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Mate 9 Pro Daydream

I've updated my L29-c636 to the latest 181 version. I see that daydream vr been installed, so I bought the Daydream View headset. Went through the setup process, only to find that I get a black screen when I'm told to put the phone in the vr headset. Daydream seems to be working partially as I can hear some birds from the phone's speakers. I can increase or decrease the volume using the remotre, and there is an x and settings cog in either of the upper corners. Other than that though, nothing, nada: black screen only.
Anyone else have a similar experience?

I have LON-L29C721 and no update available Anybody else ?

Try firmware finder, it seems like 181 is authenticated.

I used firmware finder app to upgrade to LON-L29C636B181 (still on locked bootloader), which worked fine. No Daydream VR controller yet, so couldn't get past the controller pairing menu.

Cool, if you do get one, see if you can view something. Btw, I read someone had used another phone to simulate the controller, not sure if it's genuinely possible though.

drdino said:
I've updated my L29-c636 to the latest 181 version. I see that daydream vr been installed, so I bought the Daydream View headset. Went through the setup process, only to find that I get a black screen when I'm told to put the phone in the vr headset. Daydream seems to be working partially as I can hear some birds from the phone's speakers. I can increase or decrease the volume using the remotre, and there is an x and settings cog in either of the upper corners. Other than that though, nothing, nada: black screen only.
Anyone else have a similar experience?
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how did you get 181 to download with firmware finder?
I only see 2 OTA's for 181, not a full file..
thanks

With firmware finder proxy. Selected the ota, changed the proxy settings as the app dictates and used the phone's menu to search for an update. As soon as it started downloading, I removed the proxy settings.

thanks; I didn't think of switching to the "system" update option once it started to download, but I did, and now its downloaded it and it installed B181 perfectly!..thanks again:good::good::good:

LON-C636 here. I tried both OTA updates on Firmware Finder and them both gave me "Authentication failed" dialog
Seems that it's rolling out in phases again

yfnew said:
LON-C636 here. I tried both OTA updates on Firmware Finder and them both gave me "Authentication failed" dialog
Seems that it's rolling out in phases again
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Same here... and its annoying to have to keep trying it and fail - chewing up heaps of bandwidth... i guess im just impatient lol. My FF shows 3 different updates.. one that says "FullOTA-MF" which is 2.353gb and then two smaller ones (509mb and 615mb) which just say "OTA-MF".. its strange they have 2 differing smaller ones.. either way I have tried all 3 of these, and none work yet.

Called Huawei UK support and they said that all updates including the daydream support rols out in CHINA followed by USA, followed by Western Europe and then all others. There can be up to 7 days delay between regions. Ah well..

Ok, i tested LON-L29C636B181 with Daydream view and saw the same result as drdino, aka: everything looks good up to the point when it asks to insert the phone into the viewer. The background just stays black and does not start to show the video. Foreground is just the white separator bar, X and settings icon.
If i quickly switch off/on the phone, then i will see a quick blink of the VR video, so this seems to be some rendering problem.
Not sure what i could still do myself - except factory reset. But i do not dare because right now i do depend a lot on the phone (no good backup phone at the moment).
Given how i have an overseas model, i have not yet found a way to effectively complain to Huawei. I had contacted Huawei on the US once about the mate 9 pro (different issue), but they refused politely given how they do not sell it.
I did open a case with google though, not sure if that helps. Daydream app -> Settings (VR Settings) -> Help -> Contact Us -> Call
Google promised to send me an email about the case i opened with them, but i have not yet received any email. Maybe others here with the same problem on the Mate 9 Pro could also call up google, maybe someone will succeed bringing this problem to someones attention.

Same here, I chatted with Google for about an hour, and reached the same result, i.e. they will email me.
I think it's a display rendering issue, as I can see the momentary flicker as well.
An additional issue that I discovered is that the phone's nfc reader is on top, above the camera, whereas the headset's nfc tag is in the middle of the flap. For what it's worth, I copied an nfc tag and stuck it on the leftmost side of the flap but got the same result.
To replicate the flicker, you can try sticking the phone on top of the headset's nfc tag, it's reproducible maybe 4/10 times.

buntyji said:
Called Huawei UK support and they said that all updates including the daydream support rols out in CHINA followed by USA, followed by Western Europe and then all others. There can be up to 7 days delay between regions. Ah well..
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I am not even aware of any official USA or north-america versions of Mate 9 Pro or Mate 9 Porsche. All i can see are just overseas versions. This article https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/huaweis-mate-9-pro-finally-supports-daydream.html also claims "Google also reiterates that the Mate 9 Pro and the Mate 9 Porsche Design are both available in the U.S., the UK, Germany, Australia, and Canada". WTF ?!

