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Hi. I'm new to this section of XDA but not to the site (as you can see by my join date and post count).
I apologize if this has been asked. I searched a few hours ago and didn't notice anything, and right now search isn't available on the site. I've also been up since 7am with my 5 year old, so please forgive me.
I would like to know if provisioning the phone for the Mango beta update rebrands the device or does anything that would prevent it from getting official updates EVEN IF the device is restored/downgraded back to NoDo from backup.
I'm thinking about when there was an Eclair leak for the Droid Eris a couple of years ago. Everyone flashed it and then later found out that they couldn't get the official update OR downgrade because of it.
It's not the end of the world, but I want to install this beta update without screwing myself out of getting official updates. Even though I enjoy experimenting with smartphones and installing custom software, the convenience of stable, official updates is something I missed while using Android devices for about two years.
Also, has anyone actually tested to make sure that restoring their NoDo backup actually works?
Hey guys,
I think that most of the people "assume" that the B360 is the official Nougat update. But is there any official communication or has anyone received the B360 through a normal OTA update (not through HiCare)?
I have the L04 model and haven't received anything yet, and I just wanna make sure that the B360 is not a BETA to 'Charles' my way to it.
Thanks for your answers.
takichiman said:
Hey guys,
I think that most of the people "assume" that the B360 is the official Nougat update. But is there any official communication or has anyone received the B360 through a normal OTA update (not through HiCare)?
I have the L04 model and haven't received anything yet, and I just wanna make sure that the B360 is not a BETA to 'Charles' my way to it.
Thanks for your answers.
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I got the 360 update through the normal OTA update. Not through high care.
I was on the beta N program and am intouch with some body at Honor UK on Google+
I asked him if the 360 was a beta and he said no it was final !
As people who wasnt on the beta got the same update 360 I think we can say that it was the N update.
I would just wait to get yours OTA as it seems like some folk that have rooted Etc are having issues like rebooting etc
My phone is running very well on the 360.
Just wait you ain't missing no big deal
johnhux7 said:
I got the 360 update through the normal OTA update. Not through high care.
I was on the beta N program and am intouch with some body at Honor UK on Google+
I asked him if the 360 was a beta and he said no it was final !
As people who wasnt on the beta got the same update 360 I think we can say that it was the N update.
I would just wait to get yours OTA as it seems like some folk that have rooted Etc are having issues like rebooting etc
My phone is running very well on the 360.
Just wait you ain't missing no big deal
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Thank you for the informations!
May I ask if you have rooted your B360 ? If yes, how is it working out for you?
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Thank you for the informations!
May I ask if you have rooted your B360 ? If yes, how is it working out for you?
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No mate I hadn't rooted my phone. Can't see the point, I have nothing that I really need the required root at the mo.
In the past I have always rooted my android phones soon as I got them but with this one I thought I would leave it as it is.
It's really worth thinking before you root your phone.
I must admit to having a nexus 5 which is of course rooted and has a different ROM running most days but then there are the custom ROMs to support it.
Perhaps that's why I'm finding it easier to leave my Honor 8 as it is
John
I got the 360 through a normal OTA as well. That too some three weeks ago. On L04.
I was not rooted, nor on beta. Rooted all my previous samsung galaxy phones.. somehow wanted to go with this one with out rooting and so far I'm really not missing anything.
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I got the 360 through a normal OTA as well. That too some three weeks ago. On L04.
I was not rooted, nor on beta. Rooted all my previous samsung galaxy phones.. somehow wanted to go with this one with out rooting and so far I'm really not missing anything.
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Times are changing. I rooted every phone I had and there were a lot of them down to Motorola Defy. And I still believe it was justified, I'd do it again. The original Android was so cumbersome in the past and there were so many better solutions from devs that staying with original system was unreasonable. Not to mention disgusting bloatware. But now, we have AOSP which serves its purpose and EMUI 5 makes it even better in many aspects. And the new functionality appeared with Marshmallow enables disabling unwanted apps cutting them out of any influence to the system and memory.
