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[Q] How do OTA updates affect root users?

Hello,
How does the upcoming OTA update (4.3) affect people with unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs? I am new to this and this will be my first OTA update since rooting/unlocking.
Will I even get a notification requesting to update, or will it force me to update? And which should I choose? Will I have to re-root the phone after the update? Or can I even get the OTA update since it is rooted?
Sorry, I have a ton of questions, so if someone can just explain what is going to happen and what our choices are that would be great!
Thanks in advance!!!
-Joe

I'll try to answer a few
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It seems like the ota is delayed but who knows..
If you want to stay unlocked and rooted don't take the ota until a respected developer says otherwise.
You may or may not get a notification depending on your ROM or other system tweaks. If you are rooted only, you provably will.
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joejaniczek said:
Hello,
How does the upcoming OTA update (4.3) affect people with unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs? I am new to this and this will be my first OTA update since rooting/unlocking.
Will I even get a notification requesting to update, or will it force me to update? And which should I choose? Will I have to re-root the phone after the update? Or can I even get the OTA update since it is rooted?
Sorry, I have a ton of questions, so if someone can just explain what is going to happen and what our choices are that would be great!
Thanks in advance!!!
-Joe
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The OTA will note affect you at all, you will not even be prompted for it due to running a custom ROM.
If your running a stock rom and have only rooted/unlocked, an OTA will break root and relock your bootloader.
If your running a stock rom/unlocked/and a custom recovery, you'll get prompted for the OTA, but it will not install, it will fail due to the custom recovery (twrp/cwm/etc).
You'll need to Odin to stock to receive an official OTA, but remember there is always a risk of an OTA breaking root permanently....
My advice is to stay custom, and flash a rooted custom stock rom that will surely be appearing here within a day or two of the OTA... But Verizon will probably not release 4.3 to us, and if they do it'll be at least 4 months...

Is it Safe to Take 4.4.3 OTA Update on Stock?

Hi, i'm kinda new to Rooting HTC Devices, but not to rooting android devices in general. I was wondering if it was safe to take the OTA Update to get the Latest Firmware / Radios Etc, and then Install Viper One 2.5.0. I haven't touched the Firmware at all and i heard from Team Venom that you had to update your firmware and so far i haven't found any RUU's that work properly and whenever i try to flash Viper One 2.4.0, i get VERY long boot screens and sometimes it hangs on the HTC Logo, like the post suggested. Is there any way of safely doing this to a Verizon Phone without loosing S-OFF, Root or an Unlocked Bootloader? Considering they said:
Notice: at the time of writing, both T-Mobile US and Verizon’s 4.4.3 Updates were not available yet, but announced.
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which i think its not true since people are already running 4.4.3 and Viper One Running on the latest Firmware, and they also said
While the Verizon and T-Mobile US guys need to wait (with “method #1″), the TmoUS folks could head over to my thread (linked above) and set their phones to S-OFF and flash an international firmware as a shortcut (it should be ok, not sure on the impact, maybe losing some WiFi calling functionality which can be restored by flashing TmoUS Firmware once it becomes available), going by “method #2″. However, Verizon: do NOT flash an international GSM firmware! You would regret it badly! Same goes for Sprint by the way. No INT firmware for you ever!
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Yet on the Verizon Post on Xda, they point you directly to it like i'm supposed to do that, and when i try "Method 2" which is also on their Website's Post that Links you to their Special Firmware Thread here , They Say:
I will cover GSM PHONES ONLY - no cdma / sprint firmware except when i wish to do otherwise.
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which makes no sense considering they basically told me to go there from linking me in their Verizon Thread. I mean i'm totally confused how your supposed to flash the newest Firmware and it doesn't help that NO ONE has a tutorial online for this. I'm sorry if i'm coming off as a noob, but Normally Verizon OTA Updates have a tendency to Break Root and Lock the Bootloader and i don't know if this is any different.
My Device:
Verizon HTC One M8 (M8_WLV)
4.4.2, 1.55.605.2 Stock Sense
Rooted, S-OFF, Bootloader Unlocked

It's really easy to apply the radio and firmware. Just follow the instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2824882
Also you are correct that taking the ota directly will cause you to lose root. Once you have applied the firmware you should be good with the ROM

Does tripping KNOX stop OTA updates?

I am rooted and looking to go back to stock by flashing the stock firmware using Odin on my G920F. However since KNOX is already tampered with and there's no way of resetting it, will I be able to receive OTA updates once I revert back to full stock? If not, is there a way for it to work?

Austin3161337 said:
I am rooted and looking to go back to stock by flashing the stock firmware using Odin on my G920F. However since KNOX is already tampered with and there's no way of resetting it, will I be able to receive OTA updates once I revert back to full stock? If not, is there a way for it to work?
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Hi, going back to full stock is the best way to get OTA updates so yes you should get any OTA update that is available to you,

maxal said:
Hi, going back to full stock is the best way to get OTA updates so yes you should get any OTA update that is available to you,
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Thank you for the reply, but one more thing, does flashing a specific firmware region may equal different updates? So if i flash the UK firmware, will I get the software updates for the UK phone? I know that sounds pretty dumb but I'm knew to Samsung coming from HTC.

