Hello team,
as a simple Web Developer (Wordpress, React, Node.js and so on) I am completely excited about Linux On Dex possibility. Currently having Samsung Galaxy S9, which has 4gigs of RAM and it is absolutely not enough - so I am waiting for Note 10 so bad!
Anyway, let's get to my question.
Linux on Dex is a fantastic tool for daily use yet it is not perfect (I know, freaking beta!). Do you think with Note 10 official release will be LinuxOnDex app update released as well? Do you have any info from Ubuntu team, if they work on better Ubuntu image for Samsung Galaxy phones?
It would be so disgustingly awesome if I could just run LOD right out of the box.
Please, share your thoughts!
Kind Regards
Jaroslav the 3rd
get a laptop if you want something perfect!
Jaroslav_III said:
Hello team,
as a simple Web Developer (Wordpress, React, Node.js and so on) I am completely excited about Linux On Dex possibility. Currently having Samsung Galaxy S9, which has 4gigs of RAM and it is absolutely not enough - so I am waiting for Note 10 so bad!
Anyway, let's get to my question.
Linux on Dex is a fantastic tool for daily use yet it is not perfect (I know, freaking beta!). Do you think with Note 10 official release will be LinuxOnDex app update released as well? Do you have any info from Ubuntu team, if they work on better Ubuntu image for Samsung Galaxy phones?
It would be so disgustingly awesome if I could just run LOD right out of the box.
Please, share your thoughts!
Kind Regards
Jaroslav the 3rd
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I am half expecting LoD to come preinstalled. There were rumours about it even running wirelessly a while back, now that would be awesome.
One thing i'd really like is for the Linux container to gracefully autostart and stop with the phone outside of Dex, so I could have my DevEnv permanently running on my phone like a portable server. I could then run a MOSH session from my tablet or desktop, as well as through Dex.
ArmadilloTekCase said:
get a laptop if you want something perfect!
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Care to expand on this comment with something of value?
You can run it wirelessly
skally said:
I am half expecting LoD to come preinstalled. There were rumours about it even running wirelessly a while back, now that would be awesome.
One thing i'd really like is for the Linux container to gracefully autostart and stop with the phone outside of Dex, so I could have my DevEnv permanently running on my phone like a portable server. I could then run a MOSH session from my tablet or desktop, as well as through Dex.
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Hey man,
super happy to meet somebody else who is also so much into Linux on Dex. You can run LOD wirelessly through VNC! On youtube there is a video "Linux On Dex Remote" by MRP - check that out -> I have tried this and works for me. Unfortunately, as I said - I have s9 which does not have enough performance for it.
I expect the update quite soon since Tab s6 was released yet LOD was not updated. Will see, will see
Meh, two more weeks and my hands will be holding Note 10+ 512gigs already, can not wait!
Jaroslav_III said:
Hello team,
as a simple Web Developer (Wordpress, React, Node.js and so on) I am completely excited about Linux On Dex possibility. Currently having Samsung Galaxy S9, which has 4gigs of RAM and it is absolutely not enough - so I am waiting for Note 10 so bad!
Anyway, let's get to my question.
Linux on Dex is a fantastic tool for daily use yet it is not perfect (I know, freaking beta!). Do you think with Note 10 official release will be LinuxOnDex app update released as well? Do you have any info from Ubuntu team, if they work on better Ubuntu image for Samsung Galaxy phones?
It would be so disgustingly awesome if I could just run LOD right out of the box.
Please, share your thoughts!
Kind Regards
Jaroslav the 3rd
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Hey what Bluettooth keyboard and mouse are you using via your S9 ? i just had a quick play on my Tab S4 (4GIG RAM) Linux on Dex it ran pretty smooth! Also where does the bottle neck happen i.e run out of ram ? Are you trying to run wordpress locally ? Also i haven't tried Linux on Dex on my Note 9 (6 GiG RAM) i have just ordered Bluetooth mouse the Micrsoft Arc one! Am not sure what Bluetooth keyboard i should get any suggestions!!
