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Considering a pixel

Hi all,
I am thinking about getting a pixel soon as an upgrade/downgrade from the nexus 6p. My battery life on this thing is dreadful, like 2 hours sot at a best case scenario usually resulting in me charging twice a day and that's with light to medium usage or if I don't use it much at all.
Anyway I'm interested to see if the battery life might be better on a pixel but I am a little worried as it's a much smaller battery than I have now. I've had nothing but bad luck really when it comes to android and battery life.
The reason for not waiting for the pixel 2 is pretty much that after recycling this I could get the current pixel for about £250 and that way it won't hurt my bank balance as I'm saving for other stuff.
Anyway would you recommend this phone?
Thanks

Not a downgrade but battery life is great for me anyway. You will miss the front facing speakers tho
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I don't think you're going to see huge gains from the 6P to the Pixel in the battery life department (if both phones are working well). If you are only getting 2 hours SOT on the 6P and charging twice a day then something is wrong - either something is keeping the phone awake or the battery's capacity is shot.
I never had the 6P, but reviews seem to suggest you'd see a similar battery life 6P vs Pixel...

Thanks. I hear alot of 6p owners having battery issues, It was fantastic when it was new! I think it's had it combined with a crap chip means it's just not lasting half a day. I ususally have to put it on charge after 6 hours as its about flat and all I do is check some social media and websites from time to time, the odd phone or text. Anyway I'm looking for something that can handle 3-4 hrs SoT as a average when mostly going around using 4g

Bought mine when carphone warehouse dropped the price to £399 which is a great price for this phone.
Been great, battery is really solid and camera is amazing.
I took my oneplus 5 back and got this.

I cannot recommend the phone enough to be honest. The battery life is amazing. As you've said, you've had bad luck with battery in the past; You may want to keep an eye on what apps you install as that could also be a major contributing factor.

Is OnePlus still making the OnePlus 6

Are they? 6T to me is a mistake, on-screen fingerprint, that's slower, less responsive to get rid of the headphone?

zymphad said:
Are they? 6T to me is a mistake, on-screen fingerprint, that's slower, less responsive to get rid of the headphone?
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6T is not a mistake. The on-screen fingerprint might be slightly slower than hardware sensor but it's not significant enough to make a real world difference. This leads to a significant increase in usable screen real estate. The battery is also much bigger than 6 and the notch is a aesthetic upgrade despite it still being a notch. You also have to realize that this is a T series, not a number series, it's not supposed to be a big difference from the previous model, yet the 6T is a decent upgrade imo.

I think is worse....no jack.

Mord0rr said:
I think is worse....no jack.
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Agreed, no positive changes. It's the exact same hardware, same camera, same screen, same glass. The differences are negative, the screen fingerprint is slower and placed in a awkward place, back of the phone is more convenient and tactile feel of the hardware, can do blind. No headphone jack so you can have an inferior oddly placed fingerprint reader? That's just dumb.
Anyway, are they making the OnePlus 6 still? Been checking every day, nothing in stock.

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Been checking every day, nothing in stock.
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Interesting. That's actually a good news for us, op6 owners, if someone decides to upgrade for something else the price for op6 will stay high up on Swappa. Just saying, I like my op6 8/256GB, it's a great phone but sometimes I'd get the 'butterflies' looking at the new devices 'n stuff they offer. Well, it's a crazy circle of infinity...

