Hello,
How does the upcoming OTA update (4.3) affect people with unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs? I am new to this and this will be my first OTA update since rooting/unlocking.
Will I even get a notification requesting to update, or will it force me to update? And which should I choose? Will I have to re-root the phone after the update? Or can I even get the OTA update since it is rooted?
Sorry, I have a ton of questions, so if someone can just explain what is going to happen and what our choices are that would be great!
Thanks in advance!!!
-Joe
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It seems like the ota is delayed but who knows..
If you want to stay unlocked and rooted don't take the ota until a respected developer says otherwise.
You may or may not get a notification depending on your ROM or other system tweaks. If you are rooted only, you provably will.
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joejaniczek said:
Hello,
How does the upcoming OTA update (4.3) affect people with unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs? I am new to this and this will be my first OTA update since rooting/unlocking.
Will I even get a notification requesting to update, or will it force me to update? And which should I choose? Will I have to re-root the phone after the update? Or can I even get the OTA update since it is rooted?
Sorry, I have a ton of questions, so if someone can just explain what is going to happen and what our choices are that would be great!
Thanks in advance!!!
-Joe
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The OTA will note affect you at all, you will not even be prompted for it due to running a custom ROM.
If your running a stock rom and have only rooted/unlocked, an OTA will break root and relock your bootloader.
If your running a stock rom/unlocked/and a custom recovery, you'll get prompted for the OTA, but it will not install, it will fail due to the custom recovery (twrp/cwm/etc).
You'll need to Odin to stock to receive an official OTA, but remember there is always a risk of an OTA breaking root permanently....
My advice is to stay custom, and flash a rooted custom stock rom that will surely be appearing here within a day or two of the OTA... But Verizon will probably not release 4.3 to us, and if they do it'll be at least 4 months...
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A few months ago I rooted my Plus because of Samsung's apparent inability to deliver Jelly Bean to my device. After realizing I have no idea what to do with ROMs, flashing, etc., I figured I'd wait it out until the official update was released. Sure enough it was last month, but I have yet to get a notification saying an update was available.
Will I ever get a notification, or do I have to unroot ( need help on that, though I think I know now )? Additionally, is the update OTA or through KIES?
ProjectShadow316 said:
A few months ago I rooted my Plus because of Samsung's apparent inability to deliver Jelly Bean to my device. After realizing I have no idea what to do with ROMs, flashing, etc., I figured I'd wait it out until the official update was released. Sure enough it was last month, but I have yet to get a notification saying an update was available.
Will I ever get a notification, or do I have to unroot ( need help on that, though I think I know now )? Additionally, is the update OTA or through KIES?
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Root shouldn't affect update notifications. Though those only notify if an update is rolled out for your own region and/or carrier. Depending if you have the 6200 or 6210 model only certain regions have JB available, however this doesn't stop you from flashing a rom from a different region. I have a canadian 6210 and running the UK/Ireland 4.1.2 with no ill effects to report and it's pretty sweet!
I am on my way out but check the developper threads and there should be a few on flashing the new stock JB roms that are out.
I just received an OTA update on AT&T G2 to version D80020y. Thing is earlier I had a root but some how the update went through with the installation without a hassle. I can't remember where I downloaded the root from. Could you guys suggest a good rooting process which will allow me to install OTA updates in the future also.
Thanks in advance.
varunkumars said:
I just received an OTA update on AT&T G2 to version D80020y. Thing is earlier I had a root but some how the update went through with the installation without a hassle. I can't remember where I downloaded the root from. Could you guys suggest a good rooting process which will allow me to install OTA updates in the future also.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you still have root? Any thing different you noticed after the OTA?
varunkumars said:
I just received an OTA update on AT&T G2 to version D80020y. Thing is earlier I had a root but some how the update went through with the installation without a hassle. I can't remember where I downloaded the root from. Could you guys suggest a good rooting process which will allow me to install OTA updates in the future also.
Thanks in advance.
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Having root and allowing OTA updates is a recipe for disaster. You're better off waiting for someone to post an update here in the forums that works with root or be certain that the update doesn't break root.
jdk2 said:
Having root and allowing OTA updates is a recipe for disaster. You're better off waiting for someone to post an update here in the forums that works with root or be certain that the update doesn't break root.
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This thing doesn't get updated on the forums, that's the problem. I've asked for the 20u stock system folder from someone rooted on that version and no one has responded. The last version we have here is 20k stock rooted. I'm still waiting. Now I'd like to get my hands on an unmodified stock 20y I'll have to wait forever to NOT get.
Greetings,
Just bought a brand new (directly from Google) Nexus 5. It came with 4.4.3 and immediately notified about an "update available", in which it downloaded and installed 4.4.4.
I then went on and Unlocked my bootloader in preparation for a root (I did not root yet, full stock). But I am not getting any update for Lollipop, not even when I manually Check for Updates.
Are these OTA updates come/pushed randomly, or did the Unlocking of the bootloader prevented an automatic OTA update?
I am aware of the option to manually update, I am just curious if the Unlocking prevents updates. If so, if I re-lock the bootloader again will I then get the OTA update?
Thanks.
No, it doesn't change anything. OTA updates are staged so you just probably haven't had it yet...
Unlocking does not affect OTA. But keep in mind you'll likely have to re-root if you get auto updated.
Thank you both!
Am I correct to assume that Rooting also will not prevent OTA updates?
sbi1 said:
Thank you both!
Am I correct to assume that Rooting also will not prevent OTA updates?
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It won't prevent getting the ota but it will prevent it from installing
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Gota. So either:
Stock+Root and no updates
Stock+No-Root
Or Root+Custom
?!
sbi1 said:
Gota. So either:
Stock+Root and no updates
Stock+No-Root
Or Root+Custom
?!