drdino said:
An additional issue that I discovered is that the phone's nfc reader is on top, above the camera, whereas the headset's nfc tag is in the middle of the flap. For what it's worth, I copied an nfc tag and stuck it on the leftmost side of the flap but got the same result.
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Interesting. I did not even knew that the VR viewer has an NFC chip . Yeah, playing around with it, the reader in the mate 9 pro can not read it when it is inside the viewer, but only when you match up the locations of the reader and the chip. Funny.

te36 said:
I am not even aware of any official USA or north-america versions of Mate 9 Pro or Mate 9 Porsche. All i can see are just overseas versions. This article https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/huaweis-mate-9-pro-finally-supports-daydream.html also claims "Google also reiterates that the Mate 9 Pro and the Mate 9 Porsche Design are both available in the U.S., the UK, Germany, Australia, and Canada". WTF ?!
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LOL think that article is misinformed.. we definitely do NOT have the Mate 9 Pro for sale here in Australia, and when people asked on the Official Twitter / Facebook pages, Huawei AU responded to say it would not be sold. The Porsche Design however, did make a minor appearance here in Australia - Huawei AU did a Auction to raise funds for a charity, in which case they auctioned off 1 (yes ONE) "Limited Edition" Porsche Design Mate 9. We only have the Mate 9 as officially sold here in AU. Believe the same in USA? (or possibly you get the PD there in USA too?)

On Firmware Finder's website I found LON-L29C721B180 where the changelog says that "This update adds Daydream and optimizes system performance and stability." Not sure if this version is authenticated yet, however.

yfnew said:
On Firmware Finder's website I found LON-L29C721B180 where the changelog says that "This update adds Daydream and optimizes system performance and stability." Not sure if this version is authenticated yet, however.
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LON-L29C721B180 is for PD.
Believe some users have mentioned on PD forums they have managed to install it, and some others failed to install (auth failed).. But as per posts above the Daydream maybe not work and gets black screen when they try to add the device into the VR headset - would think the PD would have the same issue...

buntyji said:
Called Huawei UK support and they said that all updates including the daydream support rols out in CHINA followed by USA, followed by Western Europe and then all others. There can be up to 7 days delay between regions. Ah well..
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It's very interesting to see people just get this issue after B181 OTA. I am using LON-AL00C00B175 and found this issue since updated. So it's like couple weeks ago when Google hasn't announced M9P is daydream ready. Also, my friend in Huawei dev team told me Chinese version of M9P wouldn't get daydream support soon. So let's wait and see.

It was B181 that brought daydream support to the International Mate 9 Pro.

Update CLT-AL00 8.1.0.140 C(675)

So far immediate changes observed are animation and camera... will post details tonight after using

suman_pal78 said:
So far immediate changes observed are animation and camera... will post details tonight after using
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Hello Everyone.. Last week got an update for P20 Pro Indian varient. New features as said by P20 Pro in this update were HI Touch Feature, Paytm Finger Print scan support, June Security patch.....!!!
The drawbacks after update were listed below.
1. Charging Time (0 - 50%) taking 54minutes while the phone is switched off. (This is weird)
2. Scrolling (apps menu, settings, Instagram) has huge lagging.
(P20 Pro Global Issues)
Below points were raised by many USERS and they are not reaching to Huawei for corrections. Let us make publish these points together until we succeeding reaching manufacturer.
3. Captured Screenshots were unable to view full after sending to our WhatsApp contacts, To be fixed
4. Still front facing camera beauty mode not yet fix, it's over saturated
5. Slow motion video @960fps not upto the mark
6. Still no EIS for video recording at 4K
7. All the themes and wallpapers in themes app were of EMUI 8.0 only and it should be upgraded to 8.1 for compatibility to EMUI 8.1 (because wallpapers were getting zoom in while inserting to home screen)
8. Still there is no double tap on screen for screen Off/On
9. Huawei Cloud ID is not compatible in India as we can't verify our mobile due to no "India" in the list of regions.. IDIOTIC
10. Security Updates were too slow compared to other high end devices from other companies or carriers
11. Required 3 finger scroll down for screenshot instead of knuckle tap
12. Default call recording option to be added as you just given in Honor View 10.
13. EMUI to be improvised as menu icons to be customized as stock. (because many of us are not liking the big icons and of round borders)
Hope you guys supports...
THANKS IN ADVANCE

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boyapatisasi said:
Hello Everyone.. Last week got an update for P20 Pro Indian varient. New features as said by P20 Pro in this update were HI Touch Feature, Paytm Finger Print scan support, June Security patch.....!!!
and blah blah blah copy paste rants
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Do you really need to post exact same paragraph over few threads ?? It wont make huawei notice it faster. It only annoy other readers. You better ask a technews site to blow up the issue instead.

