Touch latency oneplus 7 pro - OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers

How is the touch latency on the oneplus 7 pro?
I know all the previous oneplus had bad touch response time, is the oneplus 7 pro any better?
I've read in a forum someone complaining about this and as a gamer it's very important to me.
I was going to buy the black shark 2 but I think op is a better phone overall.
I've read somewhere that op 7 pro has 135hz touch polling rate, is it true? I cannot find it on the op website. Obviously I'm not talking about the display refresh rate of 90hz.
Guys let me know your opinions asap please.
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Hank87 said:
How is the touch latency on the oneplus 7 pro?
I know all the previous oneplus had bad touch response time, is the oneplus 7 pro any better?
I've read in a forum someone complaining about this and as a gamer it's very important to me.
I was going to buy the black shark 2 but I think op is a better phone overall.
I've read somewhere that op 7 pro has 135hz touch polling rate, is it true? I cannot find it on the op website. Obviously I'm not talking about the display refresh rate of 90hz.
Guys let me know your opinions asap please.
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I've read the same on a few articles in the past but never seen it in a spec list.

liam_davenport said:
I've read the same on a few articles in the past but never seen it in a spec list.
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Yes, I think is a fake news otherwise it would be on the official spec list.
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well its a modern touchscreen so no theres no latency. i've never had any, ive never seen anyone say they have any. Theres been some updates to adjust the touch sensitivity, but not latency.

None that I know of... It's fast, smooth, high spec's & performance...

At the end I've bought the OnePlus 7 pro...and I have to say that my concerns were unfounded.
This phone is so fast and the touch response is actually very good, I think it's at iPhone level if not better, I don't understand how they can complain about that.
I've compared next to my old phone (pocophone f1) and i was surprised of how much difference there's, the pocophone takes double the time to register the touch and it's very noticeable even the 90hz when scrolling the text is too blurry to read on pocophone while this doesn't happen on the op. I'm very happy about this phone.
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Yes iPhone is at same level of smoothness & even better in some areas even at 60 hz. Imagine iPhone running at 90 or 120 hz ?

RISHI RAJ said:
Yes iPhone is at same level of smoothness & even better in some areas even at 60 hz. Imagine iPhone running at 90 or 120 hz ?
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Scrolling is definitely smoother on OnePlus 7 Pro though

Pocophone users are here as well? Damn they are just spamming everywhere about OnePlus 7 pro. This dude is talking about touch latency on OnePlus phones and he himself uses worst phone ever poco with tons of issues being touch latency on of the major issues on the phone. It is just unbearable to use the phone with such touch latency and there is screen bleeding as a bonus.

sandeep7 said:
Pocophone users are here as well? Damn they are just spamming everywhere about OnePlus 7 pro. This dude is talking about touch latency on OnePlus phones and he himself uses worst phone ever poco with tons of issues being touch latency on of the major issues on the phone. It is just unbearable to use the phone with such touch latency and there is screen bleeding as a bonus.
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Oof

RISHI RAJ said:
Yes iPhone is at same level of smoothness & even better in some areas even at 60 hz. Imagine iPhone running at 90 or 120 hz [emoji7]
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Agree, smoothness is the best part of apple products but I'll never buy an overpriced phone/tablet with a limited os.
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sandeep7 said:
Pocophone users are here as well? Damn they are just spamming everywhere about OnePlus 7 pro. This dude is talking about touch latency on OnePlus phones and he himself uses worst phone ever poco with tons of issues being touch latency on of the major issues on the phone. It is just unbearable to use the phone with such touch latency and there is screen bleeding as a bonus.
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I didn't had any issues with the pocophone... it is one of the best phone I had. The screen was good quality and very accurate colors, bleeding was not even noticeable. Only issue is the notch that hides the notifications that's was big mistake for Xiaomi, because they wanted to copy the ****ty iPhone.
Touch latency was not only a pocophone issue but most of android phone they have bad latency, i had the OnePlus 6 and it had bad latency as well.
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Hank87 said:
How is the touch latency on the oneplus 7 pro?
I know all the previous oneplus had bad touch response time, is the oneplus 7 pro any better?
I've read in a forum someone complaining about this and as a gamer it's very important to me.
I was going to buy the black shark 2 but I think op is a better phone overall.
I've read somewhere that op 7 pro has 135hz touch polling rate, is it true? I cannot find it on the op website. Obviously I'm not talking about the display refresh rate of 90hz.
Guys let me know your opinions asap please.
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"The display at least responds quickly to inputs though, thanks to its low latency, which we measure at 32.5 ms."
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePlus-7-Pro-Smartphone-Review.420598.0.html
For reference:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/9t4eb8/oneplus_6_touch_latency_101ms/
OnePlus 3/3T: around 95ms
OnePlus 5T: 85ms
OnePlus 6: 95ms
Pixel 2 XL: 78ms
Pixel 3 XL: 50ms
Mate 20 Pro: 74ms
Xiaomi Mi 8: 72ms
Oppo Find X: 91ms
iPhone XS: 40ms
Note 9: 51ms

I had issues with my Oneplus One. But I had no issues with my OP3, nor with my 5T and the 7Pro is the fastest phone I ever used by far. So go ahead and buy it if you want.

