there was everything fine from the beginning.
Well I bought it and it's working flawlessly. Might be you are the lucky one chosen Moreover I bought it online.
I will at least comment on a few of these
I have not any of the screen tint issues but my device was made in november of 2017 so a later production
But my biggest things is the power button feeling loose.....I like this...AS in the past on sammy devices i have owned and i mean all of them the power button eventually feels so tight and sticky despite taking good care of my devices....In past there was no fix except disassembly The S7 I would run under a tad bit of water to temp clean it and free it up...So IMO the looser buttons are a blessing......But sammy does seem to have a quality control isee here in the last few years it seems
I would also like to add to this
I have only removed my cheap plastic sim tray about 5 times and quite carefully I might add... but despite this it still broke in less than one month of use and sammy says Oh we so sowwy. Physical damage not covered by warranty Please pay 15 dolla fo new sim card tray....
Screw that.. I found metal dual sim trays online for 3 bucks for 2 of them but coming from china take a month to get here......
Well i tried it today the last time . was the 6th device. not happy at all.
everything is now fine. no light leak above camera/iris and also buttons are ok. but:
The screen is shifting its white so badly when tilting a bit the device on the Z-axis or Y-axis that this must be a joke. From yellowish normal, to a red/pink hue that goes from botttom to top deping on the amount of the angle, then a bit green and back to yellow. Don't know if this has something maybe with the polarization filter or a coating to do. I had a s7 and this was never a problem there. i wouldnt even care when this would be only for the Y-axis as im not looking from the side to the phone but often from top or bottom. skin tones are fading into green at a specific angle in landscape. When editing photos (whitebalance) i need to have a correct whitebalance for at least some degrees that are in common use.
when i saw at the store a new sony booting up with the white bootscreen then i saw again what is possible with IPS i was shocked what samsung is doing here. its a bit sad because the s8 is a really nice phone. lets see what the s9 will be.

Back to U12+ in 2019?

Hey all,
after a brief period with the U12+ back in August 2018 (where I was relatively happy with it) I decided to sell it and try something new for a change, as I was using exclusively HTC handsets for the last 8 years. It was succeeded by an Essential (top phone) and afterwards by a Pixel 3XL. I have now the chance to return to it, do you think it is a good idea? I am afraid I will miss the Pixel's impressive AMOLED display and the coolness of stock Android, but then again I am still curious to get back to HTC. Also, how have things changed, software wise, during the last months? To the ones that still use it, would you recommend it in 2019? Or should I just bite the bullet and go with the flow (Sammy S10)? Thanks in advance!
I would not buy this phone anymore, because the buttons are really annoying and HTC does not care about fixing issues or update the phone to Android Pie.
I got mine not so long ago. It's perfect for me but there is the familiarity, I've had nothing but HTC for years so am loathe to move away to Samsung or the others. Camera is way more than adequate for my needs, yes the buttons are "odd" but usable and I love the sound from it (if only it was tad louder it would be perfect for me). But you've had one before so know what to expect. I'd do it but to be fair, there are some awesome phones out right now and yes, the absolute tragedy that HTC have turned their OTA update policy is pretty disgusting so I can't and won't defend that...
Personally I wouldn't, the software hasn't been radically altered from launch. The camera is great, sound is great, battery life is ok, screen is ok for an LCD but the buttons, oh the buttons.
They're still terrible, sometimes working, sometimes not, if you reboot the phone it'll detect a button push and turn a volume up or down depending on which way the wind is blowing. The other thing that drives me crackers is the screen won't wake up fully if auto-brightness is on, you have to lock/unlock the phone repeatedly until it decides to ramp the brightness up.
All that said, if I had to buy a phone now I honestly don't know what I would get apart from dig out my old HTC10!
Walk away and don't look back.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using Tapatalk
MrN1484 said:
Personally I wouldn't, the software hasn't been radically altered from launch. The camera is great, sound is great, battery life is ok, screen is ok for an LCD but the buttons, oh the buttons.
They're still terrible, sometimes working, sometimes not, if you reboot the phone it'll detect a button push and turn a volume up or down depending on which way the wind is blowing. The other thing that drives me crackers is the screen won't wake up fully if auto-brightness is on, you have to lock/unlock the phone repeatedly until it decides to ramp the brightness up.
All that said, if I had to buy a phone now I honestly don't know what I would get apart from dig out my old HTC10!
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the screen wake up issue seems like a software bug (factory reset or RUU tried?).
for the buttons, I have the blue variant and they work super super fine, I mostly use the stock case or some clear tpu cases like spigen clear case or the mumbi. the buttons and edge sense features work there fine too!.
I've heard a lot, that the red variant seems to have issues, maybe due to the anodizing
I am not agreed with you guys.. the phone is perfect but i am waiting pie.. the buttons is perfect for me..
DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
the screen wake up issue seems like a software bug (factory reset or RUU tried?).
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Yep! RUU'd and factory reset this weekend, I've learned that if I need the phone (GPS while walking in London or taking pics) I just disable auto brightness.
Mine is a blue one and the buttons have always been meh, that said I've still got and use the phone so it's got enough about it to warrant keeping it.
MrN1484 said:
Yep! RUU'd and factory reset this weekend, I've learned that if I need the phone (GPS while walking in London or taking pics) I just disable auto brightness.
Mine is a blue one and the buttons have always been meh, that said I've still got and use the phone so it's got enough about it to warrant keeping it.
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It could be a bad batch, even though my phone is from one of the first batches and even the pre-release units in the pre-briefing were fine, except the red one, it had issues
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs
Far from an HTC fanboy, but I have the U11 and the U12+. I'm a photographer and the U11 got me incredible publications. The U12+ being better also has and I've been very happy with the former. The latter is a mixed bag, but I sacrifice a lot for photography. The only thing about the LCD I don't like is the power consumption when using always on. Outside of that, it's perfectly fine, maybe not when I'm snowboarding and the screen freezes, but I had the same thing with my AMOLED Samsungs.
Edge Sense with a case is not good, neither are the tactile buttons, but they are usable. I'm using a Ringke.
The camera app is not great, particularly how the screen is shrunken. Again, the image quality is excellent and not just the sensor and processing, but the optics are pretty amazing across the frame. The only step back from the U11 is that the HDR mode creates halos sometimes. Never had such an issue with the U11.
Disclaimer: I bought a lightly used Taiwanese U12+ 128 from a local, reputable shop for a steal. Would not pay full price. I could have gone s9+ for a few Euros more, same condition, but I decided against it due to the HTC image quality being well beyond that of the Samsung- again, good enough for international publication in good to moderate light.

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