Yes, 360 is likely EMUI 5, which is equal Android 7.0. But, since Chinese models have 368 already, I think that Huawei is going further as it promised. How far? To Andromeda?
If your phone is bricked, you imperatilevy need to have a SD Card. Put full update on it an install it trough dload method.
When mine was bricked, I didn't found any other way to unbrick it.
Hello, so I can update to B360 through HiCare but I don't know if I should wait until final EMUI 5 because they recommend wiping and then I think I will have to wipe my phone twice... Anybody know if I have to wipe it again when final EMUI 5 comes out if I upgrade to B360 and wipe now?
Hi
I updated to nougat but I have slow Wifi speed. On other android devices on my network I have 80 Mbits but on Honor 8 max is 45Mbits/s.
What are Your Wifi speeds after nougat update?
Best regards
piskr said:
Times are changing. I rooted every phone I had and there were a lot of them down to Motorola Defy. And I still believe it was justified, I'd do it again. The original Android was so cumbersome in the past and there were so many better solutions from devs that staying with original system was unreasonable. Not to mention disgusting bloatware. But now, we have AOSP which serves its purpose and EMUI 5 makes it even better in many aspects. And the new functionality appeared with Marshmallow enables disabling unwanted apps cutting them out of any influence to the system and memory.
Yes, 360 is likely EMUI 5, which is equal Android 7.0. But, since Chinese models have 368 already, I think that Huawei is going further as it promised. How far? To Andromeda?
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Wow, I didn't know that 368 existed, that's a definite information to wait for a normal OTA
Hello,
I posted a question in the official hihonor community:
https://community.hihonor.com/message/10155
It's still not clear that B360 is indeed the official version.
From the reply: "There is no[t] one latest version for the FRD-L09" (sic)
I can only assume that some phones will receive B360, while others might go directly to a newer build. At least there is a confirmation that all the phones (in the UK) will receive the Nougat update, "eventually".
This Honor 8 forum is getting filled with threads asking the same questions! Do people know that there is a search button? Do people know that having 10 threads talking about the same things just pushes "power users" away? it's impossible to follow all threads so it will be more difficult to get help from people who can really help....
piskr said:
Times are changing. I rooted every phone I had and there were a lot of them down to Motorola Defy. And I still believe it was justified, I'd do it again. The original Android was so cumbersome in the past and there were so many better solutions from devs that staying with original system was unreasonable. Not to mention disgusting bloatware. But now, we have AOSP which serves its purpose and EMUI 5 makes it even better in many aspects. And the new functionality appeared with Marshmallow enables disabling unwanted apps cutting them out of any influence to the system and memory.
Yes, 360 is likely EMUI 5, which is equal Android 7.0. But, since Chinese models have 368 already, I think that Huawei is going further as it promised. How far? To Andromeda?
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I think you are a little bit confused, b368 is for Mate 8, not Honor 8! It doesn't mean that Honor 8 will receive a version with the same name or version that other devices have.
ViCioPT said:
This Honor 8 forum is getting filled with threads asking the same questions! Do people know that there is a search button? Do people know that having 10 threads talking about the same things just pushes "power users" away? it's impossible to follow all threads so it will be more difficult to get help from people who can really help.....
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Hello,
I haven't seen another thread asking if the B360 is indeed the official Nougat version for Honor 8, or clarifying it.
Most of the other threads deal with either how to install it via the Charles method, the Firmware Finder app, and there are plenty of threads for bugs and/or bricked phones.
I believe that a thread where it shows the confusion regarding this, instead of jumping into updating with mixed results, has value towards making users understand the implications of possibly installing a "beta" or a "release candidate" on their phone, and may save them time. Burying this information under tons of other questions in a generic "EMUI 5.0 released for Honor 8" is not as helpful.
Not trying to argue with you, I understand that power users might find all different threads difficult to follow, but I don't think it would be any better if everything regarding EMUI 5.0 was consolidated under one single thread with dozens of messages.
