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Wow,,,, the touch pro forum is saturated with a wide variety of complaints! Can my fellow xda'ers tell me what is the Touch Pro's universal drawbacks? I know that most consider the screen to be a tad small. I think real user insights are much better than "Professional" reviews.
just sold my omnia and got a Touch Pro
I'm totally happy, this keyboard is awesome!
keyboard is the best, 5 rows including a row for numbers.... excellent.
I don't see that many complaints.
Here are the main problems with the Touch Pro:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.
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Here are the main problems with the Touch Pro:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.
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why won't HTC have a ROM update? They offered an update when diamond first came out, I hope they'd offer more updates as TP rolls out in more countries.
100% of that complaint can be fixed with a rom update, those aren't even that many complaints and remember the phone isnt even out yet in the US, most of those complaints originated from users in the US with unlocked european versions that were never meant to be used in the states. Now thats not to say the phone doesn't need work but all those problems could be fixed easily with an update.
I agree that all the complaints could be solved by a ROM update, but I am holding to use it as my primary phone, till a firmware update comes, but I am really disappointed with HTC support.
I am not an USA user...
And I am still using my old P1i as my primary phone, at least the camera works very well, the alarms always work and I don't need to reset it all the time as the Touch Pro.
So maybe the touch pro isn't a fat brick with a tiny screen, a lousy dpad, lagging GPS and half buggy apps? A good keyboard and a high res screen doesn't redeem these issues really.
I sure wish there were something better out there for us. So far a shocking 80% of users are happy.
I am over all very happy with mine, yes it is slow at times and buggy. It will get better over time. My iphone was rubbish I could not restore like I can with my pro. Also having the sat nav is fantastic. I use it purely for emailing, phone and sat nav nothing more and it does them all great.
Well I'm happy with my TP, helped me find this place and managed to pick some great advice and tips up on the way
I think how much you paid greatly affects your satisfaction with the phone. I was very happy with my Fuze, but not happy enough to keep it for the $1,000 I sold it for. When it comes out for $300, it will be well worth the money. It will even be worth the $550 it will sell for without contract with AT&T, but not $1,000.
the mentioned buggy issues in earlier posts are indeed a bit annoying. but overall it is a very nice and goodlooking phone. The keyboard is absolutly brilliant, specialy for me as a former HTC touch user. So, although i am waiting for some updates from HTC, i really am happy with this phone.
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!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
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Either I don't have it or am not noticing it that much.
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4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
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There's a fix for that in that forum.
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3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.
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Why care for support emails when you have a great device?
Hey jamespaulritter, I've started a thread with most frequently TP issues (and solutions/work-around):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2645801
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Because TP out of the box has some annoying bugs. And the fix for this issues should come from htc.
I remember reading somewhere that the Earphone volume was very low and an issue. Surprised no one mentions that in this thread.
I am contemplating buying one once it is available in my country but I want to be doubly sure before I buy one because I will be using it as my primary phone.
I would love to hear your experiences.
Most of the problems dissapear when I disabled touchflo, only thing still there is the gps-lag witch is a big problem.........so I am not very happy.
Best Phone I've Ever Owned...can't Wait For The Hd!
I am very happy with my phone overall. All of the performance issues were solved with a few minor tweaks, I know I will find it even better once i get around to loading up a cooked ROM.
GPS does lag, but there seem to be a number of tweaks to help this and personally i find the gps does work, just not that well. My last phone didn't have a gps. Future roms and cooked roms alike will fix these minor issues, the phone hasn't even been out long, give people some time to work with it.
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Most of the problems dissapear when I disabled touchflo, only thing still there is the gps-lag witch is a big problem.........so I am not very happy.
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That's definitely a software issue, my Fuze had the AT&T ROM and I can tell you it had no GPS lag at all. It was as good as any GPS unit I've ever used, no less a phone.
i really want to buy mate 8 and i love it but i'm afraid from one thing i'm a user that root his phone and use xposed and flash roms
my question is rooting and xposed will work on this phone without problems?
and i think for mate 8 there is no number of custom roms
it is nornal that the phone is new but my question is like after 2 years when the phone stop to recieve update it will be a custom rom for it ? like Cyanogen?
Root yes ,xposed not working, stock ROM is very good with Google now launcher
I don't believe that CM is making ROMs for Mate 8
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Root works, xposed works, no cm ROM in sight but delete a bunch of bloat apps, replace them with Google apps instead, and use layers manager along with theme app for a very close to aosp ROM feel
Have to say, was very anxious to find out how Emui would be in practice. If it would be bloated, ugly, overkill, etc.
