Downgrading to Oreo? - Google Pixel 3a Questions & Answers

Downgrading to Oreo? - Google Pixel 3a Questions & Answers

Not a fan of 9.0. Is it possible to downgrade right now or would someone have to port an Oreo ROM before it would be possible?

The phone shipped with android 9...

Can't downgrade. Someone could create an Oreo port, but let's be realistic - this isn't going to happen unless you have the skill to do it yourself.
Another thought is to enroll in the Android Q beta and see if you like it better than Pie. It isn't complete yet, but it is stable enough to run if you hate Pie that much. https://www.google.com/android/beta

Twacrs said:
Not a fan of 9.0. Is it possible to downgrade right now or would someone have to port an Oreo ROM before it would be possible?
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I too hated Pie, I did not like the app drawer / card combo and a few other things. As others suggested try the Q beta it has better options for navigation including bringing back the old nav buttons I love Q.

About that Letter (Q, that is)
XmentalX said:
I too hated Pie, I did not like the app drawer / card combo and a few other things. As others suggested try the Q beta it has better options for navigation including bringing back the old nav buttons I love Q.
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Seems like the hate on Pie is due to preference of the "old way" of doing things - it's not unique to Android, as I recall.
In my case, I went within 24 hours from Oreo (S7 Snapdragon) to beta 4 of Q on the 3a; therefore, I had practically no Pie-isms to unlearn with Q. The hard part is more the hardware side of things with the 3a - not Q so much.

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Custom Oreo roms?

Is there a technical reason that we have not seen any Custom Oreo roms released yet. I figured between all the RC releases of oreo leading up to the final build that the most popular roms (Pure Nexus, Resurrection Rom.. etc...) would have released 8.0 versions by now. Is it just too soon and unrealistic to expect that yet.. or an actual limitation in Oreo that is preventing builds? fyi.. im not like demanding one .. just curious on a technical level.

revdirty said:
Is there a technical reason that we have not seen any Custom Oreo roms released yet. I figured between all the RC releases of oreo leading up to the final build that the most popular roms (Pure Nexus, Resurrection Rom.. etc...) would have released 8.0 versions by now. Is it just too soon and unrealistic to expect that yet.. or an actual limitation in Oreo that is preventing builds? fyi.. im not like demanding one .. just curious on a technical level.
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From my understanding, most devs don't work on betas but wait until a final build is published and this was supposedly a significant update to Android. Perhaps there's a lot to do to handle the project treble changes. XDA published an interesting article about it just today.
The pixel doesn't seem to be the super popular development device many expected it to be but I'm sure the Oreo builds will come soon enough.

Just from my point of view, finding the various aspects for my themes was a pain in the butt from N to O. Somethings that were once png are now vector images and that is just from a themers aspect,,,rom building is a whole other thing. I am sure there will be some soon.

I was thinking the exact same thing as OP. I hope this isn't the case for the Pixel 2 XL. My Nexus 6 is running a custom Oreo ROM and it's great so far. It's like a ghost town.

Hey guys, im currently using Pure nexus, i thought of waiting for the oreo version of pure nexus. But it seems like its gonna take a while.. So, shall i switch to official oreo or to wait for any custom rom?
How is battery life and performance in Oreo?.
Thanks in advance

Oreo appears buggy...
I will wait for Pure Nexus Oreo

udahy.manna said:
Hey guys, im currently using Pure nexus, i thought of waiting for the oreo version of pure nexus. But it seems like its gonna take a while.. So, shall i switch to official oreo or to wait for any custom rom?
How is battery life and performance in Oreo?.
Thanks in advance
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I'm not going to say switch to Oreo, but for me it's been pretty stable. It's no RR or PA by a long shot. Battery life seems ok, and comparable to
other nougot roms I've ran. Performance is comparable as well. I'm no gamer, so can't report on heavy usage, but I've had no issues with
my standard apps, youtube, slack, twitter etc..
I guess the only thing I'm real annoyed at is if you want to get into TWRP, you have to reboot to bootloader, and fastboot boot twrp.img. I don't know the
status of flashing twrp, but the fastboot method works well.
Rooted with SuperSU, and substratum working nicely. I can't stand the default navbar height, so installed the mod from "[MODS] Pixel OREO Aroma Mods Installer" and lowed my navbar to 42dpi, and am now content.
Now, once a Oreo custom mod like RR/PA is released (Haven't tried Pure Nexus) I'm switching.

