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Greetings to all Xoom users!
I'm a happy Xoom Wifi user (HWI69) with some basic root questions.
- If I unlock and root my Xoom will I be able to unroot and relock my xoom since the official motorola files are out?
- If I follow the procedure to unlock and root the xoom will I lose all the apps/configuration that I have customized?
- Is there a way to make a full backup without rooting?
- Is there anyway to use the sdcard slot without rooting the xoom?
- Any news on a motorola update that will activate the sdcard slot?
- I saw quite a lot of users who have bricked their wifi xoom trying to root the beast. Since the official motorola wifi files are available is it guaranty that I will be able to unbrick my xoom if something goes wrong?
- Is there a difference between soft brick and hard brick?
I think that's all for the moment
Thanks for your help!
spirouzbe said:
Greetings to all Xoom users!
I'm a happy Xoom Wifi user (HWI69) with some basic root questions.
- If I unlock and root my Xoom will I be able to unroot and relock my xoom since the official motorola files are out?
Possibly
- If I follow the procedure to unlock and root the xoom will I lose all the apps/configuration that I have customized?
If you don't back them up .... Yes
- Is there a way to make a full backup without rooting?
Yes and No
- Is there anyway to use the sdcard slot without rooting the xoom?
Not currently
- Any news on a motorola update that will activate the sdcard slot?
No Answer
- I saw quite a lot of users who have bricked their wifi xoom trying to root the beast. Since the official motorola wifi files are available is it guaranty that I will be able to unbrick my xoom if something goes wrong?
No Answer
- Is there a difference between soft brick and hard brick?
I would think Yes
I think that's all for the moment
Thanks for your help!
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That was my .02 but more detailed information is available in the forum.
spirouzbe said:
- I saw quite a lot of users who have bricked their wifi xoom trying to root the beast. Since the official motorola wifi files are available is it guaranty that I will be able to unbrick my xoom if something goes wrong?
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They have had problems only because they attempted to relock without flashing the official Motorola images first; Motorola did not have these available for download until very recently. So long as you don't try and relock without the correct images on the device first, you should be fine.
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That was my .02 but more detailed information is available in the forum.
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Thanks for the answers ! I have read about all the posts on the Xoom section and i asked those questions because im kind of confused as the informations found are quite different depending on the model/date of the posts.
Some more questions
- For the unrooted backup do you have any app suggestions ?
- What is the purpose of ClockWorkMod Recovery ? Will it protect me from flashing the wrong xoom files (boot ?) ? Kind of a HardSPL/USPL we use with the HTC custom roms ?
ydaraishy said:
They have had problems only because they attempted to relock without flashing the official Motorola images first; Motorola did not have these available for download until very recently. So long as you don't try and relock without the correct images on the device first, you should be fine.
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So now that we have those correct motorola images we are able to relock the Wifi Xoom without any problem ?
Thanks again for all your help
spirouzbe said:
So now that we have those correct motorola images we are able to relock the Wifi Xoom without any problem ?
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If you do it properly, I don't see why not.
I use My Backup Pro. It's not free but its pretty good. Actually haven't tried it yet on the Zoom but it works fine on my EVO. For rooted users Titanium Backup is good.
The custom recovery will be the foundation of "easy" upgrades to new Rom's, kernels, etc. through flash-able files. Without it you would be required to use ADB to "push" everything to the device. It is also the best backup solution to insure a "complete" backup of your entire system through the Nandroid backup feature. This feature is currently experiencing issues because it is trying to backup the entire "internal" storage to an "external SD card". Since the card is formatted as Fat32 the largest file it can hold is 4GB. This poses a problem because the "internal" drive could have "partitions" larger than 4GB if you have a lot of media on your device. Its still a work in progress. As far as if it "protects" you.....probably not. You need to be sure of what you are doing before using the features.
Regarding the re-lock.... A few users have posted that they were able to re-lock their device but I do not believe anyone has posted as to whether doing so erases any indication that the device was originally un-locked. If you plan on keeping your Xoom for the long haul, I would recommend un-locking and leaving it alone. If for some reason you need to return it for service...THEN worry about re-locking it and dealing any potential pit falls doing so may uncover.
Land Master said:
I use My Backup Pro. It's not free but its pretty good. Actually haven't tried it yet on the Zoom but it works fine on my EVO. For rooted users Titanium Backup is good.