paatha13 said:
"The display at least responds quickly to inputs though, thanks to its low latency, which we measure at 32.5 ms."
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePlus-7-Pro-Smartphone-Review.420598.0.html
For reference:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/9t4eb8/oneplus_6_touch_latency_101ms/
OnePlus 3/3T: around 95ms
OnePlus 5T: 85ms
OnePlus 6: 95ms
Pixel 2 XL: 78ms
Pixel 3 XL: 50ms
Mate 20 Pro: 74ms
Xiaomi Mi 8: 72ms
Oppo Find X: 91ms
iPhone XS: 40ms
Note 9: 51ms
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On the second link they took the measurements from a french website lesnumeriques.com and on the same website they measured the op 7 pro latency at 59ms that's still a very good value.
I don't know how realistic is the value from notebookcheck as in their reviews they never do that measurement.
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Hank87 said:
On the second link they took the measurements from a french website lesnumeriques.com and on the same website they measured the op 7 pro latency at 59ms that's still a very good value.
I don't know how realistic is the value from notebookcheck as in their reviews they never do that measurement.
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Hi it seems it works very well on touch latency in daily use. But it still a bit lag if you play games (e.g. PUBG), I saw a video comparison between oneplus 7 pro vs iphone xs max.
Have you got the same problem?

gh279760559 said:
Hi it seems it works very well on touch latency in daily use. But it still a bit lag if you play games (e.g. PUBG), I saw a video comparison between oneplus 7 pro vs iphone xs max.
Have you got the same problem?
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No lag on pubg for me. Just the battery drains quickly.
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Hank87 said:
No lag on pubg for me. Just the battery drains quickly.
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thanks to reply. so did you just stop playing while it is out of battery or there is a lalternative way to play pubg while charging (i mean the earphone?)

Ever since oneplus fixed the ghost touch, touch latency is below par. Had to switch to aosip custom rom to improve gaming experience.

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Oneplus 7t pro???

Guys you think oneplus will release 7t pro along with regular 7t this autumn?
If yes this is ridiculous...
What you thing?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7T-Pro-release-date-price-news-and-leaks_id117084
https://gizchina.it/2019/05/oneplus-7t-pro-conferma/
The Power of Oneplus 7 Pro be with you
Yes, it will probably be based off the phone with in screen front camera
Rumors, but looks like OnePlus keeps moving progressively forward. ?
This is good news. But looking more forward to the
8 pro though.
I think they'll give wireless charging & ip rating,Better Camera in the next release
Wish they could have made a version of the 7 Pro with a FLAT display.
I think they will give us 7t pro.
4 phones in 6 months??
The Power of Oneplus 7 Pro be with you
The 7T, 7T Pro, 7T Pro 5G rumors are getting stronger. A possibility of a Spetember end announcement looks tasty.
In comparison to OP7 Pro,
less curvy edges, less slippery back, way better front cam and better rear cams, official IP rating(by paying less to Robert. D. Junior :laugh: ) etc. are in my wishlist.
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I think they'll give wireless charging & ip rating,Better Camera in the next release
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They said time after time no wireless charging.
7T to have 2k res, 90Hz RR, 6.55 inch screen, SD 855+, 3800 mAh battery as per this reliable tweet.
Interestingly it says 7T and not 7T Pro. This looks weird and exciting at the same time because personally I did not like the 7 Pro's size, weight, steep curves and the pop-up cam which will not be the case with the 7T while retaining all the good stuff if it turns out to be true.
This way users will have the choice of two different sizes with little compromises.(if at all).
If 7t will get 90 hz,7 Pro's value will decline drastically
7T & 7T Pro full specs:
(launchdate likely to be Oct. 10)
SOURCE
Edit:
OnePlus confirmed that the launchdate is September 26.(7T atleast)
This is amazing news because I think most of the new camera improvements maybe software and can be ported over to the 7 pro hopefully.
So nothing to write home about. Very minor upgrades. an 855 runs everything already with room to spare.
equlizer said:
So nothing to write home about. Very minor upgrades. an 855 runs everything already with room to spare.
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I think 90 hz in 7t & triple camera will definitely hurt 7 pro.
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I think 90 hz in 7t & triple camera will definitely hurt 7 pro.
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Once the successor gets released, the predecessor's value decreases. This has always been like this.
Only difference is - first time it was of two sizes from OnePlus, hence now two respective successors.
Also, 7T would be a great choice who didn't like the 7 Pro's form factor, weight etc.
Virgo_Guy said:
Once the successor gets released, the predecessor's value decreases. This has always been like this.
Only difference is - first time it was of two sizes from OnePlus, hence now two respective successors.
Also, 7T would be a great choice who didn't like the 7 Pro's form factor, weight etc.
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& New processor too
855+ is not an upgrade to regular 855. And why would OP make their last line moot?
This is a sucky move from OnePlus tbh. The 7t pro is a useless upgrade . And the 7t will basically be the same as the 7 pro. ?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
This is a sucky move from OnePlus tbh. The 7t pro is a useless upgrade . And the 7t will basically be the same as the 7 pro. ?
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It's not about offering a new revolutionary product. It's about staying on headlines and maintain their popularity. They can't go a whole year with a drought of releases just cause 7 PRO owners wont be tempted to buy, we are not the target, but if you needed a new phone, it would be smarter to wait 1 month.

OnePlus 7T or OnePlus 7 Pro which is better?