Im sorry but i think ur dreaming of a perfect phone. Not all issues or features can be addressed. Thats just unrealistic. We buy phones base on their brands due to their features. Each brand has its own feature. They are known cos of their features. Youre asking for a pecfect phone which doesnt exist. Better deal with the flaws and youll live happier.
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nightwing_sw said:
Im sorry but i think ur dreaming of a perfect phone. Not all issues or features can be addressed. Thats just unrealistic. We buy phones base on their brands due to their features. Each brand has its own feature. They are known cos of their features. Youre asking for a pecfect phone which doesnt exist. Better deal with the flaws and youll live happier.
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Hello. We must make our phone perfect by resolving bugs by posting to manufacturer... So they may resolve... If you think like this "perfect" will be in our mind only.. But no, we have to make it possible and you are the one who don't support me... ???

I have a nex with the Global (India) ROM - happy to answer ?'s and one of my one ..

Sold my NEX S from China on ebay and got my hands on a Nex from India with the Global ROM. Happy to answer any questions people have about the global rom. I do have one question that someone might be able to help me with. I am trying to access the smart unlock settings so i can have i stay unlocked when i'm home. When i setup my car for Bluetooth, i got the page asking me if i want to setup smart unlock and did so but now that i want to go back and add a location I can't find it on any settings menu. YouTube and a few other searches had instructions on how to create a settings shortcut to get to the android security menu, but that doesn't work with the NEX. You can setup the shortcut, but it tries to open and immediately closes. I haven't found any way to get to the "Smart Unlock" menu - weird.
Other than that, the phone setup is pretty typical android with all the regular google stuff. You can create a vivo account with just an email verification (no china cell required) and even that's not required. Crazy that the settings section doesn't have a search bar - you have to poke around for everything. The other weird thing I've found so far is even though i selected google gboard as my primary keyboard, for some menus (mostly those related to settings or otherwise data entry points from the OS), it still brings up the default vivo menu (in English). more an annoyance than anything.
Want to make this my daily driver. The only real bummer so far is no NFC; relying on the Samsung pay capability of my gear S3 instead.
No issue changing the default launcher - switched to nova in a few seconds.

Mixed with Edge gestures and funtocuh OS gesture... it's wonderfull

TGUY25 said:
Sold my NEX S from China on ebay and got my hands on a Nex from India with the Global ROM. Happy to answer any questions people have about the global rom. I do have one question that someone might be able to help me with. I am trying to access the smart unlock settings so i can have i stay unlocked when i'm home. When i setup my car for Bluetooth, i got the page asking me if i want to setup smart unlock and did so but now that i want to go back and add a location I can't find it on any settings menu. YouTube and a few other searches had instructions on how to create a settings shortcut to get to the android security menu, but that doesn't work with the NEX. You can setup the shortcut, but it tries to open and immediately closes. I haven't found any way to get to the "Smart Unlock" menu - weird.
Other than that, the phone setup is pretty typical android with all the regular google stuff. You can create a vivo account with just an email verification (no china cell required) and even that's not required. Crazy that the settings section doesn't have a search bar - you have to poke around for everything. The other weird thing I've found so far is even though i selected google gboard as my primary keyboard, for some menus (mostly those related to settings or otherwise data entry points from the OS), it still brings up the default vivo menu (in English). more an annoyance than anything.
Want to make this my daily driver. The only real bummer so far is no NFC; relying on the Samsung pay capability of my gear S3 instead.
No issue changing the default launcher - switched to nova in a few seconds.
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Thank you. That's been very kind of as many people like me are reluctant to try Vivo especially due to that os and spending 45k Rs is a but risky.
1. Launcher setting- So no problems at all setting nova launcher as default launcher so that you can press home key and go straight to nova launcher home page right ? Have you tried any other launcher like Microsoft launcher?
2. Software - So far how many software updates you got. Generally how is the Vivo os updates ? Am not expecting crazy fast updates like OnePlus but still how is it ? Is there any chance that we get core Android updates to Android Pie and Q especially as other companies guarantee ? What about app to app transition and software os lags present after 1 month of usage ? How is th Ui ? Is it irritating? I like rich os like emui or miui rather than stock os.
3. I have seen in Oppo that enabling developer section under settings for changing Ppi or animation speed causes a red or yellow strip to blink across the status bar. Have you checked that ?
4. Display- In specs page , it said Nex has 338 ppi. How is the display ? Not expecting Samsung quality but can we get near to OnePlus 6 display quality in terms of color accuracy and sharpness or clarity ?
5. Audio quality- Have you tried audio via headphone Jack ? Vivo Nex is only the true competitor against LG V and G series in terms of audio and this is the primary sole reason to buy Vivo Nex. How about the loud speaker output ?
6. Call quality and reception- which network you are using here in India ? Does Vivo Nex picks network range pretty well or is it shabby like LG ? Also since no ear piece speaker but peizoelectric vibrating display how is the call volume ? Is it muffled ? Can it be heard in noisy environment ?
7. How is the charging speed ?
Sorry to ask much but too much curious and anxious about Vivo Nex