The custom recovery will be the foundation of "easy" upgrades to new Rom's, kernels, etc. through flash-able files. Without it you would be required to use ADB to "push" everything to the device. It is also the best backup solution to insure a "complete" backup of your entire system through the Nandroid backup feature. This feature is currently experiencing issues because it is trying to backup the entire "internal" storage to an "external SD card". Since the card is formatted as Fat32 the largest file it can hold is 4GB. This poses a problem because the "internal" drive could have "partitions" larger than 4GB if you have a lot of media on your device. Its still a work in progress. As far as if it "protects" you.....probably not. You need to be sure of what you are doing before using the features.
Regarding the re-lock.... A few users have posted that they were able to re-lock their device but I do not believe anyone has posted as to whether doing so erases any indication that the device was originally un-locked. If you plan on keeping your Xoom for the long haul, I would recommend un-locking and leaving it alone. If for some reason you need to return it for service...THEN worry about re-locking it and dealing any potential pit falls doing so may uncover.
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Excellent advice. Thank you Land Master.
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I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
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Simplest way is to use RSD Lite to send your device back to stock 4.1.2 -- then you can use the recently posted root method to gain root back. It should take < 15 minutes to do, most of that spent flashing with RSDLite. It'll actually take longer to download all the ADB drivers, Moto drivers, etc -- if you don't have them already.
triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
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Whats up,
Cpudan80 is right, your best bet is to flash stock 4.1.2, and to reroot. And it does take about 15 minutes if you don't already have drivers and stuff, but I can help you out, by linking you to my utility, which essentially does the heavy lifting of finding all of the programs and stuff, and puts it together into one convenient package.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2241788
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Simplest way is to use RSD Lite to send your device back to stock 4.1.2 -- then you can use the recently posted root method to gain root back.
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Mr.Parkinson said:
Cpudan80 is right, your best bet is to flash stock 4.1.2, and to reroot.
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Thanks for the replies! Would you link me to that root method, Cpudan80? All of the root methods I've been able to find say that you must flash 4.0 or CWM first in order to root, then protect root and upgrade to JB again. Is there a new better way which doesn't require downgrading?
triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
Thanks for the replies! Would you link me to that root method, Cpudan80? All of the root methods I've been able to find say that you must flash 4.0 or CWM first in order to root, then protect root and upgrade to JB again. Is there a new better way which doesn't require downgrading?
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There's a thread on here somewhere -- but here's the thread I followed (after using RSDLite to go back to clean 4.1.2). No hard steps at all, just run a bat file - press enter and viola - you're rooted.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/15208-root-motochopper-yet-another-android-root-exploit/
Cpudan80 said:
There's a thread on here somewhere -- but here's the thread I followed (after using RSDLite to go back to clean 4.1.2). No hard steps at all, just run a bat file - press enter and viola - you're rooted.
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Amazing, thanks! I had seen that exploit at one point when I was considering getting an earlier RAZR version and was looking into how easy it was to root it. I thought that exploit didn't work with the XT925 since there was no link to it in the forum (and searches only revealed many tales of failed root attempts and downgrades). Thanks again!
Hi everyone,
I just got my Shield today, and it have been a hard work setting it up
anyway, I have a few questions regarding rooting this thing:
1. Besides from some priviledges I get (ie: in Greenify, Backup apps, access to system partition), is it really worth rooting this thing? (I just found out that all the settings will be gone, everything has to be re-done again)
2. Is it dangerous? Is there a chance rooting screw-up something and this thing get bricked or constant error?
3. If so, is there a way to reverse (like phone ROMs)?
4. Do I have to re-root this thing after every nvidia system updates?
5. If so, is it a painfully long process to re-root?
Thanks everyone
siuking666 said:
Hi everyone,
I just got my Shield today, and it have been a hard work setting it up
anyway, I have a few questions regarding rooting this thing:
1. Besides from some priviledges I get (ie: in Greenify, Backup apps, access to system partition), is it really worth rooting this thing? (I just found out that all the settings will be gone, everything has to be re-done again)
2. Is it dangerous? Is there a chance rooting screw-up something and this thing get bricked or constant error?
3. If so, is there a way to reverse (like phone ROMs)?
4. Do I have to re-root this thing after every nvidia system updates?
5. If so, is it a painfully long process to re-root?
Thanks everyone
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1 I root everything Android I have because of titanium backup. Being able to swap games to different devicesband not lose your data is worth it to me right there alone. Everyone finds their own reason I suppose.
