What happens to the eSim when i'm flashing a factory image? - Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers

Will the eSim be deleted during flashing or will it be retained and can it be used again after flashing?

I join in the question, and I have already opened a thread for it.
If you reset from the phone itself, it is not deleted, as there is an option not to delete it.
But with the option of factory image and flash-all.bat I won't know what will happen with the esim

kaiseryeahhh said:
But with the option of factory image and flash-all.bat I won't know what will happen with the esim
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.... and that's what I'm looking for an answer

nobody has tried it?

I jumped into the cold water and tried it.
Neither the flashing of a factory image nor the entry `Wipe data / factory reset` in recovery mode delete the eSim.
It seems that the eSim can only be deleted via the SIM-Manager and with the option to delete it at the factory reset.
good to know, again something learned. :victory:

Isotopes said:
I jumped into the cold water and tried it.
Neither the flashing of a factory image nor the entry `Wipe data / factory reset` in recovery mode delete the eSim.
It seems that the eSim can only be deleted via the SIM-Manager and with the option to delete it at the factory reset.
good to know, again something learned. :victory:
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so if I download the complete firmware, and from fastboot I do a flash-all.bat with all the files I'm not going to delete the e-sim?
It's good to know.

It's a good thing it doesn't get deleted unless the user asks for it, that is definitely standard behaviour and good practice (you wouldn't want to lose your number just for changing roms or hoing back and forth from beta software, right?)
I'd have answered sooner, but didn't get to register until yesterday and kinda forgot about the thread

Isotopes said:
I jumped into the cold water and tried it.
Neither the flashing of a factory image nor the entry `Wipe data / factory reset` in recovery mode delete the eSim.
It seems that the eSim can only be deleted via the SIM-Manager and with the option to delete it at the factory reset.
good to know, again something learned. :victory:
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I ask you again, I know that from the recovery you tell me that it is not deleted, but if you download the full firmware of the Google website and run the flash-all.bat you delete it?
That's what I'd like to know.
Maybe there is to remove some file so that it does not flash it, but I would like to know it

kaiseryeahhh said:
I ask you again, I know that from the recovery you tell me that it is not deleted, but if you download the full firmware of the Google website and run the flash-all.bat you delete it?
That's what I'd like to know.
Maybe there is to remove some file so that it does not flash it, but I would like to know it
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That has been answered already: no it doesn't remove esim. The only way to erase it is by manually erasing the partition where they are stored yourself, or choosing to erase it when you factory reset the phone from the menu in the android settings.

JujuYuki said:
That has been answered already: no it doesn't remove esim. The only way to erase it is by manually erasing the partition where they are stored yourself, or choosing to erase it when you factory reset the phone from the menu in the android settings.
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So, what's the partition where eSIMs are located?? If you backup it on TWRP we can safely restore it again right?

Don't know, but you shouldn't need to back it up as long as you don't do unusual stuff

Any way to back the esim up? Always good to have a backup regardless, software is never bulletproof

I suspect there is no easy way to backup the e-sim. It would be the equivalent to copying a sim card - not a good idea.

I installed the Android 11 DP2 and when setting up the phone, I have no eSIM.
Edit: Looks like the eSIM is still there after it failed to work during initial phone setup. I wasn't able to enable it. Not even the physical SIM worked. So this might be more of a warning for anyone with an eSIM, DP2 might not be able to get you mobile network access.
I reverted back to the stable 10 build, and my eSIM is STIL there. So. An eSIM does survive a bootloader unlock.

Hi,
I just flash a factory image on a Moto E5 play with a sim card inserted in the phone to go back to Android 8, so I could use the Netflix app on the phone!
I was unable to use the phone, because the operator in the factory image was different than the one on my sim card!
So my sim was useless. I could not have the phone to see the sim card in any way.
I had to flash another rom (lineageOS 18.1) to be able to use the phone again.
Now the phone works, but I cannot install the Netflix app, probably because of the unofficial lineageOS 18.1
Jack

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Starting Over after TWRP and Rooting