Hello everyone, I want to buy a OnePlus phone & have to choose between OnePlus 7 Pro vs OnePlus 7T which should I pick? Please help me decide.
It all comes down to your personal preference.
Do you prefer a curved display or a flat one.
You want more battery capacity or you think the new warp 30t charging tech can make up for having a smaller battery..
Do you prefer a notch or you want to wow people with a pop up selfie camera.
Do you feel the slight improvement that the 855+ has is better for you..
Other than those things. Battery capacity, display, notch/pop up.. and charging tech the phones are almost the same and yeah that macro lens..
I'm on the fence on which to buy myself..
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If you haven't seen this review it might help.
https://youtu.be/VWvc_JjefNM
I just want to know how good is OnePlus 7pro's QHD display over OnePlus 7T's full HD?
Sohag0910 said:
I just want to know how good is OnePlus 7pro's QHD display over OnePlus 7T's full HD?
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7 pro's display is hands down one of the best display in the market right now.
If you want 256GB of storage you have to get a Pro. 7T maxes out at 128GB. Also the 7 Pro can be had with 12GB of RAM.
I would also add aesthetics...for me anyway...that back camera circle thing is just plain-ol-UGLY! The 855+ is a non-issue as I highly doubt you will ever see, or experience anything that shows one over the other. All the other arguments previously mentioned may be valid.
P.S. I have the 7 Pro and despite many who disagree with me online...I have tried both screen resolutions, as well as 90 vs 60 refresh rate....and there is just NO difference to me at all! (Let me get my flame suit zipped up here...) I am running all the latest software updates, I have had the phone for several weeks now, I have swapped the various screen settings many times with different apps....and...NO discernible difference!
I have wondered if by some chance the settings do nothing??? Maybe the screen is set to its highest available DPI and refresh rate and switching to the lower settings is not doing anything???
Or, maybe it is the other way around??? That the screen is set on the lowest settings and switching it to the higher settings does not really change anything??? YMMV
But I am telling you that the 7 Pro flies through anything and everything I throw at it. (I do not play games though) So, it is up to you! Boy it sure is getting warm in here.
Also, according to jerryrigeverything, the 7T suffers structural weakness for that ugly camera circle, the 7t he was testing cracked on the first stress test. While i am in no way a fan of the curved screen, i do appreciate a notchless QHD display.
One more thing which may, or may not be an issue for some...the notification slider button is smaller on the 7T than on the 7 Pro.
I would say for now the OnePlus 7 Pro for the win!
I have both. Right now I'm using the 7T as my daily driver. I like the flat edges but the notch is a little annoying since the apps cant use that space.
I would get the 7 pro. The curved edges and bezel less screen is amazing. 7t has an ugly back.
7 Pro also has a better display in terms of resolution.
I bought the 7 Pro about a month ago coming from a pixel 2 XL. The phone is great in every respect. The only thing that bothers me is the weight. This thing weighs a lot. ?
Gordietm said:
I bought the 7 Pro about a month ago coming from a pixel 2 XL. The phone is great in every respect. The only thing that bothers me is the weight. This thing weighs a lot. ?
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Hit the gym buddy
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Hit the gym buddy
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Coming from a pixel 2xl, which OP should I buy?

