90hz "all the time" mod - OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers

So I read about the mod through ABD that allows to force 90hz but all I find are negative comments on how it'll kill battery life and everything. I can't find any real reviews from people that actually are using the force. Can we get any input here please

Enough info to be found in the other two threads.
Why a third one. Plus, simply try for yourself, each person's usage is different :good:

Pfeffernuss said:
Enough info to be found in the other two threads.
Why a third one. Plus, simply try for yourself, each person's usage is different :good:
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Like to thread if possible. The XDA app sucks for searching.

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Like to thread if possible. The XDA app sucks for searching.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/guide-force-90hz-app-game-uncaps-fps-t3940071
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/screen-refresh-rate-t3938576

lg3FTW said:
So I read about the mod through ABD that allows to force 90hz but all I find are negative comments on how it'll kill battery life and everything. I can't find any real reviews from people that actually are using the force. Can we get any input here please
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I did nothign different today and used the JOneplus tool and you can switch it on the fly back to auto, 60hz or forced 90hz for all apps. SOOOO EASY. It's in the play store. No need for the ADB commands with a PC.
That said I am seeing less than 1% difference of SOT drain per hour. Before the 90hz forced all apps I was getting about 6.1-6.3% drain per hour of screen on time and that was with 90hz auto. With 90hz forced all apps I saw 6.9% drain per hour of screen on time 19% drain over 3:21 of SOT. I'm getting that percentage from AccuBattery. I use Auto brightness with EX Kernel and High Brightness Mode app set to auto as well and I only ever use LTE, never WiFi.
The negative comments are of people that are scared to try it and have no clue what they are talking about. They are scared so they should just get a dog IMO.

Eric214 said:
I did nothign different today and used the JOneplus tool and you can switch it on the fly back to auto, 60hz or forced 90hz for all apps. SOOOO EASY. It's in the play store. No need for the ADB commands with a PC.
That said I am seeing less than 1% difference of SOT drain per hour. Before the 90hz forced all apps I was getting about 6.1-6.3% drain per hour of screen on time and that was with 90hz auto. With 90hz forced all apps I saw 6.9% drain per hour of screen on time 19% drain over 3:21 of SOT. I'm getting that percentage from AccuBattery. I use Auto brightness with EX Kernel and High Brightness Mode app set to auto as well and I only ever use LTE, never WiFi.
The negative comments are of people that are scared to try it and have no clue what they are talking about. They are scared so they should just get a dog IMO.
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I'm not rooted so the jtool doesn't work for me sadly. But thank you for the feedback. I'll be trying this soon. So what gather from your experience is that it's worth it? I leave my phone in power save mode 90% of the day anyhow to easily restrict background data and syncing. TIA for all input

lg3FTW said:
I'm not rooted so the jtool doesn't work for me sadly. But thank you for the feedback. I'll be trying this soon. So what gather from your experience is that it's worth it? I leave my phone in power save mode 90% of the day anyhow to easily restrict background data and syncing. TIA for all input
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I will be staying with the 90hz all apps. I never use battery save mode so this is all just with the phone regular. So, yes, I would say this is definitely a win! And why aren't you rooted. Life only starts when rooted. Hurts nothing, Oneplus doesn't void warranty either

Eric214 said:
I will be staying with the 90hz all apps. I never use battery save mode so this is all just with the phone regular. So, yes, I would say this is definitely a win! And why aren't you rooted. Life only starts when rooted. Hurts nothing, Oneplus doesn't void warranty either
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I'm on the verge of rooting my phone, but widevine certification is stopping me. I wish there was a way to keep L1 even after rooting.

