Safe Quick Charging values for the U11? - HTC U11 Questions & Answers

Hi everyone!
I just recently got a 3rd party refurbished U11 to tinker with as I really missed Android. I loved it, but the USB-C charging port seemingly "fried" days after using it in the middle of a charging session. I noticed the port and included USB-C to A cable were very hot. This cable and accompanying "quick charging" adapter were a cheap wholesale combo that were included with the phone, not OEM charger equipment.
I got a replacement from the seller and everything has been smooth since, but I highly suspect the questionable charger and cable for the damage from the first round. I haven't used the included quick charger yet and have instead been alternating between my buddy's MacBook Pro USB-C charger (fantastic, btw, really long cable and amazing charge time), and an Amazon Basics USB-C to A 2.0 cable in conjunction with an OEM Samsung adaptive quick charge adapter (adequate and seems promising).
What I'm wondering, though, is:
A). Am I crazy for thinking that cheap charger fried the first phone?
B). If it is indeed plausible, will the Amazon Basics cable I'm using be safe and reliable in the long run? I've done some research regarding USB-C cables, safe and standard resistance in compliant cables, and quick charge in general, but I'm having trouble coming to a conclusion.
Attached is an image of some charging information from when my phone was plugged into the Samsung adapter via the Amazon cable. If anyone could give me some insight I would be greatly appreciative. I love this phone and want to make sure I'm not doing anything that could potentially damage it.

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Cheap wireless charging plate

Anybody else tried this charging plate ? I just bought one from eBay and it works 100% with my lumia 820 just by putting it on the mat!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171026676132?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Wireless Charger
Could you tell me what the benefits are when using this wireless charger compared to the regular charger? I've seen some videos about it and, to me, it looks pointless having a wireless charger, which is in fact, wired. The only difference that there is, or so I think, is that you don't have your phone directly connected with the charger via micro usb cable - you put it on the "plate", which is wired to the charger itself and you charge your phone. What I'm trying to say is that either of the chargers limit you by the cable and I don't see the "wireless" in the wireless charger. All it does is save you a second to unplug your phone. Again, that's what I think. Your opinion may be different and that's why I'm asking you to tell me the benefits
a) You can place your phone down and charge it without searching for a cable that's slipped down the back of furniture
2) say you run a café - put these on the tables to allow customers to charge and stop them plugging random ass chargers into your sockets
III) It's a fad, but freaking cool - WIRE LESS charging. Sit and think about that.
Also, it's on a mobile phone, so saying it's pointless is slightly hypocritical as it's attached to a device that's USP was not needing to be plugged into the wall
Thanks just ordered one of the Qi Mats. Pemda obviously hasn't had any failed leads or charger ports. Im on my 5th or 6th lead with my M9, all fail after a while.
On my m7 i have had 3 new charger ports fitted by HTC, no worrying about the charger port on my lumia

[Q] Working USB car charger while navigating

Since I already tried 4 USB car chargers (Osungo Carjuice 2.1A, Belkin 2.1A, Ewent 2.1A, Belkin 1A) with several USB cables (my intention is to use this cable I got from dx.com), but none of the combinations succeeded in charging my N5 while using navigation on the road.
In the settings menu -> battery all of them display Charging (AC) when plugged in my car.
During night time they keep the battery around the same level and during day time the battery percentage even slowly drops.
I'm going to perform some measurements later today with Battery Monitor Widget and/or Currentwidget to get some numbers.
The stores close-by only sell this stuff for ridiculous prices, so I spent enough money on gas already. I haven't ordered anything online yet since it seems nothing is guaranteed to work and therefore I don't want to deal with the hassle of return processes plus shipping costs.
The only car charger that does work is the charger that came with my Galaxy Nexus car holder, but I never liked that charger since it doesn't have a coiled cable so the cable is all over the place across your dash and it has no universal USB connection to charge all kind of devices in your car.
Also I'm looking for a solution which doesn't require soldering of some sort.
Does the USB car charger + coiled USB cable which I'm looking for even exist and why is it so hard to just get a working car charger for your N5?
Today I did some measurements with Currentwidget and the problem lies in the cable which I got from Dealextreme.
When I tested with the USB cable which came with the N5 all chargers work fine.
Now I hope I can find a coiled USB cable which works just like the original N5 cable for a decent price.
Found one from Mediabridge, but it seems this cable isn't available in the Netherlands and on Ebay shipping costs are insane.
Does the 1A charger still charge the phone while navigating? Or is a 2.1A charger needed?
Rhatfield25 said:
Does the 1A charger still charge the phone while navigating? Or is a 2.1A charger needed?
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Both can charge the phone while navigating, as long as you use the right cable.
Very annoying since there is no way to tell which cable is good and which cable is not good.
This was also noticed in the following threads:
[Q] Terrible charge rate?
Need good car charger recommendations please
Discharging while using Navigation
Tried the cable which came with the HTC OEM Car Charger CC C200, together with a 2.1mAh car charger and it barely charged the N5 while navigating. The charging level went up 1% in about 25 minutes time, in comparison if you use the cable which came with the N5 the level will have gone up around 15-20%.
The Mediabridge cables (such as this one) should suffice (available on Amazon and Ebay).
Since those are not available in Europe and shipping costs are way too high, I now found an alternative from Speedlink. Hopefully this one will work just as good as the original N5 USB cable.
I am using PowerGen 2.1A car charger with 3' Samsung OEM usb cable and able to charge the phone while using Navigation, brightness at full, and streaming tune-in on LTE. Very happy with the setup.
I had a monoprice 10' usb cable, the thick version with cap on ends, the 3' samsung oeum usb cable works much better. Testing on my old phone Optimus G Pro, there are about +200mA improvement using the 3' samsung oem usb cable over the monoprice 10' usb cable. so make sure to use the shortest usb cable possible.

