Hi there,
this isn't strictly a M5 S Plus question but I am debating buying one.
My needs are quite simple:
- the phone needs to be rootable
- xposed needs to run on it
- the best camera I can afford and when I talk about a good camera I am looking at Samsung S7/S8 for comparison.
So I looked at the new MI 6 and it has a dual 12mp camera with OIS but only 1.25 µm pixel size and apparently the dual cameras are not being used to combine a picture with qualcomm's clearsight rather its 2 cameras with different angles aka 27mm and 52mm you can use to zoom and other gimmicks, not really contributing to the picture quality.
I then looked at the MI 5 PRO and it seems to have an even smaller 1.12 µm pixel size but instead it has OIS.
Alternatives which popped up are the MI 5S which has a single camera but with 1.55µm pixel size which is one of the biggest on the market and obviously the MI 5S Plus which is the only one using qualcomm's clearsight with dual 13MP cameras but a very small 1.12 µm pixel size
On the cheaper end there is the Xiaomi Redmi Pro although I couldn't find anything about its pixel size.
So after hours of reading reviews and pixel peeping I thought I'd ask for some users feedback, maybe someone has used one or two of these cameras and can give some real feedback on their quality?
Oppomart listed the oneplus 6 with some amazing specs here: https://www.oppomart.com/oneplus-6-phone.html
Could these be the official specs of the upcoming OnePlus 6 ?
joosef93 said:
Oppomart listed the oneplus 6 with some amazing specs here: https://www.oppomart.com/oneplus-6-phone.html
Could these be the official specs of the upcoming OnePlus 6 ?
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From this website:
The all-new Oneplus 6 comes with a dual 20MP+16MP Sony camera sensors that work together when you take a shot. The standard RGB sensor captures color details and information, whereas the dedicated monochrome sensor provides a higher contrast, captures more light,and reduces image noise. So now shots taken with Oneplus 5T is clearer, better, and more vivid.
Note how it talks about the OnePlus 5T
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rav101 said:
From this website:
The all-new Oneplus 6 comes with a dual 20MP+16MP Sony camera sensors that work together when you take a shot. The standard RGB sensor captures color details and information, whereas the dedicated monochrome sensor provides a higher contrast, captures more light,and reduces image noise. So now shots taken with Oneplus 5T is clearer, better, and more vivid.
Note how it talks about the OnePlus 5T
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Except the fact that 5T doesn't have a monochrome sensor, it had a low light sensor IMX 376K which is BS and never proved to be good. The primary camera in 5T is Sony IMX 398 here it was mentioned as Sony IMX 518 So it maybe true since the R15 uses the same sensor. A monochrome or wide angle sensor is very much welcome than the telephoto sensor.
Ratheesh6 said:
Except the fact that 5T doesn't have a monochrome sensor, it had a low light sensor IMX 376K which is BS and never proved to be good. The primary camera in 5T is Sony IMX 398 here it was mentioned as Sony IMX 518 So it maybe true since the R15 uses the same sensor. A monochrome or wide angle sensor is very much welcome than the telephoto sensor.
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I will be honest and say I don't know too much about how different sensors come together (monochrome, telephoto, low light ect) to get the best photos.
I'm looking at a review of the R15 Pro and that also seems to have a 16mp main camera and 20mp secondary camera. On the R15 Pro the secondary camera is the same as the OnePlus 5T which might not bode well for the OP6. The review I'm reading (GSM arena) does however say that the camera, selfie camera (a 20mp one) are pros of the R15 Pro but does say the 20mp secondary camera is mostly PR and that 1080p videos are pretty aweful.
It looks like the OP6 will have a vertical configuration for the cameras where the R15 Pro uses a horizontal configuration. I believe based on the recently released camera samples, they are talking about the secondary camera being a telephoto one so the setup might be slightly different to the R15 Pro. Lastly, the camera app itself is different between Oppo and OnePlus so let's hope all of these potential differences add up to a better camera experience than the R15 Pro which itself isn't supposed to be a bad camera setup anyway.
I think ultimately, we aren't going to be getting 960fps slow mo videos or a camera setup that will come anywhere close to the Huawei P20 Pro but maybe it will be good enough to be in the pack getting to call themselves "good camera".
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Would u all like to see the flip camera return or go back to the regular front facing camera for the next Zenfone? I'm sure the next Zenfone will be announced in a few months I'm still happy with my 6 but not sure about the camera. According to rumors they got rid of the flip camera. I did love the flip camera for panorama shots and motion tracking I thought those were great ideas.
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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sedp23 said:
Would u all like to see the flip camera return or go back to the regular front facing camera for the next Zenfone? I'm sure the next Zenfone will be announced in a few months I'm still happy with my 6 but not sure about the camera. According to rumors they got rid of the flip camera. I did love the flip camera for panorama shots and motion tracking I thought those were great ideas.
