So Asus abbadon their flagship - Asus ROG Phone Guides, News, & Discussion

So soon they annouce their new ROG phone 2 tottaly abadoning their first gaming hardware..
As for me buying ROG Phone was big mistake..

Yeah. Curious to see what they do with the ROG Phone 2, but the first one undoubtedly was a huge disappointment apart from the specs. Buggy mess and bad build quality, service and software.

I have ROG Phone and as for me yea it's buggy and sometimes have force close app but im using it as my daily phone wherever i go, and when i home i dock my Rog Phone to ROG Docking Station to play games so it's no big deal for me because i can use it as my daily phone and play games with 60 FPS with 90Hz Refresh Rate but hopefully they have a huge update for the Operating System like Android Pie or whatever but for now im very happy to this phone. Just be happy to your phone now

Yes, the material quality is bad (black color wearing off) and yes, ASUS doesnt care for updates and yes, the phone has some bugs but overall its a great phone... The major problem is simply that no one cares for it, not even the community, ROG Phone is one of the only phones that doesnt even have TWRP.
But the phone can still do almost everything you want, all it needs is root + xposed + magisk.

seriously pissed that I cant use key mapping with an xbox controller!

This is it guys. Asus officially cancelled Pie update for our Rog Phone.
End of life for this product.
One year after public launch.
Unacceptable.

Android pie is comming today

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Android pie is comming today
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I'm so glad to have been wrong
Thanks for the news pal.
By the way I just received Android 10 on my Galaxy S10+.
Asus still has some serious catch up to do... but it's better than nothing !

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Should i buy Honor 6 ?

