I just received my Sony D6603 Xperia Z3 from my carrier which is Rogers. Is there a way to fully unlock the device as if it was purchased as an unlocked version? I've tried searching for answers, but only came up with how to unlock the bootloader and rooting instructions. Unless, if by doing those methods, will fully unlock my device including SIM lock. Any help and insight would be greatly appreciated.
Depending on Roger's terms you should be able to have them unlock it. Appears you have to wait 90 days though.
http://www.rogers.com/web/support/wireless/unlock/733?setLanguage=en
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Why do I have to wait 90 days before I can unlock my device?
Your device has been optimized for use on the Rogers network. You may find that some settings or features do not function properly once the device is unlocked and in use with another carrier's SIM card. We want to ensure that you've had the chance to experience the full capabilities of your device on the Rogers network before making the decision to unlock.
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
gregbradley said:
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
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If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Once your device is sim free (using code) it will remain unlocked no matter what you do
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
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Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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There is no unofficial bootloader unlock for this device. Its done through sony's official method or not at all.
If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
To get root access you do not need to be SIM unlocked. The only way to gain root acces on the Z3 currently is to unlock the bootloader, which you cannot do even if Rodgers SIM unlock it
The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
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That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
Flava0ne said:
That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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Yes, there have been some posts that some people have managed to do this with some carriers, but I am very sceptical as to this actually happening.
So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
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That may be coincidence, I believe that Sony made a tactical decision to stop unofficial methods by allowing some devices to be unlocked officially. This saw an almost immediate stop in devs working on unofficial unlocks as you could always get hold of a device that could be unlocked officially and for free. They basically took the need of an unofficial unlock out of the equation.
If Rogers could do that, it really makes me wonder what kind of tool/program that they use to accomplish this.
Probably something similar to Emma or just fastboot and adb. I really do not know that. The problem is they know the keys, without them it needs a good dev to find a vulnerability and write an exploit. That takes time and skill. And since there is an official method there seems no need to spend that time, as people with that skill just get themselves devices which can be unlocked
My 3rd day now with my new Z3 and I'm really missing having root access.
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Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
Sim unlock has nothing to do with root, so sim unlocking will not give you the ability to remove system apps.
msxghost said:
Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Is there some sort of beginners guide/explanation/walkthrough you can point me towards? I've never had an Android before, so I have no idea what I'm doing and I don't want to screw anything up.
Hi everyone. I just won a Google Pixel. The contest was on a tech site and prize was provided by verizon. The phone package doesn't show verizon on it at all. Is there a way to tell if it is verzion locked? Also what does it mean if it is? Will I not get the updates when they go out? I am currently with T-Mobile and my phone before is a Nexus 6P. I haven't rooted or flashed a phone in years. Doesn't mean I'm not willing. Just thought I'd post and see if I could get some advice on what to do next with my Google Pixel. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
When you get the phone, reboot it to bootloader mode and use fastboot from your pc (obviously connect phone to computer first) and run the command: fastboot oem unlock
If it unlocks then you're money. If not, it's prolly Verizon and if that's the case try to figure out what software is on the phone (pray that it's an old phone somehow) before they fixed the bootloader workaround.
uodii said:
When you get the phone, reboot it to bootloader mode and use fastboot from your pc (obviously connect phone to computer first) and run the command: fastboot oem unlock
If it unlocks then you're money. If not, it's prolly Verizon and if that's the case try to figure out what software is on the phone (pray that it's an old phone somehow) before they fixed the bootloader workaround.
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It won't unlock that way no matter what version if he doesn't hit the slider first.
OP:
You will get updates from google if it does not have a Verizon sim in it. If it does they come from Verizon. The Verizon version of the software has some tweeks for their network, nothing more.
To find out if it is unlockable hit the developer options and find 'oem unlock' if you can slide it to allow oem unlock it is a Google version. That will not unlock it, that will allow you to then do what the poster above said...and that will unlock it.
You must have an internet connection to use the slider. That can be just with wifi if you want. It phones home to see if it is allowed to unlock. And that is the only difference between a VZ version and a Google version. It is in the data base to be unlockable or not.
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It won't unlock that way no matter what version if he doesn't hit the slider first.
OP:
You will get updates from google if it does not have a Verizon sim in it. If it does they come from Verizon. The Verizon version of the software has some tweeks for their network, nothing more.