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Anyway, are they making the OnePlus 6 still? Been checking every day, nothing in stock.
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I prefer the OP6 myself and yes they are still in supply. Just ordered one for myself but have to wait up to 14 days but worth the wait for £399

The 6t has no headphone jack, slower fingerprint, and no led notification. The lack of LED is the biggest problem for me.
The battery is only 12% different, so I went with the 6

TL;DR:
I went with the OP6 over the junk known as the 6t. Have you seen the display issue the 6t users are having?
Edit: The OP6 is on sale for "cyber" week flash sale.
https://wccftech.com/few-hours-oneplus-6-399/
Long version:
I came from the LG v20 and before that the v10.. In terms of the hardware the v30 and v40 didn't have a removable battery and lower system ram, and No LED... I really missed the LED on my phone and using the zerolemon extended battery on my phone I had to rely on third party software to tell me if the phone stopped pulling power from the USB port. Now no phone has removable batteries.. BUT companies are battery cases for phones, so we will see how the internal battery can go before I have to replace it. The irony is that the 6t is a downgrade from the 6.... Finger prints are easy to pull from glass so no I don't want an in display finger print reader... Besides I came from the v20/V10 I liked the rear placement of the sensor. The missing headphone jack on the 6t... NO I don't want to carry a useless dongle that doesn't even split to allow charging via usb. I settled on the OP6 I couldn't be happier with my choice.. Ideally i want my cell phone around 5.5" with the thickness of a deck of cards with the battery capacity to match. I figure smart phones could have 150,000 MAH battery at that size. The battery saver function on the OP6 is impressive it allows me to access most apps with barely any issues, there's a delay with gmail, but a manual refresh solves that.

LBJM said:
TL;DR:
I went with the OP6 over the junk known as the 6t. Have you seen the display issue the 6t users are having?
Edit: The OP6 is on sale for "cyber" week flash sale.
https://wccftech.com/few-hours-oneplus-6-399/
I figure smart phones could have 150,000 MAH
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Really? 150,000mAh that's 150Ah, my car has 65Ah battery. You would probably need 2-3 days to charge it up with USB powered wireless pad.

mzsquared said:
Really? 150,000mAh that's 150Ah, my car has 65Ah battery. You would probably need 2-3 days to charge it up with USB powered wireless pad.
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I did my mental math wrong... NO surprise there... I meant 15000mAh... My note 3 has a 10000mAh zerolemon battery and that takes 8 hours to fully charge via usb... Wireless chargers (WC) are too slow at charging and with USB C port on phones WC is NOT really needed in my book. Plus the more times you charge a battery the faster it wears out. I want a minimum of seven days of battery life under heavy usage.. The whole point of a cell phone is to be mobile.

Seems no more are being made. I just went from S7 g930F to the 6 8gb version. So far I'm impressed. I could not go with T for same reasons outlined. No 3.5 nor led kills it. Was going to go for pixel 3 but the savings with the 6 were compelling.
Anyway, the 6 is a pretty great phone!
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Babying the battery

For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?

I do this on my devices religiously... And while my wife does not, after 18 months with our previous Pixel 2's... Mine carries a noticeable advantage in battery over hers.
On occasion, I will let it fully charge, but not for very long, and never plugged in overnight.

Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.

fury683 said:
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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You are not wrong.

I have been on both sides of this fence over the many years I have been running Android phones. Phones that I ran for 3+ years and swollen/poorly performing batteries if they weren't babied have both went the way of the dodo bird so to speak. My wife and I ran the OG Pixel and Pixel XL pretty much from the beginning until the 3s were released. They basically lived on a charger when not in use, and neither had any depreciation in performance. My only real strict battery usage rule for the past close to 3 years (including some other devices that belong to me, my wife and my sons) is to NEVER use the device while it is charging. The batteries are better as are the chargers and OS battery implementation, and the odds of me using a device long beyond 2 years is pretty slim. Some things like using the right charger and not messing with charging settings are pretty obvious to me. I will admit that I have my own OCD device things like daily reboots and cleanup, but as far as the battery goes I agree with fury that the device is to be used. If I am losing my time and device performance trying to milk a better SoT that doesn't really mean $hit, I am using the device wrong.

terrapin01 said:
For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.