Hi guys, so im thinking to buy Honor 6 , because i like alot that design, but you guys tell me is it worth buying it ? (even i hate that huawei UI) if not ? then what you recomand me to buy (something that cost same like Honor 6 ) ?
Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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well thanks man, what you suggest me to get ?
I still love my Honor 6... and don't have any of the issues reported.
But if was today, I'd probably get a One Plus X.
i love my honor 6 dual sim with lte and also have no issues...I would buy it again, especially for the price of 239 USD....
good luck anyway...
Robo
p.s. and i play games with no strutters (nfs...)
and with emui3 you can change a lot the look and feel of the phone...
I dont have any of those mentioned problems.
Still works good for me, nice performance, nice battery life.
kackalarm said:
Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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Do you have some links, threads on the forums etc. to put more credibility to your claims? I tried to look for it, but it doesn't seem like these issues are as well known as you say...
kackalarm said:
Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
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This issues are definitely made up. Or caused by bad treatment of the phone. I can assure you that none of the mentioned above happens.
As for the system updates, it is a downside that updates come too slow, but if you are not of those people who flash new roms every day, it shouldn't really bother you.
I'd say the terrible WiFi performance (WiFi is unusable if you're streaming audio to a Bluetooth device) and EMUI 3.1 being pretty broken (Chrome tabs are nowhere to be found, Smart Lock doesn't work properly, and many many useful features of 5.1 are hidden or plain absent) are dealbreakers for me.
Add to this the fact that the power button on mine stopped working. The Honorvipservice.co.uk website doesn't work, and tells you to call the service centre. Called the centre and they said to call Huawei. Called Huawei and the booked it in over the phone. Allegedly a replacement phone will come tomorrow, but to be honest I think I'm just going to sell it and get a Motorola so I can get stock Android 5.1.
PS should add that I'm back on my old Moto G first generation (non 4G) and I'm actually much preferring the experience to that of the Honor 6 Plus - even with the slower operation and smaller screen. Android just works properly - at least with the minimum apps installed.
No problems with this phone. EMUI 3.1 works like a charm (no issues with chrome tabs) haven't done both bluetooth streaming with wifi but the wifi itself is stable and quick enough.
I bought my Honor 6 for £80 as a joke phone as I never tried an Huawei and did not want to spend a lot of money on it and boy am I impressed. Aside from development, the phone is really quick and the processor (which is basically an Exynos CPU, which are the best imo) is good and coupled with 3GB RAM means its definitely high end material. Just put on MIUI 7 on the phone and you are set. Lovely phone but I don't use it much as I have loads of phones haha. At the price range its in its great. I would not spend more on a Huawei (like the 6P) than the Honor 6.
Yeah, the phone is all good for me. If you have the patience to wait for software updates, its a fine phone.
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Are you sure? There was a change in how Chrome handles tabs (not EMUI related) and you might've missed that. Now each tab is treated like a different application - you manage tabs in Recent Apps (the square button). Works for me.
The other stuff mentioned here isn't too important for me to be honest, but I understand your concerns. I definitely have the patience for updates, coming from a phone that had Android 4.1 (and quite usable 4.4 custom rom) and 0,7GB of RAM, Honor 6 is a massive upgrade for me. kackalarm's issues seem faulty model related at best, and blatant lies at worst. I'm pretty objective towards the fact that my phone might have some faults in the future, but it's hard to believe stuff like that without any proof...
For its price, it's not bad at all. Screen is nice, and not too big (5" is the absolute maximum for the size of my pocket). It looks better than most phones in this price range, has 3GB RAM which should be future-proof enough. There's some ROM development, even if we're still waiting for any kernel sources newer than KitKat, I can wait. (Although there are definitely safer bets if you care about ROM development, there is a chance Huawei won't care about it anymore) I'm satisfied with EMUI and that's got to be the first time I even considered using stock, unrooted software on a phone. (To be fair though, my previous phones were slow and had no recent updates, so using ROMs was necessary for good Android experience)
Yeah, I updated using the file on the Honor site. The phone told me about the tabs but no sign of them when I hit the square button. My Moto G is on 5.1 and they work fine there.
The Wifi/Bluetooth thing is the biggest problem with the device for me though.
@sado1
Let me google it for you if you are too lazy: lmgtfy.com/?q=honor+6+blue+spot
When you need more "credebilities" then look into Amazon reviews of the Honor 6. It's not a "faulty sunday model" or whatever, the Honor 6 itself is faulty. How can it be that so many same smartphones have the same failures? You can't see these failures in a quality check, if they happen in a random time. For one it's after a few weeks, for the other one it's after a year or more, but it definitely will happen some day. Similar problems are on smartphones like Sony Z1 and Samsung Galaxy 1 Plus for example (touchscreen problem, ghost touch while connected to power connector). Enough "credebility on my claims"?
@browser problems
I've got problems on my Honor 6 with videos often, when I try to watch a video over one of the browsers (Chrome, Firefox). First everything works like a charm and after 2 minutes or whatever the tab is broken and shows no video anymore. That happens on every browser. I have to reload the whole browser or open the video in a new tab then. Apps like Amazon Video or Youtube work like a charm.
@Xhemal1325
I won't suggest you any cheap smartphone, because you ever have a downside on that. You have to buy what you feel is good for you and if a cheap phone is good for you it is good for you. I suggest you to go into a smartphone shop and test every actual smartphone you can offer for nearly the same price, like Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo and stuff. As long as you are happy it's good. I only hope that you don't buy a Honor 6 and end up with the same problems some day. I personally won't suggest cheap and old smartphones and the Honor 6 was more an emergency buy than a well conceived buy, because I can buy the smartphones, where you clearly feel and see a difference between both worlds.
Should you buy an Honor 6 ?
If you are an Indian User: Yes, but you must know this is an end of life model....
If you are an European User: No
Since Lollipop, Indian model of H60-L04 (Honor 6) have 3 updates.
Beta selection for Marshmallow just started.
European Model: 0 updates since Lollipop (this also an H60-L04). And of course security flaws are'nt fixed !
No beta at this moment for the H60-L04, and no one knows when ....
From 12 mounts I have Honor 6 H60-L12. Bought from Aliexpress (China to Europe) (official china rom 5.1.1 manual applied, Battery 3 days regular use)
Good thinks:
No bad issue, work stable in any conditions.
EMUI 3.1 have similar to iphone interface for me it is really easy to jump between SMS Contacts Notes. I like it.
- Individual restriction to any installed app. When lock phone it stop app not permitted to work.
- Sensitive GPS, two independent SIM TX, IR with many many models for TVs DVDs STBs Air conditioners, built in Camera translation, have MHL, OTG.
Features not implemented:
- Double tap to start screen
- No Miracast only DLNA
- Some issue with connection to Kenwood car audio. Play music from speaker not from amplifier. Still try to clear it.
Low in plastic body - to soft - in back pocket of jeans it start to have curve shape.
Antutu (last) 51 387 pionts. HiSilicon Kirin 920 18 place CPU model. Very stable work.
Hope be in help.
i have the H60 L-04 with last oficial rom
i had a htc m8, oppo 7a, xiaomi mi4, letv x600
material are not premium, its plastic, but the phone is nice looking
fast and stable, i would prefer a clean android rom, but emui isnt bad at all
battery life is good
wifi is normal
sound is decent
screen is good
can´t complain...

Switched from iPhone to Huawei P9!