But now, after using the device for a few days, can honestly say that I wouldn't want it to be any other way! The amount of things you can change, set or extract techy data from is enormous. Don't want stock Android anymore. Don't want CM13. This is it. Emui rulez! :good:
It's fast, smooth, does it all. No regrets. Can't / won't downgrade to stock/ AOSP / CM
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Root works, xposed works, no cm ROM in sight but delete a bunch of bloat apps, replace them with Google apps instead, and use layers manager along with theme app for a very close to aosp ROM feel
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Many people reported that xposed didn't work.
Did it work with you with any modification ?
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Can you modify the notification panel so it becomes more close to stock Android?
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Can you modify the notification panel so it becomes more close to stock Android?
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As far as i'm aware of no.
My friends bought the phone it's great but there r some issues
1 heat a lot on 4g and games after last update
Notifications problem
Charging while 4g is on is very slow
White dotes on screen
Theme return as it was after changing it
Do u all have similar problems
Because I wanna to buy this phone too
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My friends bought the phone it's great but there r some issues
1 heat a lot on 4g and games after last update
Notifications problem
Charging while 4g is on is very slow
White dotes on screen
Theme return as it was after changing it
Do u all have similar problems
Because I wanna to buy this phone too
Sent from my Infinix X509 using Tapatalk
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Will eagrly wait fro someone to respond. I wnat also to buy it but hearing od soem of the above problems, making me hesitating, sepcially am not so expert in rooting and changing
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Will eagrly wait fro someone to respond. I wnat also to buy it but hearing od soem of the above problems, making me hesitating, sepcially am not so expert in rooting and changing
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Mine doesn't even get warm. There are no dots on the screen either. Having a large battery makes it charge a little slower but mine charges fast if I use the original ac adapter and cable.
hi. i read about camera app taking forever to launch. any similar experience? does using another camera app solve the problem?. also how good is the loadspeaker? im coming from s5>nexus6>note edge and they all have pretty loud sound
Hello everybody, I was wondering if someone could tell me the best mate8 model to buy I will be using it in the usa. I'm using the mate2 now and it is a solid mid-ranger. I have unlocked the bootloader and have cm13 running on it now. I would appreciate your suggestions on the mate8 models and why you pick it. Thanks..
I'm interested in buying a Mate 8 and I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
I know that it has a "Pro Mode" option but I can't find any videos online showing a full indept review of that feature, so could anyone explain/elaborate on that?
Many thanks in advance!
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I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
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No, at least with the current ROM.
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I'm interested in buying a Mate 8 and I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
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Most Raw-capable camera apps you can download from the Play Store won't work as well due to crap implementation on Huawei's side:
Shame, really.
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I'm interested in buying a Mate 8 and I was wondering if you can shoot RAW pictures using the Mate 8?
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If you wish to buy a Huawei phone and need RAW image files, you have to wait for the release of P9 (April 16th) or P9 Plus (May 20th) that both offer this functionality.
Thank you guys for the reply.
That's really sad to hear then. My LG G4 recently died on me with the infamous boot loop problem and I can't get it fixed anytime soon. I might wait for reviews of the new P9 but I do like the Mate 8 as well though. I'd just have to sacrifice RAW function then =/
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I might wait for reviews of the new P9 but I do like the Mate 8 as well though. I'd just have to sacrifice RAW function then =/
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It's not only a matter of RAW vs non-RAW... P9/P9 Plus dual camera has been yet tested by some reviewers and defined a significant step forward compared to Mate 8 (but still worse than Samsung S7).
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It's not only a matter of RAW vs non-RAW... P9/P9 Plus dual camera has been yet tested by some reviewers and defined a significant step forward compared to Mate 8 (but still worse than Samsung S7).
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You are right, there's more to it than just RAW, but having RAW function is usually beneficial as you can process the picture later and not rely solely on the phone's image processor. Although if the phone's image processor is good to begin with then you shouldn't need RAW.
My G4 had RAW and I quite liked it, managed to get some good shots during my holiday before it died on me(luckily it died after my vacation was over, lol).
How is the Mate 8's Pro/Manual Mode? Is it any good?
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How is the Mate 8's Pro/Manual Mode? Is it any good?
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Not very good, no. Yes, lots of options but don't buy this phone for the camera. Much, much better alternatives (like your G4).
Hi,
I have the dual sim version... since a quite long time I am suffering from unbearable lags... I am not sure, which update caused that and for now I am on the latest "41.2.A.7.35".. my symptoms are as follows:
- high RAM usage.