Jenishpat said:
I'm on the verge of rooting my phone, but widevine certification is stopping me. I wish there was a way to keep L1 even after rooting.
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Yeah, The only real app that I need to worry about L1 is with Netflix and I really never watch Netflix on my phone. If I will need some entertainment I'll watch YouTube (1440p) or just move a movie from my PC library onto the phone for local playback. I have no problem with YouTube, ESPN.com or my Slingbox app Slinplayer (NOT Sling TV) which streams my local TV to my phone in 1080P

Eric214 said:
I will be staying with the 90hz all apps. I never use battery save mode so this is all just with the phone regular. So, yes, I would say this is definitely a win! And why aren't you rooted. Life only starts when rooted. Hurts nothing, Oneplus doesn't void warranty either
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Tell ya truth I didn't want to reset phone. That's main reason for no root. Lol
I've always rooted all my phones until I got my G6 2 years ago and I kinda lived without it for 2 years and besides gravity box I didn't see much need for root truly. But thanks in advance for reply looks like I'll be rooting this weekend anyhow.. IMO beside CM9 back in the day there's never been a custom Rom that I'd ever run. So mostly debloat and gravity box truly. but I guess this being my 1st OP device I must do it.

lg3FTW said:
Tell ya truth I didn't want to reset phone. That's main reason for no root. Lol
I've always rooted all my phones until I got my G6 2 years ago and I kinda lived without it for 2 years and besides gravity box I didn't see much need for root truly. But thanks in advance for reply looks like I'll be rooting this weekend anyhow.. IMO beside CM9 back in the day there's never been a custom Rom that I'd ever run. So mostly debloat and gravity box truly. but I guess this being my 1st OP device I must do it.
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Yeah I hear ya. This is why I root my phone after a boot it up and put in my gmail account and BOOM rooted, and then set everything up.

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Looks like I'll have to bring my charger to work..