cntryby429 said:
From my understanding, most devs don't work on betas but wait until a final build is published and this was supposedly a significant update to Android. Perhaps there's a lot to do to handle the project treble changes. XDA published an interesting article about it just today.
The pixel doesn't seem to be the super popular development device many expected it to be but I'm sure the Oreo builds will come soon enough.
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I was just about to ask about the "State of Development" on the Pixel because I have been curious as to the lack of active development for Mods and ROMs. Hell my Wife's old Samsung Galaxy S4 still gets more development.
Could the A\B partitioning be a big factor in this?
I thought the Pixel would receive the same reaction like th Galaxy line and Google is a recognizable just like Samsung

Why is custom ROM development on Pixel is very low?

hp13 said:
Why is custom ROM development on Pixel is very low?
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Because it's an expensive device and it has this new crappy A/B partitions system

lorax70 said:
I'm not going to say switch to Oreo, but for me it's been pretty stable. It's no RR or PA by a long shot. Battery life seems ok, and comparable to
other nougot roms I've ran. Performance is comparable as well. I'm no gamer, so can't report on heavy usage, but I've had no issues with
my standard apps, youtube, slack, twitter etc..
I guess the only thing I'm real annoyed at is if you want to get into TWRP, you have to reboot to bootloader, and fastboot boot twrp.img. I don't know the
status of flashing twrp, but the fastboot method works well.
Rooted with SuperSU, and substratum working nicely. I can't stand the default navbar height, so installed the mod from "[MODS] Pixel OREO Aroma Mods Installer" and lowed my navbar to 42dpi, and am now content.
Now, once a Oreo custom mod like RR/PA is released (Haven't tried Pure Nexus) I'm switching.
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The new official flashable TWRP is out and compatible with pixel Oreo.

yeah, I would give "O" a little time. It appears that some are starting to have a few issues with phones being bricked. It's possible that one of the 3 is not related, but certainly my advice would be to wait folks. This could be related directly to branded phones, but not exactly sure and would only be speculation at this point. It's possible the DEV's are waiting on a few areas...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/pixel-bricked-overnight-t3681377
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/google-pixel-bricked-oreo-twice-ideas-t3671302

dantexaiver said:
I was just about to ask about the "State of Development" on the Pixel because I have been curious as to the lack of active development for Mods and ROMs. Hell my Wife's old Samsung Galaxy S4 still gets more development.
Could the A\B partitioning be a big factor in this?
I thought the Pixel would receive the same reaction like th Galaxy line and Google is a recognizable just like Samsung
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The dual partition s is the reason. It makes developing roms a real pain. Developers have now added a dual partition setup to the list of things to avoid when getting devices.

I am usually a real patient guy, but I have to tell you, I am so over stock. I would never be rude enough to ask for an ETA, but cmon gentleman, I'm dieing here. Lol

Golf c said:
I am usually a real patient guy, but I have to tell you, I am so over stock. I would never be rude enough to ask for an ETA, but cmon gentleman, I'm dieing here. Lol
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Flash back to a nougat custom rom. Problem solved.

mitchdickson said:
Flash back to a nougat custom rom. Problem solved.
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Haha, not quite.