Answers to your questions (as best I can) below after each question
ben cherian said:
Thank you. That's been very kind of as many people like me are reluctant to try Vivo especially due to that os and spending 45k Rs is a but risky.
1. Launcher setting- So no problems at all setting nova launcher as default launcher so that you can press home key and go straight to nova launcher home page right ? Have you tried any other launcher like Microsoft launcher? Changing default launcher was no problem. I'm using Nova launcher and it functions exactly as it does on other phones
2. Software - So far how many software updates you got. Generally how is the Vivo os updates ? Am not expecting crazy fast updates like OnePlus but still how is it ? Is there any chance that we get core Android updates to Android Pie and Q especially as other companies guarantee ? What about app to app transition and software os lags present after 1 month of usage ? How is th Ui ? Is it irritating? I like rich os like emui or miui rather than stock os. I've gotten two updates so far. The launcher isn't as clean or neat as others and still have some Chinese type features - Jovi, no search under settings and a very few places where bits and pieces of the Chinese rom still poke through. Overall, though, nothing terribly annoying except that the option for smart unlock is hidden and you can't access it.
3. I have seen in Oppo that enabling developer section under settings for changing Ppi or animation speed causes a red or yellow strip to blink across the status bar. Have you checked that ? Crazy, ugly red stripe across the top of the screen when developer options are on. Doesn't affect performance as far as I can tell - just not pretty. Anyone smart enough to enable them knows what they are getting into and don't need a huge red bar across the top as a reminder
4. Display- In specs page , it said Nex has 338 ppi. How is the display ? Not expecting Samsung quality but can we get near to OnePlus 6 display quality in terms of color accuracy and sharpness or clarity ? I think the display is excellent
5. Audio quality- Have you tried audio via headphone Jack ? Vivo Nex is only the true competitor against LG V and G series in terms of audio and this is the primary sole reason to buy Vivo Nex. How about the loud speaker output ? Haven't used headphones yet. phone speaker is very loud and clear
yet
ll quality and reception- which network you are using here in India ? Does Vivo Nex picks network range pretty well or is it shabby like LG ? Also since no ear piece speaker but peizoelectric vibrating display how is the call volume ? Is it muffled ? Can it be heard in noisy environment ? All good here
7. How is the charging speed ? pretty typical - neither very fast or very slow
Overall I like the phone. swipe gestures like iPhone work well - i only wish there was a quick access button for settings. No NFC also stinks. I was using it as a daily driver but stopped as I use NFC a lot If it had NFC I would still be using it as my daily driver
Sorry to ask much but too much curious and anxious about Vivo Nex
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hi thanks for your help first.
Could you please check does it has a Turkish language in supported languages ?

mdb1903 said:
hi thanks for your help first.
Could you please check does it has a Turkish language in supported languages ?
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Turkish is not supported.

To turn off the "secure" keyboard when entering data go to Settings\More settings\Input method\Security Input. Turn off Security input.

i am wondering if the India build Nex suffers from loose buttons? i saw one with the three buttons loose and not as solid as the Chinese 256
to be fair the version i used was pretty abused with dust filling every space

No issue with buttons.