2 and 3 it's really safe. Everything is readily available from nvidia and they are fine with customers rooting it. Even if the hardware breaks they will still RMA the device. But ya rooting it is pretty straight forward and there's several guides on it. There is custom recovery so you can create a nandroid if you mess something up. As long as you can access the bootloader You can restore the stock images via fastboot if you really mess something up.
4 and 5
Yes you have re root after each update but it's really easy to do. The hardest part of all this stuff is getting the drivers installed
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
hexitnow said:
1 I root everything Android I have because of titanium backup. Being able to swap games to different devicesband not lose your data is worth it to me right there alone. Everyone finds their own reason I suppose.
2 and 3 it's really safe. Everything is readily available from nvidia and they are fine with customers rooting it. Even if the hardware breaks they will still RMA the device. But ya rooting it is pretty straight forward and there's several guides on it. There is custom recovery so you can create a nandroid if you mess something up. As long as you can access the bootloader You can restore the stock images via fastboot if you really mess something up.
4 and 5
Yes you have re root after each update but it's really easy to do. The hardest part of all this stuff is getting the drivers installed
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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Thanks
I actually rooted it today after watching the Youtube video made by XDA-developers.
It was awesome and this thing is running fine so far.
siuking666 said:
Thanks
I actually rooted it today after watching the Youtube video made by XDA-developers.
It was awesome and this thing is running fine so far.
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No problem
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
siuking666 said:
Thanks
I actually rooted it today after watching the Youtube video made by XDA-developers.
It was awesome and this thing is running fine so far.
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Link to this video
CAuse im concidering rooting my shield too
hexitnow said:
1 I root everything Android I have because of titanium backup. Being able to swap games to different devicesband not lose your data is worth it to me right there alone. Everyone finds their own reason I suppose.
2 and 3 it's really safe. Everything is readily available from nvidia and they are fine with customers rooting it. Even if the hardware breaks they will still RMA the device. But ya rooting it is pretty straight forward and there's several guides on it. There is custom recovery so you can create a nandroid if you mess something up. As long as you can access the bootloader You can restore the stock images via fastboot if you really mess something up.
4 and 5
Yes you have re root after each update but it's really easy to do. The hardest part of all this stuff is getting the drivers installed
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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I second this. Its quite refreshing to find a company that openly welcomes devs to tinker with their toys and utilize their devices to the fullest.
Hello XDA Community,
I have an old tablet, the Huawei T1-701ua. In recent times I haven't used it as much, but it's because it's running slow.
I want to root it and repurpose it for something else, like a portable media device. Because this tablet is my only one with a moderately big screen. But I've been running into some issues.
The bootloader is locked with a code, that I just cannot unlock. It's argubly the dumbest system Huawei has invented for locking a bootloader. But even if I really was able to unlock it. What do I do with it? Paying a small fee for the code is okay.
And even if I went through all these roadblocks and successfully rooted my tablet, I can't see any officially supported custom roms/images for it, and I don't want to risk bricking it. I've wanted for a long time to install another OS on it, but I wasn't knowledgeable enough.
*I don't want to use Kingroot, Kingoroot, or other one tap root apps, since to me they seem unsafe, and it also makes this rooting process way less interesting*
So with this post, I am kindly asking anyone who sees this to answer a couple of questions, that will help me greatly.
1. Is it worth it to root, in order to remove all bloatware and make this tablet run better, or is there another way?
2. What do I do in order to unlock bootloader with the code?
3. Can I install a custom rom/image/OS through recovery, that isn't supported, and not get my tablet bricked? (eg. LineageOS, even if it's an older version)
I still haven't figured out how and with what exactly I will root my tablet eventually, but due to the lack of information about rooting this kind of tablet, and almost no custom rom developers including this tablet in their support list, I haven't decided.
I will greatly appreciate if anyone who does have information about this topic, link me to another forum post or etc. if this sort of stuff can be easily answered there.
Thanks in advance.
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Simple. No. It is not possible to install another OS. Most, if not all Huaweis, has 3 states only: EMUI, off and bricked.
Thanks for the reply! I guess Huaweis are just the worst devices for rooting/installing another OS. Bad luck I got right there.
I am not gonna root it, maybe just a factory reset and debloating wherever I can.
I installed new soft to my phone and i lost some of photos, screenshot
If I rooted my phone, can I recover my data that was lost after the software update? Can I unroot it later without any effects or issues with banking apps and financial services?