I installed TWRP, then rooted 10.4.2.18.
I need to start over as well, between the random app loading, gestures and stop, I think from scratch would be nice.
Can I do a factory data reset?
I have a backup from TWRP but I didn't label it very clearly and I'm not sure what it is.
It's unlocked and rooted - by doing the reset I'm assuming I'll loose it the root - am I correct?.
OK, so I asked what:
1. the wrong forum?
2. The wrong site?
3. Worded it wrong?
4. Too noob?
I could go on. Over a 100 people looked and NO-one can even point me to the right place if it's been answered before, or have an answer!?
RBraverman said:
OK, so I asked what:
1. the wrong forum?
2. The wrong site?
3. Worded it wrong?
4. Too noob?
I could go on. Over a 100 people looked and NO-one can even point me to the right place if it's been answered before, or have an answer!?
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You can try factory data reset from settings app if you like. It is a variable on what you will loose and gain. It is a good place to start. Don't do wipe from the bootloader menu or wipes formats from twrp.
Note: Some wipes and formats can be used in twrp in the case where you will flash a rom after, when flashing stock it seldom helps.
Note: Twrp allows you to choose the name for your backup
You can also flash any of the asus stock firmware but you will have stock recovery (instead of twrp), probably loose root, and all of your apps and data.
My choice for best asus stock firmware is 10.4.2.18. It is not best for everyone but I like it.
Good Luck!
Sorry I didn't notice your post. For everyone else I'm sure they didn't wish to deliver such iffy information.
For future reference, a factory reset will take your ROM back to the point of a fresh install. You will lose all data that has been added since first flashing your ROM. If you were running a custom rooted ROM then you will not lose root. If you go back and flash a non-rooted ROM then you WILL lose root.
If you have data that you need to keep, I recommend using an app like Titanium Backup. Go in and choose to do a batch backup up all your apps. Once you have done a factory reset, you can sign back into Google Play and download Titanium. You can then go in and restore the apps you want. I don't recommend installing all of those apps with their data. Titanium gives you multiple options on how and what you want to restore. Only install the individual app data that you must to have. Usually, I'll restore all of my apps with no data at all. I will then go back in and individually restore the app data that I need.
If changing a ROM, restoring app data for all of your apps can have adverse side effects. That is why I say to only install what you need. Hope this helps. :good:
the best way to start from scratch is do a factory reset then use fastboot to upgrade you're firmware
tobdaryl said:
You can try factory data reset from settings app if you like. It is a variable on what you will loose and gain. It is a good place to start.
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That's what I wanted to know - and do - but I wasn't sure what was replaced when I loaded twrp.
tobdaryl said:
Don't do wipe from the bootloader menu or wipes formats from twrp.
Note: Some wipes and formats can be used in twrp in the case where you will flash a rom after, when flashing stock it seldom helps.
Note: Twrp allows you to choose the name for your backup
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I did label them, I backed it up - I think - right after I installed twrp and rooted it, ( I usually do ) but I'm not 100% sure so I didn't want to try and screw it up.
tobdaryl said:
You can also flash any of the asus stock firmware but you will have stock recovery (instead of twrp), probably loose root, and all of your apps and data.
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I'm generally not too concerned about loosing stuff, as long as I know WHAT I lost, so I can replace.
tobdaryl said:
My choice for best asus stock firmware is 10.4.2.18. It is not best for everyone but I like it.
Good Luck!
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Checked and that's what I'm on and so far happy with it.
I un-installed a ton of apps, while I was waiting for an answer, and the thing doesn't seem possessed any more, so I'm adding them back in one at a time giving each 2-3 days.
tobdaryl said:
Sorry I didn't notice your post. For everyone else I'm sure they didn't wish to deliver such iffy information.
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ABSOLUTELY no reason for an appology. I'd done a search and not come up with anything I could use, and couldn't believe no-one had done this before.
Everything sounds good.
I need to give you one piece of info.
The only thing flashing twrp replaces is stock recovery. Everything else remains the same.
Good Luck!
tobdaryl said:
Everything sounds good.
I need to give you one piece of info.
The only thing flashing twrp replaces is stock recovery. Everything else remains the same.
Good Luck!
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BUT when you do a data backup and reset, doesn't the system draw FROM the "stock" recovery?
RBraverman said:
BUT when you do a data backup and reset, doesn't the system draw FROM the "stock" recovery?
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If you are talking about backup with twrp, by default system, emmc, and data are backed up.
Reset erases user apps and data; all basic data would need to be entered as if you had just purchased the unit.
tobdaryl said:
If you are talking about backup with twrp, by default system, emmc, and data are backed up.
Reset erases user apps and data; all basic data would need to be entered as if you had just purchased the unit.
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OH! I was under the impression that it read an image from to the boot parition/recovery partition and wrote that. NOW I get it.
THANK you.
Last question - If I do this (installed es file manager last night and the bloody thing wild), is root.signed.zip still good for rooting this? It's unlocked and 10.4.2.18.
RBraverman said:
OH! I was under the impression that it read an image from to the boot parition/recovery partition and wrote that. NOW I get it.
THANK you.
Last question - If I do this (installed es file manager last night and the bloody thing wild), is root.signed.zip still good for rooting this? It's unlocked and 10.4.2.18.
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I use es file manager for working with both sdcards. I have used it since I received this tablet and find it very useful. Maybe uninstall and reinstall. For a root browser I use rom toolbox pro.
I have not used root.signed.zip but downloading and looking at the installation I don't find a problem. I'd say try it.
wetbiker7 said:
For future reference, a factory reset will take your ROM back to the point of a fresh install. You will lose all data that has been added since first flashing your ROM. If you were running a custom rooted ROM then you will not lose root. If you go back and flash a non-rooted ROM then you WILL lose root.
If you have data that you need to keep, I recommend using an app like Titanium Backup. Go in and choose to do a batch backup up all your apps. Once you have done a factory reset, you can sign back into Google Play and download Titanium. You can then go in and restore the apps you want. I don't recommend installing all of those apps with their data. Titanium gives you multiple options on how and what you want to restore. Only install the individual app data that you must to have. Usually, I'll restore all of my apps with no data at all. I will then go back in and individually restore the app data that I need.
If changing a ROM, restoring app data for all of your apps can have adverse side effects. That is why I say to only install what you need. Hope this helps. :good:
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Just saw your post - don't know where I went ...
I do not have a custom ROM, so what you are saying is no matter how I start over, I'm going to have to re-install TWRP, re-root it and ad apps - correct? It seems to me that settings|backup and reset, I'll leave TWRP intact just reset.
OK, I'm somewhat screwed I think - if anyone's out there (sorry pretty frustrated), I cleaned the D-Cache and the cahe, better but not good. Then a settings|reset and the from within the OS and the same problem does what it wants when it wants, opens programs (usually google voice), pops up the window to set wallpaper, freezes etc. Then I restored a backup from early January from WITHIN TWRP, and cleaned the caches - same. Restored another and cleaned same. I have cleaned the system, as I cannot see/figure out which clean rom custom I can use on this, as I think that might be my only hope. Other than tossing in the junk pile as it's unusable like this.
Whatever is going on is IN the system, which leads me to a custom rom as my only possible salvation - (think I just said that, hum).
Any ideas?