So I see and read all the videos how disappointing the Pixel 4 series is. I'm thinking of getting a One Plus. I see that there are different varieties of the 7 series . On your suggestion please keep in mind thdt I do like My pixel 2xl size. For a big phone it's comfortable to hold and now too tall. I see that the 7 pro is very tall.
So I'm open to hear what you owners think. Also to stay with Verizon , is the One Plus website the only deal ? Lastly would you know what Google features I'd miss or not get
Thanks!
pbman1953 said:
So I see and read all the videos how disappointing the Pixel 4 series is. I'm thinking of getting a One Plus. I see that there are different varieties of the 7 series . On your suggestion please keep in mind thdt I do like My pixel 2xl size. For a big phone it's comfortable to hold and now too tall. I see that the 7 pro is very tall.
So I'm open to hear what you owners think. Also to stay with Verizon , is the One Plus website the only deal ? Lastly would you know what Google features I'd miss or not get
Thanks!
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Hey man, I also used Pixel 2 XL since it was released. I was disappointed in leaks of 4 XL so I picked up 7 pro about 2 months ago. Size they are fairly similar in size, weight you definitely feel the weight difference with 7 pro bring heavier. Dimensions they are fairly close if you check. I definitely missed all the Google pixel features but a lot of roms have same experience plus more such as omnirom tresk mod. For the display alone is worth moving from Pixel 2 XL to 7 pro I think. Good luck man.
I've had pixels before, then I tried the OnePlus 7 Pro and have never looked back...
You will miss the Pixel quality camera. Works on Verizon really well. Best Android skin ever. Screen is great, speakers good. I have a 2XL and the 7pro. Android user for a long time. First time I can say in 15 yrs I have been looking at an iPhone. Google can't seem to get out of their own way. Pixel 4/4xl is just the latest example. Good luck.
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Hey man, I also used Pixel 2 XL since it was released. I was disappointed in leaks of 4 XL so I picked up 7 pro about 2 months ago. Size they are fairly similar in size, weight you definitely feel the weight difference with 7 pro bring heavier. Dimensions they are fairly close if you check. I definitely missed all the Google pixel features but a lot of roms have same experience plus more such as omnirom tresk mod. For the display alone is worth moving from Pixel 2 XL to 7 pro I think. Good luck man.
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Great info thanks!
1- What about buying?
2-I want to stay with my current line would I better off buying direct from One plus? They have the finance offer.
3- How is their launcher? customization ? At least equal to the Pixel Launcher or close to Nova?
4- What features did you miss from the Pixel?
Thanks
I came from the Pixel 2XL om Verizon network. I've had mine just a few days
1 - Bought mine direct from OnePlus. Guarantee it would work on Verizon network that way. Just make that phone call to switch to CDMA Less.
2 - I pay cash for all my phones. I did see financing on OnePlus site though.
3 - I used Nova Launcher on day one that I bought the Pixel 2, I also used it on the Nexus 6P before that. I'm currently using the Stock launcher on the Oneplus. I can honestly say that the Oneplus launcher feature rich and that I don't miss Nova at all. Probably the only reason I ever really used Nova is because of the stupid Google search bar on the Pixel 2 and 6P. You don't have that problem on Oneplus, You can remove it I would say its closer to Nova to answer your question.
4 - I think the only thing I'll miss is the free original quality uploads to Goggle Photos. The pixel 4 does have the original picture quality upload and no finger print sensor so those 2 things were the deal breaker for me for the price point they are asking for the Pixel 4XL with only 6 GB / 128 GB
I bought the 12 GB / 256 GB version. Gotta love those specs more that anything over the pixel series.
Hope this helps in your decision. Feel free to ask anything else.
Hey Jeff , nice write-up!
I thought that one of the beefs is that the p4 does not upload original photo quality for free.
How would I know if I should get the 7 or 7t?
Plus is it true that it comes with a screen protector out if the box.?
Thanks
pbman1953 said:
Hey Jeff , nice write-up!
I thought that one of the beefs is that the p4 does not upload original photo quality for free.
How would I know if I should get the 7 or 7t?
Plus is it true that it comes with a screen protector out if the box.?
Thanks
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1. i have the 7 / 7T & the 7T Pro, if you're into heavy gaming i'd suggest you pick up the the 7T Pro, if not, the 7 Pro performs really well on the 12GB ram version.
2. Yes, all of the OnePlus 7 devices come with a pre-installed screen protector & a silicon case inside.
If you have more questions, feel free to shoot them my way
Jeff,
What about warranty advice?
Also, do you think my pixel sim would work or do I ned to contact Verizon for a new sim?
Plus, the One Plus website doesn't offer the 12GB ram version yet, only Amazon. . I think I may go for the 8. I can't justify the price and as is I''m going from 4 to 8.
Thanks
I must say... If you rely on a good cam, the OP should be not your choice. Unfortunately.
But if not, everything speaks OP7pro. The screen is amazing, performance great. 90hz ftw!
And i don't think the 7t pro is necessary. Unless you game a lot.
Trinaaa said:
I must say... If you rely on a good cam, the OP should be not your choice. Unfortunately.
But if not, everything speaks OP7pro. The screen is amazing, performance great. 90hz ftw!
And i don't think the 7t pro is necessary. Unless you game a lot.
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I'll be good with the 7 Pro, I'm not a gamer.
Thanks
Did anyone see my last couple questions-
Warranty advice
Can I take my pixel sim and plug it into the OP?
On buying I think I'd go with the 8GB. May this time around to enjoy a little money saving. I'm kind of tired buying super expensive phones. Plus I'd be going from 4 to 8GB.
pbman1953 said:
Did anyone see my last couple questions-
Warranty advice
Can I take my pixel sim and plug it into the OP?
On buying I think I'd go with the 8GB. May this time around to enjoy a little money saving. I'm kind of tired buying super expensive phones. Plus I'd be going from 4 to 8GB.
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What advice do you need regarding warranty ?
Yes you can use your sim on it
Since you're going for the 8GB ram one, If the difference between it and the 7T Pro is not sky high, take the 7T Pro.
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What advice do you need regarding warranty ?
Yes you can use your sim on it
Since you're going for the 8GB ram one, If the difference between it and the 7T Pro is not sky high, take the 7T Pro.
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What advice do you need regarding warranty ? I think none of the plans offer loss or or theft
I decided to swap my Pixel 2 xl on Oneplus 7 Pro 5g and it was serious mistake. Advantages of Oneplus 7 pro in compare to old one Pixel 2 xl are;
- ultra wide angle
- phone is a little more responsive but it's not really something which makes noticeable difference for me. I know that most nerds cannot prevent erection while talking about oneplus 7 performance but I don't share their experience at all