Also, I hope there is a way to retrieve photos and files without rooting the phone because I have tried several methods on both the phone and PC, but they are not recognizing the device even though it appears on the Explorer.
Short answer:
1. A stable wired / wíreless ADB must be given
2. The partition that holds the data in question must be decrypted
3. The phone must be rooted
4. The partition in question must get dumped to PC
5. An external forensic software is needed to read the dumped partition / fles in question
shadyhoo said:
If I rooted my phone, can I recover my data that was lost after the software update?
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To root your phone, you'll need to unlock the bootloader first.
If you unlock the bootloader, it will erase your internal storage and all files will be lost.
Is your bootloader unlocked as of now?
To keep you updated:
You are able to root Android without unlocking the bootloader, keyword: temporary root.
Even though it is possible in some cases to obtain root access without an unlocked bootloader, unlocking the bootloader is required to permanently root a device.
xXx yYy said:
To keep you updated:
You are able to root Android without unlocking the bootloader, keyword: temporary root.
Even though it is possible in some cases to obtain root access without an unlocked bootloader, unlocking the bootloader is required to permanently root a device.
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What are the uses of temporary root?
This post says it is not possible in Android 6 and newer.
I know that people around here who claim a temporary ROOT isn't possible at newer Android versions. That this still happens / happened here at XDA doesn't make things true.
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I know that people around here who claim a temporary ROOT isn't possible at newer Android versions. That this still happens / happened here at XDA doesn't make things true.
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Can you provide more information on this? Even links to existing posts would also do fine.
I'm interested to know if it can be used to debloat the system without tripping Knox or other disadvantages of an unlocked bootloader.
TheMystic said:
To root your phone, you'll need to unlock the bootloader first.
If you unlock the bootloader, it will erase your internal storage and all files will be lost.
Is your bootloader unlocked as of now?
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I had some photos and I was done soft for the phone and lost my photos and screenshot
My phone is a Sony Xperia xz1 compact.. Do you mean to activate this option?
shadyhoo said:
I had some photos and I was done soft for the phone and lost my photos and screenshot
My phone is a Sony Xperia xz1 compact.. Do you mean to activate this option?
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Activating that option is just the first step. There are other things to do to unlock the bootloader.
Since your bootloader is locked as I expected, rooting to recover files is out of question now. That's because if you follow steps to unlock the bootloader, it will wipe everything on your phone. The question of recovery won't arise.
xXx yYy said:
To keep you updated:
You are able to root Android without unlocking the bootloader, keyword: temporary root.
Even though it is possible in some cases to obtain root access without an unlocked bootloader, unlocking the bootloader is required to permanently root a device.
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My phone is sony xperia xz1 compact
If you root the phone, will this cause a problem with banking financial applications?
is it possible to completely remove the root after that without any problem or I will need to make a new software?
As I can see you've no idea what rooting Android means: it's simply spoken adding SU binary to Android's
filesystem - preferredly put it into RW-mounted /data/local/tmp directory. My recommendation: Become familiar with this, e.g. look inside here.
xXx yYy said:
I know that people around here who claim a temporary ROOT isn't possible at newer Android versions. That this still happens / happened here at XDA doesn't make things true.
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So why not just teach us ignorant noobs and grab the cash?
I didn't even exclude exploits (such as mtk-su) in my bounty, I just limited to a real android device phone or tablet
alecxs said:
get yourself a smartphone and learn the basics. I will pay $ 100 if you show any proof of your magic temporary root.
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@shadyhoo if you factory resetted the device during update, your data is already lost.
You can root your phone after bootloader is unlocked. There might be a way to cheat bootloader and root with Magisk, but still the chances to recover any data is very low to zero. On flash memory the data is discarded right on deletion, recovery tools on file system level won't work because only the emmc flash memory controller (which runs it's own proprietary firmware) knows where the data is located. Only data that isn't discarded yet might be recoverable if it's not too long ago deleted.
It would be possible to get a dump of /dev/block/dm-0 and run extundelete if custom recovery were previously installed. Unfortunately the TWRP for Sony Xperia xz1 compact AFAIR requires custom kernel that supports FOTAKernel partition, boot image must include ramdisk extraction utility extract_elf_ramdisk for installing custom recovery. So this is a showstopper even on cheated bootloader lock.
you can however try to flash magisk patched boot image in EDL mode and see if that passes locked bootloader anyway, if the boot.img is properly AVB signed. if phone is rooted you can dump /dev/block/dm-0 during runtime.