Austin3161337 said:
Thank you for the reply, but one more thing, does flashing a specific firmware region may equal different updates? So if i flash the UK firmware, will I get the software updates for the UK phone? I know that sounds pretty dumb but I'm knew to Samsung coming from HTC.
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Hi, I have never flashed a different region firmware before so I can't really comment on this sorry.

Tripping KNOX doesn't prevent OTA updates, as long as you flash back stock.
If your current ROM is rooted, this may prevent updates.

Austin3161337 said:
So if i flash the UK firmware, will I get the software updates for the UK phone?
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Yes you will!

Austin3161337 said:
Thank you for the reply, but one more thing, does flashing a specific firmware region may equal different updates? So if i flash the UK firmware, will I get the software updates for the UK phone? I know that sounds pretty dumb but I'm knew to Samsung coming from HTC.
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Never flash other model firmware, always stay to the W8 version.

Xt1541 ota

I've got a XT1541 8GB with LPI23.72-22 firmware Spain retail version. I've seen the retail firmware in the firmware's post but i haven't got the ota just yet. Has anyone with this device got the OTA? Is there any other way to install it? Downloading from motorla website and flashing maybe? Im on stock unrooted.
Also i would like to know if I stay on stock recovery and root the phone, will unrooting it before updating be enough to capture ota's without any problem? And then root again by temporarily boot into twrp?
Thanks for the help.

I have a different model but root won't stop you from downloading and capturing the OTA. I was able to capture the OTA even though I was rooted and updated while rooted. To be on the safe side, it would probably be best to unroot though. Before I rebooted after the OTA, I went into the cache and saved a copy of the OTA.
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So as long as i keep stock recovery and I unroot before updating i wont have any truble right?
Is motorola sending the OTA or my carrier? Because i got the unlocked phone on amazon and my carrier is not selling phones or giving them with a contract.
Anyway i think im gonna go for cyanogenmod as soon as it gets official support.

felipovicc said:
So as long as i keep stock recovery and I unroot before updating i wont have any truble right?
Is motorola sending the OTA or my carrier? Because i got the unlocked phone on amazon and my carrier is not selling phones or giving them with a contract.
Anyway i think im gonna go for cyanogenmod as soon as it gets official support.
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Right, you shouldn't have any problems. Motorola will be sending out the update, not your carrier. You probably wouldn't have any trouble updating while rooted, but to be on the safe side it wouldn't hurt. You'll have to root again after the update anyway, so you may as well un-root before the update.

OTA Update to Oreo

Hey guys... Does anyone know when I should expect my update to Oreo OTA. I don't plan on becoming a beta tester or flashing it myself.
So if anyone has an idea of when Oreo will be pushed out to the masses, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!

connorhiller said:
Hey guys... Does anyone know when I should expect my update to Oreo OTA. I don't plan on becoming a beta tester or flashing it myself.
So if anyone has an idea of when Oreo will be pushed out to the masses, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
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I'm in the same boat. No one knows yet. There are not even factory images available nor full OTA images on the google site here.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Until such time as they appear don't sweat it. After they do then you can re-ask your question but you'll probably get it before you can hit send. Someone said they got an OTA on Verizon from 7.1.2 to 8.0 but I'm a little leery of that claim since no one else I've seen has received it.
I believe it was destined for the Aug 21 deadline but some major problems have arisen and I believe it was pulled for further testing. Bluetooth is one of them, random rebooting, stuff like was on some dp4 devices. I also saw some volume control issues too. Yes, I know others haven't had issues and someone will post a link to the factory images on the android site but that doesn't help any of us with locked bootloaders. Besides the fact that I like the background install and being able to use the phone while it's updating. Then a simple reboot and you're done. It'll happen soon but no one knows when yet.

I am in UK and I have already received for Oreo OTA on Google Pixel set.
It can be flashfire updated as well for root purpose.

sitnaing said:
I am in UK and I have already received for Oreo OTA on Google Pixel set.
It can be flashfire updated as well for root purpose.
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So you were on stock 7.1.2, locked bootloader, not rooted and you received an OTA to 8.0? I'm not sure what you mean by flashfire updated. An OTA installs in the background.

bobby janow said:
So you were on stock 7.1.2, locked bootloader, not rooted and you received an OTA to 8.0? I'm not sure what you mean by flashfire updated. An OTA installs in the background.
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I am on 7.1.2 unlock bootloader with root.
You should also have received ota update if you are on locked bootloader with no root.
Some of ota roll out dependent on carrier. But if yours is google set, you would be able to receive by now.

sitnaing said:
I am on 7.1.2 unlock bootloader with root.
You should also have received ota update if you are on locked bootloader with no root.
Some of ota roll out dependent on carrier. But if yours is google set, you would be able to receive by now.
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Well that's a bit of good news. One thing is that on G+ no one has posted the inevitable screenshot of the OTA notification (which are at best annoying but they do it anyway), so it must be rolling out very slowly. The other thing is that once an OTA is released the system images are usually available with the OTA images shortly thereafter. I don't see either of those at this point.
I mean I'm gonna wait and I'm sure it'll be here, but the question is when. I'm on VZW so they might be tweaking some things before the let Google release it. Not sure how that works.
Did yours install in the background and then a reboot to 8.0? How long was the bootup process if you watched it?

For carrier, like you said roll out will take some time. For me, time taken is similar to update and reboot as normal security patch monthly update where it should take longer as this is the whole different version. May be backbone still same but with just UI change and some tweaks.