- fast charging is huge improvement especially in compare to Pixel 2XL
However the Pixel 2 XL also has a lot advantages in compare to Oppo Oneplus 7 Pro;
- Absolutely everything else is much much better in Pixel 2 XL. I even prefer Pixel screen because of curved display is probably the worst 'improvement' in smartphones history.
Pixel 2x is much better overall device in my opinion than Oppo op7p. I was able to find out three Oppo advantages over Pixel however if compare to g8s and probably any other flagship it's worth nothing. As example I will compare with LG G8s;
- ultra wide angel in LG is wider and overall camera experience are better mainly while recording
- G8s is still very responsive and in daily tasks the same lightning fast like OP7P
- Faster charging in Oppo is worth absolutely nothing because of limited compatibility with my chargers and it will never replace wireless charging
OnePlus is not water resistant. It's not a problem for me at all in normal circumstances but this phone has quite large gaps not only between frame and back which collect a lot of dirt. It's look terrible and I have never seen that in any other flagship. Overall Oneplus is good phone but it's not flagship. This phone is rather very good mid ranger with flagship soc because everything expect soc, ram and storage is in oneplus far worse than in any flagship phone on market. I regret that I bought this phone. Swapping Pixel 2 xl on Oneplus 7 pro was huge downgrade for me.
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I decided to swap my Pixel 2 xl on Oneplus 7 Pro 5g and it was serious mistake. Advantages of Oneplus 7 pro in compare to old one Pixel 2 xl are;
- ultra wide angle
- phone is a little more responsive but it's not really something which makes noticeable difference for me. I know that most nerds cannot prevent erection while talking about oneplus 7 performance but I don't share their experience at all
- fast charging is huge improvement especially in compare to Pixel 2XL
However the Pixel 2 XL also has a lot advantages in compare to Oppo Oneplus 7 Pro;
- Absolutely everything else is much much better in Pixel 2 XL. I even prefer Pixel screen because of curved display is probably the worst 'improvement' in smartphones history.
Pixel 2x is much better overall device in my opinion than Oppo op7p. I was able to find out three Oppo advantages over Pixel however if compare to g8s and probably any other flagship it's worth nothing. As example I will compare with LG G8s;
- ultra wide angel in LG is wider and overall camera experience are better mainly while recording
- G8s is still very responsive and in daily tasks the same lightning fast like OP7P
- Faster charging in Oppo is worth absolutely nothing because of limited compatibility with my chargers and it will never replace wireless charging
OnePlus is not water resistant. It's not a problem for me at all in normal circumstances but this phone has quite large gaps not only between frame and back which collect a lot of dirt. It's look terrible and I have never seen that in any other flagship. Overall Oneplus is good phone but it's not flagship. This phone is rather very good mid ranger with flagship soc because everything expect soc, ram and storage is in oneplus far worse than in any flagship phone on market. I regret that I bought this phone. Swapping Pixel 2 xl on Oneplus 7 pro was huge downgrade for me.
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Whoa, this is the first negative comments I've seen so far. I'm a bit confused now.
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Whoa, this is the first negative comments I've seen so far. I'm a bit confused now.
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First of all, it's his own opinion, it should not affect what you decide on buying or not.
To simply put it out for you, if you want an AMAZING camera, don't buy the oneplus, if you want a good camera, then go for it. That's for the camera only.
As far as the reply from the guy/girl above, i have really no idea why the negative bash over the OnePlus, i've been a OPO user since their 1st device, and tbh i've never..EVER.. considered any of thir devices a Flagship or a Flagship killer like they say.
The OnePlus 7 Pro and the 7T and the 7T Pro, i have all three, and all three are performing AMAZINGLY for me in all situations, except for the camera, when it comes to taking pics i user another device, but that does NOT mean the OnePlus camera is bad, no, you just cant expect it to perform like the Pixel phones, that is all.
You want the OnePlus to perform super good camera wise? Get the GCam port APK and unleash the camera powers with that
Again, like i said, go for the 7T Pro, since you're aiming for the 8GB Ram 7 Pro, if the price difference is not huge
pbman1953 said:
Jeff,
What about warranty advice?
Also, do you think my pixel sim would work or do I ned to contact Verizon for a new sim?
Plus, the One Plus website doesn't offer the 12GB ram version yet, only Amazon. . I think I may go for the 8. I can't justify the price and as is I''m going from 4 to 8.
Thanks
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1 - I do not have a warranty on mine. You have 30 days after purchase to signup for whatever it is Oneplus is selling. I probably won't get insurance at all.
2 - I just switched my sim from the Pixel 2 to the Oneplus 7 Pro and called Verizon's 800 number and talked to tech support and they did the switch my device to CDMA less over the phone. Took just a few minutes.
3 - I though about going for the 8 myself over the 12. I used my sons student beans discount so I got mine for just a little over $700. If I did have the discount I would have gotten the 8 for sure. Plus buying from Oneplus you can avoid paying tax. That is it or miss on Amazon these days. Far as 7 pro 12 Gig Ram, I see its no longer available on Oneplus web site. They must be out of them.
To answer a few questions from your other posts:
1 - I know can always pay to have your photos upload to original quality to goggle photo/cloud service. But free is free. And it was free on the Pixel 2, lol.
2 - Yes the screen protector comes pre-installed. They also give you a nice clear silicon case as well.
3 - I would of considered the 7T if it came with 256 memory or a Micro SD slot.
4 - Far as that negative review. I would take that with a grain of salt. You show me a new flagship phone and I will show you a negative review, lol.
IMHO, I feel that OP7 Pro is superior to the Pixel 2XL in every way. Even the Camera with its 3 lenses. You won't be disappointed.
To Inpain and JeffBea, Thanks!!!
Now I'm a bit on the fence for the 7T pro or the 7pro.
I'm not a gamer
I want a good camera, but it;'s not a deql breaker.
I'm a performance guy but I'll probably go for the 8 Gig on either model. Can't see spending the extra $200 plus unless you have a serious case to persuade me
Thanks Again,
Rich
pbman1953 said:
To Inpain and JeffBea, Thanks!!!
Now I'm a bit on the fence for the 7T pro or the 7pro.
I'm not a gamer
I want a good camera, but it;'s not a deql breaker.
I'm a performance guy but I'll probably go for the 8 Gig on either model. Can't see spending the extra $200 plus unless you have a serious case to persuade me
Thanks Again,
Rich
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If that 200$ is the price difference between the 7 Pro and the 7T Pro, and you're not a gamer like you mentioned, then go for the 7 Pro