- phone becomes laggy so I know who is calling in couple of seconds after ringing
- switching between apps became impossible (like between GPS and phone call)
- sometimes I open it and I see the applications icons on the screen are refreshing like if I have just restarted the phone.
- i do 4 to 5 restarts per day to make the phone functioning but this is very annoying.
I found another thread in sonytalks about the same... they recommend to turn off google feed which is what I did 5 minutes ago and still don't know the result.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/Very-Slow-processing-what-happen/td-p/1240359/page/4
Do you have an idea, or fix, or shall I simply change the phone?
Thanks,
Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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Same here.
Just sit down and wait for Sony release a new FW.
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seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..
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well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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the problem is that i am not into rooting phones... as u said.. it is really surprising that a flag ship phone is such laggy like that....
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seems i will switch to galaxy s8 after 4 months using xperia xz... my previous phone was galaxy s6+... just thought a change to sony will not be that bad... but i was wrong..
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Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
cocagenda2 said:
well i finnaly managed to get my xz working how it meant to... by unlocking bootloader....rooted.... and then flash latest ftf and andro kernel v28 and then i flashed rytekk`s battery perfomance tweak https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/development/tweak-small-tweak-battery-memory-t3637240 and im happy that my xz really works now...definetly faster,smoother all around then stock non rooted.for me this is only solution...but im asking myself how they cant make a smooth stock non laggy device especialy in year 2017 where chips are so powerfull...and yea someone will say get an iphone but for me an iphone is like having an android phone with kernel enabled constantly to max perfomance with no downscaling LOL no wonder iphones drain so quickly...i just hope that brands will focus on software optimisations in the future and not so mutch about specs but yes at the end this is there strategy how to sell products.
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Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.
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Sad to hear it. I changed from Honor 6X.
Honor is good with their EMUI, and it also has the best fingerprint sensor that I ever used.
But I need a water proof device, so I picked XZ.
Not sure it is a good idea
Good to hear that. So we can fix or wait for SONY fix it. I have no plan to root or flash any custom FW
Wonder why SONY always have good hardware but OS/Software is a true sucker.
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i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...
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i think they dont want to push chips at max just to be on safe side...thats why maybe sony baterries and as a whole device can last mutch longer then Samsung devices...and did u ever heard about exploding Sony device?i still didnt...but if i pay 700e for a device witch is flagship i expect to act like one...why put a sd820 in a device when u dont even use full potencial...lamers...
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Nah ... I just want my device running as fast as it can be.
BTW, removed Messenger Lite and FB Lite, RAM dropped from 2.5GB to 1.8 GB.
I think I should say bye to FB app. :cyclops:
seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance
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seems turning off google feed helped so far... lower ram usage and better performance
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well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens
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well... after one day of testing... i wouldnt say turning off google feed and google now helped that much... it just delays the RAM filling... so the performance degradation will just be shifted and it happens
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Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.
Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.
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Try disabling the app Movie Creator and see if that helps. That was the cause in my XZ.
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Just did that now... i will try and let u know
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Im alergic to lag and what ur experiencig made me so mad that i had to unlock booloader and find solution to it...but as i told before this is not official solution...Sony really needs to consider about that....why we have to root the device to make it usable for our terms....Im looking in to Nokias these days and hope they gonna gonna be good...and my last Sony phone is definetly XZ .Im not looking froward to it anymore.
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same like me... this is my last sony phone ever.... the phone should serve me... not me to serve the phone by disabling half of my apps aiming for a stable performance... this should not be the case
In my case, it seems it was the the latest update of Movie Creator doing something and not related to the firmware itself.
Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.
I've noticed that my XZ started to lag after the July security updates. Maybe it has something to do with that?
Mine was lagging since at least June. Did a full wipe (i'm on stock), lags returns after reinstalling apps.
had the same issue , disable the movie making app that came with the phone ,
last post here : https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ/XZ-Lagging-a-lot/td-p/1227362/page/8
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Having the same issue with my XZ Dual. Laggs are driving me nuts all the time, rebooting doesn't help for long. I have also noticed that my phone usually have loadavg at least as high as 18 all the time (do cat /proc/loadavg in terminal). Pretty overloaded.
The quickest possible way to find our who is slowing device should be running ps or top in termnal. But unfortunatelly they have very limited output without root access. And getting root is such a pain for this device.
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well rooting this device its not even close to pain ...i unlocked also Z5 before without a single problem and also backed up DRM keys and restored also without problem..the same way is for our XZ everything is clear and tested before...i never unlock booloader if there is not no option to lock it back...i check first...but i dont advise u to do that if u dont have experience with adb and flashtool...wish i would not do all of that stuff for my xz but i had to cuz its the only way to get it working smoothly.
