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[Q] Disastrous experience with Gear 2 paired to a non-Samsung phone?

Hi all!
When I bought my Gear 2 Neo to use with my HTC One M8, I knew it was not officially supported, but I read some encouraging posts here on XDA, so I decided to give it a go. So far, my overall experience has been completely dreadful:
Battery Life! When I saw 30% per hour drain on my Gear 2 (with not too much of "display on" time), I thought I've got a defective device. However, things came immediately back to normal when I disconnected the Gear from the phone. Did anyone else have such experience? Solved, issue with the specific custom ROM.
Using in conjunction with Bluetooth earpiece is a complete nonsense. I don't want to receive calls on the Gear when I have the earpiece connected to the phone. But guess what, you can't have them connected at the same time! WTF?
Where are the apps? All pre- and post-release materials suggested Gear 2 comes with plenty of useful apps, but where are they? I'm particularly interested in Runtastic, but, according to their Facebook page, their Gear 2-compatible app hasn't been released yet, and no ETA so far. Runtastic claims Samsung didn't ask if their app was available before putting its name on the press release. WTF?
No alarm functionality on the watch itself without a need in the phone, and non-Samsung phone alarm doesn't get propagated to the Gear.
I'd really appreciate if other Samsung and non-Samsung phone users could share their experiences with regards to the areas above.
Thanks!

mpogr said:
Hi all!
When I bought my Gear 2 Neo to use with my HTC One M8, I knew it was not officially supported, but I read some encouraging posts here on XDA, so I decided to give it a go. So far, my overall experience has been completely dreadful:
Battery Life! When I saw 30% per hour drain on my Gear 2 (with not too much of "display on" time), I thought I've got a defective device. However, things came immediately back to normal when I disconnected the Gear from the phone. Did anyone else have such experience?
Using in conjunction with Bluetooth earpiece is a complete nonsense. I don't want to receive calls on the Gear when I have the earpiece connected to the phone. But guess what, you can't have them connected at the same time! WTF?
Where are the apps? All pre- and post-release materials suggested Gear 2 comes with plenty of useful apps, but where are they? I'm particularly interested in Runtastic, but, according to their Facebook page, their Gear 2-compatible app hasn't been released yet, and no ETA so far. Runtastic claims Samsung didn't ask if their app was available before putting its name on the press release. WTF?
No alarm functionality on the watch itself without a need in the phone, and non-Samsung phone alarm doesn't get propagated to the Gear.
I'd really appreciate if other Samsung and non-Samsung phone users could share their experiences with regards to the areas above.
Thanks!
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Wow that's a lot. Let's see if I can come up with some answers..
1. I hear that battery drain is a known bug when connected to the HTC one. Not sure why it happens but it's been reported for mostly that device.
2. I'm pretty sure in order to use the Bluetooth earpiece with the Gear you need to connect the gear to your phone, go into Settings on your Gear 2, Go into Bluetooth, and connect it there so instead of having both attached to the phone, you have it Phone>Gear>Bluetooth (IE NOT Bluetooth>Phone<Gear|)
3. Samsung Apps store is not available on NON Samsung devices.
4. This is true and many people are looking for a fix. Nothing can be changed right now.

