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My note 10.1 was on sleep mode for 2 days and the battery was almost at 10 percent from 100...i looked under the battery options and the display was using 80 percent of the battery.. How if it was not on? I have power saving mode on..
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tony1208 said:
My note 10.1 was on sleep mode for 2 days and the battery was almost at 10 percent from 100...i looked under the battery options and the display was using 80 percent of the battery.. How if it was not on? I have power saving mode on..
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What rom are you running
shaun298 said:
What rom are you running
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no rom not even rooted
tony1208 said:
no rom not even rooted
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mine will sleep for weeks without draining the battery much
I noticed that the percentages that appear in settings> battery are not accurate .... I suggest that they show the battery consumption percentage of the last use before the display turns off
Or the overall battery usage since it was turned on. The screen being the power hungriest of all things will always be on top of the pile...
I figured out it was my wifi draning my battery while the tab was asleep...turn off wifi now when im not using the tab and I get awesom battery life.
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I'm using Green Power for a while now but lately I have been thinking that it might not be needed anymore.
What are your thoughts and what are you using to save battery.
Personally, I think they're a placebo effect, but I never gone in depth to do any real comparisons so I could be wrong. And the M8 has a good enough battery to where I don't consider needing a battery saver.
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mentallo said:
I'm using Green Power for a while now but lately I have been thinking that it might not be needed anymore.
What are your thoughts and what are you using to save battery.
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I ran Qualcomm's Battery Guru app customized for our CPU on my Rezound and now my M8, but ultimately decided that I would just run in standard powersave mode. My kernel lets me undervolt and overclock, so I get decent battery life coupled with fairly good performance without ruining any other battery software.
I use the built in batterysave in CleanROM combined with ART. Great combination.
I use the built-in Power Saver, along with Greenify.
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greenify and wakelock detector here. tried all the battery savers on stock rom for heck of it and thought they drained my battery a little bit. Only one i know actually worked was deep sleep battery saver but i dont use xposed anymore so had to give that up
MotoTurbo said:
greenify and wakelock detector here. tried all the battery savers on stock rom for heck of it and thought they drained my battery a little bit. Only one i know actually worked was deep sleep battery saver but i dont use xposed anymore so had to give that up
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Same here. Greenify and wld are great. Very little resource use.
HTC One M8/CM11/Excalibur 0.5
What ever for? [Imgur link, SFW; shows my battery stats this morning]
If I can get 20 hours to 30%, I can probably get 30 hours on a full charge. But I put my phone on the charger when I go to sleep. If I didn't, I'd be shooting for a 40 hour drain. That's kind of high expectations for a stock battery. Why not just charge it every time you go to bed?
I'm running the latest CleanROM in Dalvik mode, whatever kernel comes with it and zero battery saving apps. I do have the option ticked as you can see at the link where it cuts off your data when the screen is off (like Deep Sleep Battery Saver, and others). But the battery saver itself is off.
Anyone else not getting much "extreme power saving" when EPS is turned on? Honestly, my phone seems to drain at the same rate whether it is on or off.
At least triples my standby battery life over standard power saver mode.
Kane5581 said:
At least triples my standby battery life over standard power saver mode.
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Hmm. My phone is draining 10% overnight with or without it turned on. :/
just lou said:
Hmm. My phone is draining 10% overnight with or without it turned on. :/
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10% overnight sounds like a lot. I would have to think you have an application that is causing the issue.
I get better with the normal than I do the eps. I can get through a day with normal to heavy use. And eps seems to drain just as fast
just lou said:
Hmm. My phone is draining 10% overnight with or without it turned on. :/
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What battery level to you have it configured to become active? It doesn't run all the time - only when your battery reaches the configured level. It will not improve your day to day batter life - it helps your phone to last longer when the battery gets very low (configurable to either 20%, 10% or 5%) by turning off everything but essential features like calling, etc.
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What battery level to you have it configured to become active? It doesn't run all the time - only when your battery reaches the configured level. It will not improve your day to day batter life - it helps your phone to last longer when the battery gets very low (configurable to either 20%, 10% or 5%) by turning off everything but essential features like calling, etc.
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You can also manually turn it on...just fyi.
I'm going to try it out tonight with a full battery and see what I end up with by the morning.
I manually turn it on at night when I go to bed.
On my m8 in power saving mode I tap on the leaf to show the battery usage while in power saving mode and among other things it shows the Kindle app as using battery even though I never use it. My understanding is that it should only be running phone, texts, and the clock I wonder if this is a bug.
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Yeah you've definitely have something keeping your phone awake at night. I'll drop 1% over 8 hours at night. With no EPS and leaving 4g on
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Hmm. My phone is draining 10% overnight with or without it turned on. :/
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10% over night with or with out?
You should drain about 2 to 5% over night with no attempt at battery conservation.
Also, the term "overnight" is very relative. I sleep 4 to 6 hours a night. Others 8 to 10...
Its best to describe battery drain in percent per hour %/hr
scrosler said:
10% over night with or with out?