So I got the s8+ two days ago and I gotta say, I'm not that impressed with the battery, my nexus 6p was more reliable.. Just got home from work and had ~17% left with 3.5h sot. This means that when I get home from work I'll have to charge my phone for half an hour atleast before I can go out and enjoy my spare time, I can't just go out straight from work
Anyone have any pointers?
Some key notes, no wifi at work (working within the government in Sweden is retarded)
And the 4g is pretty weak.
Brightness is around 50% and I have disabled bixby and 100 other services (package disabler)
Played games for like 1h
Some browsing, no video watching
Nobody called me during the say because I'm an asshole
That's pretty much it
Two days isn't really a good test to see what the battery life will be like. Especially since you are installing apps and setting up the phone.
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I suggest use a black theme to save battery, as AMOLED screens doesn't need much power producing black color.
Also in the bottom of Battery settings, there's "always sleeping apps". Add all apps here that you don't need running in the background.
Also disable mobile internet if not needed, or at least turn on data saver.
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Katt50 said:
Two days isn't really a good test to see what the battery life will be like. Especially since you are installing apps and setting up the phone.
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BratPAQ said:
I suggest use a black theme to save battery, as AMOLED screens doesn't need much power producing black color.
Also in the bottom of Battery settings, there's "always sleeping apps". Add all apps here that you don't need running in the background.
Also disable mobile internet if not needed, or at least turn on data saver.
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Yeah im happy both of you responded to me, I do realize that 2 days is way too soon to judge the battery, and I am not going to do so, you are both right and I did follow the advice you posted, got all the apps I don't need running in the background etc! Thanks guys, let's see if I end up with more %tomorrow after work
WOW! I wonder what's draining you so quickly? I'm getting right at 7hrs SOT with no WiFi and marginal cell service at work!
You must've disabled an app that keeps pinging the system. Try to enable all apps and go from there. You shouldn't have to disable anything. Just watch for resource hungry apps like Facebook or Snapchat
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WOW! I wonder what's draining you so quickly? I'm getting right at 7hrs SOT with no WiFi and marginal cell service at work!
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guaneet said:
You must've disabled an app that keeps pinging the system. Try to enable all apps and go from there. You shouldn't have to disable anything. Just watch for resource hungry apps like Facebook or Snapchat
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Yeah im not enjoying this.. it's been 3 hours, barely used the phone and im down to 80% already (30 min sot)
I renabled everything in package disabler again, won't be using it untill people get more comfortable and researched in the subject of matter.
4g signal is pretty bad at work though, and these idiots dont have wifi lol. (getting like 1-2 bars)
Maybe it was package disabler causing the problem, if you disable something which something else relies on it might constantly try and connect to the disabled package causing battery draining
if you do continue to have a poor experience i definitely suggest using a pure black theme, This will boost your SOT buy a few hours minimum
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Maybe it was package disabler causing the problem, if you disable something which something else relies on it might constantly try and connect to the disabled package causing battery draining
if you do continue to have a poor experience i definitely suggest using a pure black theme, This will boost your SOT buy a few hours minimum
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I did re-enable all apps within package disabler again in the morning, im at 65% now thats 5h battery usage and 1.5h SOT.
How are people getting 8-9 hours SOT... HOW
also I am using a black theme atm, it's the "high contrast" on samsung theme store
I appreciate the help
You may have a dud. I'm coming from a 6p too and I usually have about 30% batter at the end of the day when I was shutting down right before leaving. I run a dark substratum theme with brightness at 35%. I get 6hrs but I stream video and game off and on.Give it a few days and if things don't improve try a new one.
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I did re-enable all apps within package disabler again in the morning, im at 65% now thats 5h battery usage and 1.5h SOT.
How are people getting 8-9 hours SOT... HOW
also I am using a black theme atm, it's the "high contrast" on samsung theme store
I appreciate the help