Recently got a pixel after years of sony phones and am awaiting some Oreo custom roms. It's great I'm getting the latest OS updates straight away but the downside I guess is the newness means custom roms take longer. Now there's a working TWRP I'm hopeful we'll start to see custom Oreo roms appearing.

zelendel said:
The dual partition s is the reason. It makes developing roms a real pain. Developers have now added a dual partition setup to the list of things to avoid when getting devices.
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citation, please?
that seems a bit silly, because A/B partitions are the new standard. it won't just be Google phones using it... plus, there are non stock ROMs that have made the jump to A/B.... lots of app devs have too....
Frankly, while it may add some complexity, it is far better for upgrades over OTA and makes total sense that it would be the next iteration for rolling out upgrades.

nine7nine said:
citation, please?
that seems a bit silly, because A/B partitions are the new standard. it won't just be Google phones using it... plus, there are non stock ROMs that have made the jump to A/B.... lots of app devs have too....
Frankly, while it may add some complexity, it is far better for upgrades over OTA and makes total sense that it would be the next iteration for rolling out upgrades.
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It is the standard for Google device. Notice how only Google devices use it?
They are great if you stay stock. But not for rom development. As for your citation, you would have to talk to developers about it.
It is coming to the point that people will have to choice. Ota updates from Google or custom roms. Not gonna get both
A/b partition will be like many things gs that Google added that oem remove. Like adaptable storage.

zelendel said:
It is the standard for Google device. Notice how only Google devices use it?
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Motorola has been testing it, including a device that utilizes it now. Same goes with Xaoimi... Furthermore, a/b partition is a part of AOSP... Oreo devices going forward will be making use of Project Treble and I suspect in the next year, you are going to see more vendors adopting the new partition scheme.
On top of that, all new mediatek and Qualcomm SOCs will support A/b partition schemes.
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-android-ab-partition/
https://www.xda-developers.com/moto-z2-force-ab-seamless-updates/
https://review.lineageos.org/#/c/156378/
https://source.android.com/devices/tech/ota/ab_updates
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They are great if you stay stock. But not for rom development. As for your citation, you would have to talk to developers about it.
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Um, no. it's perfectly reasonable for an end use running a custom ROM to want/expect OTA upgrades that uses seamless updating, where supported.... I've been involved in ROM development, in the past. thanks.... for someone developing a ROM; ya, you will be flashing your custom builds, but for an end user not building from AOSP, lineageOS repositories; OTA is far bore reasonable...
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It is coming to the point that people will have to choice. Ota updates from Google or custom roms. Not gonna get both
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lol. that comment makes zero sense, given the context... It's always been the case (for stock vs. custom roms) that you will be getting updates from one or the other, not both...
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IA/b partition will be like many things gs that Google added that oem remove. Like adaptable storage.
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We will see, but given that Qualcomm and mediatek will be supporting it going forward and the revelations and direction of Project treble && VTS; I suspect that a/b partitions will become the norm...
the only question is what will Samsung do for future devices, since they unlike most vendors produce their own SOCs/Exynos boards.... I guess we will see when the next galaxy line is released.

Android 9.0 Pie is Officially out.

Google is dropping a major surprise on us today and releasing the final consumer-ready version of Android P. It has a final name: the version number is "9" (not "9.0"), and we know what the "P" stands for: "Pie."
"Android 9 Pie" is now finished and will start rolling out to Google's Pixel phones.
This release was unexpected given that the last developer preview of Android P only came out 12 days ago, and some rumors were even pegging August 20 for a release date.
At first glance, things like the colorful icons in Settings, circular Quick Settings icons, and rounded corners for just about every menu jump out like a sore thumb. These elements do take some getting used to, but I ultimately came around to liking them quite a bit.
Something else you'll notice with Android P is just how alive it feels. Between the new gestures and updated animations, Android moves in a way that I've never seen before. Oreo was smooth and buttery, but Android P flies underneath your fingertips in a way that can only be experienced in-person.
https://blog.google/products/android/introducing-android-9-pie/

That's great. Hopefully we can soon start seeing some ROMs based on Pie for our lovely Redmi Note 5.