CarbonWyre said:
Wow that's a lot. Let's see if I can come up with some answers..
1. I hear that battery drain is a known bug when connected to the HTC one. Not sure why it happens but it's been reported for mostly that device.
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Strange indeed. Could be related to the Sense flavour of BT stack. I have a spare Google device (Galaxy Nexus), will try the Gear with it to see if the battery drain issue is cured.
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2. I'm pretty sure in order to use the Bluetooth earpiece with the Gear you need to connect the gear to your phone, go into Settings on your Gear 2, Go into Bluetooth, and connect it there so instead of having both attached to the phone, you have it Phone>Gear>Bluetooth (IE NOT Bluetooth>Phone<Gear|)
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According to the process described here, the audio device needs to be paired with the phone and not the Gear, while the Gear is somehow able to make the phone switch between the phone audio coming through it to the earpiece. There is also this video describing how it works from the user perspective.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way with my HTC One M8. It looks like it uses ONLY the "Phone Audio" profile while connected to the Gear, which effectively disables any other device relying on the same profile (e.g. the earpiece) to connect to the phone. If, nevertheless, you force the phone to connect to the earpiece, the Gear gets disconnected. I suspect, on Samsung devices, a different BT protocol (probably BLE) is used for communicating to the Gear, so it can stay connected to the phone while the "Phone Audio" is taken by another device. This could also explain the power drain above, as BLE is supposed to be much more energy efficient. The question is, of course, how to make HTC One to use it (BLE is obviously supported by the device).
It is possible to connect my earpiece to the Gear, but only as media device (my earpiece supports this profile as well). In that case it can be used for listening to music played on the Gear. But it doesn't help in the phone call scenario. In any case, the "transfer to earpiece" operation described in both tutorials (you can see the corresponding icon on the right side of the Gear screen in the video above) is not available, no matter if the earpiece is paired to the phone or paired/connected to the Gear directly (the icon is greyed out).
Again, I'll try to put a custom BLE-enabled ROM on my Galaxy Nexus (standard ROMs don't enable BLE on that device, despite the fact the hardware is present) to see if it behaves any differently.
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3. Samsung Apps store is not available on NON Samsung devices.
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This is true, but there are good people around who can make them available for outsiders like us... The problem is Runtastic app for Gear 2 or Fit (not to be confused with Gear 1) is not available yet, according to Runtastic themselves, and no ETA so far. This is despite Samsung press releases. Had I known this before buying my Gear, I would have given it second thought...
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4. This is true and many people are looking for a fix. Nothing can be changed right now.
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This is particularly annoying. What I really don't understand is why any other app notifications do get to the Gear, but alarms (even from 3rd party apps) don't. I'm completely baffled by that!

I have my gear connected to my HTC m7 and I got three days of battery out of a single charge
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thesparky007 said:
I have my gear connected to my HTC m7 and I got three days of battery out of a single charge
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Is that w/the GEAR2/NEO or,w/the original GALAXY GEAR?

KOLIOXDA said:
Is that w/the GEAR2/NEO or,w/the original GALAXY GEAR?
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gear 2 neo

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gear 2 neo
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THX,that's encouraging to hear. :good:
One thing I've noticed w/my M8 & GEAR FIT:
If I'm not using the FIT (leave @ home etc...., out of range), the battery life takes a little bit of a hit. Otherwise, yesterday for example, battery life was stellar, still @ 50% after 18 hrs of total phone on-time.
Apparently, the FIT MANAGER app cannot be force closed, only disabled, so, I'll just do that when not using the FIT.
As for the GEAR MANAGER (for GEAR/GEAR2/NEO) it can be force closed.
So,I'm remaining optimistic regarding battery life once my GEAR2 arrives, especially since such is a YMMV, not only w/this discussion, but battery life in general.

KOLIOXDA said:
THX,that's encouraging to hear. :good:
One thing I've noticed w/my M8 & GEAR FIT:
If I'm not using the FIT (leave @ home etc...., out of range), the battery life takes a little bit of a hit. Otherwise, yesterday for example, battery life was stellar, still @ 50% after 18 hrs of total phone on-time.
Apparently, the FIT MANAGER app cannot be force closed, only disabled, so, I'll just do that when not using the FIT.
As for the GEAR MANAGER (for GEAR/GEAR2/NEO) it can be force closed.
So,I'm remaining optimistic regarding battery life once my GEAR2 arrives, especially since such is a YMMV, not only w/this discussion, but battery life in general.
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I was quite surprised and satisfied with it as well!
I downloaded the sdk and was able to view the log of the gear and I can see there are a lot of errors for s health and other samsung services so if official support comes through from samsung, id imagine battery life will get better.

OK, reading all the replies, it is apparent nobody else has the same kind of dreadful battery life. So it must be the custom M8 ROM I'm using (Insert Coin). I'm going to reflash a different one (will try Android Revolution HD, as this one is supposed to be as close as possible to stock) and see how it behaves.
I did try flashing a BLE-supporting ROM to my old Galaxy Nexus, but it couldn't connect to the Gear. The Gear Manager was stuck forever while attempting to connect.