What options exist for small high end pure Android phones now?

I prefer small high end Android phones and was interested in the Pixel 5... but it has gone low end. I love the Pixel software and amazing Google warranty service and don't particularly like the bloated Samsung OS. Are there any other flagship pure Android phones?
It seems like the only options now are the S20. The Oneplus phones seem too big for one-hand use, but I might have no choice. It seems like they are the only ones with stock Android experience. Has anyone here tried Oneplus compared to a Pixel? Any thoughts?
Low end ?!
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Rootax said:
Low end ?!
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The Pixel 5 is the first Pixel to not use a flagship CPU. It has approximately the same processing speed as the Pixel 3.
I liked that the Pixels were small and powerful.
montrealguy said:
The Pixel 5 is the first Pixel to not use a flagship CPU. It has approximately the same processing speed as the Pixel 3.
I liked that the Pixels were small and powerful.
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What exactly do you need more cpu power? Heavy gamer? You certainly won't notice otherwise. Specs are not everything
Considering I've been buying/using nothing but near-stock or stock Android phones the last 8+ years, you don't have many choices as far as name brands go.
Namely: Google, Nokia, Motorola, OnePlus. And whatever Android ONE phones that support your chosen carrier. Google has the best track record for updates. Nokia is also good since their phones are all Android ONE. Motorola has down way downhill for updates since Lenovo took over. OnePlus is hit-or-miss with their updates, also not as often released as Google or Nokia devices.
Rootax said:
Low end ?!
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FHD has been low end and QHD high end for 5 years at this point
haloimplant said:
FHD has been low end and QHD high end for 5 years at this point
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You won't be able to see pixels with 423dpi so? Why do you need higher resolution? Seriously asking why you would trade battery life against this. Except for VR stuff
haloimplant said:
FHD has been low end and QHD high end for 5 years at this point
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i have to set my s20 to 1080p to use 120hz sooooo
Sony Xperia 5 ii? 6 inch screen with 21:9 ratio makes the phone narrow enough to feel small in the hand, near stock Android, 2 year system update, 3 year security update.
NGL, pretty torn between this and the Pixel 5.
Pixel 5 is no low end, I've seen so many reviews and they all claim the same. The 765 can handle everything you throw at it, even the most demanding games.
The 8 series, especially when it comes to phones is to show the public what's possible.. there's maybe a few people out there which actually need so much cpu power, for everybody else the 765 is perfect.
I recently used the 4a and even that one performs really well.
It's all hype and i get it, we all want the best possible but most of us don't need it and I'm glad we start having devices with more mid range specs for a more normal price.
For me personally the Pixel 5 is just perfect.
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What exactly do you need more cpu power? Heavy gamer? You certainly won't notice otherwise. Specs are not everything
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I would agree with this, I just got my p5 a couple days ago and it's soo smooth! The 8gb of memory and 90hz screen coupled with Googles optimization really provide an excellent experience, I've played pubg and genshin impact both without a stutter. add to that the bigger battery over (7hrs sot on average) and it really still feels premium.
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Going from a pixel 2 to the pixel 5, I feel this phone is DEFINITELY not low end. But #s matter to some folks I guess...
Android devices have battery issues that are at the heart of the size creep. Until a manufacturer realizes that most people don't actually give a damn about a couple mm of depth to get a big enough battery to support flagship features, it's just not gonna happen. Everyone knows phones have gotten too big, it's why there is a market for PopSockets.
I've given up on Samsung, I've used every one they've made for years but they are now heavy and bloated phones. The cpu thing, you simply don't notice in real world use and who cares about geeky bench scores
Going back to light and smaller phones with superb battery ( Samsung are battery killers ) is a pleasure
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I've journeyed 1xl, 3xl, 5
1xl and 3xl were "flagships" and the 5 leaves them in the dust.
seriously - once you get to a certain processing power, it's all smoke mirrors and bells.
you're fooling yourself if you don't think the 5 feels flagship
seems a lot of forums have people believing in the "tech reviews" pre launch about how "disappointing" the 5 is... they're wrong
I hammer phones, it's my main work tool and there is no discernable difference in this 5 and other phones I've used
I've just opened Lightoom and opened and closed some 20 meg pics, plus edited a bit, fractions of a second slower yes for sure but it's just a none issue
The true beauty of a smaller lighter phone is something I'd long since forgotten until now
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I had s20 I sold it and I buy pixel 5. Pixel 5 all the way smooth and you will get instant update.
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Don't get me wrong I've enjoyed Samsung phones , but they are heavy , made of glass and full of annoying bloat
Going back to smaller lighter phone that feels so good without a case is a joy
I hate using cases and the Pixel 5 is a joy without one
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Don't get me wrong I've enjoyed Samsung phones , but they are heavy , made of glass and full of annoying bloat
Going back to smaller lighter phone that feels so good without a case is a joy
I hate using cases and the Pixel 5 is a joy without one
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LOL, that's the huge hate I have for Samsung phones, glass. I buy phones to use not pamper or show off.
I don't know of any Android phone that I would consider to be small these days.
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FHD has been low end and QHD high end for 5 years at this point
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FHD isn't low end. QHD is overkill. It's like killing a fly with a grenade.
Pollie81 said:
Pixel 5 is no low end, I've seen so many reviews and they all claim the same. The 765 can handle everything you throw at it, even the most demanding games.
The 8 series, especially when it comes to phones is to show the public what's possible.. there's maybe a few people out there which actually need so much cpu power, for everybody else the 765 is perfect.
I recently used the 4a and even that one performs really well.
It's all hype and i get it, we all want the best possible but most of us don't need it and I'm glad we start having devices with more mid range specs for a more normal price.
For me personally the Pixel 5 is just perfect.
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I have a Pixel 5. I'm relatively happy with it but it is kind of low end.
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Going from a pixel 2 to the pixel 5, I feel this phone is DEFINITELY not low end. But #s matter to some folks I guess...
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I went from a Pixel 2 XL to a Pixel 5 and the Pixel 5 definitely is low end compared to the Pixel 2 XL. I get stuttering and lag on my Pixel 5. It's not terrible but it's noticeable and definitely worse than my Pixel 2 XL. My Pixel 2 XL lasted 3 years really good. The Pixel 5 won't hold up as well as the Pixel 2 XL.