Today I finally made the switch! Was a little scared if I am gonna love this phone, they way I loved my iPhone. But I was very surprised how nice and better this phone feel. And the screen is gorgeous compared to my iPhone 6. And this phone is fast, like a lot... Made couple photos just to test the camera and I must admit, it's so damn good. So glad I did not get the iPhone 7 (700 euro). This phone is 400 euro here in Bulgaria with 2 year contract 11 euro for the plan - Unlimited talk + 8000MB internet and free HBO Go - Unlimited data to Facebook and Whats app. . So it's pretty good. Hope it won't give me some problems in time... And surprisingly coming from iPhone the UI on Huawei looks pretty good to me. Only thing I really wanted in this phone is Double tap to wake up...
And the best thing, I got a free bluetooth speaker Huawei. This made even better the deal. So if you think about getting one. Don't think twice. I don't know if it will be a flawless device but the Build, camera, screen are great.
Could'nt agree more. It is just a superb phone. You have to take price into the equation, like you have to in any other comparison. And this unit comes up pretty high.
Good screen, camera, software, speed and looks! Quality is great, support is great and update history is phenomenal. Great choice!
MartinDimchev said:
Today I finally made the switch! Was a little scared if I am gonna love .........I don't know if it will be a flawless device but the Build, camera, screen are great.
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So, welcome to XDA :good: I'd say you've made a good choice. Now it's time to get creative! With android you decide what's the best way for you to use your phone and then you make it happen.
[e] oh and that headphone jack is pure awesomeness, right? (couldn't resist )
Me and my brother are always in battle. He always want to have the latest and best from Apple and I want to have from Android ... gues who loose in direct competition in many terms?
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Me and my brother are always in battle. He always want to have the latest and best from Apple and I want to have from Android ... gues who loose in direct competition in many terms?
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Not a big difference. iPhones especially the latest is always a little faster, but I really don't care about 1 sec faster...
Someone who knows where to enable Notification badges for other apps like Facebook? (the number of missed notifications shown in the corner of the app).
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Someone who knows where to enable Notification badges for other apps like Facebook? (the number of missed notifications shown in the corner of the app).
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hold one finger in home screen
more settings
badge app icons
I switched from iphone 6 to the Huawei. Quite happy so far ! Camera, interface speed and browsing is quick. I guess the Huawei P9 is the best phone for iphone switchers
I switched froim Iphone 6 too). Iphone was to boring, elegant but boring. I hate typical android phones like samsung, lg so I have Huawei P9 and I am very happy. Huawei is beautifull, very fast and I love EMUI, because EMUI has almost everything good from IOS and android. I feel like I am using IOS, but I have everything good from android
Really happy about you guys. I love my phone too. There are some little things like not having missed notification badges on all apps but I guess it could be fixed with updates or Android N. Will see. Great phone, especially compared to iPhone (smaller) variant. Screen is beautiful and great for media. And the price was really great for this phone.
Huawei gave me free bluetooth speaker? Did you get one?
was curious to read all feedbacks because i come from similar background. Had iphone 7 Htc 1+ Moto and finally opted for P9. Its been 6 weeks. Phone is superb. Blazing fast and premium harhardware for a fraction of price. I predict Huawei bright future given in the last several years they achieved so much. In UK you can get it for £350. For such price you can'tget a better phone and 3 years warranty. Period.
My nephew, in 2 weeks time he went from Sony lover to " my next phone can easily be huawei" .
I think Huawei is really proving itself as an emerging smartphones manufacturing company. Recently they announced that 9 Million P9 units have been sold so far around the globe at the rate of 1.3 Million units per month since its release back in April current year.
everything about this phone is still gorgeous , still same after usage for 5 months now
Love this phone. Initially brought it as a stop gap option till iPhone 7 plus arrives. But was so disappointed with the iphone. Just brought a leica case since looks like I'll be sticking to this phone for a while.
Its working so well with MM ,for the first time I'm almost apprehensive of the Nougat update.
Switched from iPhone 6 tot P9 too, very happy! Thought about it for a very long time but no regrets One question: is there any way to display if i'm connected via 3g or 4g? I live in a area where my iPhone switched frequently but on my P9 it's not in the notification/statusbar anymore..
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Really happy about you guys. I love my phone too. There are some little things like not having missed notification badges on all apps but I guess it could be fixed with updates or Android N. Will see. Great phone, especially compared to iPhone (smaller) variant. Screen is beautiful and great for media. And the price was really great for this phone.
Huawei gave me free bluetooth speaker? Did you get one?
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I didn't get free bt speaker. Now, when you have Android Phone, you can do almost EVERYTHING with your phone welcome to android community ^^

Honor 8 Still worth buying in May 2017?

Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
Yes still worth buying. Honor /Huawei have a sale on the Honor 8 if the phone fits your needs go for it.. It's a great device.. Just my 2 cents worth..
francesco_mnz said:
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
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Display in sunlight and battery, camera , average performance very good, things that i dont recommend this device to other probably low in loud speaker quality.
Rumor: There's going to be a new version announced/released in the next two to three months at an event in Taipei. I'd guess it'll have a Kirin 960 which has a much nicer GPU.
Huawei has been VERY bad with updates. I was using the B360 release until yesterday or the day before when B385 was pushed to me via OTA. A number of posters still haven't received that update and they're none too happy about it. B360 came out at the end of December 2016 and B385 just came out a week into May which is an unacceptably long time to be running months out of date security.
B385 may have introduced battery life problems I wasn't experiencing, but which others have been on B360. I have only been using it a day or two though, so it's hard for me to say for sure as of yet as my phone has spent most of its time on my PC or next to my bed charging.
Hopefully, the people who are still on B360 get B385 soon, hopefully the worse battery on my phone is just my imagination, and we'll get a timely update next month, but those things are all yet to be seen. If Huawei gets the update out to other Honor 8 owners within the next week, gets the May security update out in early June, and starts keeping up to date, then I'll be happy with the phone, but that remains to be seen.
It is a great phone, but if you buy one you may be stuck using 5 month out of date software indefinitely, and even if you get B385 right away we don't know that the next update will be out in a month. It could be not until November or never to get the update after it. Combine that with that a new version of the phone will probably be announced and available in a couple months and I'd say to wait. We don't know if or when Android O is coming to the Honor 8. As much as I like this phone I can't recommend buying it at the current time.
We still aren't getting any communication from Huawei/Honor as to what to expect as far as future updates. And that's really troubling.
I would suggest waiting for this years release which I would expect to be out soon or looking at the One Plus 3T. One Plus is rumored to be coming out with the One Plus 5 sometime soon too, so right now is not really a great time to be buying a phone if you can wait.
Thanks all for replying. Honor seems to be a big disappointment, it's good but something form Huawei is always lacking...
I can wait hoping that my phone survives until the summer one plus 3t is a bit too expensive, I'm still thinking of saving some money and go for Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2, even if I know Honor feels more like a "top phone".
If anyone will give some other opinion it will be so much appreciated.
Well, just to say my opinion
Fisrt of all, I had a lots of smartphones
Just the last 20 months I had more then 5 phones changed
The thing is, I am reading on xda for every phone the same like I wont buy LG or Sony or Samsung ever again.. its allways the same talk..
Like allways people searched for the best thing for the money and then got disapointed by something and than started like I wont buy LG anymore
Next thing thay do is buying something else.. the best for the money and again talk bad about it..
WHY??
Well, guys you must realize that the one usually are disapointed were looking for the perfect one for the money
Well, there is not evan one phone on the market wich is PERFECT FOR THE MONEY
Couse it always will be short on something
Like locked bootloader and no xda support or like no support from the manufacturer but then a bit of xda support or the build qualitie maybee good but then it is maybe fingerprint magnet..
Just be aware of that you will never get all for the money.. it is and will be allways like that..
So when you want to buy any phone be ready to be satisfide with it as is.. dont be wanting all of it for the money.. no phone has it
Soo, if you want now to consider things and this Honor 8 be prepared to like it in a way that allmost everything is ok.. allmost.. like awesome look.. premium feel but easy to scretch or be a fingerprint magnet.. able to unlock the bootloader and root and install twrp.. great battery like 9hours of SoT on B381.. great speed.. allmost perfect..BUT for now not much of custom rom support wich can change with getting the source code.. soo the best is yet to come
Soo, its almost perfect.. but dont look for perfect
You will never find it
Not evan iPhone is perfect
Look for something you will like it as is
And after like 20 smatphones I had this one is the best of it
In real world beating phones like double the priceed like pixel.. not benchmark numbers but real time speed of opening apps or things like that
Look on you tube real time speed and performance
You just can not go wrong with this phone for that money
Hope you will think about my advice