Jaroslav_III said:
Hey man,
super happy to meet somebody else who is also so much into Linux on Dex. You can run LOD wirelessly through VNC! On youtube there is a video "Linux On Dex Remote" by MRP - check that out -> I have tried this and works for me. Unfortunately, as I said - I have s9 which does not have enough performance for it.
I expect the update quite soon since Tab s6 was released yet LOD was not updated. Will see, will see
Meh, two more weeks and my hands will be holding Note 10+ 512gigs already, can not wait!
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I ALMOST ordered the 512GB. I even wanted a black phone. But that Aura Glow is just so unique, I had to get it, and it's only available in 256GB. But honestly, I never even came close to using the 512GB on my Note 9 and only got it for more RAM. Now both variants have the same 12GB RAM. I can add a microSD card, and it saved me $100. The more I see videos of the Aura Glow, the happier I am that I pre-ordered that Cole.
Currently LoD app says "Your device is not supported" on Note 10+ :good:
Might not be as simple as it sounds, but has anyone decompiled the APK your talking about to see if its device restriction is in the AndroidManifest file.
Alter to remove restriction and recompile and test. Am not sure about the App your talking about, i cannot find it.
Any news guys? I got Galaxy Note 10 + but I could not make LoD running. Honestly speaking, I'm a bit pissed by the whole DeX experience so far.
Yer best waiting for a updated app, Modified the App to allow it to run on my device. Loaded a container as with the operating system.
But it fails to boot with just a (Please wait) Loading popup and does not move from there. So regardless looks like it needs updating for proper support.
I have sent two emails to the LoD team @ Samsung, and shocker... they have not responded.
Really hope this is available soon for the Note 10. This is the main reason I got this phone to begin with.
Any update on this? Why is samsung silent?
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Any update on this? Why is samsung silent?
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How long do we have to wait to get this *that should have been live on release day!* going?!?
My best guess is that Samsung blocked support for Linux on DeX after getting into bed with Microsoft and that really sucks. The official response from Samsung is "we cannot speculate on when support might become available" and they have marked the support request as "solved". I call B.S.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsu...beta-1-0-51-android-apk-download/#description
Not sure if this helps anyone. After the APK install just download the image you should be fine.
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Well it looks like the latest APK doesn't like note10! ha just download an older version. From the apkmirror site.
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That doesn't help either
How is linux on dex not compatible with note 10 yet?
Demmetrius said:
How is linux on dex not compatible with note 10 yet?
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Samsung just emailed me:
End of Linux on DeX Beta
Thank you for supporting Linux on DeX Beta. The development of Linux on DeX was all thanks to customer interest and valuable feedback. Unfortunately, we are announcing the end of our beta program, and will no longer provide support on future OS and device releases.
NOTE — Linux on DeX will not be supported on Android 10 Beta. Once you update your device to Android OS 10, you will not be able to perform a version rollback to Android Pie. If you decide to update your device to Android 10 Beta, we recommend backing up data before updating.
Thank you,
The Linux on DeX Team
wm8s said:
Samsung just emailed me:
End of Linux on DeX Beta
Thank you for supporting Linux on DeX Beta. The development of Linux on DeX was all thanks to customer interest and valuable feedback. Unfortunately, we are announcing the end of our beta program, and will no longer provide support on future OS and device releases.
NOTE — Linux on DeX will not be supported on Android 10 Beta. Once you update your device to Android OS 10, you will not be able to perform a version rollback to Android Pie. If you decide to update your device to Android 10 Beta, we recommend backing up data before updating.
Thank you,
The Linux on DeX Team
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Whaaaaaat??? That was the coolest feature of the Galaxy! At least they need to leave the room for developers to create custom containers!
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I rooted my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8010) and I ran Ubuntu on top of android using Complete Linux Installer app
I wanna know if you can install and run ubuntu NATIVELY on the galaxy note 10.1 because I know people have installed ubuntu natively on the Asus Transformer pad, and I dont see why cant this device handle it.