So are these 3 versions that we know of now:
1- Chinese
2- Indian
3- International - Hong Kong .....?
Are the Hong Kong and Indian versions the same with the same pre-installed Play Store and "ok google" working?

crusht said:
So are these 3 versions that we know of now:
1- Chinese
2- Indian
3- International - Hong Kong .....?
Are the Hong Kong and Indian versions the same with the same pre-installed Play Store and "ok google" working?
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yes three versions, my HK version is on the way

Hello,
I have several questions for you and hope you have an answer for me. I have a Nex S with global rom, and I am wanting to remove a lot of the bloatware. I have noticed that when I go into applications that there are 2 "messages" apps but, only one that is accessible. Do you know the propper commands to remove this one? Also, do you know the commands to remove the following:
1. Google Lens.
2. ARCore.
3. Google Play Movies etc.
4. Google Duo

Phaze1585 said:
Hello,
I have several questions for you and hope you have an answer for me. I have a Nex S with global rom, and I am wanting to remove a lot of the bloatware. I have noticed that when I go into applications that there are 2 "messages" apps but, only one that is accessible. Do you know the propper commands to remove this one? Also, do you know the commands to remove the following:
1. Google Lens.
2. ARCore.
3. Google Play Movies etc.
4. Google Duo
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ADB is your friend and same basic pc knowledge
Follow this guide and you are ready
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex/how-to/guide-vivo-nex-s-apps-safe-to-uninstall-t3813308
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Screen Sound Casting
TGUY25 said:
Sold my NEX S from China on ebay and got my hands on a Nex from India with the Global ROM. Happy to answer any questions people have about the global rom. I do have one question that someone might be able to help me with. I am trying to access the smart unlock settings so i can have i stay unlocked when i'm home. When i setup my car for Bluetooth, i got the page asking me if i want to setup smart unlock and did so but now that i want to go back and add a location I can't find it on any settings menu. YouTube and a few other searches had instructions on how to create a settings shortcut to get to the android security menu, but that doesn't work with the NEX. You can setup the shortcut, but it tries to open and immediately closes. I haven't found any way to get to the "Smart Unlock" menu - weird.
Other than that, the phone setup is pretty typical android with all the regular google stuff. You can create a vivo account with just an email verification (no china cell required) and even that's not required. Crazy that the settings section doesn't have a search bar - you have to poke around for everything. The other weird thing I've found so far is even though i selected google gboard as my primary keyboard, for some menus (mostly those related to settings or otherwise data entry points from the OS), it still brings up the default vivo menu (in English). more an annoyance than anything.
Want to make this my daily driver. The only real bummer so far is no NFC; relying on the Samsung pay capability of my gear S3 instead.
No issue changing the default launcher - switched to nova in a few seconds.
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Hi,
How is the screen sound casting when you are calling someone and when you are watching youtube/videos or while video calling someone, it will be great if you compare it with you previous phone or samsung/Iphone.
So, can you please share your experience with gear S3 connecting and usability as compare with samsung galaxy S8
Thanks

EMUI 9.1 for MediaPad M5 is coming soon

As the Titel says, EMUI 9.1 is coming for MediaPad M5 and for more 49 Devices from Huawei and its sub-brand Honor.
The confirmation is from the Chinese club.huawei (see the attachment below)
Why EMUI 9.1 is a really big deal and better than its previous firmware:
PERFORMANCE
Previously, the F2FS file system was tailored for flash memory to improve the read and write performance after long-term use. Now, with EROFS, the random read speed will be 20% faster and the system space will provide extra personal storage of up to 1000 pictures or 500 songs. Plus, the read-only memory design isolates outside interference for added security in your system files.
GPU TURBO 3.0
GPU Turbo 3.0 is a new upgrade that covers 25 of the most popular games. This new update includes reducing SoC power consumption by 10% and optimizing the underlying system performance to provide a continuous gaming experience.
HUAWEI VLOG
It has new features and effects that are perfect tools for easy editing and you can share with one-click. The Highlight videos are automatically edited with dramatic filters and give you the option to apply special speed effects and unique background music. Your cherished videos can be transformed into a personal cinematic masterpiece.
ANYTIME ASSISTANT
Whenever you need to use the virtual assistant to carry out tasks, look up facts or need an answer to a simple question, just press and hold the power button and the Google Assistant will launch in a second.
AR MEASURE
When you need a quick measurement tool for simple DIY projects, just open the AR Measure App. You can accurately measure length, total area and volume with the Huawei TOF Camera.
By utilizing the Face Recognition technology, you can now measure the height of a person with just a simple task of scanning from toe-to-head.
ONEHOP
A simple tap from your phone to the computer can send pictures, videos, and documents in seconds. You can also efficiently copy and paste between devices with Huawei Share OneHop.
And, while playing a game, just shake and touch the phone to your computer to initiate a 60-second recording of the screen1 that saves to your phone.
HUAWEI CARKEY, SECURE AND CONVENIENT
EMUI 9.1 allows you to automatically unlock your car with NFC on your phone when you forget the key and you can share this key with up to 5 people.
You can still unlock your car even if your phone is out of battery. Additionally, you can start your engine using your phone, once the phone is placed inside the secure phone box.
THE PERFECT WORKOUT PARTNER
EMUI 9.1 turns your phone into an ultimate workout partner. Use your phone to connect to a treadmill and collect information like calories burned, running speed and length of the workout.
The phone can also use an algorithm to intelligently measure the step vibrations, so you can accomplish your personal fitness goals.
SIMPLY SWITCH
With HUAWEI Phone Clone, you can simply and quickly transfer your contacts, photos, videos and more to your new phone in just a few moments.
Source: Huaweicentral
And other more detailed Improvements like: (i collected those infos from some Mate 20 pro users):
Navigation Gestures are LOT way better now than EMUI 9.0 (more fluid)
Desktop Mode got some Improvements and fixes too
Battery life is better now (the drain issues got fixed)
Thats all i can remember till now

