No 5G? - ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) Questions & Answers

Am i correct in assuming this doesn't have 5g? How come? Does it have to be enabled?

5g has hardware requirements, a 5g modem chip, Zenfone 6 doesn't have one. So, no it can't be enabled.
Edit: Confirmation of NO 5G form Asus: https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/6296/zenfone-6-5g-querry

salespalace said:
Am i correct in assuming this doesn't have 5g? How come? Does it have to be enabled?
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Right now you have to buy devices that specifically support 5G. It's not standard. It requires a separate 5G modem.
5G should be integrated next year and should therefore be supported in some form in Snapdragon 865 devices.

In its current state, 5G modems also costs more.. uses more battery, take up way more space to implement.. and the networks are kinda so-so in terms of readiness and wide-spread-ness...
There is a reason why all the 5G phones released so far are all very large.. and also not exactly in the "affordable" space

5G is in my eyes anyway a totally unnecessary development. I do not see the need to have everything connected, speed is already good for 3G, coverage of 5G is lower requiring more towers, and radiation exposure and its implications on health are not clearly evaluated.
As for the OP (@salespalace), why do think you need 5G?

Don't really need it at the moment to be honest. Just wanted to make sure. Interesting to see if they release a 5g version

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[Q] OnePlus 7 Pro - Does it have 5G

I'm very confused about this point. I'm guessing the answer is NO because I'm sure it would be displayed pretty prominently on the official OnePlus website if it was 5G compatible. I thought that the OnePlus 7 Pro was going to have 5G included and the OnePlus 7 wasn't going to have the 5G?
Can someone please clarify this
No, it doesn't have 5G support, there will be another version of the 7 Pro released later this year (possibly only in selected markets) that will have a 5G modem.
Harry Pothead said:
No, it doesn't have 5G support, there will be another version of the 7 Pro released later this year (possibly only in selected markets) that will have a 5G modem.
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Ok thanks. I'm definitely NOT buying this phone then. I'm good with my Note 9 for a bit longer then.
SantinoInc said:
Ok thanks. I'm definitely NOT buying this phone then. I'm good with my Note 9 for a bit longer then.
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FWIW, judging by the LTE roll-out, by the time 5G hits NYC, 1+8 or 1+9 might be out already...
Harry Pothead said:
No, it doesn't have 5G support, there will be another version of the 7 Pro released later this year (possibly only in selected markets) that will have a 5G modem.
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when you reckon?
entwicklun said:
when you reckon?
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No clue and I don't really care. As duncanbyy said: If you buy a 5G phone now, you'll probably want to buy a new phone again before 5G actually becomes viable. Instead, it's probably going to have worse battery life because the 5G modem couldn't be integrated in the Snapdragon 855 SoC but is an extra chip...
The 5G variant should be released around the time that the 7T would have been released, but there won't be a 7T. T-Mobile's 5G launch should be some time this fall. For anyone wanting a OnePlus 5G device, the 7 and 7 Pro are not it.
Harry Pothead said:
No clue and I don't really care. As duncanbyy said: If you buy a 5G phone now, you'll probably want to buy a new phone again before 5G actually becomes viable. Instead, it's probably going to have worse battery life because the 5G modem couldn't be integrated in the Snapdragon 855 SoC but is an extra chip...
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exactly this. no reason to hold out. no 5g infrastructure around me even. by the time that comes - or if - I'll be getting a new phone. no doubt. but that's easy due to my region.