Redmi Note 5 Pro Have Capability of Custom Rom Based on Android P

Guys, recently Im struggle to stay in MIUI or Pure android. Maybe this post can allow someone in this forum to give some opinion and discussion. I used to hate MIUI 7&8 because of how clunky it was during my day with Redmi Note 3 pro. Now I've change to Redmi Note 5 (whyred), and it comes with MIUI 9.5. Since I gonna wait for 360 hours for unlocking bootloader, this is a time where I can try out MIUI 9.5. To be honest, it is so much better compare to my last experience with MIUI. Now I love how the full screen gesture work. I understand that RR custom rom or many other support edge gesture but trust me, the feeling is just different. MIUI 9.5 have a seamless gesture that feels all natural and the animation just move along with ur finger swipe. The trigger of apps is fast and smooth.
Now come to MIUI 10 beta ROM. I haven tried yet, but from all the hype, it has "ZERO" app opening time, and the speed almost claim to be outrunning the MIUI9.5.
Next, 2 days ago, the announce of Android Pie with its new single "pill" gesture to replace the 3 navigation button, and some other new stuff. Like the adaptive battery, sounds promising to give much much better battery life.
So now with 3 choices here. I have big big big dilemma going on. Please discuss, debate, defend your point or whatever it is. Im not sure I want to open a new thread but I think this is relevant to the topic the OP opened.
1.) Stay Global Stable (9.5) and update as it release - Having most stability and no risk of bricking or messing up with phone
2.) Go MIUI 10 (either fw-less, or miui eu...) - Able to enjoy MIUI 10, and keep my fav full screen gesture
3.) Go for Android P (when official rom release which i bet it will be coming soon, even there are some port available now) - I lost full screen gesture, but maybe the adaptive battery, and new stock experience is more superior than MIUI 10??? someone with experience on both tell me?
Someone give your opinion plz. THANKS!

I used to be android pure lover.but now i love miui 9/10 better,it super smooth. and battery life is amazing