You should drain about 2 to 5% over night with no attempt at battery conservation.
Also, the term "overnight" is very relative. I sleep 4 to 6 hours a night. Others 8 to 10...
Its best to describe battery drain in percent per hour %/hr
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About 10% every 7-8 hours.
Rogue apps in EPS mode?
mongoose96 said:
On my m8 in power saving mode I tap on the leaf to show the battery usage while in power saving mode and among other things it shows the Kindle app as using battery even though I never use it. My understanding is that it should only be running phone, texts, and the clock I wonder if this is a bug.
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I also have strange apps running in Extreme Power Saving mode:
Amazon Kindle
Facebook
Skype
[Amazon] Appstore
What the **** Verizon?
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Add Amazon Music to that list. Just popped up now.
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I was wrong, it works great! You just need to set it and forget it (like while your sleeping)
Mine says Facebook, Beautiful Widgets, and Google Search have each used 1-2% during EPS mode.
I have found that Google plus, tasker, Kindle, snapdragon battery saver use battery. worst of all extreme power saving mode uses 5-15 percent of the battery usage
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How are you able to see what apps are running while in EPS mode?On my wife's M7 I can't even get into the settings menu. Let alone open a custom app.
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How are you able to see what apps are running while in EPS mode?On my wife's M7 I can't even get into the settings menu. Let alone open a custom app.
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Tap the leaf next to the clock.
Turn mine on at 10 at nigh and its 100%. Wake up at 5 and its still sitting at 100%. Been great for me
just lou said:
Tap the leaf next to the clock.
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This does nothing for me. But mine is working fine I lose about 0.33%/hr.
I've changed my mind
I turned on extreme power saving mode at midnight with 86% and turned it off at 8 am to find it still at 86%. Only tasks using battery in the morning before I exited EPS were essential apps (dialer, messages, and two others which I forgot).
Needless to say, I'm very happy with its performance. If you just turn it on and leave it alone, it seems to work as it is supposed to.
Purpose of this thread is to discuss how adaptive battery works, how long it takes in terms of data collection by the algorithm to get the best results and most of all, I'd like to discuss our findings with it off and on in terms of idle drain and overall battery longevity.
How can we get a definitive answer on how this is supposed to work?
Also posted 4 poll options to see what is working best for some of us.
There has been several on-going discussions on other relative threads such as https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/pixel-3xl-ram-management-problem-t3855914 & https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/battery-drain-t3856149 but figured we consolidate.
Ill go first.
Idle drain is drastically greater with adaptive battery on.
SOT on average is 45 minutes less with adaptive battery on.
I was able to get "more" out of my battery with adaptive battery off.
masri1987 said:
Purpose of this thread is to discuss how adaptive battery works, how long it takes in terms of data collection by the algorithm to get the best results and most of all, I'd like to discuss our findings with it off and on in terms of idle drain and overall battery longevity.
How can we get a definitive answer on how this is supposed to work?
Also posted 4 poll options to see what is working best for some of us.
There has been several on-going discussions on other relative threads such as https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/pixel-3xl-ram-management-problem-t3855914 & https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/battery-drain-t3856149 but figured we consolidate.
Ill go first.
Idle drain is drastically greater with adaptive battery on.
SOT on average is 45 minutes less with adaptive battery on.
I was able to get "more" out of my battery with adaptive battery off.
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How long have you had the phone? Supposedly, the benefits of adaptive battery kick in after the phone recognizes your usage patterns.
PuffDaddy_d said:
How long have you had the phone? Supposedly, the benefits of adaptive battery kick in after the phone recognizes your usage patterns.
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i got the phone last Wednesday, I want you to be right, but it just doesn't seem like the algorithmic AI learning is adapting fast enough...
Also my OCD isn't allowing me to tolerate it like that day after day until it decides to get it's act right.
Found this
https://stackoverflow.com/questions...tery-and-what-does-it-mean-for-app-developers
I still don't see why having adaptive battery on would get worse battery than having it off. It should get me the same battery life as having it off, only until the AI learns my usage better which by then it should extend the longevity of my battery
Left adaptive battery on.
Overnight loss is 11%
Look at the awake screen off time.
5 min phone call. Little WhatsApp and Facebook use.
With adaptive battery off I had 1.5 hour phone call 1 hour WhatsApp video call. Nearly 6 hrs sot, 3% overnight loss
masri1987 said:
Left adaptive battery on.
Overnight loss is 11%
Look at the awake screen off time.
5 min phone call. Little WhatsApp and Facebook use.
With adaptive battery off I had 1.5 hour phone call 1 hour WhatsApp video call. Nearly 6 hrs sot, 3% overnight loss
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Interesting... My battery life with adaptive battery is about the same as it was on my pixel 2, so I never thought turning it off might provide better results.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/phone-by-google/OZ2s3BuHVuQ/u_Li39QQBAAJ
My google product forum thread on this
Could the feature just be broken?