So developers please answer this!!!!
hiruna said:
I rooted my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8010) and I ran Ubuntu on top of android using Complete Linux Installer app
I wanna know if you can install and run ubuntu NATIVELY on the galaxy note 10.1 because I know people have installed ubuntu natively on the Asus Transformer pad, and I dont see why cant this device handle it.
So developers please answer this!!!!
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Hi! I'm also looking for a native build of Ubuntu for the Galaxy Note 10.1 but what I wanna ask you is the performance of chroot. Are you able to type in LibreOffice without a lag? I'm one click away from ordering a device and I really need a full office suite for educational reasons (I'm a student).
What is more, my own hopes are about another way of getting better Ubuntu. The project you use (linux on android) aims to have native video output for some devices and it might be really better than a fully native Ubuntu. The GUI will be fast but at the same time Android will stay one click away with full support etc. What do you think?
hi there,
im a student too. my aim was to buy the TF300T at first. then when i went to the shop, the staff told me that the TF300T batch was full of returns because it was pretty sh**ty So i decided to buy the N8010 (Galaxy Note 10.1)
which is really better than the transformer because it has 2gb ram all the other cool features.like s pen and all that. i wanted to buy the transformer because it came with the keyboard dock which you can turn it into sorta netbook then i could take it to school or something. i was planning on installing ubuntu on it but ye.
so when i got this galaxy note 10.1, i rooted it and ran ubuntu like mentioned about. honestly, there is a slight lag but its not that extreme. only like milisecond(s) lag. *no other apps were running except for terminal emulator, vnc viewer and complete linux installer.
i think this is capable of doing more because literally ran a minecraft server in there LOL it loaded up pretty fast. but i havent connected into it and played yet. youtube video is working. which means it has flash support. my screen protector should arrive today so i can play around more with it. i'll load up ubuntu again. post some screen shots and maybe a video if u need one
the resources manages shows all four cores in the cpu and shows 1.8* of ram. which is good. and more than 1.2gb was available when i was running the office suite that was there.
Summary:
This is good for a start, im hoping to see developers start working on Galaxy Note 10.1 more and more. (i think its just this is still new cuz it only came out recently)
This device is really good for school. Snote app has so many features infact the device has 'samsung features' which i still havent touched on
Hoping to see some thirdparty keyboard docks for this since the samsung one is about 90-100 dollars (USD) i believe and about about 120-150dollars here in australia :/
I think the reason for the transformer pad to have native support cuz asus gave out the source code on their website ? *once i was in there website and it told me to choose the OS between android and other os*
which i belive u can install another os pretty much.
asus also had kinda a bios sorta menu when u boot it up.
hope that helps
if u wanna know anything else, simply reply
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In the case of Transformers, ASUS had open-sourced the bootloader and it was capable of booting something different than Android from scratch. That's a different story for Samsung GN 10.1, but we have a chance for native build since Samsung is developing drivers for the Exynos platform and more or less the bootloader they have is open-sourced or cracked.
As for the OFFTOPIC about learning, thank you a lot for your reply! If you can post a video of LibreOffice typing experience, it would be nice but there are a lot on YouTube already and impression is more important than videos. Personally, I have used on other N-trig tablets LectureNotes (non-free app from market) and Quill(fully open-source) and I find them many times better than S Note.
BTW, once Canonical should release the Ubuntu for Android official project, m?
I think I'll buy one SGN and join you in the battle for better software
I made a video of it
hey,
I made a video of it last night... its in Full HD but dsnt have my voice.(has background music) im still getting used to making videos and putting it up on youtube :
I'll start uploading it now.. theres about 1.01GB so might take some hours to upload
I was watching that video on XDA TV, about Samsung hating XDA, apparently samsung limiting their source codes and all that...I dunno whats gonna happen
anyway wish this was like the asus transformer where you can run other os
we just have to hope for the best :fingers-crossed:
Yes im waiting till ubuntu releases the version for android ! i've seen their official video and its really awesome
Niceee when are you going to buy it ?