Hello guys, Mi Mix 3 just hit the market in my country. I'm interested to know if it is worth it. Do the notifications work as they're supposed to? Are there any bugs that might annoy me?
Thanks in advance.
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Hello guys, Mi Mix 3 just hit the market in my country. I'm interested to know if it is worth it. Do the notifications work as they're supposed to? Are there any bugs that might annoy me?
Thanks in advance.
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Is it the Global or Chinese version? Not that it matters to much, yea for the price point it's absolutely worth picking up....
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Is it the Global or Chinese version? Not that it matters to much, yea for the price point it's absolutely worth picking up....
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I'm pretty sure it's global. I might go and check it out tomorrow how it look and feels on the flesh. I wanted experiences from someone that has the phone. Do notifications work properly. And does it let apps run on the background properly. Is the battery good?
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I'm pretty sure it's global. I might go and check it out tomorrow how it look and feels on the flesh. I wanted experiences from someone that has the phone. Do notifications work properly. And does it let apps run on the background properly. Is the battery good?
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Battery life is on point considering it's a 3200mah cell, I have no complaints, I'm on the EU Rom which is based on the China Dev I believe or China Rom, all is working as intented.
The only little downside for me is the speaker ain't that great , but considering I have the R.O.G everything else pales by comparison.
Everything else is spot on and the camera is decent to, the price point is on point .....so again without a doubt I would recommend the Mi Mix 3.....:good:
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Battery life is on point considering it's a 3200mah cell, I have no complaints, I'm on the EU Rom which is based on the China Dev I believe or China Rom, all is working as intented.
The only little downside for me is the speaker ain't that great , but considering I have the R.O.G everything else pales by comparison.
Everything else is spot on and the camera is decent to, the price point is on point .....so again without a doubt I would recommend the Mi Mix 3.....:good:
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Do you get at least 4-4.5h screen on time?
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Do you get at least 4-4.5h screen on time?
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Battery life isn't an issue
3 things which annoy me about MIUI (which Xiaomi did on purpose) ...
1. Divergence from stock Android behaviour for Notifications. i.e No Status Bar Notification Icons or Expandable Notifications on the Lock Screen. Notifications disappear from the lock screen when you unlock the phone.
2. Smart Unlock only works with Xiaomi products. Google Voice and 3rd party devices can't automatically unlock the phone. Location based unlock doesn't seem to work either.
3. Volume controls for Notifications and Ringtone are combined into a single setting.
Thanks guys, I'm on EMUI now so MIUI isn't an issue
Hey there, first time posting here.
Recently bought this phone, great piece of tech ( the only smartphone under 6.5" worthy of spending money on)
At the beginning the battery was performing poorly, but after the latest July update it has been quite a pleasurable surprise to get great battery life and not having to charge the phone every day. Everything alright till now, untill the phone occasionally started to freeze straight after unlocking it without the possibility to interact with, unless I would lock\unlock it again (really annoying especially when in a hurry).
But the most frustrating (for some weird reason) is the Home app refresh. I'm currently using Nova launcher Prime, and if I return home, it randomly refreshes the launcher looking like there's a memory management issue. Feels like having a really old android phone...
Anyone else having the same problems?
Any fix? (Please don't tell me to switch to the super boring stock launcher).
Thanks for the attention.
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Hey there, first time posting here.
Recently bought this phone, great piece of tech ( the only smartphone under 6.5" worthy of spending money on)
At the beginning the battery was performing poorly, but after the latest July update it has been quite a pleasurable surprise to get great battery life and not having to charge the phone every day. Everything alright till now, untill the phone occasionally started to freeze straight after unlocking it without the possibility to interact with, unless I would lock\unlock it again (really annoying especially when in a hurry).
But the most frustrating (for some weird reason) is the Home app refresh. I'm currently using Nova launcher Prime, and if I return home, it randomly refreshes the launcher looking like there's a memory management issue. Feels like having a really old android phone...
Anyone else having the same problems?
Any fix? (Please don't tell me to switch to the super boring stock launcher).
Thanks for the attention.
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have you tried any other launcher
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have you tried any other launcher
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Godhelpmetofindananswer said:
have you tried any other launcher
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Yes I have, lawn launcher 2. Have you got any suggestion? Cheers
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Yes I have, lawn launcher 2. Have you got any suggestion? Cheers
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how about rooting your phone removing the stock launcher and install the third party one as a system app