Not be looking for the best on the market
Evan samsung s8+ users are after one week of use complaining about things couse they also thought for that money s8 would be the best.. and that got dissapointed with it too..
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypUksJ647c
Going back to the original question, it's a fantastic phone but you can try to get it for less than you mentioned. Don't know where you live but in the UK every now and then the price gets really good. The other day one of the supermarket chains was selling them for £200 and for that kind of money it's a no-brainer.
Bii @sysak
Thanks for the you tube link
That is what I try to say about this phone and real time performans.. ?
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Bii @sysak
Thanks for the you tube link
That is what I try to say about this phone and real time performans..
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Depends on what you value.
It's a "value" phone so it sits on a sweet spot. If you value bug correction and updates, I would say definitely no. If you want a nice phone and are a basic user, then yes, get it.
Please just don't go on any trade-in program with Honor/Huawei. My Honor7 had zero scratches (always tempered glass and protective case) and after receiving my phone on their side, they lowered £10 on the evaluation. i rejected it in the 20th March. I haven't received my phone back yet. :crying:
The brand cares about new customers, not so much about existing ones (it's my 2nd Honor). Hence why the budget goes to advertisement and not to supporting developing community or regular updates/fixes.
Hii @zinko_pt
Thanks for the answer
And I must say I had evan phones wich were missing evan what we have right now with this honor 8
Couse this phone has some software support but its slow like for the ota updates
But had some cheaper phones from like LG wich were stuck at what came out of the box and that was it.. but then I had some phones like Samsung A5 2016 wich are the same price but are not evan close to this phone with its premium build and better support and for the same price evan better benchmarks.. so that is also for A5 2017 where you pay just the overpriced Samsung name..
So yes, it indeed is in some kind of price to value sweet spot..and I would recommend it evan now after one year.. so evan this year of 2017 it is a good phone to buy... Like an flagship for the midrange class
francesco_mnz said:
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
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I just upgraded from the Z3 compact, and although the large format is hard to handle with one hand, mostly everything else about the phone is a huge step up from the Z3 series. The Honor's camera is very sharp with greater detail than the Z3 and at nearly half the price, it's hard to beat for the money. Like any phone in this price range, it's not perfect, but it's flaws are outweighed by it's value.
It doesn't hold charge while sleeping the way Sony does, but it sips battery while in use like a tiny bird. I easily get 6-7hrs of screen on time where I couldn't get more than 4 with the Z3C.
The single speaker is louder than the dual Sony speakers but won't win any awards for sound quality.
And though it has its quirks, EMUI is way more customizable than Sony ever could be, and I'm not talking about silly themes.
Finally, nothing beats this fingerprint reader.
Go for it! The Honor 9 might be better, but there's always something new coming out. If you really want to upgrade again, sell the Honor 8.
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-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
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Honor 6 was released with android 4 and later updated to 5.x and then to 6.0.x, if we are lucky, probably honor 8 will get O as well.
Display and battery are good.
Thanks to everyone. I don't know why, but the Honor 8 price is rising instead of dropping:/ a couple of months ago I could get it for more or less 320€, now it's like 345€:/
I'm in a very similar situation since I got my Honor 8 to replace a dying Sony Z2.
I really liked my Z2, and even being as old as it was, there is no phone out there that I would have voluntarily given up my Z2 for.
That said, I am happy with my H8, and I am not looking back.
In their times, the Z2 and Z3 were both high-end phones. I would call the H8 a mid-range phone.
If you are willing to spend upwards of US$500, then there are better phones out there -- Sony XZ, Huawei P9 Pro... etc.
Like a previous post said, the H8 does not have stereo speakers, but the sound from the single speaker at the bottom is better than my Z2 was. The Z2 had a specific problem with the speaker phone being low... I can now actually use my speaker phone.
The H8 also lacks the water proof feature of the high-end Sony's. While I never immersed my Z2, it seemed to die of something that could have been moisture intrusion.
Point is that I really do not miss either of those features in daily use.
Sony was excellent with updates. Only a Nexus device (or Pixel, or whatever) could have been better. I am hoping that Huawei supports this phone for a while, but I would have to say that IMHO expecting them to be as good as Sony was in this respect is not a reasonable expectation. Notice also that I said ..."as good as Sony was". Sony seems to be shrinking in the market, so going forward, they may not be as good as they were.