Remove personal files securely

Hi there. So I sell my OPO. Well, i got myself a OP3, mainly because of LTE in Germany (band20) and the dual sim.
Someone will buy it on sunday, so by then, I will obviously go through the sticky "[GUIDE] Return your OPO to 100% Stock"
My question would be, after I backed my files up on my PC, what method should I use in order to delete my files on the phone?
Many people say factory reset is enough, some say it isn't. My idea was to encrypt the phone via settings and then perform a data wipe via stock recovery. Will that work? Shouldn't then theoretically every file be - even if recoverable after factory reset - encrypted, thus useless?
Or am I overthinking things here?lol
thanks!
You are certainly overthinking about it. Just do a factory reset and erase all your personal media .
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TheCoon324 said:
Hi there. So I sell my OPO. Well, i got myself a OP3, mainly because of LTE in Germany (band20) and the dual sim.
Someone will buy it on sunday, so by then, I will obviously go through the sticky "[GUIDE] Return your OPO to 100% Stock"
My question would be, after I backed my files up on my PC, what method should I use in order to delete my files on the phone?
Many people say factory reset is enough, some say it isn't. My idea was to encrypt the phone via settings and then perform a data wipe via stock recovery. Will that work? Shouldn't then theoretically every file be - even if recoverable after factory reset - encrypted, thus useless?
Or am I overthinking things here?lol
thanks!
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That guide to 100% stock will wipe the internal storage. No need to do anything extra. Fastboot flash latest available images for returning to stock includes flashing a userdata image. That will wipe it clean of everything
Renosh said:
That guide to 100% stock will wipe the internal storage. No need to do anything extra. Fastboot flash latest available images for returning to stock includes flashing a userdata image. That will wipe it clean of everything
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Hi,
yeah. I did this, then encrypted the phone, got the whole (empty) internal storage full with big dummy files, did a factory reset inside the phone.
Even if recoverable, it would still be encrypted. Even if decrypted, it would be (like) 58GB of dummy files and nothing else.
I know, I am a bit paranoid, but I got lots of personal and important stuff on there.