then now that we are talking about 5G models
can anybody tell me why some phones are called GM1915 an some GM1917
Yes OnePlus team claims it'll support 5G
SantinoInc said:
I'm very confused about this point. I'm guessing the answer is NO because I'm sure it would be displayed pretty prominently on the official OnePlus website if it was 5G compatible. I thought that the OnePlus 7 Pro was going to have 5G included and the OnePlus 7 wasn't going to have the 5G?
Can someone please clarify this
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I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
photolarry said:
I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
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Ok, now I'm confused. If this phone is 5G capable then I may still consider getting it.
If it's 5G capable why isn't that advertised?
SantinoInc said:
Ok, now I'm confused. If this phone is 5G capable then I may still consider getting it.
If it's 5G capable why isn't that advertised?
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Because no providers offer 5G for at least a year no matter what they claim. At&t lies. They don't deliver 5G and neither does VZW. The other two don't claim to even be working on it right now.
photolarry said:
I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
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I'm sorry but you're the only person I have heard say that this phone is 5G capable. Every Google search shows websites stating that there will be 3 variants of this phone:
7, 7 Pro and 7 Pro 5G.
IDC if the infrastructure for 5G won't be completed for s while. I need to know if this phone is really 5G capable or not
photolarry said:
I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
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The 5G the OnePlus 7 Pro supports is for Europe and Asia only. Not North America!
I believe this identifies the phone as either the unlocked or carrier version.
-fluffy- said:
then now that we are talking about 5G models
can anybody tell me why some phones are called GM1915 an some GM1917
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thefallen924 said:
I believe this identifies the phone as either the unlocked or carrier version.
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It's a firmware difference. Nothing more. The hardware is the same outside of the T-Mobile version having the second SIM tray filled in, but flashing it will enable the second SIM slot.
That is not true
jcsww said:
The 5G the OnePlus 7 Pro supports is for Europe and Asia only. Not North America!
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There is no 5G phone specifically for any region. It will work with 5G (OnePlus 7 Pro variant) . And real 5G is not coming to TMO for years from what rumor has it. It will need to be a firmware update more than likely as the antenna in the phone are all the same! I asked the rep and he told me that it was ready for 5G. You do not wanna believe a guy that works for the company and said he goes to pop up events in cities like LA and NYC then dont. Buy something else. The rumors that they would make two different phones were incorrect. There is no such model as OnePlus 7 Pro 5G. That is because all the 7 Pros are 5G capable. So do not want to trust me, fine. Buy a crap Samsung 10+ that supposedly is 5G ready. I would bet that the antenna in it is no different than OP7Pro.
The teardowns have been definitive. There are no 5G mmwave antennas or Snapdragon X50 inside.
Is there undisclosed 3.5 GHz 5G capability? Maybe. The firmware has hints of it. But again, no identifiable hardware to use it.
LLStarks said:
The teardowns have been definitive. There are no 5G mmwave antennas or Snapdragon X50 inside.
Is there undisclosed 3.5 GHz 5G capability? Maybe. The firmware has hints of it. But again, no identifiable hardware to use it.
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Correct, OnePlus confirmed the 5G version have slightly different insides to fit the 5G modem. So standard Pro wont work with 5G.
5G is a No go with the current Pro...