OK, with Android Revolution HD 5.0 for HTC One M8 the battery life is MUCH better, I think it'll stretch to 2-3 days the way it's going now. So one annoyance is solved.
However, the others are still pending resolution. The one I'm particularly annoyed by is the issue with Bluetooth earpiece. I just can't use the Gear if I have to answer the phone on it or on the phone, as I've been using Bluetooth earpieces for the last 12 years (since they appeared on the market more or less) and don't see myself changing it just because of this Gear stupidity. I'm investigating possible solutions (e.g. using Tasker or similar apps). Will post results here.

Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...

have anyone try the gear 2 with xpeira z1 or z2
iread in some website that the z ultra is work
but ineed the z1 or z2
can someone try it

bluetooth switching
mpogr said:
Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...
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hi may i know which tasker application did u use to resolve this?
thanks
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dericion said:
hi may i know which tasker application did u use to resolve this?
thanks
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btw i m using xperia z ultra

mpogr said:
Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...
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Could you please do a step-by-step guide on this mate? Just like me, there are many of us non Sammy users who are facing the same dilemma. Cheers.
HTC M8 & Gear2

HTC ONE M8 and Gear2 neo
flyguye said:
Could you please do a step-by-step guide on this mate? Just like me, there are many of us non Sammy users who are facing the same dilemma. Cheers.
HTC M8 & Gear2
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So does anyone have a doc'd process and prerequisites on how to make these two devices even work. I have seen countless youtube videos with people walking through what the thing does and even paired to a htc one m8. I have done all the side loading of the APK's etc. Staging stuff where they suggested and so on. Still coming up with it not working. There is some magic that I am missing some where.
so far I have done:
Installed the Stubpak.apk one by one. Then installed Gear Manager, The phone see's that gear2 then pops up a Parsing Error and goes into the gear manager app pairing screen for ever. Nothing happens after that.
If anyone can shed some light that would be great.
Thanks in Advance.

how do you do it?
mpogr said:
Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...
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Hi I'm new to tasker just wondered what the steps were to make it do this phase thanks so much

I tested on HTC One X running CM 11. Battery drain is like 40-50% in 6 hours.

fibs said:
I tested on HTC One X running CM 11. Battery drain is like 40-50% in 6 hours.
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Have a look at this thread.

matthot69 said:
Hi I'm new to tasker just wondered what the steps were to make it do this phase thanks so much
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Have a look at this thread.

mpogr said:
Have a look at this thread.
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Hmm I thought your "solution" was a different custom ROM? Even if I sync an account with few (10) contacts it's the same issue for me...
dlog_system only shows Power Manager messages all day e.g.
06-04 13:05:36.359 303 303 I POWER_MANAGER: core.c: default_trans(1381) > S_LCDOFF -> S_SLEEP : check fail

what you prefer on your gear 2 neo tizen or android wear ?

so now I have the android wear port just wondering what you guys are using

Tizen, so the camera works.

I'd probably prefer wear if the battery life were as great as Tizen is.

Gear 2 Wear still usage even if you have not your Samsung phone for life.

I've found wear a bit better, but tizen's battery life is so much superior that I went back to it
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I've been going back and forth many times. Audio on Tizen is a big deal. However, I don't find myself using it that much. On the other hand, "OK Google" from Wear seems to be useful for me.

I have my Gear 2 now for more than 1 year and since the first day I had it, I flashed the AW port on it.
I was pretty content with AW, but since Biktor has stopped development I got curious about Tizen.
So 2 weeks ago I flashed Tizen (TizenMod 3.0) onto my Gear 2 and I have to say that I'm very impressed !
Battery life is amazing ! (Took it from the charger last Friday at 2:00 PM and now (Tueday 9 AM) I am still on 43% !!). I am sure I can last another 2 days on this charge.
The camera is working again, which I don't use often but it very handy in some cases.
I can finally call now with my watch, connected on BT with my phone.
The only thing I am missing out on, is the "OK, Google" wake up or responding to WhatsApp messages using voice command.
S-Voice isn't that good, nor does it support my language (Dutch).
All in all, I'm very satisfied with Tizen at this moment.
It can do everything I want it to do.

ive been on the android wear port for so long that i guess ive forgotten about what tizen does and doesnt do. the thing i remember most is that ability to take calls on the watch itself. Tizen doesnt do "ok google" like wear does? and i dont remember the battery life being that much different really. I think i installed wear about 7 or 8 mos ago and have been SUPER happy with it. Id like the calls feature, but its no deal breaker (obviously)

Time to change device!!