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Hey man. I had this same issue when i bought my phone. Apparently my phone wasn't going into deep sleep mode. Install an app called CPU spy and you'll be able to see if you're phone isn't going into deep sleep due to an app. If your phone is going into deep sleep but you still have battery drain like that. It could be a defective device. Btw the issue I had was facebook app. I disabled it and now I'm getting at least 8:30 hours sot.
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You may have a dud. I'm coming from a 6p too and I usually have about 30% batter at the end of the day when I was shutting down right before leaving. I run a dark substratum theme with brightness at 35%. I get 6hrs but I stream video and game off and on.Give it a few days and if things don't improve try a new one.
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Hey man. I had this same issue when i bought my phone. Apparently my phone wasn't going into deep sleep mode. Install an app called CPU spy and you'll be able to see if you're phone isn't going into deep sleep due to an app. If your phone is going into deep sleep but you still have battery drain like that. It could be a defective device. Btw the issue I had was facebook app. I disabled it and now I'm getting at least 8:30 hours sot.
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I'll look into that theme, thank you for the tip Vermicious!
I am going to install cpu spy, I do use facebook, i dont know why tbh, might actually disable it and might just use the messenger app whitch is the app i pretty much only use anyways (for social media)
I have verified that I can return the phone unlike my note 3 that I bought a couple of years ago (battery laster 4 hours first charge, wanted to return it but since i had peeled the plastic off they rejekted it lol, such dicks xD)
Other than the battery being a big off the device is absolutely incredible, I am happy I gave samsung another chance, (I had sworn to never use a samsung device again after the note3)
again, many thanks for taking your time to look into my issue!

Oxygen Os 9.0.5 battery drain fix guide

Go to Settings - Utilities -OnePlus Labratory and disable SmartBoost. My battery life went back to normal.
How strong is this noticeable?
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How strong is this noticeable?
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Now with 30% left i have 5 hours Sot. Before disabling i barely had 4 hours at same 30% of battery.
I'm gonna test
Let's see my friend
I do this same and it helps a little. I have 1 hour more sot.
Yes, but smart boost keeps apps in RAM as it should. If you turn it off then you may complain about apps being closed in the background. So it's a trade off based on what you want most.
I always throw the apps out.
Man i only turned this off in the morning and im already seeing an improvement, 3.5hr SOT at 60% battery.
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Yes, but smart boost keeps apps in RAM as it should. If you turn it off then you may complain about apps being closed in the background. So it's a trade off based on what you want most.
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Maybe so, but if its in OnePlus Labratory, that means its in beta or alpha and not fully tested.
jaseman said:
Yes, but smart boost keeps apps in RAM as it should. If you turn it off then you may complain about apps being closed in the background. So it's a trade off based on what you want most.
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Lock te apps then you won't have that problem
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Maybe so, but if its in OnePlus Labratory, that means its in beta or alpha and not fully tested.
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Do you have any real credibility to base these claims off of. This Utility is really nice, and I don't believe you.
What OS, modules, apps are you running.... This to me is hearsay.
only4dank said:
Do you have any real credibility to base these claims off of. This Utility is really nice, and I don't believe you.
What OS, modules, apps are you running.... This to me is hearsay.
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Just try yourself and post back your results.
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Just try yourself and post back your results.
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Why would I disable something I know for a fact works really nice (good looks to 1+ devs who made the utility), based on something someone who says it improves their battery life (which I don't get because this phone has legit really good SoT+battery life)?
You probably have something else wrong
I'm getting reduced deep sleep percentage since the 9.0.5 update. My phone used to sleep 88-95% of my screen off time. Now it can be between 62-75% but my sot is still only 6.5-8% drain per hour of sot.
I dirty flashed and I'm sure it just needs a factory reset but I don't have it in me to set this phone up again when I'm upgrading to the OnePlus 7 pro in a week. Disabling the labs isn't doing much for the screen off time (deep sleep)