P.S. oh sh**t i'm sorry, it wasn't libre office it was open office since i had downloaded ubuntu 10.1 not 12
im pretty sure it would be the same experience with typing...
:fingers-crossed:hoping more people will buy SGN 10.1 and devs will start working on it:fingers-crossed:
video will be at
<<<once its finished uploading.
Slow upload
hiruna said:
video will be at
<<<once its finished uploading.
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What's your upload speed? I want to see the lag and then go to the store, so I'm waiting for your video.
Have seen two guys with SGN in the tram on the way to university, so the popularity comes very fast to the device.
Hello,
Im sorry to tell u this but something went wrong with youtube and it said the video was deleted :S
so im uploading it again. I faxed google and sent them a email but no reply. so uploading again.
upload speed is like 0.40mbps (speedtest) and ye
Its nice to see that its getting popular
Video
May be it would be faster not to upload Full HD? Otherwise, you will be uploading 1 gig my whole life
dam, im sorry
its 41% and about 311 mins remaining..
I'll see if i can let you stream the video from my pc, that way its easier
sorry again....
Hopefully this upload doesnt fail and if it does (hope it doesnt) but if it does i'll upload low quality..
Full hd video :d
HERE YOU GO :
OR
http://www.youtube.com/embed/iut3EivSTB4
:good::good::good::good::good::good:
where can i find this rom? Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8010) [rooted, Stock XSA]
hiruna said:
hi there,
Where can I find this elusive XSA Rom? I want android 4.03 to look as stock as it can and to get rid of that samsung user interface? Does this rom bring the android install back down to stock?
Thanks,
Matt
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Hello,
If you want to root the Stock ICS XSA for N8010, you will have to download the firmware from : http://www.hotfile.com/dl/177420056/592b6c1/N8010XWALI6_N8010XSAALI1_XSA.zip.html and root it your self.
I have attached the rooting files (thanks to zedomax ) and extract the files to a folder. and follow zedomax's instructions.
Hope this helps...
BUT this will not get rid of the Samsung user interface. If you want to get rid of the STOCK SAMSUNG STUFF, you will have to consider flashing CM10
I wrote a tutorial here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958621
thumbs up!
Great news for tablet owners. Ubuntu will support Nexus 7. So Tegra 3 devices first and maybe Exinox later...
I really hope Team Hacksung will jump into this and make out tablet the best device ever. It will be much better then any W8 RT device because of Ubuntu ARM repositories, lots and lots of app (Libre Office, Gimp, VLC..etc).
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7
Wow thanks for this info im looking forward for ubuntu to be come available on my galaxy note 10.1
Any update on this? That is a real shame no one ported Ubuntu to Note 10.1 when there is Ubuntu running even of Asus Transformer TF101. Lack of drivers?
I dont really know honestly. Its just maybe the devs arnt putting much attention to this... WHY ? i dont know. its a great device. better that transformer pad TF300T.... its new.. and 2gb ram and all that. can handle ubuntu very well i suppose. even the nexus 7 got native from Ubuntu officially.. comeon devs!!!
hiruna said:
I dont really know honestly. Its just maybe the devs arnt putting much attention to this... WHY ? i dont know. its a great device. better that transformer pad TF300T.... its new.. and 2gb ram and all that. can handle ubuntu very well i suppose. even the nexus 7 got native from Ubuntu officially.. comeon devs!!!
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I just bought this about a week ago and I am loving it. I am going to college and working on electrical engineering and about to take more c++ classes. Do I have to run Ubuntu natively to use a C++ program, or whast the best way?
dredoggem said:
I just bought this about a week ago and I am loving it. I am going to college and working on electrical engineering and about to take more c++ classes. Do I have to run Ubuntu natively to use a C++ program, or whast the best way?