Possible to convert 5G variant to 4G variant??

So after searching around the internet and forums and discovering the 5G model is basically not receiving the same attention as the 4G I was wondering if any developers could answer me this, is it possible to convert the phone somehow? Of course I aren't expecting to use 5G if it is possible ( it's the only model EE offer) so had no choice but after reading that updates are none existent and there is no custom ROM support nor are we eligible for android beta programs ??*
In short: No.
I've seen it smart 5g but modem is the question best to ask a Dev who builds kernel 5g has a ways to go by next OnePlus release trade up is best way
Not really, no. AFAIK (I've done zero research on this so I can very possibly be wrong), the SOC in the 4G version is different from the 5G version because the SOC of the 4G version (System on Chip/Card, basically the CPU etc) does not support a 5G modem and antenna.
As I understand it, the difference between the 4G and 5G variants is similar to the difference between a Snapdragon and Exynos Galaxy S8,9, etc.
Again, I could be wrong about this and it's just how it was explained to me prior to the phone being released when I asked if it's possible that the 4G version could have the hardware for 5G and just not be enabled until 5G is available in your area, because there was a time when OnePlus was making a blanket statement that the OP7 Pro would be 5G, and said nothing about a 4G variant even being a possibility.

Question OnePlus 9 5g ???

Does anyone have an idea on how I can get 5g on my op9 ,I pay for the service and I've tried a lot of settings fiddlin ,but nothing seems to connect .maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree all together ,lots of crossed facts online about this .Is it possible ?
What service do you have?
I have OP9 5g on TMobile.. 5g works for me
5G works for me also on mine..
LE2110 11.2.7.7DA Chinese Model
Google Fi Carrier
cass89 said:
What service do you have?
I have OP9 5g on TMobile.. 5g works for me
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mine is a global on postpaid att
Go into dialer settings #*#*4636*#*# phone info and make sure Nr is selected
AT&T doesn't have the OP9 as a certified phone on their network. There is no way around this, either. I've tried everything and even selecting NR doesn't yield 5G on the device. It has something to do with the bands AT&T users for 5G.
Do you get the 5G symbol or does it just stay on LTE?
You might be able to change "carrier_policy" using the Qualcomm .exe and QTSP .exe on the computer.
I have done it on other phones. there's a guide for it....
List of Bands and Carriers:
Modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro, 9 and 9 Pro NR/LTE-A band combos - MT-TECH.FI
On this instruction we will modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro band combo profiles with Qualcomm software. OnePlus has limited 5G access and 4G+/LTE+ Carrier Aggregation combinations and this instruction help you to unlock. However this instruction doesn’t unlock hardware defined combinations...
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Guide to Force 5G:
[GUIDE] Fix/Enable 5G and DSS
Enable 5G and DSS on OnePlus 8T As you may or may not know OnePlus didn't add proper changes into EFS configs to allow us use 5G on every network in the world. This guide will help you unlock 5G access and DSS (Dynamic Spectrum Sharing) and...
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You will not get 5G on ATT with this phone. Blame ATT.
illusiveairforce said:
You might be able to change "carrier_policy" using the Qualcomm .exe and QTSP .exe on the computer.
I have done it on other phones. there's a guide for it....
List of Bands and Carriers:
Modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro, 9 and 9 Pro NR/LTE-A band combos - MT-TECH.FI
On this instruction we will modify OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, 8 and 8 Pro band combo profiles with Qualcomm software. OnePlus has limited 5G access and 4G+/LTE+ Carrier Aggregation combinations and this instruction help you to unlock. However this instruction doesn’t unlock hardware defined combinations...
www.google.com
Guide to Force 5G:
[GUIDE] Fix/Enable 5G and DSS
Enable 5G and DSS on OnePlus 8T As you may or may not know OnePlus didn't add proper changes into EFS configs to allow us use 5G on every network in the world. This guide will help you unlock 5G access and DSS (Dynamic Spectrum Sharing) and...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I'm gonna try it .
Jessp4046 said:
I'm gonna try it .
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Did it work?
Bricked it while trying something Xtra stupid,msm and unlocked the bl ,been busy with Pyrenees pups ever since ,I'll try it tonight .
XNine said:
AT&T doesn't have the OP9 as a certified phone on their network. There is no way around this, either. I've tried everything and even selecting NR doesn't yield 5G on the device. It has something to do with the bands AT&T users for 5G.
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This right here. As a former AT&T employee (corporate office, not retail level), I can tell you that it is most likely that the handset does not use the same 5G bands as AT&T.
AT&T primarily uses the n260 band (39GHz mmWave) and the Global OnePlus 9 does not use that band. In fact, none of the models of OnePlus 9 use n260. Now, from what I understand, AT&T *does* provide low-band n5 service in some areas so it IS possible that some users may report having 5G service on their OP9, but it's purely because they're in a low-band n5 area and as soon as they move into a more populated area where it switches to n260Go to and see,their phone will drop back to LTE.
What I can tell you from my real world experience is that 5G is really nothing to write home about. I live in one of the largest markets in the US and 5G is really not any faster than LTE most of the time. In some cases, it's actually SLOWER.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker this is an excellent frequency checker if you want to see if a phone will work on your carrier before you buy it.
agentfusion said:
This right here. As a former AT&T employee (corporate office, not retail level), I can tell you that it is most likely that the handset does not use the same 5G bands as AT&T.
AT&T primarily uses the n260 band (39GHz mmWave) and the Global OnePlus 9 does not use that band. In fact, none of the models of OnePlus 9 use n260. Now, from what I understand, AT&T *does* provide low-band n5 service in some areas so it IS possible that some users may report having 5G service on their OP9, but it's purely because they're in a low-band n5 area and as soon as they move into a more populated area where it switches to n260Go to and see,their phone will drop back to LTE.
What I can tell you from my real world experience is that 5G is really nothing to write home about. I live in one of the largest markets in the US and 5G is really not any faster than LTE most of the time. In some cases, it's actually SLOWER.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker this is an excellent frequency checker if you want to see if a phone will work on your carrier before you buy it.
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The LE2115 OnePlus 9 has AT&T's low band and C-Band 5G bands, with no mmWave, the LE2125 9 Pro has all of AT&T's 5G bands yet AT&T does not want to whitelist it for 5G access on their network. Verizon certified it for their 5G (OnePlus 9, nationwide 5G, and you can use QPST to enable C-Band on the 9, OnePlus 9 Pro, nationwide 5G, you can use QPST to enable C-Band on the 9 Pro, and mmWave), why can't AT&T?