Charging Pixel with old phone chargers

As I'm sure is the case for many of you, I have a ton of typical USB chargers around the house, which supply anywhere from 0.8A to 1.5A output. Going with the assumption that I don't care how long it takes to charge, is there any risk with using the USB C-A cable that came with my pixel and plugging into any of those old USB chargers? They should all work, right? Just as different speeds depending on the output current?
I am not an expert, but from my research into the safety of USB-A to USB-C cables, the "risk" will generally come as a result of purchasing a cheap cable that does not have the appropriate (56k) resistor. The cable that came directly from google has the appropriate resistor and is not low quality, so it will be safe to plug into any functioning USB port (either on your computer or a charger).
That being said, if you have a malfunctioning charger, or there is power surge etc., that is an "act of god" and what happens happens
You may actually be better off using these old chargers if they work correctly. The slower you charge your phone, the better it is for the longevity (years) of your battery.
Yeah, that is why I didn't care about charging speed. For plugging it in next to my bed each night, I figure slower is better. However, I just received a mini USB to USB C from Amazon, and used that to plug my pixel in last night to a 1a charger. And while the phone did say charging over USB, it didn't gain any battery overnight and instead continued to discharge until I woke up in the morning. Is anyone else seeing anything like that?
Not trying to be mean or name call but I personally think you all are crazy. Buying a $700 phone and using a cheap charger that could have the risk to break your phone. Especially if you know better. Honestly, spending the $30-$40 from a charger from Google or an approved charger is just smart for the long term and not risk losing $700. Just my 2 cents. I did the same for the car charger.
Sure, I hear your point. But honestly I know that it is better for the battery to charge slower, so I would rather use a low power charger next to my bed each night, and only use the included quick charger when I need a quick top-off.
BlueWRXPride said:
Sure, I hear your point. But honestly I know that it is better for the battery to charge slower, so I would rather use a low power charger next to my bed each night, and only use the included quick charger when I need a quick top-off.
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Have to consider 2 points since there are so many inaccuracies about this subject:
1) Inadequate chargers with insufficient output cause batteries to become overheated, consequently reduce battery charging cycles. Smart batteries are not adversely affected by certified quick chargers.
2) Turbo chargers do not "top off". When a battery gets to around 80%, the appropriate charger begins its slower charging as to not overload it. Once at 100%, charging stops, and the maintenance process begins. As battery level drops to around 97.6%, trickle charging begins.
In sum, a certified, OEM-equivalent quick charger, even with higher output would not damage batteries.
The phone supports most standards however usb c and Qualcomm quick charge are not compatible and you fall back to 5v 3 amp at best. Make sure to fully insert the cable into the phone. It has to click. I've accidently not charged overnight that way.
I've got a bunch of turbo chargers that I've accumulated over the years. Using a non-[manufacturer of current phone] charger has never damaged my phone. I just bought a 10 pack of USB C adapters and popped one on every charger so I can continue using my old ones. No issues yet and I don't anticipate any.
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joshw0000 said:
I've got a bunch of turbo chargers that I've accumulated over the years. Using a non-[manufacturer of current phone] charger has never damaged my phone. I just bought a 10 pack of USB C adapters and popped one on every charger so I can continue using my old ones. No issues yet and I don't anticipate any.
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Sure, you can use non-oem chargers. That's not the problem. Issues only potentially arise when the chargers do not provide adequate output, or their "smart" capabilities are not up to specs. I use all kinds of chargers bought at Verizon, Best Buy, etc. I also use Amazon chargers as long as they're not too far off OEM requirements. Also, people don't think about the importance of a good, thick cable.
I have a ton of Samsung fast chargers and Samsung USB a to c cables . Would those be safe?
parmend said:
I have a ton of Samsung fast chargers and Samsung USB a to c cables . Would those be safe?
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Many will say no big deal. However, I'd say let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Here's Google engineer Benson Leung https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX. You be the judge.
Bottom line, to answer your question, no, quick charging methodology used by Samsung and Motorola is not supported by the Pixel. Your phone will charge at a slower rate. Will it damage the phone in the long run? Likely not. Well, I'll let you guys test for me.