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It would be better if there was a native distro of Ubuntu for this. Ubuntu running on top of android maybe laggy (with your requirements). I still dont understand why developers arnt looking into this If u have a good internet connection at home you can use Splashtop to stream your pc into the tablet. all the touch features work. Its free for local use but if u want to use it remotely (pc at home and tablet at workplace) theres a membership for it.
hiruna said:
Ubuntu running on top of android maybe laggy
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What is more important - pressure sensitivity of the stylus won't work if it's not running native.
Magnesus said:
What is more important - pressure sensitivity of the stylus won't work if it's not running native.
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I rekon since note 10.1 is abit new they havent made native ubuntu. I got rid of samsungs os and installed cyanogenmod 10 on it. Its jellybean .and way more smoother and faster. Yes pressure sensitivity is working. U can also use the stylus as the cursor (mouse) while hovered on top of the screen without touching the screen. Minor bugs but i use it and i use lecturenotes from the google play for my school... I wrote a tut on how to install cyanogenmod since people couldnt flash that rom thru clockworkmod. Hope this helps
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Hey everyone. I was thinking about this today.
I personally see the mobile phone/ tablet market going the PC route. you can install any operating system providing its compatable with the CPU and the hardware can run it.
That got me thinking. lets say for a minute Microsoft sold a copy of Windows phone O/S and you flashed it via Odin or some other way.
What would be the limiting factors? is it possible?
Its not only about the CPU, What about everything? you will break many stuff.
it would be a good idea to have windows 8.1 in note 3 if the windows phone os gets updated !
It would be a much better idea to buy a Lumia if you want WP 8.1......
1. Lol
2. Not gonna happen. Ever
3. You can't just install an OS like you would on a PC. Windows is windows, closed source, no device binaries for the hardware.
Wrote this S#!t via Samsung Galaxy Note 3 LTE
jjbk said:
Hey everyone. I was thinking about this today.
I personally see the mobile phone/ tablet market going the PC route. you can install any operating system providing its compatable with the CPU and the hardware can run it.
That got me thinking. lets say for a minute Microsoft sold a copy of Windows phone O/S and you flashed it via Odin or some other way.
What would be the limiting factors? is it possible?
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Dont even want Win8 on my pc, let alone on my phone.
Android is so much better, than all the others. So NO i'll fight this idea, with all my power (but that ain't much). :silly:
If it were a linux distro you were talkin about i'd say yes...
I think by the way samsung drive there TouchWiz android we will be like windows even Google courage people to root and miss with it's s branded phone's and nexus branch getting Ubuntu phone and maybe Firefox os I think In the future we will buy just the hardware and load whatever os you wish like DOS shipped laptop's
And regarding hardware I think even the Nokia lumia don't have hardware like our SGN3 so why not
In the end we will get all open source to drive the tech
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Why would you want windows phone? Windows is good as a PC OS, but not as a phone OS.
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This page, from microsoft disagrees.
[EDIT]I want both. I am a developer mainly focused on visual studios. Am to invested in android Apps to 100% dedicate to another OS[EDIT]
NJDubois said:
This page, from microsoft disagrees.
[EDIT]I want both. I am a developer mainly focused on visual studios. Am to invested in android Apps to 100% dedicate to another OS[EDIT]
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That's as a peripheral, not running the os.
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I know, wanted to post here about it but couldn't find the post. Sorry for that!
Windows RT Expander: An expansion of your Windows RT device!
*** Disclaimer ***
These tools were developed by many different people. If I have used your code and you want to change/remove it just PM me. DO NOT COPY AND REPOST THESE TOOLS WITHOUT PMing ME FIRST FOR PERMISSION! Not all the code is mine so I may not be able to give permission.
Behave responsibly and avoid thermonuclear war!
Introduction and FAQ's
What is this project?
This project will be a collection of tools I as well as others have made to expand the capabilities of Windows RT.
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Will it be noob friendly?
It will be as noob friendly as possible. However not right now. See below.