After nearly 2 years I have had enough and will change.
The whole time I had the watch with Huawei P9 > Nokia 8 > Honor View 10 > P30 Pro there have been issues with the bluetooth constantly disconnecting and removing from trusted device unlock.
To happen with all these phones is clearly something wrong with how it connects to Android / bluetooth stack.
I love the watch so put up with constantly going into Wear app and "reconnecting" but now the battery is draining at an insane amount.
At the start I could manage 2 days without charge, now I am charging it before sleep and waking up with 23% left.

you know i guess there might be something wrong with your device because my hw2 always stays connected to my phone and in the past year I have only noticed one or two times of disconnection, and i wear it at least 8 hrs a day.

It most be your watch
I agree with Kianush, must a problem with your watch. I have a Huawei Watch 2 Classic and I've never had those issues. I do charge before going to sleep, but even doing sleep monitoring in the morning I have usually 75% and it lasts thru the day.

As I say battery was very good until recently so maybe it is on it's way out.
The bluetooth has always had disconnection issues for me at random points in the day.
Also seems it can't handle other BT devices connecting to the phone - i.e. earphones or car head unit will make it disconnect and then it will not reconnect and I need to go into Wear app on phone and reconnect which of course means Smart Lock needs to be added again.

shaunydub said:
As I say battery was very good until recently so maybe it is on it's way out.
The Bluetooth has always had disconnection issues for me at random points in the day.
Also seems it can't handle other BT devices connecting to the phone - i.e. earphones or car head unit will make it disconnect and then it will not reconnect and I need to go into Wear app on phone and reconnect which of course means Smart Lock needs to be added again.
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I had always the problem of it disconnecting randomly as well (and I changed a bunch of phones in the meanwhile as well). But, after all, it is still good looking
I bought a fossil gen 5 the other week and I sent it back... It was slightly faster (I recently installed on the HW2 the janjan ROM+KERNEL) but, I couldn't stand how it was looking with a part of the screen that actually was bazel (at least the HW2 fake a big crown ) So, waiting for next-gen or I'll buy a Ticwatch pro LTE that has 1gb of ram as well (processor wise, won't change anything in term of speed) but it has a bigger full screen

mr-mauro said:
I had always the problem of it disconnecting randomly as well (and I changed a bunch of phones in the meanwhile as well). But, after all, it is still good looking
I bought a fossil gen 5 the other week and I sent it back... It was slightly faster (I recently installed on the HW2 the janjan ROM+KERNEL) but, I couldn't stand how it was looking with a part of the screen that actually was bazel (at least the HW2 fake a big crown ) So, waiting for next-gen or I'll buy a tickwatch pro LTE that has 1gb of ram as well but a bigger full screen
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Yes, I like the watch very much but the disconnection issue is just annoying, somedays it never disconnects and other days its every 10 minutes even under the same circumstances.
I decided to try Galaxy Active 2 for now, doesn't look like Huawei will make a HW3 with Wear anytime soon.

shaunydub said:
Yes, I like the watch very much but the disconnection issue is just annoying, somedays it never disconnects and other days its every 10 minutes even under the same circumstances.
I decided to try Galaxy Active 2 for now, doesn't look like Huawei will make a HW3 with Wear anytime soon.
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Galaxy Active 2 is nice and it has faster processor than the snapdragon400-2100-3100 My only concern is the fact that it doesn't run WearOS Let us know how will it work out with Tizen

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Galaxy Active 2 is nice and it has faster processor than the snapdragon400-2100-3100 My only concern is the fact that it doesn't run WearOS Let us know how will it work out with Tizen
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Yes, I am also slightly nervous about Tizen but watched a Youtube video of Tizen vs Wear vs Android on several devices and it seems to be very similar in use + I found an app that synchronises data to Google Fit.
However I do use several Android apps on my HW2 such as Keep Notes and Fotmob, plus I like the media controls so I will need to fully test this with my P30 Pro before deciding to keep the Active 2.