In any case, maybe finally Honor representatives would jump in this thread and clarify whether it is the final one or not
supersakis said:
Hello,
I haven't seen another thread asking if the B360 is indeed the official Nougat version for Honor 8, or clarifying it.
Most of the other threads deal with either how to install it via the Charles method, the Firmware Finder app, and there are plenty of threads for bugs and/or bricked phones.
I believe that a thread where it shows the confusion regarding this, instead of jumping into updating with mixed results, has value towards making users understand the implications of possibly installing a "beta" or a "release candidate" on their phone, and may save them time. Burying this information under tons of other questions in a generic "EMUI 5.0 released for Honor 8" is not as helpful.
Not trying to argue with you, I understand that power users might find all different threads difficult to follow, but I don't think it would be any better if everything regarding EMUI 5.0 was consolidated under one single thread with dozens of messages.
In any case, maybe finally Honor representatives would jump in this thread and clarify whether it is the final one or not
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I think the title of this thread Honor 8 Android 7.0 + EMUI 5 oficial released! is quite clear and if took some time to read the following posts you would find that was not necessary to create one more thread speaking about the same thing.
You would also find that not everyone has received or will receive the update at the same time, but eventually everybody will receive it.
ViCioPT said:
I think the title of this thread Honor 8 Android 7.0 + EMUI 5 oficial released! is quite clear and if took some time to read the following posts you would find that was not necessary to create one more thread speaking about the same thing.
You would also find that not everyone has received or will receive the update at the same time, but eventually everybody will receive it.
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I read your thread but I'm sorry to say that there is no mention of an official source that the B360 is official, it's all based on your speculations.
I, and many other users, wouldn't risk and force a BETA or an RC on our phone, thus I created a simple straight-forward thread to know if Honor has announced anything about it, since I haven't found anything.
Maybe there is already a thread of this somewhere already, but I didn't see one, apologies if it is, just thought I'd share my thoughts. Or maybe this is just super obvious so nobody posted about it. Anyway...
So as of the time of this writing they're still accepting people into the Oreo Beta. I only registered my phone about an hour ago (just before midnight, Nov. 1st) in the Samsung+ app and it let me get the Beta, so I imagine all the spots aren't full yet.
To those of you on the wrong carrier (But still in the U.S.) the process is easy! Simply go to this tutorial HERE to flash the unlocked firmware on your device.
After set-up, download the Samsung+ app, and register for the beta. Then, head to "Update" in your settings, and search for updates. It will have to go through *every* update between that firmware and the latest release, before finally downloading Oreo. My phone updated *four times* so be prepared to waste some time.
cadetprewitt1992 said:
Maybe there is already a thread of this somewhere already, but I didn't see one, apologies if it is, just thought I'd share my thoughts. Or maybe this is just super obvious so nobody posted about it. Anyway...
So as of the time of this writing they're still accepting people into the Oreo Beta. I only registered my phone about an hour ago (just before midnight, Nov. 1st) in the Samsung+ app and it let me get the Beta, so I imagine all the spots aren't full yet.
To those of you on the wrong carrier (But still in the U.S.) the process is easy! Simply go to this tutorial HERE to flash the unlocked firmware on your device.
After set-up, download the Samsung+ app, and register for the beta. Then, head to "Update" in your settings, and search for updates. It will have to go through *every* update between that firmware and the latest release, before finally downloading Oreo. My phone updated *four times* so be prepared to waste some time.
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Why do you say non tmo
pro_granade said:
Why do you say non tmo
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Because so far only t mobile and Sprint carriers and g950u1 users can get the beta. Other carriers can't so that's why he said for non tmo and Sprint users
adj998 said:
Because so far only t mobile and Sprint carriers and g950u1 users can get the beta. Other carriers can't so that's why he said for non tmo and Sprint users
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It's closed now, they removed the script to even bring the beta button onto the app, if you use the fiddler thing to make it come up, it makes no difference, and I private glitch I had to get the beta signup to come up doesn't work either.
pro_granade said:
It's closed now, they removed the script to even bring the beta button onto the app, if you use the fiddler thing to make it come up, it makes no difference, and I private glitch I had to get the beta signup to come up doesn't work either.