Selling my S6 - How can I complete wipe everything on the device?

Hey,
I want to completely wipe my Samsung S6 before I sell it/giver it away, so that when the new user won't find anything when they scan the device for deleted files.
What's the best way to achieve this?
I figured Encrypting my device and doing a factory reset or wipe within TWRP would suffice, but does it? Has anybody achieved a completely clean device and how?
freekystar said:
Hey,
I want to completely wipe my Samsung S6 before I sell it/giver it away, so that when the new user won't find anything when they scan the device for deleted files.
What's the best way to achieve this?
I figured Encrypting my device and doing a factory reset or wipe within TWRP would suffice, but does it? Has anybody achieved a completely clean device and how?
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IShredder works for me.. Or just do it oldschool.. Delete and factory reset. Stuff your phone with crap files to overwrite old files and do that as many times as you feel safe and done.. And if you want to experiment with it try to use some recovery software after to see if you got rid of everything
Horgyboy said:
IShredder works for me.. Or just do it oldschool.. Delete and factory reset. Stuff your phone with crap files to overwrite old files and do that as many times as you feel safe and done.. And if you want to experiment with it try to use some recovery software after to see if you got rid of everything
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I think that only works for traditional hard drives rather than on flash memory (SSD/NAND) -- It would seem to me encrypting and factory reset/full wipe in TWRP would work better.
Installing stock firmware encrypts the phone, factory reset/full wipe to completely wipe the data including the key that unlocks the data and doing that another time would probably make data inaccessible especially after a time of use.
AFAIK custom roms are usually not encrypted to allow root to be installed.
I could be wrong however... Has anybody got experience using this method?
The phone needs to be encrypted first before performing a factory reset. Factory reset will make it look like all data has been deleted but actually personal info like photos, texts, emails etc will still be stored in memory and just marked as deleted. This means they can be quite easily restored if someone decides to use a data recovery tool on your phone once it's out of your hands. Both data encryption and factory reset can be done easily from the phone's settings. Data encryption is in the Lock Screen and Security section. Reset can also be done remotely from the findmymobile.samsung website