kuance said:
Guys, recently Im struggle to stay in MIUI or Pure android. Maybe this post can allow someone in this forum to give some opinion and discussion. I used to hate MIUI 7&8 because of how clunky it was during my day with Redmi Note 3 pro. Now I've change to Redmi Note 5 (whyred), and it comes with MIUI 9.5. Since I gonna wait for 360 hours for unlocking bootloader, this is a time where I can try out MIUI 9.5. To be honest, it is so much better compare to my last experience with MIUI. Now I love how the full screen gesture work. I understand that RR custom rom or many other support edge gesture but trust me, the feeling is just different. MIUI 9.5 have a seamless gesture that feels all natural and the animation just move along with ur finger swipe. The trigger of apps is fast and smooth.
Now come to MIUI 10 beta ROM. I haven tried yet, but from all the hype, it has "ZERO" app opening time, and the speed almost claim to be outrunning the MIUI9.5.
Next, 2 days ago, the announce of Android Pie with its new single "pill" gesture to replace the 3 navigation button, and some other new stuff. Like the adaptive battery, sounds promising to give much much better battery life.
So now with 3 choices here. I have big big big dilemma going on. Please discuss, debate, defend your point or whatever it is. Im not sure I want to open a new thread but I think this is relevant to the topic the OP opened.
1.) Stay Global Stable (9.5) and update as it release - Having most stability and no risk of bricking or messing up with phone
2.) Go MIUI 10 (either fw-less, or miui eu...) - Able to enjoy MIUI 10, and keep my fav full screen gesture
3.) Go for Android P (when official rom release which i bet it will be coming soon, even there are some port available now) - I lost full screen gesture, but maybe the adaptive battery, and new stock experience is more superior than MIUI 10??? someone with experience on both tell me?
Someone give your opinion plz. THANKS!
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I prefer Stock Android, but I don't mind using MIUI 9 either. I have specific need, that Automagic must be working 95% perfectly in the ROM and MIUI 9 passed the test. I am planning to wait until MIUI 10 stable, testing it for at least a month, before deciding whether to continue on MIUI path or moved to AOSP-ish path.
Then last month, ARP hit the deck. I immediately try to save myself from the trap and have decided to move to AOSP-ish and never looked back. Even though there are firmwareless ROM available before I switch, but the decision is final and I move to RR, never look back. Ironic, Xiaomi probably using ARP to scare the users to stay at MIUI, but in my case, it scares me away from MIUI.
I am now at RR 6.1 20180723, experiencing high battery drain during deep sleep if wifi connected. I am thinking to switch to bootlegger ROM, which has customization almost as complete as RR, if the drain persist. Even then, not a single thought I will go back to MIUI. If this bug is solved, I can easily achieve the same SOT I got in MIUI. Sure I lose some MIUI features such as long screenshot, dual apps feature and maybe other. Long screenshot can be done using 3rd party app. Dual apps too, but I don't use it, so I don't miss it. In exchange, I have much more customization I can do here, so no reason to lookback at MIUI anymore.
Sorry to say this, but all gesture implementation so far is still inferior. GMD gesture has been doing this since several years ago. I wish google will adopt it last time when they decide to use gesture navigation. It is one of the reason I still root till dates, totally worth it. So if it is gesture that makes you stay in MIUI, then you should try GMD gesture. You can use GMD gesture to completely mimic the same gesture you use in MIUI or any other ROM. You can even create your own custom path or record gesture. I don't use any gesture feature from the RR, as GMD gesture is much better. The impact to battery life is almost negligible, as I have stated in other post. (I have Automagic & GMD gesture running 24/7, and still easily achieve 10+ hours SOT in MIUI 9.5.x.0).
One minus though as I have experienced recently. For certain games, we need to exclude it from GMD gesture. Or the multitouch event will be consumed by GMD gesture and never sent to the game. So far, in all other app, it is working fine. But I am not the one who go full gesture. I use them both. I still use navbar along with gesture.
As for Android Pie, we are reaching the stage where updating the OS version only give minor changes to the user experience. Sure, usually it is better, but almost not noticeable anymore for most users. Especially if you use Custom ROM, most of the features have been there already. So I won't push the dev, just let them have their own schedule to pick the Pie ROM. I would rather have a stable minimum bug Oreo ROM, than buggy Pie ROM. Battery life probably won't change much, as it is mostly affected by kernel. Unless it is the ROM that have bug and drain too much (as in most LOS based ROM currently, wifi deep sleep drain).
To wait for MIUI based on Pie, maybe we need to wait until next year, MIUI 11. And by the time it is based on Pie, you probably won't notice any pie feature there, as it is overlayed by the MIUI. So if you choose the MIUI path, don't hold your breath for android Pie.

Likelihood of......

Greetings all. Are we likely to see 8.1 on PX5 anytime soon? Or is it only for PX6 hardware. Thanks

Android 8.1 isn't as big of jump as Android 6 to 8 most of the device specific drivers from android 8 should just work once put in place. So if there is an image of a 8.1 rom it should in theory be relatively easy job to port it.

switchboy said:
Android 8.1 isn't as big of jump as Android 6 to 8 most of the device specific drivers from android 8 should just work once put in place. So if there is an image of a 8.1 rom it should in theory be relatively easy job to port it.
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Thank you for the reply. I would have thought however that any update should be beneficial. I know not always though. I asked as I find myself constantly trying a ROM for a few weeks, like Hal9k and Malaysk but reverting back to GS stock. I absolutely detest duplicate buttons. And as clever as folk are for making these ROMs, having a say, bluetooth button on the radio app is pointless to me.