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That's too bad. I lost beta apparently. I was running TURBO rom and registered then I flashed g950u1 firmware, still had the beta but after 12 hours I never got the update, now I'm back on VZW AQJA firmware and it's gone. Oh well, maybe someone will make a flashforward zip or I cross my fingers and Samsung releases this sometime early next year
Greetings!
I have (2) unlocked Pixel 2's (not rooted) and neither have seen the OTA update to 8.1. Am I the only one experiencing this or are others still waiting for the push? I'm fully capable of grabbing and installing the new images but wanted to see how Google handles these. It seems a bit weird that this has been released but not pushed.
Thoughts?
The pushing out is always done in phases, with just a few getting it in first few days then a larger-scale rollout after that. Some have received it without taking any action themselves, but I think the majority haven't yet.
Large Hadron said:
The pushing out is always done in phases, with just a few getting it in first few days then a larger-scale rollout after that. Some have received it without taking any action themselves, but I think the majority haven't yet.
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Ok.... Thank you. This confirms it isn't that i need to be too concerned with. A phased approach is better in catching problems early on without impacting majority.
Yeah it will take some time to arrive (totally random). If you want to rush this you have two options:
Option a) Download the full OTA and upload it using ADB from the PC to the Android Recovery.
Option b) Now that there's an official OTA from 8.1 DP2 to 8.1 stable. You can try enrolling into the beta, after doing this, there's a chance you receive the OTA to 8.1 stable because Google roll outs the OTA to all the enrolled people when released. If you receive the OTA to 8.1 DP2 unenroll before applying the OTA and keep waiting.
Sent from my Pixel 2
Will it come to rooted phones? And will I lose root after applying the OTA?
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I received my Pixel 2, two days ago and after going through the usual setup, I was offered 8.1 update(size a little over 1GB). Phone came with September patch out of the box. From my previous experience, it may take up to 2 weeks to get the update, but average about 5-7 days.
Large Hadron said:
The pushing out is always done in phases, with just a few getting it in first few days then a larger-scale rollout after that. Some have received it without taking any action themselves, but I think the majority haven't yet.
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thesebastian said:
Yeah it will take some time to arrive (totally random). If you want to rush this you have two options:
Option a) Download the full OTA and upload it using ADB from the PC to the Android Recovery.
Option b) Now that there's an official OTA from 8.1 DP2 to 8.1 stable. You can try enrolling into the beta, after doing this, there's a chance you receive the OTA to 8.1 stable because Google roll outs the OTA to all the enrolled people when released. If you receive the OTA to 8.1 DP2 unenroll before applying the OTA and keep waiting.
Sent from my Pixel 2
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Thank you. I'm trying to be patient on this one. The only reason that I have questioned it is due to not being able to root my phone as is. I'm suspecting that with a fresh update to 8.1 the process steps will work correctly.
It's funny in that all i want to do is to block ads. LOL
That you again for your insites.
Weird. I own a Pixel 2 yet the December OTA offers an update for the Pixel 2 XL. Has anyone else experienced this? Should I avoid the update?
I got the update, something like ~600 MB. I haven't noticed any differences yet aside from the AR stickers in the camera, which are kind of fun.
I have a question in regards to getting the OTA updates.
I'm in Australia and got my pixel 2 xl on a plan with Telstra as they are the exclusive carrier here. But I use a Vodafone sim in the phone.
Will this cause me to not get the OTA updates?
Way too long time passed, and I'm still waiting. This is pretty annoying. Now I enrolled to beta to get it, but still nothing. -.-
Are OTA updates not possible for unlocked and rooted phones?
Everytime I try to install the OTA 8.1.0, my Pixel2 downloads the update and installation fails with the error message installation problems.
don't bother. 8.1 is trash. the battery has gone to complete crap on this phone now since 8.1
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I have a Pixel 7 Pro purchased through T-Mobile. 100% stock, no modifications. Google Play System update is Nov. 1. I am still on the November security patch. Attempting the system update results in ""Your system is up to date" Is this a google problem, TMobile slow update or a phone problem?
