I just received my Sony D6603 Xperia Z3 from my carrier which is Rogers. Is there a way to fully unlock the device as if it was purchased as an unlocked version? I've tried searching for answers, but only came up with how to unlock the bootloader and rooting instructions. Unless, if by doing those methods, will fully unlock my device including SIM lock. Any help and insight would be greatly appreciated.
Depending on Roger's terms you should be able to have them unlock it. Appears you have to wait 90 days though.
http://www.rogers.com/web/support/wireless/unlock/733?setLanguage=en
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Why do I have to wait 90 days before I can unlock my device?
Your device has been optimized for use on the Rogers network. You may find that some settings or features do not function properly once the device is unlocked and in use with another carrier's SIM card. We want to ensure that you've had the chance to experience the full capabilities of your device on the Rogers network before making the decision to unlock.
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
gregbradley said:
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
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If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Once your device is sim free (using code) it will remain unlocked no matter what you do
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
gregbradley said:
Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
Flava0ne said:
Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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There is no unofficial bootloader unlock for this device. Its done through sony's official method or not at all.
If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
To get root access you do not need to be SIM unlocked. The only way to gain root acces on the Z3 currently is to unlock the bootloader, which you cannot do even if Rodgers SIM unlock it
The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
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That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
gregbradley said:
The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
Flava0ne said:
That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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Yes, there have been some posts that some people have managed to do this with some carriers, but I am very sceptical as to this actually happening.
So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
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That may be coincidence, I believe that Sony made a tactical decision to stop unofficial methods by allowing some devices to be unlocked officially. This saw an almost immediate stop in devs working on unofficial unlocks as you could always get hold of a device that could be unlocked officially and for free. They basically took the need of an unofficial unlock out of the equation.
If Rogers could do that, it really makes me wonder what kind of tool/program that they use to accomplish this.
Probably something similar to Emma or just fastboot and adb. I really do not know that. The problem is they know the keys, without them it needs a good dev to find a vulnerability and write an exploit. That takes time and skill. And since there is an official method there seems no need to spend that time, as people with that skill just get themselves devices which can be unlocked
My 3rd day now with my new Z3 and I'm really missing having root access.
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Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
Sim unlock has nothing to do with root, so sim unlocking will not give you the ability to remove system apps.
msxghost said:
Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Is there some sort of beginners guide/explanation/walkthrough you can point me towards? I've never had an Android before, so I have no idea what I'm doing and I don't want to screw anything up.
I have rooted my Z3 today and it seems I cannot unlock the bootloader on this device, it says no on service menu. Is anyone able to suggest another way to get past this? Am I correct in guessing it's EE (UK) who supplied the phone who decided to lock the bootloader?
Frazer Scott said:
I have rooted my Z3 today and it seems I cannot unlock the bootloader on this device, it says no on service menu. Is anyone able to suggest another way to get past this? Am I correct in guessing it's EE (UK) who supplied the phone who decided to lock the bootloader?
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If it says no then you cannot unlock it
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I've been trying at this for a couple days now,no success but no brick either Every phone I've owned up to this one I've been able to root and flash recoveries and custom roms as I pleased but this phone been tricky for me so I need someone here maybe to tell me my next move... So I called TMobile and I got the rep to give me a permanent unlock for my phone and I checked the Tmobile unlock app and its says permanently unlocked ...So my question now is since I cant seem to get the adb to "fastboot oem unlock" to change the device state to unlocked in the bootloader without asking me for my unlock code ,how to I get this to work? Is the next step requesting the unlock code from Oneplus because I have all the info for the form for Oneplus but don't know how to find unlock code for the form.... Help me out guys ... Thanks
bfreshdadon said:
I've been trying at this for a couple days now,no success but no brick either Every phone I've owned up to this one I've been able to root and flash recoveries and custom roms as I pleased but this phone been tricky for me so I need someone here maybe to tell me my next move... So I called TMobile and I got the rep to give me a permanent unlock for my phone and I checked the Tmobile unlock app and its says permanently unlocked ...So my question now is since I cant seem to get the adb to "fastboot oem unlock" to change the device state to unlocked in the bootloader without asking me for my unlock code ,how to I get this to work? Is the next step requesting the unlock code from Oneplus because I have all the info for the form for Oneplus but don't know how to find unlock code for the form.... Help me out guys ... Thanks
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You now need to convert to Int. version, you can't "fastboot oem unlock" on T-Mo version without a stupid unlock token! Follow these instructions ===> https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947
So I called TMobile and I got the rep to give me a permanent unlock for my phone and I checked the Tmobile unlock app and its says permanently unlocked
After this, you need to enable OEM unlock. See here.
Once you have enabled OEM Unlock under developer options, the fastboot oem unlock will work.
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You now need to convert to Int. version, you can't "fastboot oem unlock" on T-Mo version without a stupid unlock token! Follow these instructions ===> https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947
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Thanks man,,gonna try that...
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So I called TMobile and I got the rep to give me a permanent unlock for my phone and I checked the Tmobile unlock app and its says permanently unlocked
After this, you need to enable OEM unlock. See here.
Once you have enabled OEM Unlock under developer options, the fastboot oem unlock will work.
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Thanks man...Gonna check it out ..
I had the oem unlock open before 10 update now its updated i cant get it ungreyed any help would be Apreciated
Does it say bootloader already unlocked under the OEM unlocking tab by any chance. It will go greyed out if unlocked, mine is.
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Does it say bootloader already unlocked under the OEM unlocking tab by any chance. It will go greyed out if unlocked, mine is.
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No it is not unlocked
Fair play mate, thought I'd throw that out there just in case.
I see you was asking on the Verizon bootloader unlock thread also so hopefully you get it unlocked again.
Good luck
I have a TracFone moto g pure (XT2163DL) running android 12, build number S3RHS32.20-42-13-2-1. I managed to get my oem unlock to show up and turned it on. First I tried using the Motorola unlock site to unlock my bootloader but it said it wasn't eligible. So then I tried using fastboot command "fastboot oem unlock" and a screen popped up telling me I can choose to unlock my bootloader and when I told it to unlock I received a message saying it was successful. But it isn't. It said it's unlocked but yet it is still locked anyway. I know TracFone has problems unlocking bootloader's but why would it let me get that far if it is impossible to unlock? Is there anything else I can do? If anyone knows something else I can try please point me in the right direction. I don't mind doing my homework after all that's how I learn but I'm just at a point where I need some guidance.please help me and always thank you so much for your time in advance...
If the bootloader reports unlocked, what makes you say it's still locked?
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If the bootloader reports unlocked, what makes you say it's still locked?
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Nothing is wiped and it still says OEM secured on the fastboot page. The only difference now is when I try to reboot back into system it will first boot back into the bootloader again and then it will boot into system when I reboot a second time