Personaly I'd rather run a stable 8.0 build (with the latest security patches) then an unstable or buggy 8.1 build seeing that both of them probably have the same length of support left. (Although at the moment that is only meaninfull for the appsupport since none of the current roms we have provide the latest security patches)
What i'd really would love to see however is an Android 9 build for our devices especially because from android 9 forward google is actively providing security patches through their appstore. This will mean that that OS is kept much more secure.
Right now the most recent roms all have prety dated security patches applied to them. So to be save I don't keep anything important on my headunit and do not use my primairy email account on it, since it is a potential security risk. (No matter the rom you currently use)

Here I have found an image.
https://yadi.sk/d/umCvHqCDzHccr

Ati_gangster said:
Here I have found an image.
https://yadi.sk/d/umCvHqCDzHccr
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I saw that but it suggests PX6 only by virtue of the fact it doesn't say PX5/6. I agree with switchboy completely. 9 would be great because of the security. But will it run on PX5 hardware?

Advantages of OOS 11 over OOS 10 on the OP 7Pro?

I have been using OOS 10.3.8 on my OP 7Pro (GM1917) ever since that OS version came out.
I'm reluctant to upgrade to any OOS 11 versions due to the complexities and headaches with Magisk and TWRP which exist with A11+ OS's. However, I'm starting to think that I might be willing to upgrade to OOS 11 and bite the bullet with Magisk and TWRP, **if** there are any clear advantages in using OOS 11 over OOS 10.
Could anyone who has upgraded from OOS 10 to OOS 11 on this same device share their thoughts about what might be better in OOS 11 than what is available in OOS 10?
Although I'm generally happy with OOS 10, one complaint that I do have is that its battery-saving procedures are very good at preventing me from receiving timely push-notifications from certain apps (for example, Gmail and LINE Messenger, and I think a number of others). Is this the same in OOS 11, or has this gotten better in OOS 11? ... or could it be that they even "improved" (ha-ha) their battery-saving procedures in OOS 11 to the point where these push-notifications now arrive in an even **less** timely manner?
For me, battery-saving is not very important, while functionality is indeed the most important thing. So am I likely to be better off in this regard with OOS 11?
Thank you very much in advance for any thoughts that any of you are willing to share.

From what I've read by experts on the telegram channel, the only difference is that the quick view buttons are different on a11, and that's it. That there isn't much difference on the gui. Underneath? I don't know.

Scoped storage and forced encryption are fully active in 11.
Not sure how well OP's UI runs on 10, but with 11 it will be harder for them not to make significant changes that don't impact functionality.
Rule#1 if your OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be. If this is the case you have very little to gain and worlds to lose.

blackhawk said:
Scoped storage and forced encryption are fully active in 11.
Not sure how well OP's UI runs on 10, but with 11 it will be harder for them not to make significant changes that don't impact functionality.
Rule#1 if your OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be. If this is the case you have very little to gain and worlds to lose.
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Thank you. I wholeheartedly agree with your Rule #1, which I've been living by.
I'm just wondering if OOS 11 might do a better job of delivering timely push-notifications than OOS 10, which does it annoyingly badly. That would be the *only* factor which might motivate me to go to OOS 11.

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Thank you. I wholeheartedly agree with your Rule #1, which I've been living by.
I'm just wondering if OOS 11 might do a better job of delivering timely push-notifications than OOS 10, which does it annoyingly badly. That would be the *only* factor which might motivate me to go to OOS 11.
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The notification issue may just be on OP's flavor of 10 rather than the 10 base code it's self being buggy. Or purely a settings issue, power management is a prime suspect. Or something in the notifications settings.
I can run my old copy of WPS office on 10, but 11 would puke on it. I have no issues with accessing files on the SD card on 10 either or with constant annoying permission pop ups. Samsung however heavily modified 10 to make it as functional as 9. Both my Notes, one on 9, the other on 10 operate almost identically. However the 10 variant has dozens of new small Samsung system apps to achieve this. They seem to consume very little resources though.
I was amazed when I first saw how many there were... too many to easily count.
The Samsung 11 variant though I doubt would be as happy a story.
At least research it heavily on forums and feedback from users rather than mainstream "yes man" reviews. Fake news is very much alive in tech news/reviews... for a few dollars more.
Ever notice how all new Fold models have glowing reviews when first released then a half year or so later the truth comes out