It also says it's released, I wasted time I stalling the beta app, and setting up Huawei Id only to find I need to insert a SIM card in my WiFi only tablet.....

Chr1stOnABike said:
It also says it's released, I wasted time I stalling the beta app, and setting up Huawei Id only to find I need to insert a SIM card in my WiFi only tablet.....
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You mean you installed the 9.1 update?

No, doesn't seem to be available, and it says I need to insert a SIM card in my WiFi only tablet.

Chr1stOnABike said:
No, doesn't seem to be available, and it says I need to insert a SIM card in my WiFi only tablet.
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Yes, correct, in order to use the beta app you must insert the sim card, but even doing this you won't be able to get the 9.1 as it is not available yet on M5

So there is no point trying this app if you don't have a 4G device?

Chr1stOnABike said:
So there is no point trying this app if you don't have a 4G device?
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Yes, without sim and number it is useless

I got a m5 lte 10.8 can I get the beta version?

I can't even get 9.0 for the US 8" model yet. I'm sure I'll see 9.1 after Android 10 is released.

I'm still running 8.0. Not even a sniff of 9.0 let alone 9.1! Quite disappointed if I'm honest!

littleash88 said:
I'm still running 8.0. Not even a sniff of 9.0 let alone 9.1! Quite disappointed if I'm honest!
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Me too! I checked for updates many times but nothing new
My mediapad details:
Model SHT-W09
Build number SHT-W09 8.0.0.198(C567)
EMUI version 8.0.0
Android version 8.0.0

littleash88 said:
I'm still running 8.0. Not even a sniff of 9.0 let alone 9.1! Quite disappointed if I'm honest!
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Same here!

Got my tablet last week SHT- AL09 LTE
with version 8, checked for updates and went up version 8 in steps. Then was given 9 and more steps to final 9.01.190

I have the same tablet, and same version of the software.
Very nice tab, i like everything about it except for the battery life which is not too good, and also wish it supported VoLTE.

I was wondering, whether it will receive Android Q :-o

I just checked what is the firmware history of Samsung tablets on sammobile. So after 1st year of release they updated their tablet quarterly, and after 2nd year they stops updating. So it is pretty much almost the same. Except that they are much much more expensive devices. Like new tab s6. Great tablet, but quarter updates after 1st year? No thanks.

Got the EMUI 9.1 update (9.1.0.325) on my M5 8.4 WiFi last Saturday (31 August 2019) here in Romania. It's 3,51 GB in size and I got it through OTA.

metadethrax said:
Got the EMUI 9.1 update (9.1.0.325) on my M5 8.4 WiFi last Saturday (31 August 2019) here in Romania. It's 3,51 GB in size and I got it through OTA.
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that's good news !

Just received 9.1 on my M5 10.8 WiFi in the UK as well via o.t.a.

I can confirm that update is rolling out. Just receveid it via ota ( model c432, italian )

Taking the plunge.

I have ordered a Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra and am now waiting for it to be despatched and delivered. I wish I had found this forum earlier and I might have ordered from a different (recommended) seller. I'm told that despatch will be no later than Friday 4th December - we shall see.
I have ordered the Chinese version and have bookmarked a web page which explains how to access the appropriate settings, not being able to read Chinese, by using icons. I'm hoping that I can get through that to convert to English otherwise I'm stuck. I see that unlocking the bootloader is pretty straightforward so I shall start that process as soon as I receive the 'phone.
I have flashed custom ROMs and rooted most of my previous 'phones although now that I'm 84 I have to work from a printed list of instructions in order that I don't forget something. Bad memory comes with age. I haven't yet decided whether or not to flash the European ROM.
I have seen, on the web two differing opinions regarding the Chinese ROM camera and the European ROM camera. I am buying this phone because of its camera and I have seen remarks that infer that the camera in the European ROM is not as good as the one in the Chinese ROM so I am wary of flashing the EU ROM. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Now I just have to wait.