So I have had the Galaxy Watch Active 2 for a week now and all I can saw is WOW.
This feels like huge upgrade from Huawei Watch 2 in nearly all areas.
The watch itself feels premium, feels more like a real watch on the arm.
The colours are bright and vivid, the speed the watch operates at puts Wear OS to shame, the speaker is great and so many more options with sound and notifications and pretty much everything.
My initial concern was about the lack of Wear OS store and while I do not have Outlook or Fotmob apps everything works., the main app I miss is Google Keep Notes.
I can control my music on my P30 Pro, I can respond to messages in Whatsapp or SMS with voice or type.
Ok it has Bixby instead of Google Assistant but I never used it and I can achieve some similar results such as "set alarm" etc.
It is the first time I tried a non Wear OS watch and I am pretty surprised by it and can't see how Wear can catch up, it is just too slow and dull in comparison.
Plus it has wireless charging and you can backup the watch ready for if you need to wipe or transfer to new phone.
I loved my HW2 for a long time but now GA2 is the new king (although nothing still has the UV sensor I had on my MS Band 2)

Does anyone have any other idea's about what to upgrade to? I'm not a fan of Tizan, but do we wait for the never appearing Pixel watch? Has anyone else updated since this thread started? If so, what to and how is it?

Apart from Fossil there were no real options hence my semi forced move to Samsung.
I like it and it performs much better but I miss some apps like Keep Notes.
And Bixby is useless.
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anybody using mi10pro + samsung galaxy active 2 and make it work great

as per title im having problems from my samsung active 2 when i click the find my phone even it says its connected its not pinging the phone. also alarm issue if you have alarm on the phone it doesnt vibrate to the watch where in when i had my oneplus 8 pro or s20 ultra before everything works. i think is it because of the aggressive battery save from miui again?

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as per title im having problems from my samsung active 2 when i click the find my phone even it says its connected its not pinging the phone. also alarm issue if you have alarm on the phone it doesnt vibrate to the watch where in when i had my oneplus 8 pro or s20 ultra before everything works. i think is it because of the aggressive battery save from miui again?
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Hello there, I'm using a2 with mi 10...no such problem but when I clean recent apps, watch disconnect, but after few seconds it's connected again.. I was previously with fossil gen 5 and it was terrible experience, after few hours connection broke and it was impossible to connect again, but I can receive notifications, nothing else, here is different situation, everything it's almost ok. This is because aggressive ram management in miui...
Find everything with Bluetooth in battery optimization and mark don't optimise.. Its work for now.

Question Dissapointed in watch 4

I use smartwatch since the orignal LG Watch (yeah, that square one) and I got hooked with that new gadget.
Since than I owned all of those devices:
LG Watch, LG Watch R, Moto 360 1 and 2, Fossil Gen 5, Gear S3/Classic, Galaxy Watch, Galaxy Watch 3, Galaxy Watch 4, Apple Watch 3,4,5.
I mostly went with android (owned all note phones) and then I got the iPhone 11 and then 12. I used then the apple watch and it was just a blast compared to all the others.
But then I went with the Fold 2 and I couldnt go back to any other phone. I knew then that nothing will come close to the apple watch (at least softwarewise) and I went with the galaxy watch 3.
I was pretty happy with it exept for some things like sometimes it would lag and software wasnt that great. But then I had big hopes for the galaxy watch 4.
I really like the design but the battery life is just laughable, even compared to my watch 3 which would last 2 days with AOD, continious HR etc.
The Watch 4 is laggy ( or not faster than the watch 3) and the battery life is just crazy bad for me.
I can BARELY get through the day (46mm classic) and if I do ANYTHING with it you can see the battery go down by the minute.
I really wanted to love this watch. I dont know if my watch is broken or something because I seem like the online one with these problems. The new wear os sounded promising but in my experience its just the "good" old wear os with a samsung skin. Still bad battery and still lots of hiccups in performance.
And no I have never been a fanboy for any brands I just like to use the products I like the most but the apple watch sadly is not available on android and it seems like the best option is the galaxy watch 3 or 4.