PuffDaddy_d said:
Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.

terrapin01 said:
I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.

terrapin01 said:
I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I think that's a hard correlation to make. Usage changes over time. Your battery might last 24 hours no problem on day one, but then you add in a new app that uses more data, or you start playing a game more that uses more battery and you feel like it doesn't last as long. A lot of people say "no, I use all the same apps" and that might be true for 95% of the apps, but all it takes is one to change the battery life.
As others said, if you intend to keep the phone for 2-3+ years, the battery life may be a concern, but if you're planning to upgrade once a year or every other year, I don't think you will see any noticeable gains from worrying about the battery.
When my battery is low, I charge it. I have a Pixel Stand on my desk at work and it sits there most of the day. When I get home I use the phone and plop it on a Choetech wireless pad at night so it's 100% in the morning. It's also on power (albeit low/slow) with Android Auto in my car during my commute both ways. I also have days where I'm away from battery for hours and lose about 1% per hour (fairly standard with Always on Display). I've been doing more or less this same routine with all three of my Pixel XL devices (OG, 2 and now 3) with no issues. The only change with the 3 is that it has wireless charging which makes charging much more seamless.
Hope you enjoy your new phone, however you decide to use it! :good:

bobby janow said:
Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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The problem with this is alot of manufacturers will stop producing batteries around the same time they stop producing the phones. With my experience I've had a hard time finding batteries that were oem quality, and even if you do, who knows how long that thing has sat on the shelf?

If you're all curious how your battery is degrading over time, download an app called Battery Health. It's a very simple app that tells you what % of the total battery capacity is still available for use. It only took about 2 months for mine to drop into the 90's.

Pixel 3 Battery Life?

Hello,
How is the battery life on Pixel 3 (non XL)? Does it last a whole day with normal usage? What is the average Screen On Time?
Getting a P3 for 500$ from Google Store but have serious reservations about battery life after reading reviews? Is it worth getting?

I just got mine 2 months ago. I have about 300 apps installed. Most have been opened and therefore running stuff in background. I can Easily go all day without a charge. Some evenings I'm only at 50% before bed. I consider myself a medium user (not streaming a lot of video, etc). It was a much better experience than my early Pixel XL. Hope this helps.
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I don't know if you're going to get the answer you're looking for because "normal usage", screen on time, apps installed, types of apps, network coverage, etc all vary widely from person to person. What works great for me might not at all for you.

If I have a normal use day I have about 5 to 6 hours of SoT. I've gotten 7+, it's about what my S10e got,.
However I am a heavy user, constantly rebooting and testing new modules and on Q beta so I can get anywhere from 2 to 4 but that is because I am HARDCORE draining the phone.

SirSparkles said:
I just got mine 2 months ago. I have about 300 apps installed. Most have been opened and therefore running stuff in background. I can Easily go all day without a charge. Some evenings I'm only at 50% before bed. I consider myself a medium user (not streaming a lot of video, etc). It was a much better experience than my early Pixel XL. Hope this helps.
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Thank you. Any idea on the screen on time that you are getting from the phone?

vonDubenshire said:
If I have a normal use day I have about 5 to 6 hours of SoT. I've gotten 7+, it's about what my S10e got,.
However I am a heavy user, constantly rebooting and testing new modules and on Q beta so I can get anywhere from 2 to 4 but that is because I am HARDCORE draining the phone.
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That is pretty good. Is that on the regular 3 or the XL Version?
Thanks.

vonDubenshire said:
If I have a normal use day I have about 5 to 6 hours of SoT. I've gotten 7+, it's about what my S10e got,.
However I am a heavy user, constantly rebooting and testing new modules and on Q beta so I can get anywhere from 2 to 4 but that is because I am HARDCORE draining the phone.
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Shouldn't screen on time be a parameter to gauge that with ?

fury683 said:
I don't know if you're going to get the answer you're looking for because "normal usage", screen on time, apps installed, types of apps, network coverage, etc all vary widely from person to person. What works great for me might not at all for you.
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Shouldn't screen on time be a parameter to gauge that with ?