But first clarify how the data was deleted. If a factory reset during the update occured it's absolutely pointless, because once the disk encryption key has changed the data is 100 % unrecoverable.
alecxs said:
So why not just teach us ignorant noobs and grab the cash?
I didn't even exclude exploits (such as mtk-su) in my bounty, I just limited to a real android device phone or tablet
@shadyhoo if you factory resetted the device during update, your data is already lost.
You can root your phone after bootloader is unlocked. There might be a way to cheat bootloader and root with Magisk, but still the chances to recover any data is very low to zero. On flash memory the data is discarded right on deletion, recovery tools on file system level won't work because only the emmc flash memory controller (which runs it's own proprietary firmware) knows where the data is located. Only data that isn't discarded yet might be recoverable if it's not too long ago deleted.
It would be possible to get a dump of /dev/block/dm-0 and run extundelete if custom recovery were previously installed. Unfortunately the TWRP for Sony Xperia xz1 compact AFAIR requires custom kernel that supports FOTAKernel partition, boot image must include ramdisk extraction utility extract_elf_ramdisk for installing custom recovery. So this is a showstopper even on cheated bootloader lock.
you can however try to flash magisk patched boot image in EDL mode and see if that passes locked bootloader anyway, if the boot.img is properly AVB signed. if phone is rooted you can dump /dev/block/dm-0 during runtime.
But first clarify how the data was deleted. If a factory reset during the update occured it's absolutely pointless, because once the disk encryption key has changed the data is 100 % unrecoverable.
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That's what happened to me an error occurred and the phone froze and then rebooted continuously, it never works, I tried to turn it on for a whole day uselessly bootloop continuously ,
I connected the phone. With a pc using sony companion pc program to repair software, app tell me will erase every thing while installing a new software and erased everything, and the phone appeared as a completely new object
through Google backup downloaded applications, messages, etc.,
but personal photos and files do not exist, and this is what I'm looking for
Do I have any chance to get my photos back or is there no chance ?
shadyhoo said:
I connected the phone. With a pc using sony companion pc program to repair software, app tell me will erase every thing while installing a new software and erased everything, and the phone appeared as a completely new object
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This counts as factory reset, therefore no chance sorry.
I'm sad to see so many people get into this position.
Backing up the data to MyMegaApp can be complicated because some of that is stored in /data/data/com.mymegaapp/...
Some of that is stored in /sdcard/Android/data/com.mymegaapp/...
Photos are generally stored in /sdcard/DCIM/Camera and that is trivial to backup.
Photos are probably the most valuable thing you have on your phone.
For Windows user, you can use my adbsync.exe in my sig.
Here is one line out of my "sync" script (actually a makefile):
Code:
adbsync /hscu /s C:\Handy\MotoG storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera
So at the same time I make sure that all my books and guitar transcriptions are on my device I also backup all the photos.
This probably happens multiple times a week.
And of course I backup my desktop too.
Renate said:
This probably happens multiple times a week.
And of course I backup my desktop too.
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This. Or just do not care attitude. I still had that when the 1st mSD died. 2nd was bad, about half year of photos and such went. Still hoping to recover it somehow. Then 3rd one went not so long ago. Windows "fixed" it, but now it has some folder added, with files that I don't what they all are... less than a month of damage this time...
So, like Renate said, take backups and take them often.
Adbsync is really good indeed.
Although the usage instructions might need some more details/examples like above...
(Just like some of Renate's other progs - might... )
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CXZa said:
Although the usage instructions might need some more details/examples like above...
(Just like some of Renate's other progs - might... )
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Mmm, probably guilty. You can always ask though.
I always say that I wouldn't cry if a truck ran over my Android.
That is, as long as at the time the device wasn't in my pocket.
Renate said:
You can always ask though.
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That's not how it works... people just don't realize the potential of your programs that way..
Probably i'm not any better in that though.. lol.
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That's not how it works... people just don't realize the potential of your programs that way..
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Yeah, I probably should add some examples to some things.
Edit: I added some examples and stuff. Happy(er)?
http://www.temblast.com/adbsync.htm
I was looking in the previous days to recover data from the phone and found a lot of programs, most of which require root for mobile and are not free, meaning that if I want to restore some files, I have to root and also format the phone!! And you all say that it is almost impossible to return files after formatting, so what do all these programs that require rooting the phone do?! I do not understand the usefulness of such programs