blackhawk said:
The notification issue may just be on OP's flavor of 10 rather than the 10 base code it's self being buggy. Or purely a settings issue, power management is a prime suspect. Or something in the notifications settings.
I can run my old copy of WPS office on 10, but 11 would puke on it. I have no issues with accessing files on the SD card on 10 either or with constant annoying permission pop ups. Samsung however heavily modified 10 to make it as functional as 9. Both my Notes, one on 9, the other on 10 operate almost identically. However the 10 variant has dozens of new small Samsung system apps to achieve this. They seem to consume very little resources though.
I was amazed when I first saw how many there were... too many to easily count.
The Samsung 11 variant though I doubt would be as happy a story.
At least research it heavily on forums and feedback from users rather than mainstream "yes man" reviews. Fake news is very much alive in tech news/reviews... for a few dollars more.
Ever notice how all new Fold models have glowing reviews when first released then a half year or so later the truth comes out
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I've done lots of work investigating the push-notification issue that I have described, and it's not related to settings nor power-management configuration. It's definitely a known problem with OOS, including OOS 10.
OnePlus hypes their low battery usage, and this push-notification problem is one of the side-effects ... which they do not hype, of course. I don't trust OnePlus to have improved this with OOS 11, and if anything, they could even have made it worse in OOS 11. This is why I am researching here in this forum as to whether anyone has experienced any issues with notifications in Gmail, LINE Messenger, or any other apps under OOS 11 on the OP 7Pro.
PS: LINE Messenger and Gmail do *not* have this push-notification problem under A10 and A11 crDroid ROMs on the OP 7Pro. So, this is definitely a OnePlus OOS issue, and it can't be blamed on those apps.

Best custom ROM for Nord?

Hello,
I've decided to try out a custom ROM, not because I hate OxygenOS11 but just looking for a new experience. Once I got the phone I upgraded immediately to Android 11 but then I saw (and still see) a lot of people swearing by OxygenOS Android 10. Is it worth it to downgrade? What would I lose from V11?
And my main question is for those who tried them, which custom ROM is best for you and why?

qp2988 said:
Hello,
I've decided to try out a custom ROM, not because I hate OxygenOS11 but just looking for a new experience. Once I got the phone I upgraded immediately to Android 11 but then I saw (and still see) a lot of people swearing by OxygenOS Android 10. Is it worth it to downgrade? What would I lose from V11?
And my main question is for those who tried them, which custom ROM is best for you and why?
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I've used Oxygen OS for like 6 months after I got the Nord. Then I moved to Pixel Experience Plus based on A11. Worked fine, but it is discontinued now and they have started with A12. Used it for a while, everything worked fine, some minor bluetooth issues (not sure why), small bugs which you won't notice initially and they aren't a deal breaker.
Now I've switched to Proton KnockOff ROM, everything is fine. Minor UI jitters while locking sometimes. No major bugs faced so far. Also tried Project Radiant Unofficial Build (works fine though).
My final thoughts:
If you want clean pixel phone feel and no customization then Pixel Experience A12 is the way to go.
Plus, this ROM has OTA updates enabled.
If you want some customization and overall good performance and you don't mind unofficial builds then Project Radiant is worth trying.
If you want good performance and tons of customization then I'd say Proton will be a good idea.
NOTE: All the ROMs above are A12 based, I used them without root and the same Kernel it came shipped with.
Try different GCams because some of them lag and even crash many a times, I'd say go with BSG GCam or Urnyx05.

Thank you so much for your comprehensive response, much appreciated. I'll also post here my own findings after testing.

qp2988 said:
Thank you so much for your comprehensive response, much appreciated. I'll also post here my own findings after testing.
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Did u tried? I'm interested at your experience

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