masterinmischief said:
Thank you. Any idea on the screen on time that you are getting from the phone?
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I'm averaging about 2-4 hours per day of screen time per Digital Wellbeing.
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SirSparkles said:
I'm averaging about 2-4 hours per day of screen time per Digital Wellbeing.
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That is not too great and does not give me much confidence. I have heard battery life on 3A is stellar. I had the Pixel 1XL and Nexus 6Pand after a few months, Battery life went bad on both those phones. Hence, someone apprehensive, considering all the negative I have heard about Pixel 3 battery right off the bat.

masterinmischief said:
That is not too great and does not give me much confidence. I have heard battery life on 3A is stellar. I had the Pixel 1XL and Nexus 6Pand after a few months, Battery life went bad on both those phones. Hence, someone apprehensive, considering all the negative I have heard about Pixel 3 battery right off the bat.
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If the several months down the line degredation theory is accurate for pixels, then the 3a having stellar battery life may also be smoke and mirrors.
I had a 3a and sold it for a 3. Got $100 bb gift card when I bought it, sold it for $350. So I made $50 in that and bought my pixel 3 for $400. I think it's worth it for the extra $50 to have the better processor, water rating and wireless charging.
My battery life has been...ok with my 3. Absolutely nothing to write home about but certainly not the worst I've ever seen. Drain is a bit higher than I like to see, idle and active (1.5 and 13 respective, according to exkm). My screen in time per cycle is between 5-6 hours generally but that is a misleading number for to different setups and signal strength.
I say if you dig the device, get it. If you hate it, hell that's what swappa is for. I have bought and sold so many devices on there because they didn't meet my standards it because something else caught my eye.
I will be keeping this device for awhile. I really like the size and features. I'm sure I could boost battery by nurfing features but I am not interested in doing that. This has been excessively long so... Let us know what you decide. Hope my diatribe helped a little. If not... It was free, so don't complain
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My Pixel 3 barely makes a day on a charge. Meanwhile, I use my old Moto X4 to stream music to my work headset, and it can do that for a whole day and still be at 60-70% battery by the end. I tried that with my Pixel, and I ended up having to use extreme battery saver mode by the end of the day.

My battery has been much better since I turned off mobile network always active in developer settings. Keeps idle drain will below 1% now. I couldn't figure it for the life of me why it was so high. Try it!
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Question How has the pixel 6a been so far?

Hello everyone
First time posting here. Umm basically my friend has an iPhone 6 and wants to get the pixel 6a. He has 2 questions, repairability and performance long term.
Will the pixel omegle xender 6a become unusable after 2 years? As I have seen certain users complaining about their 1-2 year old pixel become extremely slow. My friend will be using it for 5 years
Thanks.

The key to a long battery life is mostly all about the charging and temp. management. If you root, you can GREATLY extend batt. longevity by setting it to stop charging @ 80%, try not to go below 20% b4 u charge...and cap. ur temp @ 40-45C afaik. Theoretically it should double ur lifespan. I do 90% cuz I usually upgrade every 2-ish years and even that buys u a nace chunk of time. As for the 6a...luv it thus far.
And this...
How to maximize battery life: Charging habits and other tips
If you've ever wondered what the best way to charge your battery is, here are some scientifically proven tips for maximizing battery life.
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5 years is a lot to expect from a daily used cell phone. There are only so many charging cycles a battery has in it. Heat management (as stated above) is the biggest determining factor for battery longevity and heat management on these (P6 series) is extremely difficult. I would probably skip this device if 5 years is the goal.

panirwane said:
Hello everyone
First time posting here. Umm basically my friend has an iPhone 6 and wants to get the pixel 6a. He has 2 questions, repairability and performance long term.
Will the pixel 6a become unusable after 2 years? As I have seen certain users complaining about their 1-2 year old pixel become extremely slow. My friend will be using it for 5 years
Thanks
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No phone in the price range (or in any price range, frankly) is going to be operating at the same speed after 5 years of use. I'd recommend him to buy a 6/6Pro, or the Pixel 7.
Also, Zaxx mentioned rooting and such - but I guess that can't be expected from an iPhone user (/s).