Question Which carrier in the US would support 5G with the S22 Ultra S908E/DS

Hi, I'll be visiting the US in about 2 weeks and will be getting a prepaid sim for about 6 weeks during my stay there. In the past 5G in the US was not supported as the international variant of the galaxy series was an exynos modem. However this year with the snapdragon modem will there be a difference?
Has anyone tried to bring a global snapdragon version of the s22 ultra, specifically the S908E/DS to the US and gotten 5G to work? I am thinking of either using AT&T or Google Fi. If you have a better recommendation, I'd love to hear it. Or if it won't work in the US, if someone could clarify why, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for all the help!
Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
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gav83collins said:
Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
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I see, thanks. So I see some of the bands are supported for 5G with Verizon/Tmobile/AT&T/ etc. Does that mean 5G will partially work, or for that provider to work all of the bands the provider uses must be available?
eyeatoma said:
I see, thanks. So I see some of the bands are supported for 5G with Verizon/Tmobile/AT&T/ etc. Does that mean 5G will partially work, or for that provider to work all of the bands the provider uses must be available?
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you can narrow that search down to provider, but you would be best researching the area you will be visiting and which network provider has the best coverage, different carriers use a variety of different bands
gav83collins said:
you can narrow that search down to provider, but you would be best researching the area you will be visiting and which network provider has the best coverage, different carriers use a variety of different bands
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Yeah I narrowed it by provider, and as I mentioned the phone has most of the networks, but no mmwave and missing 1 or 2 5G bands, but still has 3-6 bands depending on the provider.
eyeatoma said:
Yeah I narrowed it by provider, and as I mentioned the phone has most of the networks, but no mmwave and missing 1 or 2 5G bands, but still has 3-6 bands depending on the provider.
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its not the phone missing the band, as such, its just bands are split between devices so as to keep the networks from being overloaded on a single band
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its not the phone missing the band, as such, its just bands are split between devices so as to keep the networks from being overloaded on a single band
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Gotcha. In the past I've looked at the 5G coverage map, and pinpointed my location. It says that the area is covered for 5G. At&T's map does not say what bands are covering that area though, it just says 5G. Is there somewhere else you mean I should go?
If it's just there, as I mentioned the s21 ultra that I had last year on the exynos modem didn't work. According to the site you shared, the s22 snapdragon international version has the same bands. So you think it's likely that it won't be supported either, or should I be looking somewhere else?
eyeatoma said:
Gotcha. In the past I've looked at the 5G coverage map, and pinpointed my location. It says that the area is covered for 5G. At&T's map does not say what bands are covering that area though, it just says 5G. Is there somewhere else you mean I should go?
If it's just there, as I mentioned the s21 ultra that I had last year on the exynos modem didn't work. According to the site you shared, the s22 snapdragon international version has the same bands. So you think it's likely that it won't be supported either, or should I be looking somewhere els
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it doesnt sound like it, but its possible that your carrier maybe or have upgraded its 5g roll out its best to compare current/latest checks from your carrier and manufacturer as the dates for other sites, like the link i shared may not be current
gav83collins said:
it doesnt sound like it, but its possible that your carrier maybe or have upgraded its 5g roll out its best to compare current/latest checks from your carrier and manufacturer as the dates for other sites, like the link i shared may not be current
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Yeah, I hope there have been some changes. Thanks for the help man, cheers!

Question 5g on ROG Phone 5

I am having trouble with 5g on my ROG Phone 5 I have verified and reverified that I have 5g coverage with t mobile, that it's turned on in the phone, and that all the imei info on my phone is right. Get 4g but no 5g. I am rather new at this so if it's obvious I'm sorry but I didn't see this in any threads I searched for so I'm at a loss.
azoth428 said:
I am having trouble with 5g on my ROG Phone 5 I have verified and reverified that I have 5g coverage with t mobile, that it's turned on in the phone, and that all the imei info on my phone is right. Get 4g but no 5g. I am rather new at this so if it's obvious I'm sorry but I didn't see this in any threads I searched for so I'm at a loss.
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Are you in a 5g zone? Do any of your family or friends have 5g in that same area?
Even if all of that is a yes, the RoG Phone 5 only has two (out of 4) 5G bands on tmobile (n41 - 2500 and n71 - 600) so you would only be able to get 5G if the cell tower is using one of those bands in your area.
If the tower is using one of those bands and you still dont have 5G then I am at a loss. You can check tower info by using an app like "Network Cell Info Lite & WiFi" or something similar.
The 5G SA/NSA support for TMB and other US carriers are not good due to the lack of bands supported by phone itself (2 out of 4 for US variant, 1 out of 4 for EU and None for CN). had the same problem. No quick fix for it as you'll likely have to swap to a US version to be semi-fully compatible.
Sometimes you'll also need to enable SA in settings for it to have reception.
Another deep hole: even thought both regarded as WW, EU and US var actually have different supports and it's really hard to tell the diff
yurishouse said:
Another deep hole: even thought both regarded as WW, EU and US var actually have different supports and it's really hard to tell the diff
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Yea ASUS is really weird with their versions and one of the hardest phones to figure out. Assuming OP has the US versions, he would have better luck with 5G on Verizon (5 out 7 bands). The global versions and even if you converted a CN version to WW will practically have no 5G.
I have the RoG Phone 5S Pro which has the same version issues as the regular Phone 5 and 5S. I have the US versions and use Verizon so I get pretty decent 5G service in the US.

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