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What stage of development are you in?
Right now I am in alpha stage of development. This means I have some code I have some notes (think notepad, word) and I have some idea's. While in alpha I will mainly be describing how the tools work for me.
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What will the final product be like?
See below
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Will the tools be open source?
Many, many of the files will be in batch which is naturally open source.
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Will this work on other versions of Windows?
Note that most of these tools also run on Windows 8, Windows 7, and both versions of RT that is 8.0, 8.1.
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How can I help?
If you want to help PM me with:
How you think you can help.
What your experience with technology is. (I'm thinking of certification here!)
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Me talking about my experience with RT
I bought a Surface RT with a touch keyboard for $250 on black Friday in 2012 or 2013 I don't remember. I was blown away at how well the device worked but I wanted to expand the capabilities of it. So after a lot of poking around on this site and spending a lot of time I got things to work better. For example:
I wanted to play old Humongous Entertainment games (ScummVM)
I wanted to host a wireless network using the Surface
I wanted to dual boot RT 8.0 and 8.1
I wanted an easy way to enable and disable ICS (Internet Connection Sharing)
I wanted a button that I could use with touch to press esc
Thanks to Netham45 making and clrokr finding an exploit on Windows RT 8.0 we could run recompiled desktop apps (Number 1) so I packed ScummVM and SDL and zlib1 into a zip. Then to use touch in ScummVM while having ScummVM fill the screen you need to do the following:
Move the task bar to the left or right of the screen
Control panel->Display->Custom Sizing options->150%
I wrote a batch file for Number 2. I have a word document explaining what I did for dual boot. I will make a batch file later. For Number 4 I was looking for a 1 click method to enable and disable ICS the Batch file does that. For the last one I used visual basic.
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Where is the stuff?
Link to the OneDrive folder containing my scripts as well as other's scripts customized to suit me(Jailbreak, ScummVM, 7-Zip, Audacity, Wireless Hosted Network, ICS, Esc key presser): Click me
Direct link to My Custom Jailbreak Click me
Direct link to ScummVm and all the required libraries Click me
Direct link to 7-zip Click me
Direct link to Audacity Click me
Direct link to Wireless Hosted Network Click me
Direct link to ICS Click me
Direct link to Esc key presser Click me
Direct link to dualboot OneDrive folder Click me
Link to Netham45's Jailbreak Click me
Link to GoodDayToDie's List of Desktop Apps Recompiled for Windows RT Click me
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What will the final product be like?
Hopefully I have enough support to get to beta then to final. It should:
Be a one click installer that can run on RT 8.0 or RT 8.1
Auto detect your OS (RT8.0 or 8.1)
Ask you full or custom.
If full it will install as much as it can given your OS
If on RT 8.1 it will install:
Wireless Hosted Network
ICS
Keypresser
Dualboot of 8.0 (Just asking you to input the path to install .wim)
If on RT 8.0 it will install:
Jailbreak
7-zip
ICS
Wireless Hosted Network
Keypresser
If custom it will ask what you want to install from a list of tools that can be installed based on your OS
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Windows RT Expander, Tool/Utility for the Windows RT General
Contributors
wcomhelp
Version Information
Status: Alpha
Created 2015-06-23
Last Updated 2015-07-03
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Hi,
That sounds really good. You said "both versions of RT that is 8.0, 8.1.", so that mean JB for RT 8.1??
Thanks!
jesuslg123 said:
Hi,
That sounds really good. You said "both versions of RT that is 8.0, 8.1.", so that mean JB for RT 8.1??
Thanks!
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No, he's using the same jailbreak available for RT 8, hence the reason there's a dual boot option, for 8 and 8.1 so you can switch to 8.1 whenever you don't need to run something on 8.
Hello, that project sounds very nice. It could bring hope to Windows RT users, especially me.
Good luck !