Camera: My Sony would shoot 4K video --- for about 30 seconds before it would either produce an file that ate all available storage, or it would over heat. I never used it. For anything other than comparing specs (anything practical) I think I can actually do more cool/impressive photography with the H8.
Speed: I have no speed complaints at all with the H8. I've never noticed a lag or anything happening at a speed that would even begin to cause frustration. Processor speed and cost caused the H8 to easily win out for me over the XZ.
Another thing that should not be ignored is Huawei's reputation for building better radios. With both this phone and an old Honor 2, I notice better signal (real, and number of bars) in fringe areas.
Lastly, the feel of the H8 must be mentioned. The feel/build quality/whatever you want to call it is better than any other phone in it's price class.
I agree with the other poster that said (as you mention -- especially in May of 2017) don't over pay for it. Today it should be viewed strictly as a mid-range daily use phone. Decide which range you are in and act/pay accordingly.
Sony have a great reputation for SW update. I've witness this. Z3C phone and tablet had update until 6.0.1, from a SD801. The only reason there is no oficial Nougat update is because Google doesn't want it to happen. But Z3C was beta for Nougat. I can't even remember how hold is my tablet but runs fantastic, zero bugs.
Now moving on to Huawei/Honor, Emui5.1 is coming out on new devices, not available on old.
P9 flagship is still Emui5. Not even mentioning 7.1.1 or latest security updates. When and if they're implemented, they're already outdated.
Honor7 got 1 OS version update and no Nougat. Not even the promised 2 year support.
If we take examples from other brands (OnePlus is also under fire due to false promises about software updates) software updates might be, if not are actually be, the number one thing users get disappointed.
There's definitely a trend amongst some manufacturers to drop support too soon for devices. Apple, very much bashed, is an example of OS support, which is sad.
I heard Honor US has promised to provide this region with two years of updated. Even if they don't, root.
Aside from being able to have exploits run that require root and breaking whatever OTAs we get It's unclear what the point of rooting would be on the Honor 8. There isn't much you can do unless I'm missing something.
Windvcloud said:
Recommend you consider the P10 lite
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P10 lite instead of Honor 8?
P10 lite:
1. Micro USB
2. No IR
3. Kirin 658< Kirin 950
4. DDR3 RAM
5. Mali T830MP2 (40.8 GFlops)
Honor 8:
1. USB- C
2. IR blaster
3. Kirin 950> Kirin 658
4. DDR4 RAM for 4Gb version
5. Mali T840MP2 (122.4GFlops)
6. Fast battery charging
If you are concerned about constant update flagship phone are your best bet. Honor 8 is in a bad position because of it is a sub brand and has a smaller team you won't get update as often. However it is still a flagship of honor brand thus might qualify for 2 yr support. If you can buy it at the price of midrange phone like p10lite go ahead coz it's a capable phone you won't feel like it's a cheap phone performance wise come android O.
brljak83 said:
Hii @zinko_pt
Thanks for the answer
And I must say I had evan phones wich were missing evan what we have right now with this honor 8
Couse this phone has some software support but its slow like for the ota updates
But had some cheaper phones from like LG wich were stuck at what came out of the box and that was it.. but then I had some phones like Samsung A5 2016 wich are the same price but are not evan close to this phone with its premium build and better support and for the same price evan better benchmarks.. so that is also for A5 2017 where you pay just the overpriced Samsung name..
So yes, it indeed is in some kind of price to value sweet spot..and I would recommend it evan now after one year.. so evan this year of 2017 it is a good phone to buy... Like an flagship for the midrange class
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It all comes down to promises: if a brand makes a promise to support a device for 2 years and release the source code, and then disregard them, it makes untrustworthy. Simple.
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Rommco05 said:
Huawei have allready implemented features from 7.1.1 they dont need this update (except security patch). P8lite rollout with EMUI 4.0 and after some time was updated to EMUI
4.1. Its true Honor and users was confused with Nougat updates, but now start (slowly) pushing realy good updates... In my opinion, one time push to our devices EMUI 5.1 and maybe Android O...
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That "except" is the tricky part isn't it? It's security, something with you should roll your dices and see how it goes. We can discuss features but not so security. And Huawei/Honor is always way behind schedule to release security patches. Just not acceptable.