T-Mobile I'd imagine. Just use Pixel Flasher or https://flash.android.com
I joined the beta program
BladeRunner said:
I joined the beta program
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How is it? Stable enough to daily drive? I was stuck on the Nov. 22 patch as well until I sideloaded via ADB last night.
Nov 1 is the latest Play System Update afaik, at least thats what the QPR shows....
Google is having problems
This is one of those moments where it's not you it's them is actually true and not gaslighting . Play Updates are not rolling out properly
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I have a Pixel 7 Pro purchased through T-Mobile. 100% stock, no modifications. Google Play System update is Nov. 1. I am still on the November security patch. Attempting the system update results in ""Your system is up to date" Is this a google problem, TMobile slow update or a phone problem?
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Seems you are not alone.
T-Mobile is running way behind on Google Pixel security updates
Timely updates are supposed to be a prime Pixel perk
www.androidpolice.com
Yeah I am on December update very annoyed with Google nothing has changed
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That sucks and should not be the Pixel experience. I would call T-Mobile and ask them why you are on an old update?
I have had decent updates so far but would be rather upset if I had a security update that was older than other OEM as that is part of the reason for getting a Pixel.
Sign up for Beta and you'll get QPR2 Beta 2. In my experience, it is much more fluid and responsive than previous builds. It fixes the scrolling issues and seems to have improved battery compared to the December update.
My wife's P7 still is on Dec update and says it's up to date. I manually flash and root mine, but not about to go to that work for her phone.
Colchiro said:
My wife's P7 still is on Dec update and says it's up to date. I manually flash and root mine, but not about to go to that work for her phone.
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Can't you just adb sideload update.zip without having to even unlock the bootloader?
Full OTA Images for Nexus and Pixel Devices | Google Play services | Google for Developers
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Google provides the means to update it yourself manually easily if you're not willing to wait for your turn. Their tools aren't even that complicated to use. I don't understand the big deal when you have manufacturers like Samsung that can take 3-6 months or longer to update between major version releases, Motorola that updates whenever they feel like it and only gives 2 years of major version updates, and OnePlus that's always behind like 2 months in security updates.
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Can't you just adb sideload update.zip without having to even unlock the bootloader?
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Google provides the means to update it yourself manually easily if you're not willing to wait for your turn. Their tools aren't even that complicated to use. I don't understand the big deal when you have manufacturers like Samsung that can take 3-6 months or longer to update between major version releases, Motorola that updates whenever they feel like it and only gives 2 years of major version updates, and OnePlus that's always behind like 2 months in security updates.
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I could, but it's my wife's phone so I don't want to mess with it. I'd have to pry it out of her hands first.
Colchiro said:
I could, but it's my wife's phone so I don't want to mess with it. I'd have to pry it out of her hands first.
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If she's complaining about it, 10 minutes in your hands beats you hearing about it for however long it takes for the update server to decide it's her turn.
Also mine show November as last play service update (I'm on the beta). Italian unlocked phone
Nov is the latest still for play system. There wasn't a Dec and Jan hasn't rolled out yet
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If she's complaining about it, 10 minutes in your hands beats you hearing about it for however long it takes for the update server to decide it's her turn.
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There's also the indeterminate minutes, if/when something goes sideways...
This is being delayed for un-branded devices as well, such as mine purchased G-Store direct, based on some sort of carrier-block. I'm tempted to go dig through some dev-docs, to see if I can find this (could be an section not published for most, I suppose), but I figure to what end, mostly.
As you mention, easy side-load, but without knowing why this is being blocked for non-TMo (branded, so not gated by their release of their OTA) devices, it's a gamble of sorts...
I just posted in another thread that I think this is an odd situation. I use an MVNO Boost Mobile that uses T-Mobile and I got the update on the 5th. Maybe I got it before they pulled it? Why would they hold the update back to T-Mobile customers but not the MVNO?