Project Update
Hi everyone,
I have been busy these past few weeks so I have not been able to respond to replys. Sorry. Also I have been working more and more on this project:
I have a vision for the final product to be an auto installing/extracting zip file
I now have some Questions for you guy's:
What do you want to do on your RT's?
Has anybody tested the alpha tools? Like them? What else do you want in them?
Do you want GUI or CMD tools? It is easier to prepare CMD but maybe not as nice looking or good for touch.
I started a dual boot batch flow chart.
Once again thanks for all your support! I need lots to continue this project into beta.
Thanks,
wcomhelp
jesuslg123 said:
Hi,
That sounds really good. You said "both versions of RT that is 8.0, 8.1.", so that mean JB for RT 8.1??
Thanks!
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Like someone else said; nope. You need myriachan's Secure boot disable on 8.1 to JB 8.1. I can, with myriachan's Secure boot disable, load Kernel drivers on 8.1 now so I basically have a JB.
wcomhelp
wcomhelp said:
Hi everyone,
I have been busy these past few weeks so I have not been able to respond to replys. Sorry. Also I have been working more and more on this project:
I have a vision for the final product to be an auto installing/extracting zip file
I now have some Questions for you guy's:
What do you want to do on your RT's?
Has anybody tested the alpha tools? Like them? What else do you want in them?
Do you want GUI or CMD tools? It is easier to prepare CMD but maybe not as nice looking or good for touch.
I started a dual boot batch flow chart.
Once again thanks for all your support! I need lots to continue this project into beta.
Thanks,
wcomhelp
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Support to do it on 8.1
I would like to be able to run it without downgrading. Sadly, I can't downgrade without my files being toast for some reason (onedrive doesn't like them if I downgrade for some reason ) start with CMD tools, and only if people are really bemoaning about how there are no GUI tools, then create them. People aren't complaining about how the jailbreak is CMD and not GUI
waiting for update as a man who have Surface RT everyday.
http://www.cio-today.com/article/index.php?story_id=010000BLCFC4
Myriachan has posted on twitter that she allow XDA Developers who knows the JB for 8.1 to release it 1 week after Windows 10 release date. That could be integrate it into the tool??
https://twitter.com/Myriachan/status/612334963703156736
Thanks,
Jesus.
Yes. When the secure boot disabler is released, I will integrate it into the tools package.
Just letting everyone know I'm still working on this...
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wcomhelp said:
Just letting everyone know I'm still working on this...
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Take your time mate I'm excited, like everybody on this topic, but it's better to have it fully-functional and tested by some volunteers
Hope you will succeed
Dual Booting on 32GB Model
Hey, was just wondering. My surface rt has been doing some solid work for quite some time and I'm rather satisfied with it. Some slow downs and maybe a few freezes, but my main concern is that the os alone takes almost more than half of my entire storage capacity. Would dual booting be unsafe for the 32GB surface rt users?
I dual boot my 32gb surface RT all the time. I've never had the problems you are talking about. Then again I moved my user profile to my 32gb SD ???
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Take your time mate I'm excited, like everybody on this topic, but it's better to have it fully-functional and tested by some volunteers
Hope you will succeed
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Thanks for your support!
jesuslg123 said:
Myriachan has posted on twitter that she allow XDA Developers who knows the JB for 8.1 to release it 1 week after Windows 10 release date. That could be integrate it into the tool??
https://twitter.com/Myriachan/status/612334963703156736
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Now that's the best news I've heard in a long time! And maybe if we're lucky it'll even work with the RT Update that it's getting instead of Windows 10.
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Now that's the best news I've heard in a long time! And maybe if we're lucky it'll even work with the RT Update that it's getting instead of Windows 10.
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Now that's what I call good news !
Almost done dual boot.bat ver 0.1
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Yeah most stuff doesn't work on Linux at the moment but maybe?