Pixel in 2018 (coming over from Samsung)

Hi guys,
As you could tell from the title; I have an opportunity to buy a nearly-mint condition smaller Pixel, white color, for a pretty good price.
Currently I'm rocking a Galaxy S7 and have been satisfied with it; the only thing I'd change is the software. Being a fan of pure Android, I'd love myself a Pixel; hence the question: would you recommend it as a phone to use for the next year/year and a half?
Also, and maybe more importantly, I'd like to ask you to tell me some of your annoyances with the Pixel - both hardware and maybe software.
Not to take any more of your time; stay well and happy flashing!
harisyks said:
Hi guys,
As you could tell from the title; I have an opportunity to buy a nearly-mint condition smaller Pixel, white color, for a pretty good price.
Currently I'm rocking a Galaxy S7 and have been satisfied with it; the only thing I'd change is the software. Being a fan of pure Android, I'd love myself a Pixel; hence the question: would you recommend it as a phone to use for the next year/year and a half?
Also, and maybe more importantly, I'd like to ask you to tell me some of your annoyances with the Pixel - both hardware and maybe software.
Not to take any more of your time; stay well and happy flashing!
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I would go for it. Its pretty easy to develop for and I plan on releasing a couple roms hopefully within a few weeks. It has pretty average battery life I would say. If I'm somewhere with horrible signal and I just play games I fan get 3 hours, which is pretty good. If you have decent signal and don't play a ton of games you will probably get 6hours sot. Also if there is any software issues you can just flash a factory image from google that will return your phone to stock. Camera is obviously great. One annoyance is I would say speakers aren't amazing. They aren't terrible but definitely could be improved. It doesn't get very hot either. The display is great for 1080p. I would say this phone will hold up for a while, its a pretty good phone.
shagbag913 said:
I would go for it. Its pretty easy to develop for and I plan on releasing a couple roms hopefully within a few weeks. It has pretty average battery life I would say. If I'm somewhere with horrible signal and I just play games I fan get 3 hours, which is pretty good. If you have decent signal and don't play a ton of games you will probably get 6hours sot. Also if there is any software issues you can just flash a factory image from google that will return your phone to stock. Camera is obviously great. One annoyance is I would say speakers aren't amazing. They aren't terrible but definitely could be improved. It doesn't get very hot either. The display is great for 1080p. I would say this phone will hold up for a while, its a pretty good phone.
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I got it but I have an amazing issue. Everything was working but then I updated to 8.1.0 March security patch and my microphone and speakers don't work. Calls connect sometimes but the phone often hangs. I've Googled the **** out of everything and no solution. Are you familiar with this?
harisyks said:
I got it but I have an amazing issue. Everything was working but then I updated to 8.1.0 March security patch and my microphone and speakers don't work. Calls connect sometimes but the phone often hangs. I've Googled the **** out of everything and no solution. Are you familiar with this?
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That doesn't sound too good. Is there any way you could get logs? Or flash a factory image? Because there was a manufacturing defect in the pixels that caused a crack in the solder joint of the audio codec. Does a reboot fix the issue?
I got a Pixel 6 months ago after years of sony phones. I don't regret it. Like you Im very happy with stock android and I am always on the very latest version. At the moment I'm on 8.1 stock, rooted with twrp, xposed and custom kernel. There are custom roms available on these forums if that's your thing. Unlocking bl is easy, so root is easy. So long as you don't get a verizon in the US or EE in the UK. Unlocking your bl is a problem on pixels on these networks.
The phone itself, whilst not spectacular is very good. After my Sony phones constantly having problems with the screen coming loose Im looking for this pixel to be robust and reliable. So far so good. I've got the 128 gb but do miss an sd card. Makes wiping data so much easier but it's not a big problem.
There are monthly updates from Google and my understanding is the pixel will be supported until October 2019. I'm waiting for android p, the developer version is already available, so should get this in the next couple of months.
Oh and the camera is very very good
Overall would highly recommend. Always being on the latest android is the big plus for me.