Battery Charge Limit: still a good idea?

This gadgethacks article from two years ago suggests limiting battery charge to 80% and even links to an app to do so.
Given the speed at which things evolve in the Android world, is this still a good idea today, and specifically on OP7 devices?
There is much debate around this but I personally stop at 90% and try to recharge around 15%, not letting it go lower.
Thank you! It's helpful to hear the latest thinking on this.
Forgot to ask: do you control that manually, or do you use something like this root app?
Taking it out for a spin but not sure what to expect.
When phone charges 100%. It's not using maximum capacity. Neither is it fully discharged when it hits 0. Manufacturers of course know that and that's something they take into account calibrating the software. I see no reason for limiting it further lower and making yourself to charge it more frequently. That wears it out faster instead
Help!
How can I run?
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How can I run?
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Move one leg faster than the other.
who ah way said:
Forgot to ask: do you control that manually, or do you use something like this root app?
Taking it out for a spin but not sure what to expect.
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I use what is shown in the attached screenshot.
Thank you very much.
For anyone else following the thread, looks like this module is referred on this how-to guide and this official thread.
I'm a ~20 - 90% kinda routine. But I don't dwell on it...
If you use a Chargie device (https://chargie.org), you can limit the charging of any non-rooted phone. It's a much better option. And it's also developed and tested on a OnePlus 7T, so it works well with OnePluses. Check it out.
who ah way said:
This gadgethacks article from two years ago suggests limiting battery charge to 80% and even links to an app to do so.
Given the speed at which things evolve in the Android world, is this still a good idea today, and specifically on OP7 devices?
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ACC
I'm using ACC by VR25 since years on a Redmi Note 4 and now on my Pro 7. You may find it on XDA and Github. It's a Magisk module and you need root rights. Configuration is done by command line, but default is max. 80% and starts reloading at 70%. There is also a gui available from Matte Carrara called AccA, which I never used. I can recommend ACC, it's slim and works rock hard.
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Move one leg faster than the other.
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bro..this cracked me up...Just can't stop laughing...

Google App Causing severe battery drain??