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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No: I prefer a notch especially because I miss face unlock.
I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
SlinkyMalinky said:
I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
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I agree
SlinkyMalinky said:
I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
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Silly?
LOL is someone working for Asus making these threads? Zenforum, XDA, Reddit. My understanding is the flip cam was expensive to make, makes the phone expensive to repair, and is the 6 is the worst selling Zenfone. If those facts are true, I highly doubt the next Zenfone will have a flip cam.
My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
KickerTom said:
My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
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Manufacturers are working on under display cameras.
KickerTom said:
My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
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Same for me. I virtually never use the face cam and the fact that it cannot be activated without me knowing about it is a huge benefit.
So yes, zenfone 7 with a flip cam would be great (but please use an OLED display).
I prefer it but I rarely use it.
Hell Yeah.. I love the flip screen instead of loading a phone with cameras, helps save some money as well getting a super selfie camera.... will be glad if asus added waterproof phones and a wireless charging as well instead of spending on too many cameras
Zenfone 6 is unconvincing in year 2020 - fringerprint in the back, low freq display, slow USB, slow UFS, behind in 2 generations of cpu. So it's a no from me but it caught my interest for vanilla OS, battery, SD, jack. Since Zenfone 7 will have a notch, literally destroying one of 2 highlights of the phone, i consider this model series dead to me.
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Zenfone 6 is unconvincing in year 2020 - fringerprint in the back, low freq display, slow USB, slow UFS, behind in 2 generations of cpu. So it's a no from me but it caught my interest for vanilla OS, battery, SD, jack. Since Zenfone 7 will have a notch, literally destroying one of 2 highlights of the phone, i consider this model series dead to me.
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Eh, I don't know about all of that. This device is pretty solid, and USB speeds for transferring aren't bad. Display gets the job, UFS 2.1 is nice to have instead of emmc, and the CPU is still great for the price.
Flip not Bad rarely use it but
<500$ price
Big Display ( Great LCD since OLED BUrn IN )
MIcro SD Express Card
Headphone Jack or Two USB ( Both for Audio & Charging ) Like Rog 2 Better
32 Bit Audio & Surround Sound
True Stereo Speaker
Minimum 8GB Ram
108, 64, 64, 64 MP Camera
SD865
kk454347 said:
I agree
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Me to
sedp23 said:
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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Absolutely yes. I'm considering getting a successor to the Zenfone 6 whenever it comes, but I'll only do it if it still retains this mechanism.
1. This alleviates some privacy issues of always having a camera pointed at you, not knowing if it's recording or not.
2. Selfie quality obviously is a huge factor.
3. Pano shots
4. rear fingerprint unlock is anyway faster than face unlock, and more importantly more reliable
This is the USP.. why wouldn't I go with so many other options otherwise...
Please retain the flip front camera!
Other requests: Change the screen to AMOLED. Add a tele lens as well.
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Manufacturers are working on under display cameras.
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This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
supertory said:
This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
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I would not like either option. In fact, I am happy about having no camera facing me all the time...
supertory said:
This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
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Same.
The whole reason for the Zenfone 6 was the uniqueness of the flip camera. It's time to improve the camera, add a larger sensor, a better IPS display(many manufacturers are going back to IPS LCD these days, so it'd be great if they use a better quality IPS screen), and keep just 1 model with 2Gbps LTE, and 4 or 5Gbps 5G NR instead of model A, model B, model C.
Asus had a lot of production problems last year. I hope that's not the same this year too.
Zenfone 6 came in the news on 3rd April last year. It's already 5th April, and no news of the Zenfone 7. I hope they don't disappoint us by launching it with a notch, or a front facing selfie.
So I have my P40 Pro over a week now and a have been experimenting a lot with the camera, that is fantastic. I have noticed that when I taking photos at 5x but focusing very next to me the phone uses the main camera and not the dedicated 5x module and as I point the phone to a distance subject I can see the camera 'jump' to the 5x dedicated module. Is just my P40 Pro or is this a normal thing?
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So I have my P40 Pro over a week now and a have been experimenting a lot with the camera, that is fantastic. I have noticed that when I taking photos at 5x but focusing very next to me the phone uses the main camera and not the dedicated 5x module and as I point the phone to a distance subject I can see the camera 'jump' to the 5x dedicated module. Is just my P40 Pro or is this a normal thing?
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Yes,it's normal. The 5x can't focus too close,it's made for distance. Different lens.
I have a OnePlus 5T with bad Bluetooth reception as if putting it in my pocket or with a hand over the top of my device the connection will break with smaller devices. Is there anything in my developer options that I can use to increase the poor connection strength? There's a lot of options relating to this that I have never touched and if they can help my connection issues that'd be great but it is likely a hardware flaw.
Not sure, but have you checked over in the OnePlus 5T forums
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