To find out if it is unlockable hit the developer options and find 'oem unlock' if you can slide it to allow oem unlock it is a Google version. That will not unlock it, that will allow you to then do what the poster above said...and that will unlock it.
You must have an internet connection to use the slider. That can be just with wifi if you want. It phones home to see if it is allowed to unlock. And that is the only difference between a VZ version and a Google version. It is in the data base to be unlockable or not.
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I forgot about that in the developer settings. It's been a while since I did that. Good catch.
Thanks. Unfortunately the oem unlocking option isn't available. So I should be able to just pop my T-mobile Sim in and have no issues?
GeekyWilliam said:
Thanks. Unfortunately the oem unlocking option isn't available. So I should be able to just pop my T-mobile Sim in and have no issues?
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Yep, you will be all set. And updates will come from google.
About phone...what version of N is it on? Dont let it update until you answer that. If it is lower than 7.1.1 you can unlock it still.
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
It is 7.1. Thanks again!
GeekyWilliam said:
It is 7.1. Thanks again!
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Hit it now. You don't have to full unlock but depixel8 it and get the slider done before it updates.
Ok. I'll do it now. Once I depixel8 then I can get the updates?
GeekyWilliam said:
Ok. I'll do it now. Once I depixel8 then I can get the updates?
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Yea, you can finish the unlock later after it updates. But be aware the next step in unlocking will wipe your phone. So you may want to get it over with.
Hey everyone,
I bought a second hand Pixel phone and it came with the bootloader locked. I was wondering if I would be able to unlock it.
I have been reading a lot about that and I was able to check using the adb tool that my cid version is VZW_001 and I have the OEM unlock option (under the development menu) greyed out. I am currently using android 8.0 and I do not use Verizon since I live in Brazil.
In light of that, I have two more questions:
- Oreo does not have any specific build for verizon, right? I was only able to find the 'other carriers' image.
- Is it possible that I do not have the 'OEM unlock' option because I am using this new version of android that is only for those enrolled in the Beta program?
Regards,
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Henrique
That's a Verizon version of Pixel, which means bootloader locked.
Edit: unless you have a brand new, never been activated one... https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
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That's a Verizon version of Pixel, which means bootloader locked.
Edit: unless you have a brand new, never been activated one... https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
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I've read on this thread.
What I am curious about is whether you guys that have got a Pixel directly from google, and updated to this new release, have this 'OEM Unlocking' option available?
henrique.mageste said:
I've read on this thread.
What I am curious about is whether you guys that have got a Pixel directly from google, and updated to this new release, have this 'OEM Unlocking' option available?
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I got my phone straight from google, have since received an Oreo OTA update, and have this option grayed out. However, underneath it says, "bootloader is already unlocked" (which it is). So that makes sense.
You probably have the Verizon version, which requires an exploit to unlock.
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I got my phone straight from google, have since received an Oreo OTA update, and have this option grayed out. However, underneath it says, "bootloader is already unlocked" (which it is). So that makes sense.
You probably have the Verizon version, which requires an exploit to unlock.
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Interesting, this means that I do have a Verizon phone. Hope we can find a exploit that bypass it. I would really like to root my phone. ; )
Thanks you all.
I had the oem unlock open before 10 update now its updated i cant get it ungreyed any help would be Apreciated
Does it say bootloader already unlocked under the OEM unlocking tab by any chance. It will go greyed out if unlocked, mine is.
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Does it say bootloader already unlocked under the OEM unlocking tab by any chance. It will go greyed out if unlocked, mine is.
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No it is not unlocked
Fair play mate, thought I'd throw that out there just in case.
I see you was asking on the Verizon bootloader unlock thread also so hopefully you get it unlocked again.
Good luck
ok so I have got a moto g pure (XT2163DL) with a tracfone bootloader and ive accepted that I cant find anyway so far to get my unlockable bootloader unlocked. I have looked and tried everything I could find without using a paid service which is probably what I need to do or just get another phone but first I have one more idea but I just dont know if it is even still possible or not. Can I use the cyanogenmod installer on my phone and unlock my bootloader and then switch back and keep an unlocked bootloader? Im running android 12. My oem unlock switch is not greyed out and it is set to unlock and even though I have tried using fastboot oem unlock and it said it was successful , it wasnt really unlocked afterall. motorola site just says my bootloader cant be unlocked. Is this a viable option?
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motorola site just says my bootloader cant be unlocked. Is this a viable option?
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So why wasting time with this?