If your device is pristine, at first boot you will be prompted to choose the language.
Some sellers wight do that for you, so you could receive your device already in English and even with google play store installed.
This way or another, you will have to wait 1 week in order to unlock bootloader. Plenty of time for playing with stock rom.
From what I realized, I could be easily staying with stock rom. But now I am sure that switching to EU rom is the only way to go. I moved to EU rom right after unlocking and never looked back.
As for camera question - I am enjoying EU rom camera, nothing bad so far.

batareikin51 said:
If your device is pristine, at first boot you will be prompted to choose the language.
Some sellers wight do that for you, so you could receive your device already in English and even with google play store installed.
This way or another, you will have to wait 1 week in order to unlock bootloader. Plenty of time for playing with stock rom.
From what I realized, I could be easily staying with stock rom. But now I am sure that switching to EU rom is the only way to go. I moved to EU rom right after unlocking and never looked back.
As for camera question - I am enjoying EU rom camera, nothing bad so far.
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I am supposed to be getting a sealed box which means that nothing extra will have been installed. If I do get a language prompt on first boot then that will make things easy. I haven't seen anyone mention specific camera problems i.e. exposure, contrast, tonal range etc so I've really no idea what these problems might be.

BarrySamuels said:
I haven't seen anyone mention specific camera problems i.e. exposure, contrast, tonal range etc so I've really no idea what these problems might be.
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Just think about it like this "Who in the world would want to create from the scratch an alternative cam application for a very sophisticated cam if this app can be ported from Chinese rom in a snap of fingers?" There is no alternative cam app for Mi 10 ultra. It is the same app. So it is buggy at the same extent as stock rom cam app. As one of devs elaborated on this issue "there might be numerous factors contributing to bad image quality on a particular device. but that not necessarily means that camera app is buggy"

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Just think about it like this "Who in the world would want to create from the scratch an alternative cam application for a very sophisticated cam if this app can be ported from Chinese rom in a snap of fingers?" There is no alternative cam app for Mi 10 ultra. It is the same app. So it is buggy at the same extent as stock rom cam app. As one of devs elaborated on this issue "there might be numerous factors contributing to bad image quality on a particular device. but that not necessarily means that camera app is buggy"
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I see your point. So there is really no reason to not install the EU ROM. Thank you for your reply.

This has now become purely theoretical as I have just discovered that my local service here in rural Wales depends on Band 20 which this phone doesn't have.
I have cancelled my order which is a great pity as I was looking forward to using this device. Quite a disappointment.

BarrySamuels said:
I have cancelled my order which is a great pity as I was looking forward to using this device. Quite a disappointment.
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Yeah, that is its Achilles heel
Luckily in my area band 20 is of less significance.
Ultra is a true legend, but there are Mi 11 series' devices coming in pipeline.

I understand that Xiaomi said that they wouldn't produce an international version of Mi 10 Ultra but perhaps that is because one of the new Mi 11 range will have similar specifications. Here's hoping.

I'm in South Wales and have the Ultra on the way, it was despatched a few days ago. When you mentioned band 20, I'd that only for 5g? If it is I've no problem missing out on that as 4g is plenty fast enough for me plus I have unlimited data on the 3 network.

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I'm in South Wales and have the Ultra on the way, it was despatched a few days ago. When you mentioned band 20, I'd that only for 5g? If it is I've no problem missing out on that as 4g is plenty fast enough for me plus I have unlimited data on the 3 network.
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No bro. Band 20 is for 4g. But 3g would be pretty fast too.

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No bro. Band 20 is for 4g. But 3g would be pretty fast too.
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Thanks for that, if I'm reading write it'll support 5g over here though and 5g is being rolled out in my area.
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If you are in UK then go onto sim that uses EE network which predominantly uses band 3 & 7 for 4G.
I use Three network and not had any issues with 4G. I live in the North East UK

Nobody asked but I am using EE here in Essex and my Ultra gets 5G... giffgaff gets 4G.
By the way, I have never flashed custom ROMs or rooted any of my devices and to be honest I am still comfortable with the Chinese ROM despite the annoying notifications in Chinese. I haven't had the chance to try everything tho, I received my device a week ago.
What do you guys think? Should I aim to flash the European ROM anyway? I think that the warranty is void if the phone is flashed or rooted.