Vivo PD1805F_EX_A_8.11.1 central discussion

0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in?
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed?
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem?
3. Battery performance
4. Any new feature/bug
5. Any other business
chanlokhung said:
0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in?
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed?
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem?
3. Battery performance
4. Any new feature/bug
5. Any other business
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1. Notification problem not fixed as far as I can tell.
2. Too early to tell as I just installed it.
3. Too early to tell
4. Some bloatware, Hot Apps and Hot Games. Still looking for anything else.
5. Will update my experience in the next few days.
This is a real shame and I'm going to have to start looking for another phone since this may be the last update we receive. Why they wouldn't address the notification problem is baffling.
Twotems said:
1. Notification problem not fixed as far as I can tell.
2. Too early to tell as I just installed it.
3. Too early to tell
4. Some bloatware, Hot Apps and Hot Games. Still looking for anything else.
5. Will update my experience in the next few days.
This is a real shame and I'm going to have to start looking for another phone since this may be the last update we receive. Why they wouldn't address the notification problem is baffling.
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It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
Number 8 said:
It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
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Agreed in hardware vivo nex is one of the best especially the coolest s845 among all phones i've tried. Its infamous software is undoubtly agreed by the majority in this forum.
BTW: The worst software maintenance I have ever had is ASUS. Just a quick tip for those concerning software update quality.
Number 8 said:
It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
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I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
chanlokhung said:
Agreed in hardware vivo nex is one of the best especially the coolest s845 among all phones i've tried. Its infamous software is undoubtly agreed by the majority in this forum.
BTW: The worst software maintenance I have ever had is ASUS. Just a quick tip for those concerning software update quality.
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It's funny you say that because I'll probably be getting the Zenfone 7 Pro. I had a Zenfone 2 and had zero issues with it. The Zenfone 7 meets all my requirements especially the full screen. But in addition a huge battery, NFC, all the 5G bands and it's US/Taiwanese so a lot more secure than the Chinese phones I've been using exclusively for the past 7 years.
Twotems said:
I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
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I can't stand the punch hole fad, that is one of the reasons I love my NEX. Here where I live note10+ is around 700-800$ and the newest note20 ultra is around 1300$ which is crazy to pay for a phone. And it's not worth it anyway, it's almost the same as note10+. I just need a phone close to 7" display, no punch hole and 90hz+. Can't find any, closest is oneplus 7t pro, but it's basically the same as NEX.
Mate 20x 5g seems like a nice phone...
Number 8 said:
I can't stand the punch hole fad, that is one of the reasons I love my NEX. Here where I live note10+ is around 700-800$ and the newest note20 ultra is around 1300$ which is crazy to pay for a phone. And it's not worth it anyway, it's almost the same as note10+. I just need a phone close to 7" display, no punch hole and 90hz+. Can't find any, closest is oneplus 7t pro, but it's basically the same as NEX.
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That's why I'm seriously considering the Zenfone 7. It's got everything I need including 90hz. I don't use or need wireless charging (especially with a 5000mah battery) or waterproofing. They've also committed to two years of updates which is good enough for me. One more thing (from when I had the old one) is a very active forum and good customer service unlike Vivo.
Twotems said:
I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
It's funny you say that because I'll probably be getting the Zenfone 7 Pro. I had a Zenfone 2 and had zero issues with it. The Zenfone 7 meets all my requirements especially the full screen. But in addition a huge battery, NFC, all the 5G bands and it's US/Taiwanese so a lot more secure than the Chinese phones I've been using exclusively for the past 7 years.
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My experience is Padfone S, the most horrible things in the world. For hardware part, the screen dies (after 360 days of purchase) right before warranty ends (365 days). They should have timed better so that I need to change my phone after 366 days.
For software part,
The system is eating up all rams and getting unusable after android 5 updates. For other 2GB ram phones across the same period are able to at least keep 2 apps opened. Every single app need to be reloaded after switching between apps. They didn't even plan to release android 6 which they promised 2 years of software support until fury in the Taiwan forum and someone is going to sue the company. And you can guess the result, the android 6 software is also a piece of **** with countless bugs.
My iPhone 7 plus has been using for 4 years and still doing very well (smooth) in today's applications. If divides the price by the number of years it's performing, it is much cheaper than Padfone S which becomes unusable after 3 months of purchase.
F**k ASUS.
chanlokhung said:
My experience is Padfone S, the most horrible things in the world. For hardware part, the screen dies (after 360 days of purchase) right before warranty ends (365 days). They should have timed better so that I need to change my phone after 366 days.
For software part,
The system is eating up all rams and getting unusable after android 5 updates. For other 2GB ram phones across the same period are able to at least keep 2 apps opened. Every single app need to be reloaded after switching between apps. They didn't even plan to release android 6 which they promised 2 years of software support until fury in the Taiwan forum and someone is going to sue the company. And you can guess the result, the android 6 software is also a piece of **** with countless bugs.
My iPhone 7 plus has been using for 4 years and still doing very well (smooth) in today's applications. If divides the price by the number of years it's performing, it is much cheaper than Padfone S which becomes unusable after 3 months of purchase.
F**k ASUS.
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That's too bad. My girlfriend is still using my Padfone X (At&t) from 2014 on 4.4 Kitkat and it's not the greatest but it's still good for media. I also have a Google Nexus 2013 (by Asus) but the screen broke and I can't find one so it's retired now. Never had a problem with any of them or my Zenfone 2.
Most people rooted and changed the rom on the Padfone S and it performed very well I hear. If you love your iPhone so much then stick with it. Personally I could never use such a restrictive OS.
I notice my GPS google crash, cant use now..try to reinstall and nothing happend
Twotems said:
That's why I'm seriously considering the Zenfone 7. It's got everything I need including 90hz. I don't use or need wireless charging (especially with a 5000mah battery) or waterproofing. They've also committed to two years of updates which is good enough for me. One more thing (from when I had the old one) is a very active forum and good customer service unlike Vivo.
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I'd like to have edge display once again, the last time I got it few years ago on my s6 edge+... Got the update just now and it does not fix the whatsapp not showing on lockscreen, another s.hit update from VIVO...
Number 8 said:
I'd like to have edge display once again, the last time I got it few years ago on my s6 edge+... Got the update just now and it does not fix the whatsapp not showing on lockscreen, another s.hit update from VIVO...
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WhatsApp shows on my lockscreen with no issues. My problem is delayed notifications which they didn't address.
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martinjo24 said:
I notice my GPS google crash, cant use now..try to reinstall and nothing happend
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What's GPS Google?
Its okay now
Full recovery Update: http://in-sysuptxdl.vivoglobal.com/...8182309235b0187adcd5ad67d74dbc394d81fe947.zip
0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in? France but like Indian version (aka International)
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed ? Not so, i don't have this issue
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem? Seems ok here
3. Battery performance Waiting for full cycle to understand but actually seems bad
4. Any new feature/bug An huge upgrade on camera can be nice, because Vivo can easily fight againt GCam for my opinion
5. Any other business Stay safe and protect your family, it's important

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