Anyone else seeing this? My Google App is causing severe battery drain. It's been off the charger for 3 hours, sot is 1:52 and battery is at 85%. Google is accounting for 17.4% of drain and only active for 6 minutes and background for 12h7m. I have it set to sleep when not in use. I was watching youtube this morning for 14 minutes and it only accounted for 1.3% drain.
Yesterday it accounted for 20.3% drain and only active for 6m and background 13h 21 m. Day before that 11.5% with active 7m and background 8h 14m.
This is weird. Coming from a Pixel 4XL and didn't see this much battery drain with so little use.
rsbenedict said:
Anyone else seeing this? My Google App is causing severe battery drain. It's been off the charger for 3 hours, sot is 1:52 and battery is at 85%. Google is accounting for 17.4% of drain and only active for 6 minutes and background for 12h7m. I have it set to sleep when not in use. I was watching youtube this morning for 14 minutes and it only accounted for 1.3% drain.
Yesterday it accounted for 20.3% drain and only active for 6m and background 13h 21 m. Day before that 11.5% with active 7m and background 8h 14m.
This is weird. Coming from a Pixel 4XL and didn't see this much battery drain with so little use.
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Haven't noticed that on the Note 20 Ultra but on my LG V60 it was about as bad as that. I have installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco which puts the phone into a deeper doze. It's a root app but can be used without root with a few adb commands. It's one of the first apps I install on all my phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.doze&hl=en
ggrant3876 said:
Haven't noticed that on the Note 20 Ultra but on my LG V60 it was about as bad as that. I have installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco which puts the phone into a deeper doze. It's a root app but can be used without root with a few adb commands. It's one of the first apps I install on all my phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.doze&hl=en
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Thanks! I'll check it out.
rsbenedict said:
Anyone else seeing this? My Google App is causing severe battery drain. It's been off the charger for 3 hours, sot is 1:52 and battery is at 85%. Google is accounting for 17.4% of drain and only active for 6 minutes and background for 12h7m. I have it set to sleep when not in use. I was watching youtube this morning for 14 minutes and it only accounted for 1.3% drain.
Yesterday it accounted for 20.3% drain and only active for 6m and background 13h 21 m. Day before that 11.5% with active 7m and background 8h 14m.
This is weird. Coming from a Pixel 4XL and didn't see this much battery drain with so little use.
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Has it been doing that since you got it? How long have you had it? Because usually Google is saving a lot of your stuff and creating backups in the background but you can deny background activity by going into the app and ticking the slider over to deny background activity but that might preven automatic backups and saves.
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Has it been doing that since you got it? How long have you had it? Because usually Google is saving a lot of your stuff and creating backups in the background but you can deny background activity by going into the app and ticking the slider over to deny background activity but that might preven automatic backups and saves.
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I've had it a week and a half and it's been doing that since day one when I look at history. It takes as much as 25% on some days. I cleared the cache today and hoping that may help.
It's dropped 4% since I posted and I haven't used the phone at all. That's in about 20 minutes.
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I've had it a week and a half and it's been doing that since day one when I look at history. It takes as much as 25% on some days. I cleared the cache today and hoping that may help.
It's dropped 4% since I posted and I haven't used the phone at all. That's in about 20 minutes.
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That's not normal.. is there any updates to that specific app or able to tap uninstall on it to roll it back to a possible previous version?
Edit: this is the screen I'm talking about to stop background activity.
I guess it's still not showing the pictures that are being uploaded.. I'm going to talk to the owner.
I'll try rolling back any updates, but I do see when I do a general internet search that other people have had the problem with Android 10 and Samsung devices. Most have fixed it by disabling the app. But that's not an option I want to take. LOL
I've cleared cache and rebooted. I'll see if I still see a large battery drain. If so, I'll uninstall and reinstall and see if that fixes it.
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I'll try rolling back any updates, but I do see when I do a general internet search that other people have had the problem with Android 10 and Samsung devices. Most have fixed it by disabling the app. But that's not an option I want to take. LOL
I've cleared cache and rebooted. I'll see if I still see a large battery drain. If so, I'll uninstall and reinstall and see if that fixes it.
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By the way, do you have a ton of apps and pictures and all kinds of stuff on the phone? Because if you do the carrier's don't give very fast upload speeds and if it's trying to save a ton of data it's definitely going to take quite a while on carrier data.. I'd use a business or someone's wifi if possible so it can do it quickly.
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By the way, do you have a ton of apps and pictures and all kinds of stuff on the phone? Because if you do the carrier's don't give very fast upload speeds and if it's trying to save a ton of data it's definitely going to take quite a while on carrier data.. I'd use a business or someone's wifi if possible so it can do it quickly.
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I'm currently on my own wifi-working from home-100mbps speeds.
ggrant3876 said:
Haven't noticed that on the Note 20 Ultra but on my LG V60 it was about as bad as that. I have installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco which puts the phone into a deeper doze. It's a root app but can be used without root with a few adb commands. It's one of the first apps I install on all my phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.doze&hl=en
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Never tried naptime is it any good?
I have package pro and killallapps installed so would i be able to use naptime along with these?
Also is it just one click does it or do you have to do your own apps to deep sleep
Thanks
brockyneo said:
Never tried naptime is it any good?
I have package pro and killallapps installed so would i be able to use naptime along with these?
Also is it just one click does it or do you have to do your own apps to deep sleep
Thanks
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I have a lot of apps disabled and yes you can still use it, don't know anything about kilallapps though. If I charge my phone to 100% before going to bed and lay it on the table until morning in 10 hours it won't lose 5%. depending on what apps you have installed may not be quite the same. And yes it puts the phone into a deep sleep. You can have it turn bluetooth, wifi and others off while in doze
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I have a lot of apps disabled and yes you can still use it, don't know anything about kilallapps though. If I charge my phone to 100% before going to bed and lay it on the table until morning in 10 hours it won't lose 5%. depending on what apps you have installed may not be quite the same. And yes it puts the phone into a deep sleep. You can have it turn bluetooth, wifi and others off while in doze
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Thanks just downloaded and done abd commands as I'm not rooted
I'm totally a noob with apps like these whats the best setting to have enabled?
Am I right in saying when its in deep sleep I will only get calls and texts come through then when I unlock my devices all other ones will like emails etc
Thanks again
brockyneo said:
Thanks just downloaded and done abd commands as I'm not rooted
I'm totally a noob with apps like these whats the best setting to have enabled?
Am I right in saying when its in deep sleep I will only get calls and texts come through then when I unlock my devices all other ones will like emails etc
Thanks again
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Here is how I have mine, the first two screens are on the home page and the third is from the Naptime labs.
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Here is how I have mine, the first two screens are on the home page and the third is from the Naptime labs.
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Hi
Thanks for share.
I test it and I will come back to comment