SMG386T1 Partition Recovery

Hi, I've been meaning to write this since 2016 or 2017, I think, butI think I can still remember all the important details of this crisis...
So I had rooted this 'Galaxy Avant' phone originally so I could disable/remove the extra stuff of the systems' in the hopes of improving the phones' performance, but I didn't change the OS from whag metropcs gave me at that time. I also had a password and/or a pin lock on both the sd card, startup, and internal memory. Everything was okay until I ran into a wifi issue where it wasn't connecting to a semi-public wifi hotspot, so I thought if I cleared the wifi apps' cache the issue would go away. Trouble was I didn't know that the wifi cache wasfor some reasin the same as the system's cache, and a few seconds after clearing it, my phone crashed, and continued to restart itself. So I panicked and tried removing the password/pin locks for easier backup to recovery/resetting. Well the external sdcard managed to decrypt, but when I proceeded to attempt the same for the device, it decided to factory reset itself.
I lost nearly everything from that event. I did periodic backups to the sd card but not daily and since that phone was also responsible for my own memory retention, at least a month or two of my soul is still missing. Any new contact, commitment, itinerary, life decision, goal, deadline, or other important note from that time was wiped and can't be found anywhere else, and I still don't know who else is or was affected from this (especially if I had just made their acquaitance).
So all that to say I must get this device back to how it was before the cache-wiping incident. The phone hasn't been turned on since, except to dump the system image onto my linux desktop. With testdisk I can see what I assume are the deleted partitions from before the factory reset, but I don't know how to undelete+decrypt them and/or copy them back to the device. Please tell me honestly that there's a way to do this, and what that way is. My functioning really depends on it...
shmusername said:
Hi, I've been meaning to write this since 2016 or 2017, I think, butI think I can still remember all the important details of this crisis...
So I had rooted this 'Galaxy Avant' phone originally so I could disable/remove the extra stuff of the systems' in the hopes of improving the phones' performance, but I didn't change the OS from whag metropcs gave me at that time. I also had a password and/or a pin lock on both the sd card, startup, and internal memory. Everything was okay until I ran into a wifi issue where it wasn't connecting to a semi-public wifi hotspot, so I thought if I cleared the wifi apps' cache the issue would go away. Trouble was I didn't know that the wifi cache wasfor some reasin the same as the system's cache, and a few seconds after clearing it, my phone crashed, and continued to restart itself. So I panicked and tried removing the password/pin locks for easier backup to recovery/resetting. Well the external sdcard managed to decrypt, but when I proceeded to attempt the same for the device, it decided to factory reset itself.
I lost nearly everything from that event. I did periodic backups to the sd card but not daily and since that phone was also responsible for my own memory retention, at least a month or two of my soul is still missing. Any new contact, commitment, itinerary, life decision, goal, deadline, or other important note from that time was wiped and can't be found anywhere else, and I still don't know who else is or was affected from this (especially if I had just made their acquaitance).
So all that to say I must get this device back to how it was before the cache-wiping incident. The phone hasn't been turned on since, except to dump the system image onto my linux desktop. With testdisk I can see what I assume are the deleted partitions from before the factory reset, but I don't know how to undelete+decrypt them and/or copy them back to the device. Please tell me honestly that there's a way to do this, and what that way is. My functioning really depends on it...
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Go to Sammobile .com or samsung-updates .com, enter your model number in their search feature to find your stock firmware. If you can find the firmware, you can use Odin to flash the firmware to restore the device to normal function.
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Droidriven said:
Go to Sammobile .com or samsung-updates .com, enter your model number in their search feature to find your stock firmware. If you can find the firmware, you can use Odin to flash the firmware to restore the device to normal function.
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Thanks, but the device already functions normally; it reset itself to factory defaults, after all.
I just want to be able to restore the device to as it was before the accidental cache wipe—apps as they were, files, and all...
shmusername said:
Thanks, but the device already functions normally; it reset itself to factory defaults, after all.
I just want to be able to restore the device to as it was before the accidental cache wipe—apps as they were, files, and all...
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Oh, you mean you want to recover your lost data. All I can say is try some data recovery software on PC, there isn't any guarantee that it will work though. Data recovery on android is not very reliable.
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Does unlocking the bootloader delete the current phone data? Need to make a backup, X3 has write problems after update

I have the problem that my phone has problems to write something to the internal and external 'sdcard', thus I can not make the build-in backup. I am simply on unmodified stock rom, the problem starts with OTA updade 2.5.2.0.RJGEUXM, the phone even can not manage to download the 2.5.3.0.RJGEUXM update, because it simply can not write it to disk. I am not able to download anything, I even can not make a photo.
I managed to flash 2.5.3.0.RJGEUXM and current 2.5.4.0.RJGEUXM by downloading the according recovery images with the PC to an sdcard, putting in the card to the phone and flashing them with the phone update tool by specifying the file(s). The problem still exists, downgrading is rejected by the tool.
I could try with factory reset, but I still have the hope to backup the data first cause reading data still works, the phone works fine up to the point I can not save something. My next idea is to unlock the bootloader, trying custom recovery partition backup as described here in this forum: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...in-poco-x3-recoveries-orangefox-twrp.4233377/
But I am not sure if it would erase the data anyway when I unlock the bootloader. My former Huawei phone wiped data when unlocking the bootloader.
My options becomes less. Thanks for help
No, it doesnt delete any data. After unlocking the bootloader, the Phone will reboot as normal and everything will be in place just like nothing happened
BraianV said:
No, it doesnt delete any data. After unlocking the bootloader, the Phone will reboot as normal and everything will be in place just like nothing happened
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I don't believe that is correct: after unlocking the bootloader, the phone will perform a factory reset -- OS will remain but any user data will be wiped.

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