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In order for the ota to install you have to be 100% stock system, kernel, recovery, and radio. If you've modified any of those you'll have to return them to stock before the ota will install. There are ways to do that but it depends on the specifics of any modifications you've done to the device. Frankly, it's easier to just flash the new factory image than it is to take the ota if you've modified your device.
Edit, to the best of my knowledge modifying your device, short of deleting our freezing some system files specifically related to receiving updates, will not prevent you from getting the ota, just installing it.
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OK, so just to make sure I understand: Is Unlocking the Bootloader making my system not 100% stock? Which means, even if the update downloads it will not install?
Also - again, if I understand correctly - based on what you say I can root, I will receive the update OTA but it won't install. Is this correct?
sbi1 said:
OK, so just to make sure I understand: Is Unlocking the Bootloader making my system not 100% stock? Which means, even if the update downloads it will not install?
Also - again, if I understand correctly - based on what you say I can root, I will receive the update OTA but it won't install. Is this correct?
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If you just unlock the bootloader you should have no trouble installing the ota. You'll have to unroot to install the ota. You can use the full unroot option in supersu
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I've got a XT1541 8GB with LPI23.72-22 firmware Spain retail version. I've seen the retail firmware in the firmware's post but i haven't got the ota just yet. Has anyone with this device got the OTA? Is there any other way to install it? Downloading from motorla website and flashing maybe? Im on stock unrooted.
Also i would like to know if I stay on stock recovery and root the phone, will unrooting it before updating be enough to capture ota's without any problem? And then root again by temporarily boot into twrp?
Thanks for the help.
I have a different model but root won't stop you from downloading and capturing the OTA. I was able to capture the OTA even though I was rooted and updated while rooted. To be on the safe side, it would probably be best to unroot though. Before I rebooted after the OTA, I went into the cache and saved a copy of the OTA.
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So as long as i keep stock recovery and I unroot before updating i wont have any truble right?
Is motorola sending the OTA or my carrier? Because i got the unlocked phone on amazon and my carrier is not selling phones or giving them with a contract.
Anyway i think im gonna go for cyanogenmod as soon as it gets official support.
felipovicc said:
So as long as i keep stock recovery and I unroot before updating i wont have any truble right?
Is motorola sending the OTA or my carrier? Because i got the unlocked phone on amazon and my carrier is not selling phones or giving them with a contract.
Anyway i think im gonna go for cyanogenmod as soon as it gets official support.
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Right, you shouldn't have any problems. Motorola will be sending out the update, not your carrier. You probably wouldn't have any trouble updating while rooted, but to be on the safe side it wouldn't hurt. You'll have to root again after the update anyway, so you may as well un-root before the update.
Hey guys... Does anyone know when I should expect my update to Oreo OTA. I don't plan on becoming a beta tester or flashing it myself.
So if anyone has an idea of when Oreo will be pushed out to the masses, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
connorhiller said:
Hey guys... Does anyone know when I should expect my update to Oreo OTA. I don't plan on becoming a beta tester or flashing it myself.
So if anyone has an idea of when Oreo will be pushed out to the masses, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
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I'm in the same boat. No one knows yet. There are not even factory images available nor full OTA images on the google site here.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Until such time as they appear don't sweat it. After they do then you can re-ask your question but you'll probably get it before you can hit send. Someone said they got an OTA on Verizon from 7.1.2 to 8.0 but I'm a little leery of that claim since no one else I've seen has received it.
I believe it was destined for the Aug 21 deadline but some major problems have arisen and I believe it was pulled for further testing. Bluetooth is one of them, random rebooting, stuff like was on some dp4 devices. I also saw some volume control issues too. Yes, I know others haven't had issues and someone will post a link to the factory images on the android site but that doesn't help any of us with locked bootloaders. Besides the fact that I like the background install and being able to use the phone while it's updating. Then a simple reboot and you're done. It'll happen soon but no one knows when yet.
I am in UK and I have already received for Oreo OTA on Google Pixel set.
It can be flashfire updated as well for root purpose.
sitnaing said:
I am in UK and I have already received for Oreo OTA on Google Pixel set.
It can be flashfire updated as well for root purpose.
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So you were on stock 7.1.2, locked bootloader, not rooted and you received an OTA to 8.0? I'm not sure what you mean by flashfire updated. An OTA installs in the background.
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So you were on stock 7.1.2, locked bootloader, not rooted and you received an OTA to 8.0? I'm not sure what you mean by flashfire updated. An OTA installs in the background.
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I am on 7.1.2 unlock bootloader with root.
You should also have received ota update if you are on locked bootloader with no root.
Some of ota roll out dependent on carrier. But if yours is google set, you would be able to receive by now.
sitnaing said:
I am on 7.1.2 unlock bootloader with root.
You should also have received ota update if you are on locked bootloader with no root.
Some of ota roll out dependent on carrier. But if yours is google set, you would be able to receive by now.
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Well that's a bit of good news. One thing is that on G+ no one has posted the inevitable screenshot of the OTA notification (which are at best annoying but they do it anyway), so it must be rolling out very slowly. The other thing is that once an OTA is released the system images are usually available with the OTA images shortly thereafter. I don't see either of those at this point.
I mean I'm gonna wait and I'm sure it'll be here, but the question is when. I'm on VZW so they might be tweaking some things before the let Google release it. Not sure how that works.
Did yours install in the background and then a reboot to 8.0? How long was the bootup process if you watched it?
For carrier, like you said roll out will take some time. For me, time taken is similar to update and reboot as normal security patch monthly update where it should take longer as this is the whole different version. May be backbone still same but with just UI change and some tweaks.