[Review] CHOETECH USB A-C Cable with Current Voltage Monitor (3.3ft/1m)

I recently received a CHOETECH USB A-C Cable with Current Voltage Monitor for review and I have got to say its come in really handy so far.
I've always wondered just how much current I was getting from my many chargers that all claimed to be up to 2.4A. I know from there various different charge times that they weren't all providing what they marketed at. This tool has come in really handy for helping me weed out the good chargers from the bad.
Before anyone comments that this cable wont allow my nexus 6p to charge at the 3A that it is capable of I know this already, but this cable has allowed me to test me standard USB-A port powerbanks and car chargers that I still use with USB A-C cables. I know USB-C equivalents are available but I don't see the point in replacing my old chargers for the benefit of 600mA.
The CHOETECH cable comes in a nicely presented package that gives basic info about the product.
The cable is neatly coiled up using rubber bands to keep it safe in transit and the instructions that come with it are both clear and concise.
Using that cable is as easy as just plugging it in and it works straight away, alternating between voltage and current.
I found this cable to be alot more accurate than apps that I have tried to use in the past giving me results that I would expect to see from the charging device I was using.
Usings a mains adapter gave me the best charging current while a cheap nasty car charger gave me very poor current but I suspected this from my charge times. Apps I had used in the past gave me very unreliable results so I am glad I've bow got this cable.
I'll definitely get my use out of this.
On a side note, even without the volt/ammeter this is still a very good quality charging cable and it doesn't interfere with data transfers. I would definitely recommend to anyone interested.
If anyone in the UK is interested in one if these cables or the Micro USB equivalent I've got some discount codes that reduce the price down to £6 which is a bargain for these cables.
USB C Cable with Current Voltage Monitor (3.3ft)
Code: 5M9WY7AX (price:£6)
Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MTX38LW
Micro USB Cable with Current Voltage Monitor (3.3ft)
Code: 5M9WY7AX (price:£6)
Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MYW7GZ3
Hope someone can make use of these.
Great stuff, thanks for the post faybarn. I just bought one of their USB-A to USB-C cables (without current / voltage monitor though).
is there any other options on this that's available to ebay or aliexpress???

USB-C - USB C and other cables not charging, only USB-C - USB-A cable works???

Hey All, new to this forum but have done my fair share of lurking so will contribute as much as I can.
This problem that I've encountered is puzzling me. At first I thought my port on my phone was broken and have ordered a replacement part but before I do that and do a factory reset I was wondering if anyone has had similar problems. Hoping its a software problem bc of Android OS 10
- So oem usb-c to usb-c with fast charge (OEM) doesn't work
- 2 other usb-c to usb-c with fast chargers dont work.
- usb-c to usb-a with regular charger (think its 1a-2a) works, slow charge as expected when off faster but still slower
Any ideas outside of factory reset and port replacement??
Before you go to too much trouble, make sure the bottom of the port is clear of pocket lint or other debris that might keep the cable from fully seating in the port.
I recently bought the following ugreen cables, working just fine, rapid charge, etc
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32679851391.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.29cc4c4dvBCnKC
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32421088643.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.29cc4c4dvBCnKC
black pvc in both cases
working with original charger and a tronsmart quick charge 2.0
We have 2x 2XLs at home - I recently found out that one of the OEM cables was not working properly and charging only when IT decides.
I bought a new one from Aliexpress for a few USD and now it works/charges everytime (with the OEM adapter).

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