PuffDaddy_d said:
Interesting... My battery life with adaptive battery is about the same as it was on my pixel 2, so I never thought turning it off might provide better results.
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try it for me plz, i might be trippin'
Mine seems to be doing good.
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Mine seems to be doing good.
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that's decent... with adaptive battery on?
It's crazy how this is working well for others and not for some ?
Where is the restricting apps option?
masri1987 said:
that's decent... with adaptive battery on?
It's crazy how this is working well for others and not for some ?
Where is the restricting apps option?
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No changes at all other then restricting battery to apps I always do in the app details screen and clicking battery and respite ting background battery
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No changes at all other then restricting battery to apps I always do in the app details screen and clicking battery and respite ting background battery
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that defeats the purpose of adaptive battery doesn't it?
What diff would it make if you had adaptive off + restricting battery to apps manually?
Also, how do you restrict battery to apps? Everytime i search "restrict" in settings i brings up adaptive
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that defeats the purpose of adaptive battery doesn't it?
What diff would it make if you had adaptive off + restricting battery to apps manually?
Also, how do you restrict battery to apps? Everytime i search "restrict" in settings i brings up adaptive
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Not sure but that's what I do for the best battery life. I don't turn off adaptive and just restrict apps I know have caused issues in the past for me. See the attached screen for where the battery restrict for each app is found.
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Not sure but that's what I do for the best battery life. I don't turn off adaptive and just restrict apps I know have caused issues in the past for me. See the attached screen for where the battery restrict for each app is found.
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thanks, what other apps do you have set on restricted? Curious since I never had to do this before with aggressive doze in oreo
masri1987 said:
thanks, what other apps do you have set on restricted? Curious since I never had to do this before with aggressive doze in oreo
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dope thanks,
So how do we get to that screen you just shared? because right now the only thing i see is doing them one by one
Settings. Battery. Adaptive battery. Restricted apps.
Edit. You have to restrict the apps you want one by one. I don't think you can do it in multiples.
c_86 said:
Settings. Battery. Adaptive battery. Restricted apps.
Edit. You have to restrict the apps you want one by one. I don't think you can do it in multiples.
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Thanks
Not sure what Google is trying to achieve with this.
Aggressive doze was so much better
c_86 said:
Mine seems to be doing good.
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Hello, would you link me this app please?
Sorry for the OT.
EDIT: Oh another thing.
Guys you're forgetting about the core.
Settings > System > Developer options > scroll to the bottom > Standby apps.
That is what really matters
Go play with the different buckets
More info: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/android-9-pie-thoroughly-reviewed/8/#h1
matteventu said:
Hello, would you link me this app please?
Sorry for the OT.
EDIT: Oh another thing.
Guys you're forgetting about the core.
Settings > System > Developer options > scroll to the bottom > Standby apps.
That is what really matters
Go play with the different buckets
More info: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/android-9-pie-thoroughly-reviewed/8/#h1
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thanks for this, makes sense
I wonder would these settings be saved to your gmail profile ? as in if i need to go back to stock or flash all would I have to re-set these up?
Just enable all of your apps unde battery power savings exclusions. This means exclude all. Wait 2-3 days for the ai to learn. The phone will be snappy again.
This happens also if the power saver is turned off. This ai is so weird. Just exclude all apps from being optimised.
I had to do this because my G7 kept closing my damn GPS apps randomly. After that, all is fine.
Interesting. I'll have to try this out.
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Inerent said:
Just enable all of your apps unde battery power savings exclusions. This means exclude all. Wait 2-3 days for the ai to learn. The phone will be snappy again.
This happens also if the power saver is turned off. This ai is so weird. Just exclude all apps from being optimised.
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So you mean to leave it with all apps excluded for 2 to 3 days, then change it back to before?
No. I meant leave the ai disable, or the apps excluded. All the apps. The ai is so weird. It screwed my CPU governor. Now, after one week, everything is fine. This ai also works when you have Power management off. Weird.
Dear LG, OFF means OFF! It is my business how I want to go with my phone.
I've run without power optimizing now for a month or so and I swear the battery life stayed the same. Huh. Seems like a worthless feature.
too many apps to enable ? is there a faster way rather than manually doing one by one ?
I have to restart my phone once a week or so when the phone starts to stutter , not sure if it s related to this power saving
Inerent said:
Just enable all of your apps unde battery power savings exclusions. This means exclude all. Wait 2-3 days for the ai to learn. The phone will be snappy again.
This happens also if the power saver is turned off. This ai is so weird. Just exclude all apps from being optimised.
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What ai is this?
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It's some sort of artificial intelligence software which looks for your app behaviour and tells to the CPU governor to use little low performance cores on some apps. That translates in laggy phone.
This software May be from lg, google or Qualcomm... but is s..t
redrol said:
I've run without power optimizing now for a month or so and I swear the battery life stayed the same. Huh. Seems like a worthless feature.
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Yes, battery is the same.
Might have to try it out, see if it makes a difference
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