Question OnePlus 9 Pro compared vs Pixel 7 Pro?

Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
The screen on the Pixel is comparable to the 9 Pro. It's got a peak of 1500 nits when on auto. I have zero issues seeing it in the sun.
I didn't have a 9 Pro, I had a 9, but the speakers on the 7 Pro are way better. The 9 had basically no bass to speak of and the 7 Pro has a moderate bass response. It travels through the back of the phone and makes it vibrate in your hands a bit which was unnerving for me at first but the quality is definitely excellent as that was a chief complaint I had about my 9.
I'm loving the fact that apps don't just randomly refresh for no reason. I can swipe away from Chrome and do something without worrying about the page refreshing when I come back. RAM management was always really annoying on OOS12 and would often result in me being unable to log into my accounts because I would swipe away to get my 2FA code and the page would reload. Happy to say that I can actually play games on this thing and come back to what I was doing hours later and it's still there.
The camera is way better on the Pixel side if you like the point and shoot idea. The OnePlus is better if you like to tweak things although I think eventually we will get a nice GCam port that adds all that functionality back to the Pixel as well. I have not been disappointed with a single picture I have just randomly snapped with the Pixel whereas the OnePlus I never trusted it to get it right on the first so I took 3 or 4 and checked them out later.
Battery life for me has been better than my 9 but this seems to really vary for people and comes down to how you use the phone. I thought I would miss the rapid charging of the 9 but in reality I only have to charge once every 19-26 hours so it's a moot point and I can get 50% in 30 minutes which will get me through whatever I need to do where I won't have access to a charger easily.
EDIT: Actually, from looking up display tests, the Pixel should be much better than the 9 Pro. Without auto brightness the 9 Pro maxed at 500 nits. The Pixel achieves 1000 nits full scene brightness without auto.
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The screen on the Pixel is comparable to the 9 Pro. It's got a peak of 1500 nits when on auto. I have zero issues seeing it in the sun.
I didn't have a 9 Pro, I had a 9, but the speakers on the 7 Pro are way better. The 9 had basically no bass to speak of and the 7 Pro has a moderate bass response. It travels through the back of the phone and makes it vibrate in your hands a bit which was unnerving for me at first but the quality is definitely excellent as that was a chief complaint I had about my 9.
I'm loving the fact that apps don't just randomly refresh for no reason. I can swipe away from Chrome and do something without worrying about the page refreshing when I come back. RAM management was always really annoying on OOS12 and would often result in me being unable to log into my accounts because I would swipe away to get my 2FA code and the page would reload. Happy to say that I can actually play games on this thing and come back to what I was doing hours later and it's still there.
The camera is way better on the Pixel side if you like the point and shoot idea. The OnePlus is better if you like to tweak things although I think eventually we will get a nice GCam port that adds all that functionality back to the Pixel as well. I have not been disappointed with a single picture I have just randomly snapped with the Pixel whereas the OnePlus I never trusted it to get it right on the first so I took 3 or 4 and checked them out later.
Battery life for me has been better than my 9 but this seems to really vary for people and comes down to how you use the phone. I thought I would miss the rapid charging of the 9 but in reality I only have to charge once every 19-26 hours so it's a moot point and I can get 50% in 30 minutes which will get me through whatever I need to do where I won't have access to a charger easily.
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
Also, I got the 9 Pro too, and the camera doesn't even come close to Pixel 7 Pro's.
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
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I may have to look into this. It seems like Google made the camera even less functional than it was on the 3 XL from the settings department. I've been happy with the output but sometimes I would like more control.
I have both coming from 9 pro. You can definitely see the pixel 7 pro screen in sunlight. The nine pro also is pretty good. Couple thing to note that stands out to me, the pixel screen feels/appears a little bigger to me, I believe mainly due to screen curve with the 9 pro having much more curve. The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million. I still prefer the pixel though for the record, since the 9 pro and Color Os saga when Android 12 came out. Also the pixel camera obviously is pretty hard to beat for double click power button, point and shoot. The pixel has been pretty nice except for the charging speed.
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The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million
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The Pixel supports HDR10 which means it supports 1.07 billion colors as well. SDR is limited to 16.7 million but HDR is not.
Samuel Holland said:
I have both coming from 9 pro. You can definitely see the pixel 7 pro screen in sunlight. The nine pro also is pretty good. Couple thing to note that stands out to me, the pixel screen feels/appears a little bigger to me, I believe mainly due to screen curve with the 9 pro having much more curve. The one thing that surprised me was the pixel screen being rated #1 Android screen on DXO_Mark, since the screen does look nice, but I think as far as colors, etc, the nine pro has pixel beat with ability to produce, I believe, 1 billion colors, and the pixel like 17 million. I still prefer the pixel though for the record, since the 9 pro and Color Os saga when Android 12 came out. Also the pixel camera obviously is pretty hard to beat for double click power button, point and shoot. The pixel has been pretty nice except for the charging speed.
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To point out the statement regarding "saturation" on OP9 Pro compared to Pixel 7 Pro. Keep in mind that "higher" saturation doesn't equal "better". Pixel 7 Pro is above OP9 Pro in terms of display for various reasons, one of them and one of the most important one is the color accuracy. If you need saturation, you can always use a third-party app to boost it. Same as it was done on OP9 Pro through the "Wide-Gamut" display setting.
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The Pixel supports HDR10 which means it supports 1.07 billion colors as well. SDR is limited to 16.7 million but HDR is not.