I think that you have a problem... I have a battery corruption of about 3/4% hour... I can do all the day and I still have battery... I use it even to sleep...
About speed... I don't have that issue... Is fast and furious
Absolutely more faster than my galaxy 3.

Yeah somethijng not right, this 46mm classis 4 lte I have is certainly snappier than my 3 lte, and battery life is about the same as the 3 lte.
Always on display, using Pujie black watch Face, lte enabled on auto, WiFi on auto,and use it to sleep track, have about 20% after wake up and pop it on charge while I have breakfast and shower and pop it back on.

Motawa88 said:
I use smartwatch since the orignal LG Watch (yeah, that square one) and I got hooked with that new gadget.
Since than I owned all of those devices:
LG Watch, LG Watch R, Moto 360 1 and 2, Fossil Gen 5, Gear S3/Classic, Galaxy Watch, Galaxy Watch 3, Galaxy Watch 4, Apple Watch 3,4,5.
I mostly went with android (owned all note phones) and then I got the iPhone 11 and then 12. I used then the apple watch and it was just a blast compared to all the others.
But then I went with the Fold 2 and I couldnt go back to any other phone. I knew then that nothing will come close to the apple watch (at least softwarewise) and I went with the galaxy watch 3.
I was pretty happy with it exept for some things like sometimes it would lag and software wasnt that great. But then I had big hopes for the galaxy watch 4.
I really like the design but the battery life is just laughable, even compared to my watch 3 which would last 2 days with AOD, continious HR etc.
The Watch 4 is laggy ( or not faster than the watch 3) and the battery life is just crazy bad for me.
I can BARELY get through the day (46mm classic) and if I do ANYTHING with it you can see the battery go down by the minute.
I really wanted to love this watch. I dont know if my watch is broken or something because I seem like the online one with these problems. The new wear os sounded promising but in my experience its just the "good" old wear os with a samsung skin. Still bad battery and still lots of hiccups in performance.
And no I have never been a fanboy for any brands I just like to use the products I like the most but the apple watch sadly is not available on android and it seems like the best option is the galaxy watch 3 or 4.
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I agree with you, the battery life is much less than my old watch active2 (i used to charge it every other day but with the watch4 i have to do it every day)
the performances are worse too... when my alarm rings in the morning i have to wait for the screen to wake up in order to stop it ant it takes some seconds .
but i'm finally able to use google pay instead of samsung pay and i hope that the software will improve over time

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Always on display, using Pujie black watch Face
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Wow thanks for this hint. Forgot completely about Pujie black. Bought it 5 years ago and had Galaxy watches for the past 4 years or so. Just installed it. But there is no data from Samsung health yet. Any info about that?
Thanks Martin

Martin7404 said:
Wow thanks for this hint. Forgot completely about Pujie black. Bought it 5 years ago and had Galaxy watches for the past 4 years or so. Just installed it. But there is no data from Samsung health yet. Any info about that?
Thanks Martin
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You can have both Samsung health and Google fit running at the same time, what I do!

My new GW4 battery goes down with about 5%-6%/hour, so roughly 15-20hrs (this with sleep tracking on, snore detection, all notifications on, some exercise (e.g. one hour swimming) and some new apps installation though not too many - maybe 5-10 new apps installed and NO/WITHOUT all time on display.
So not too happy with battery compared to my GW3 which I may reconsider keeping.
Also I was expecting more from Wear OS, notifications on Tizen were straight out of the box, here I had to install an additional Bluetooth notifying app so that all messages (esp. for Whatsapp, Messenger etc to ensure messages and photos come through)...
So first impressions not so good (also spo2 tracking whilst sleeping not working for me even though switched on)
Will keep evaluating but was expecting more, no WOW effect at this time...

I got the watch today. First thing I did was put it on my Watch 3 charger. It says charging, then after about 20 seconds says charging paused.... I have a NEW (less than 2 months old) Z fold 2 and when trying the wireless power share, it does the same thing. This is a huge deal breaker for me.