Question Android System Intelligence overheating and battery drain

I've had the Pixel 7 pro since December 2022. Ever since then whenever I had the newest version of Android System Intelligence installed this phone would overheat to the point where touching it got uncomfortable, it would thermal throttle, the pixel launcher would lag and the battery would drain way to quickly. I know that uninstalling the updates for Android System Intelligence from the PlayStore and locking it so it doesn't auto update fixes the problem, but my question is. Is there really nothing I can do about this? Will I really have to keep an older build of Android System Intelligence installed just to properly use my phone?
Try in safe mode as it may be a 3rd party app causing the issue. Try clearing data in that app and any associated apps.
Otherwise...
If you really want to go nuts, factory reset then try the updated version. Might get the same result though.
I don't upgrade or update my N10+; it's still running on the same load from 3 years ago with no issues and almost zero down time.
If it's fulfilling its mission let it be...
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Try in safe mode as it may be a 3rd party app causing the issue. Try clearing data in that app and any associated apps.
Otherwise...
If you really want to go nuts, factory reset then try the updated version. Might get the same result though.
I don't upgrade or update my N10+; it's still running on the same load from 3 years ago with no issues and almost zero down time.
If it's fulfilling its mission let it be...
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I appreciate the suggestion, however going into safe mode won't fix this. I already reset the device to no success, it sucks as I am really enjoying my p7p, if only it weren't for this issue.
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I appreciate the suggestion, however going into safe mode won't fix this. I already reset the device to no success, it sucks as I am really enjoying my p7p, if only it weren't for this issue.
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I would just use the version that works unless that doesn't work either.
If the latter is the case it might be a huge can of worms...
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I would just use the version that works unless that doesn't work either.
If the latter is the case it might be a huge can of worms...
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I'm thankful version T.10.sysimg.pixel7.477131528 of ASI seems to be stable, but yes if this were the case for all versions I wouldn't have hesitated returning this when I had the chance
Really?
Going to test this out over the next couple days. My device previously used to run pretty cool, even though the weather got hotter, but now I'm never underneath 32°C even when idle, lol.
I'm not sure if this affects everyone. I talked to a friend that also has a pixel 7 pro and according to him he doesn't have this problem.
Yeah, it got to the point where even if I left my phone idle, it would be warm to the touch and hot whenever I started using it, even if all I was doing was texting someone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.as
Uninstalling the updates makes it stable again, you might have to restart your device for changes to fully take effect though.
Another thing I could mention is, that going into the battery settings and seeing which app uses the most amount of battery it would end up showing the pixel launcher not ASI, having looked online and trying things out myself I figured ASI was the real culprit and not pixel launcher. Basically I think that features like at a glance, which are integrated into the pixel launcher make use of ASI and for some reason newer versions just like using up a lot of performance in the background, resulting in pixel launcher being reported as a huge battery drainer to android when in reality it's ASI
Curiousn00b said:
Really?
Going to test this out over the next couple days. My device previously used to run pretty cool, even though the weather got hotter, but now I'm never underneath 32°C even when idle, lol.
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What's the ambient temperature? If it's running warm now a few days won't help unless you track down the cause. If found, boom, the excessive cpu cycles and heat will stop.
Is global power management active? If so try disabling it.
Are any services disabled? Dependencies...
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if that tones it down. Backup Transport, Playstore and Gmail are dependencies.
blackhawk said:
What's the ambient temperature? If it's running warm now a few days won't help unless you track down the cause. If found, boom, the excessive cpu cycles and heat will stop.
Is global power management active? If so try disabling it.
Are any services disabled? Dependencies...
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if that tones it down. Backup Transport, Playstore and Gmail are dependencies.
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Pretty much the same usage day by day, but even with the heat being hotter and the A/C being on, that warmth is just there.
I run strictly custom roms currently, so my device is normally pretty barebone on apps nowadays.
I rolled back to a version from March, as April/May is when the heating did start. I'm actually sitting at 29°C right now as I type this, compared to the 33-35 from the first couple minutes of Telegram.
Going to test it out for a few days and see how it manages on the go and whatnot.
Curiousn00b said:
Pretty much the same usage day by day, but even with the heat being hotter and the A/C being on, that warmth is just there.
I run strictly custom roms currently, so my device is normally pretty barebone on apps nowadays.
I rolled back to a version from March, as April/May is when the heating did start. I'm actually sitting at 29°C right now as I type this, compared to the 33-35 from the first couple minutes of Telegram.
Going to test it out for a few days and see how it manages on the go and whatnot.
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Looking at the milliampere usage real time can yield clues. At idle I want to see it sink below 100ma and go to 70ma or lower occasionally couple times a minute. If I see a lot of high spikes or it's averaging in the 3-400's or higher at idle with no apps open, something's up.
A logging firewall can help pin down which app is sucking the juice.
Custom roms are harder to troubleshoot than stock. If you're rooted you have more monitoring and diagnostic tools available though if you use them.
blackhawk said:
Looking at the milliampere usage real time can yield clues. At idle I want to see it sink below 100ma and go to 70ma or lower occasionally couple times a minute. If I see a lot of high spikes or it's averaging in the 3-400's or higher at idle with no apps open, something's up.