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To point out the statement regarding "saturation" on OP9 Pro compared to Pixel 7 Pro. Keep in mind that "higher" saturation doesn't equal "better". Pixel 7 Pro is above OP9 Pro in terms of display for various reasons, one of them and one of the most important one is the color accuracy. If you need saturation, you can always use a third-party app to boost it. Same as it was done on OP9 Pro through the "Wide-Gamut" display setting.
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Thanks for pointing this out, that makes sense now, and I was wondering about this. Overall I've been pretty happy w/ the pixel and I have increased the saturation.
I would say the Pixel 7 Pro is a far better phone in every way. The only thing I am missing is the silent, vibrate physical button. I get 5G pretty much everywhere. Pixlel 7 Pro gets 5G in places my OnePlus 9 pro couldn't. Im back on Nova Launcher after 3 Oneplus phones I didn't really need. Pixel needs it to remove Google search bar.
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Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
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Easily the Pixel 7 Pro is easier to read
I have both and frequently switch between the two.... Gaming is better on the 9pro obviously... The fit in hand is better on the 9pro and this is a big deal to me... I also like the build better as the screen doesn't feel so hollow... Speakers edge out to the 9pro... Standby drain edge out to the 9pro as well... I shoot RAW when I can, so the camera isnt that big of a factor for me but the 7pro is great for dim, quick shots...
There are some differences with smoothness including this website on Firefox... The 9pro is consistently smoother... It gets choppy more often with the 7pro...
The 9pro also stays cooler ... Dunno what this really means though, maybe it's just better at "hiding" the heat whereas the 7pro let's the heat expand out...
These differences are very close... The 9pro just got OS13 and seems much better than 12...
If I were to pick between the 2, I'd stick with my 9pro because of fit in hand AND the super fast charging... Too convenient...
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Anyone here coming from the OP 9 Pro?
I'd like to know which screen is easier to read under direct extra-bright sunlight.
And which has louder, fuller sounding speakers?
Anything else you think is interesting to note as a difference.
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I went from OP 8T + and decided against the 10 Pro in favor of the Pixel 7 Pro. It's a great phone designed around real world performance ignoring benchmark performance. It's like the only phone that runs 2 main cores with a 2+2+4 setup when all other phones run 1 big core. Screen is excellent, especially brightness
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I went from OP 8T + and decided against the 10 Pro in favor of the Pixel 7 Pro. It's a great phone designed around real world performance ignoring benchmark performance. It's like the only phone that runs 2 main cores with a 2+2+4 setup when all other phones run 1 big core. Screen is excellent, especially brightness
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I made the mistake of getting a 10 pro before my 6a. Worst experience ever. I wasexcited to see it finally being sold in the us, but of course the moment it was oneplus murders their os
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FYI, fully functional GCAM is already there since the phone came out. Check the Gcam from BSG, there is even a "dedicated" group for the Pixel 7 series and Gcam including a few people who made config and lib. Of course, Gcam already performs FAR better than the stock Google camera.
Also, I got the 9 Pro too, and the camera doesn't even come close to Pixel 7 Pro's.
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I've found 8.6V10 Gcam, but havent found any great configs for it. What is the link to the dedicated group?
Twilightsparklez said:
I made the mistake of getting a 10 pro before my 6a. Worst experience ever. I wasexcited to see it finally being sold in the us, but of course the moment it was oneplus murders their os
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I understand, I've been a OnePlus fan since their creation. The concept behind the company was a true flagship killer concept. Sadly by the time the 9's hit they went down the drain. I'm really happy with my Google Pixel 7 Pro, but the slow charging is a bummer
OnePlus software was ahead of its time.
But the hardware was behind the times (IMO) until the 9 Pro.
But that was the same time they went out of date with software.
I used to have the 9 pro, but I sold it. Its battery was horrifyingly bad (maybe the device was faulty). The vibration was weak and the speakers were OKish (no bass and depth just loudness).
As someone mentioned above, I can confirm that the camera was hit or miss with heavy colour saturation.
Furthermore, I liked more the curved screen of the Oneplus, the front camera placement and the extremely fast battery charging. Also, I was getting better cellular reception on the Oneplus 9 pro, maybe due to its modem and support of 5g in my country.
So far I'm enjoying almost every aspect of the Pixel 7 Pro. For the initial price bundled with the pixel watch, I think it was the best deal currently available for new premium android.
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I understand, I've been a OnePlus fan since their creation. The concept behind the company was a true flagship killer concept. Sadly by the time the 9's hit they went down the drain. I'm really happy with my Google Pixel 7 Pro, but the slow charging is a bummer
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A 9 might've been a better choice from the start then a 10 since it was before their whole "pay to unbrick" nonsense. But i guess oneplus helped me find a good phone in a way by being the first ever one i returned. I feel a llittle dumb getting something soo expensive when i could get comparible preformance for 300 dollars instead of oneplus's laughable 700 or 800 dollars
I bought Pixel 7 pro today. Im reverting back to my OP9. I couldnĀ“t find a way to pass safetynet on
GP7. I have full root and passing on my OP9 A13.
i will return the Pixel tomorrow, sadly.
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I bought Pixel 7 pro today. Im reverting back to my OP9. I couldnĀ“t find a way to pass safetynet on
GP7. I have full root and passing on my OP9 A13.
i will return the Pixel tomorrow, sadly.
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I never knew you could even pass it without usnf. Aren't all 0hones nowadays hardware verified or whatever? I don't even care if i pass personally since i use websites for banking and avoid gpay because it failed me. One too many times (unrooted)

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