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
pedrofssf94 said:
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
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well dang
FoxyDrew said:
Who told you android ports are coming to this tablet? lol glad your optimistic though
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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You do know no one can see that because you would need to be in the discord server that we dont have an invite to lol
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
Nicknackpaddywack101 said:
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Yes, I understand your point. But the fact is that it had Android to start with, with the surface RT you have to use loopholes and bugs to get Linux working in a inefficient way and even the currently working(sort of ) Raspbian based Linux system has a bunch of bugs and missing drivers etc. Power control lacks behind Windows RT (mentiond here:https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/porting-chromium-to-windows-rt.2095686/post-87719273. The sad fact that this device is already 10years old means that it is unlikely people would pay attention to it and use it to develop Android, and even with Android installed the experience would be very limited due to the ram. support would be almost non-existent similar to what happened to the windows phones that got unofficial CM versions. Developers are already moving away from ARM32 to newer ARM64 and a few years later most apps would have a minimum api equivalent to android 6.
There is still a silver lining though. RT devices are dirt cheap since they are almost or practically useless now and Android still has excellent backward compatibility. Anyone who really has interest and the time could pick up the pieces of the Linux project and move on with doing it, but it still would not be easy.
Maybe a crowdfunding project could give devs some incentive?
But for now you could try to run a vm in linux or simply run their linux equivalents. Chromium, firefox, WPS office etc. Raspbian is compatible wih the snap store too, so you could use it just like ubuntu.
I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea, and I really look forward to this project taking off. However, there ultimately is a reason why Windows RT and their RT devices failed to take off.
working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
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working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
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Wow! Nice work! Would be interested to know the team behind this marvelous project. (since you mentioned 'we')
Also probably should embed the boot screen with your team's name...
I can't seem to find any information on this, but I'm curious if the new android 13 will support pKVM like the pixel devices do for the s22 series phones. I've read that 13 is supposed to be released sometime in October, but not many people are talking about the kvm support that's supposed to ship with 13.
From what I understand, Google is implementing this into their new generic kernal images, or GKIs for short. Does this mean that when 13 comes out for Samsung devices, I should have virtualization support right?
Can't find out because I just got my s22 ultra and the beta program is closed now, so I can't join. My phone is also carrier locked so I think that's another reason why.
If anyone knows if the s22 line up with get virtualization support when 13 comes out of beta, let me know cause I'd love to run win11 on my device, since it has as much ram as my win 11 desktop has lol.
While I can't speak to what Samsung plans to leave enabled in their Android 13 kernel build, I will mention that there isn't any emulated GPU acceleration in pkvm, so Windows 11 usability may be really sketchy. I had the same thought as you and was really giving some thought to the new Galaxy Z Fold, but a combination of Samsung possibly stripping out pkvm and the lack of maturity of pkvm as a platform has me holding off for now.
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While I can't speak to what Samsung plans to leave enabled in their Android 13 kernel build, I will mention that there isn't any emulated GPU acceleration in pkvm, so Windows 11 usability may be really sketchy. I had the same thought as you and was really giving some thought to the new Galaxy Z Fold, but a combination of Samsung possibly stripping out pkvm and the lack of maturity of pkvm as a platform has me holding off for now.
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Fair enough, but at least if they don't strip that out, we would be able to run windows 10 because it doesn't rely on GPU acceleration as heavily as 11 does.
From what I seen in the pixel demo, 11 usability doesn't look too bad though
Can we check another device from another manufacturing have already android13 kernel if the pkvm enable or disable can you check with me??
Is there anyone checked pkvm for samsung's android 13?
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While I can't speak to what Samsung plans to leave enabled in their Android 13 kernel build, I will mention that there isn't any emulated GPU acceleration in pkvm, so Windows 11 usability may be really sketchy. I had the same thought as you and was really giving some thought to the new Galaxy Z Fold, but a combination of Samsung possibly stripping out pkvm and the lack of maturity of pkvm as a platform has me holding off for now.
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you can have 3d accel in linux guest
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wait till it works
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Getting started with Protected Virtual Machines
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I don't think samsung fork of android has pkvm support. You should build custom kernel for that.