It's up to you if you want to change to EU or not. Yes gifgaf is based on O2, so no band 20 as you have found out. I'm the same too with Sky and EE.
I did move over to the EU ROM as it gives you full GMS over the hacked version installed by the seller but also for the great additional extras to the ROM and the support from the Xiaomi EU forum.
If you've not done any modifications or flashed ROMs it can be daunting but with this phone and it ability to access fastboot, you can practically never brick it. There is always a way of getting back to a working phone. You will need to unlock your bootloader and wait a further 168 hours to do anything but I have produced a guide that takes you through all this if you want and I'm here if you need help, just message me. I have in the past even helped over Skype and remote pc for some.
As all the most recent ROMs are now twrp compatible, you only need your pc to push twrp from fastboot to replace your stock recovery, then install your first EU ROM by twrp. After that you can just use the inbuilt updater to update. Of course it's your preference. If you don't like it, you can always go back stock Chinese, this will remove twrp and you can lock your bootloader again ( can't do this while on EU ROM) and you will be back to how you were. My only advise as you will get your phone formatted when you unlock after 168 hour wait and you must if you change ROM branches too, so make a good off phone back up so you can restore your data.

Here is a list of the EU ROM extras...
Based on China Stable / Weekly builds
Enabled search gesture (swipe up) on the desktop
3way reboot menu (in dev settings)
Dark Mode (Night Mode) for all devices
Removed ads in MIUI system apps
MIUI Dialer and Messages apps
Face Unlock for all devices
Vertical clock widget on lockscreen
Steps counter in Assistant screen
More shortcuts on left lockscreen
Wake up gestures for all devices
AI preloading option in MIUI Lab for all devices
Fullscreen gestures for all devices
Option to auto-expand first notification
Notifications priority settings
More edit options in Gallery app
Enabled MiDrive in File Explorer
Added landscape mode for SMS app
Sunrise/Sunset in the weather app
Google apps support integrated
Removed 5GHz region restrictions
Confirm dials from call logs
Morning report on alarm at morning
More apps supported for AOD notifications
More styles for AOD screen
Raise to wake gesture
AOD notification received animation
Default volume control stream toggle
Tap fingerprint sensor to wake toggle
More Camera features
Double tap to lock screen
Battery AI scenes
Allowed disabling specific system apps
Importing theme .mtz from zhuti.xiaomi.com via ThemeManager
No useless Chinese bloatware apps
More free RAM due to less background processes
Unified flat style app icons for both system and 3rd party apps
Advanced menu with color icons
No any Chinese character under the full system
Mi Video, Mi Music, Mi Browser: No any useless Chinese content
No possibility to re-lock bootloader accidentally with flash any xiaomi.eu release
Added real 27 languages translation made by Official MIUI Fansites and MIUI Fans
Added EU T9 dialer support
Added charging sound switch
Added Screen-OFF animation
Optimized GPS settings for EU
Optimized Battery consumption
Optimized RAM consumption
Added 3D Touch to MI5S 3GB RAM version
Added GSMalphabet into SMS app options
Added more icons grid layout 4x5, 4x6, 4x7, 5x5, 5x6, 5x7 (depends on device)
SafetyNet passed (Google Pay)
Play Store Certified
Deodexed
Added automated tasks in Security app
Added game speed booster
Added erase module (magic elimination) to Gallery photo edit options
Fixed low volume sound via headphone
Charging screen for all devices
Widevine L1 (for supported devices)
And more, and more made by our 9 years MIUI mods experience.

Hey, thanks for that and the document, really appreciate it!
I am still thinking about having giffgaff as my main SIM despite getting 4G. I have 5G with EE on my Ultra but the problem with EE is its signal indoors. For any reason it is pretty bad, even when I am in Central London, while giffgaff runs smoothly. I don't know how many calls I have missed due to that, and apparently I am not the only one with this issue.
This has been happening with my Redmi Note 4 in the last 3+ years and now happens with my Ultra as well, so defo the problem is the network not the phone. I also use giffgaff for international calls, EE tariffs are 5x or more expensive for int'l calls to the same country... crazy!
Regarding the EU ROM procedure, I will try doing so in the next days following your instructions and I will write down my experience here. I reckon I am a bit scared to do so, it's first time I spend that much money on buying a flagship phone (and on any electronics I think) and don't wanna mess it up. However I will post any issues I encounter.
Cheers!

Good luck if you do make the plunge to go EU. As I said, you can always go back if you want to.
Just make sure you have an off phone back up before you start and you have the new ROM ready to copy over from your PC or usb stick. This way you can use fastboot to push twrp, then reboot straight to recovery (twrp) and flash your ROM. There is a good chance the twrp may be in Chinese, so you will need to change it to English. Once done, format data and reboot. Then wait as it will take ages but as long as you see 5G and miui then it will be fine. If you need any support, message me.