A logging firewall can help pin down which app is sucking the juice.
Custom roms are harder to troubleshoot than stock. If you're rooted you have more monitoring and diagnostic tools available though if you use them.
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While I completely agree about everything, apparently, ASI turned out to be the culprit... I'm now at 25°C. I haven't been this low since before the April update. Who would've thought it was that simple, lol.
I've previously tried even stock and on my end, I had only Whatsapp with 2 other apps installed, but I still couldn't get under 33°C. The second I downgraded my ASI, my temps dropped. Everything the OP was experiencing has been my experience that I've been explaining here and there on Telegram as well.
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While I completely agree about everything, apparently, ASI turned out to be the culprit... I'm now at 25°C. I haven't been this low since before the April update. Who would've thought it was that simple, lol.
I've previously tried even stock and on my end, I had only Whatsapp with 2 other apps installed, but I still couldn't get under 33°C. The second I downgraded my ASI, my temps dropped. Everything the OP was experiencing has been my experience that I've been explaining here and there on Telegram as well.
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Yay! So how how did you correct it?
I keep all social media, shopping and banking apps off the phone. I use by browser login only.
WhatsApp I avoid entirely.
blackhawk said:
Yay! So how how did you correct it?
I keep all social media, shopping and banking apps off the phone. I use by browser login only.
WhatsApp I avoid entirely.
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Not sure about kernels for thermals, but currently running Sultan's kernel, and I installed the ASI from March 31st(didn't want to be too outdated. Not sure what version comes preinstalled)
This one
I'm going to see how the device deals with mobile data tomorrow on the go.
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Not sure about kernels for thermals, but currently running Sultan's kernel, and I installed the ASI from March 31st(didn't want to be too outdated. Not sure what version comes preinstalled)
This one
I'm going to see how the device deals with mobile data tomorrow on the go.
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I wouldn't worry about it being "outdated".
The only thing that counts is if it runs well, is a joy to use and is fulfilling its mission.
This N10+ is still running on Pie. It's current load is 3yo now, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. More play time, less down time.
My day yesterday, I didn't go over 37°C while I was out all day surprisingly and the phone never felt warm in hand.
I wonder if it felt warm previously since something was wonky, but now since it seems more settled, it's not as warm but even at the highest temp(35-37), it feels normal to hold.
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My day yesterday, I didn't go over 37°C while I was out all day surprisingly and the phone never felt warm in hand.
I wonder if it felt warm previously since something was wonky, but now since it seems more settled, it's not as warm but even at the highest temp(35-37), it feels normal to hold.
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Likely something you did. Problem is -what- if it reoccurs
Always best if you can find to root cause. For a frequently reoccurring problem a reboot is not the answer even though it may temporarily solve it. Androids should may able to run days, weeks with no reboot or issues.
Once you find it the solution will seems simple... but when the issue is causing high battery drain the pressure is on. That's what took out my first battery, got less then 16 months on it before it failed (and I do mean failed!). You never want a warm idling phone as it is trouble; robs you of performance... and batteries
НIt's 27 degrees outside. The phone heats up to 36-42 degrees on LTE. Cleaned the device and set it up as new a week ago. June firmware, everything is updated
Dark8812 said:
I've had the Pixel 7 pro since December 2022. Ever since then whenever I had the newest version of Android System Intelligence installed this phone would overheat to the point where touching it got uncomfortable, it would thermal throttle, the pixel launcher would lag and the battery would drain way to quickly. I know that uninstalling the updates for Android System Intelligence from the PlayStore and locking it so it doesn't auto update fixes the problem, but my question is. Is there really nothing I can do about this? Will I really have to keep an older build of Android System Intelligence installed just to properly use my phone?
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How big is the drain?
The Battery usage shows indeed ASI and Pixel Launcher for almost whole time span (~6h), but the battery drain is respectively 2% and 1%, were 20 minutes of Opera Browser used 19%, so it looks minimal. My phone does not get warm in idle or even in light usage, while the ambient temperature is ~25-26 celsius.
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How big is the drain?
The Battery usage shows indeed ASI and Pixel Launcher for almost whole time span (~6h), but the battery drain is respectively 2% and 1%, were 20 minutes of Opera Browser used 19%, so it looks minimal. My phone does not get warm in idle or even in light usage, while the ambient temperature is ~25-26 celsius.
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From what it seems this doesn't seem to be affecting everyone, a friend of mine also owns a pixel 7 pro and he told me he doesn't have these problems. On average Pixel Launcher would use about 40% Battery and my phone wouldn't last longer than 6 hours even with barely any usage. I am running stock newest June update and have not rooted this device so I can't for sure say what the cause is other than ASI
Dark8812 said:
From what it seems this doesn't seem to be affecting everyone, a friend of mine also owns a pixel 7 pro and he told me he doesn't have these problems. On average Pixel Launcher would use about 40% Battery and my phone wouldn't last longer than 6 hours even with barely any usage. I am running stock newest June update and have not rooted this device so I can't for sure say what the cause is other than ASI
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During a production run they sometimes substitute smaller chipsets. This can lead to instruction set incompatibilities in the firmware.
Since it only involves a few hundred units tracking down this kind of issue is a ***** and the manufacturer's fault. Samsung is known to do this and they're not the only ones...

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