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Yeah somethijng not right, this 46mm classis 4 lte I have is certainly snappier than my 3 lte, and battery life is about the same as the 3 lte.
Always on display, using Pujie black watch Face, lte enabled on auto, WiFi on auto,and use it to sleep track, have about 20% after wake up and pop it on charge while I have breakfast and shower and pop it back on.
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How do you use Pujie Black with the Galaxy Watch 4? I installd the app both in my phone and the watch but the phone app still says "install on watch"

daavm said:
How do you use Pujie Black with the Galaxy Watch 4? I installd the app both in my phone and the watch but the phone app still says "install on watch"
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I have no problem with PB, after installing everything i went Galaxy Wear and applied the watch face

stakoz said:
My new GW4 battery goes down with about 5%-6%/hour, so roughly 15-20hrs (this with sleep tracking on, snore detection, all notifications on, some exercise (e.g. one hour swimming) and some new apps installation though not too many - maybe 5-10 new apps installed and NO/WITHOUT all time on display.
So not too happy with battery compared to my GW3 which I may reconsider keeping.
Also I was expecting more from Wear OS, notifications on Tizen were straight out of the box, here I had to install an additional Bluetooth notifying app so that all messages (esp. for Whatsapp, Messenger etc to ensure messages and photos come through)...
So first impressions not so good (also spo2 tracking whilst sleeping not working for me even though switched on)
Will keep evaluating but was expecting more, no WOW effect at this time...
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What app did you find that allows notifications from those apps you mentioned?

gettinwicked said:
What app did you find that allows notifications from those apps you mentioned?
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Informer: messages for Wear OS - Apps on Google Play
WhatsApp voice messages, call notifications, message history, vibration patterns
play.google.com

bishop0114 said:
I got the watch today. First thing I did was put it on my Watch 3 charger. It says charging, then after about 20 seconds says charging paused.... I have a NEW (less than 2 months old) Z fold 2 and when trying the wireless power share, it does the same thing. This is a huge deal breaker for me.
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Something is wrong with your watch. Don't have any issues with my. In fact, the Watch 3 charger is exactly the same charger as the one that comes with Watch 4.

Mine (44mm) only uses ~20% overnight (8 hours) and that is with all the sensors going to continuously measure HR and SPO2. I have the Samsung Trio charger and just toss it on there prior to showering and getting dressed. Seems to work pretty well (shrug).

So with my 40mm LTE i got around 35hrs without Aod, Lte, Wifi, Gps and 10min hr - sleepmode/offline mode at night.
Now I replaced it with a 44mm LTE and I get around 40hrs with aod, gps, continuous hr, stress, etc. but LTE and Wifi off. Only on my 2nd charge though.

stakoz said:
Informer: messages for Wear OS - Apps on Google Play
WhatsApp voice messages, call notifications, message history, vibration patterns
play.google.com
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Btw, you don't need this, those notifications you want ARE all there. Just click more under the apps that show up in the phone app, then the drop-down above that says most recent, then click on it and select all. All there!

Yes however not All notifications pass through normally, there is no notification history, e.g. if you decide to reply to a message later, and there are no photos visible sent via WhatsApp, messenger, etc.

stakoz said:
Yes however not All notifications pass through normally, there is no notification history, e.g. if you decide to reply to a message later, and there are no photos visible sent via WhatsApp, messenger, etc.
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Does all the whatsap function like voice message and voice call works perfectly without any issue? Is it worth purchasing?

Anyone have any issues using the speaker on the watch? It's a hit or miss for me when it works or not either using Spotify or music I transferred via Galaxy wearable app

I've given my GW4 a good shot, but I've now gone back to my Watch 2.
The watchfaces available for the 4 are not good. Few have click-through to apps. Resetting is a chore because backup doesn't restore watchfaces or apps. But majorly the battery life is a real disappointment. I was getting 24 hours if I was lucky and not using it much for workout tracking etc.
Google Maps, Google Keep and Gpay were useful to have on my wrist but didn't outweigh the downers. I'll keep hold of the 4 and hope that software updates improve it.
Pity. I was really looking forward to Galaxy Watch 4.