Google I/O just listed today's Q beta will be available to Essential phones - Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion

edit:landing page and download link below
https://developer.android.com/preview/devices/index.html
https://www.essential.com/developer/android-q-beta

I noticed their website has a Fastboot file and an OTA file. Will the OTA still require wiping my device or will it install over the top of the May 2019 update?

knochnkopf said:
I noticed their website has a Fastboot file and an OTA file. Will the OTA still require wiping my device or will it install over the top of the May 2019 update?
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No just downloaded and sideloaded OTA and it updates without wipe. The only new features I don't see implemented is the new gesture system, it is still using pill style from Android P.

And this which is odd to me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.essential.beta
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swiftbones74 said:
And this which is odd to me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.essential.beta
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Woah. how did you come across that?

jawz101 said:
Woah. how did you come across that?
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I saw it on Telegram first. I believe @63c posted something about it. I had read an article a few months back that said Pixel's would be getting beta this way but super surprised to see mata firmware on the Play Store. It's really bizarre to me but I guess it makes perfect sense when you consider how hard Google tries to be like ?
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Anyone's check VoLTE after flashing 10.0 ??

No volte for me, (f*ck!)

just a note, cts is broken in q beta. you wont be able to use any safetynet apps like google pay or pokemon go or some banking apps.

It's here but not the most stable. Some apps and games don't work. Pixel Launcher crashes in startup, a few launchers I've tried don't work at the moment.

Working fine here. No app problems or crashes yet (but I'm only a few hours in).
My thoughts:
"Full gestural navigation" is difficult to use. The pill is too small to grab, and it makes app switching difficult.
Sometimes the nav bar comes back when full gesture is on (in the keyboard, for example). Pressing the back button will click on both the back button *and* whatever was behind it (an app in the launcher, for example)
2-button navigation (like Pie) works as it always has.
The app switcher draws below third-party launchers like Nova and Action Launcher. After about 1 second, the launcher disappears and the app switcher is accessible. Makes for a very buggy experience. I assume this is to allow launchers to perform an animation during the transition, which simply isn't implemented yet.
Dismissing notifications can only be done by swiping right now. Swiping left sets the preferences for notifications from that app.

How do you enable full-screen navigation? I am not seeing that option under settings.

docangle said:
How do you enable full-screen navigation? I am not seeing that option under settings.
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Settings>System>Gestures>System Navigation
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docangle said:
How do you enable full-screen navigation? I am not seeing that option under settings.
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Settings>System>Gestures>System Navigation

sequentious said:
Working fine here. No app problems or crashes yet (but I'm only a few hours in).
My thoughts:
"Full gestural navigation" is difficult to use. The pill is too small to grab, and it makes app switching difficult.
Sometimes the nav bar comes back when full gesture is on (in the keyboard, for example). Pressing the back button will click on both the back button *and* whatever was behind it (an app in the launcher, for example)
2-button navigation (like Pie) works as it always has.
The app switcher draws below third-party launchers like Nova and Action Launcher. After about 1 second, the launcher disappears and the app switcher is accessible. Makes for a very buggy experience. I assume this is to allow launchers to perform an animation during the transition, which simply isn't implemented yet.
Dismissing notifications can only be done by swiping right now. Swiping left sets the preferences for notifications from that app.
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Just wanted to mention, you don't have to initiate the gesture from the pill, whether you're swiping up to go home or swiping right to switch apps, you can do it from anywhere on the "navbar" for lack of a better term.
Edit: For the full gesture system.

Can anyone say how long it took from downloading the Essential Q App to actually receiving the OTA upgrade to 10 beta3

hooutoo said:
Can anyone say how long it took from downloading the Essential Q App to actually receiving the OTA upgrade to 10 beta3
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I opted in via the beta app before I went to see a movie, when I came out I had OTA notification, so within 2-3 hours. Some stuff pretty broken, so I would only recommend using if you're a developer or don't need this phone as daily driver.

Waiting
knochnkopf said:
I opted in via the beta app before I went to see a movie, when I came out I had OTA notification, so within 2-3 hours. Some stuff pretty broken, so I would only recommend using if you're a developer or don't need this phone as daily driver.
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This is a second phone for me and when I saw the new beta 3 phone list I turned it on and downloaded the app., approximately 9am Eastern. I hadn't used the phone in 3-4 months so there was a waiting notice to upgrade to the lastest Android 9 security patch. I hoped it would ignore it and go on to Q but of course no luck. The security update ran ok but no Q so far?? Don't have a sim in it presently, hope that doesn't stop the Q update over Wifi.

The Jack of Clubs said:
just a note, cts is broken in q beta. you wont be able to use any safetynet apps like google pay or pokemon go or some banking apps.
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Anyone tried Key, Chase or Citi banking apps?

FYI I had several apps crashing: Gmail, Outlook, Amazon Prime Video, and Amazon Shopping.
The fix was mentioned on Reddit but if you have opted into the beta for the Android System Webview you need to opt out of its beta in the Play Store, then disable and reenable Android System Webview.
So any apps that rely on Webview can probably be fixed that way

jawz101 said:
FYI I had several apps crashing: Gmail, Outlook, Amazon Prime Video, and Amazon Shopping.
The fix was mentioned on Reddit but if you have opted into the beta for the Android System Webview you need to opt out of its beta in the Play Store, then disable and reenable Android System Webview.
So any apps that rely on Webview can probably be fixed that way
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So if you never were in the beta of Webview you should be fine?

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5.6.0.0 Overview

November 14th, an update was forced into all Amazon Fires.
Main changes:
Notification: Notifications have been modernized, it will now display the app icon instead of a number saying the amount of notifications you have.
Shortcuts: Slightly changes, a tad skinnier
Settings: Some features moved to different categories. New "Alexa" category.
Exploit changes:
Launcher Hijack: I don't know why but it seems to work better on the new update
Hidden Changes:
New "Tabletsubscriptions" app:
•Create accounts and set passwords
find accounts on device
•Full network access
view connections
•Automatically launch at startup
•com.amazon.kor.demo.provider.permission.READ_PROVIDER
Did you find anything not mentioned above?
Just reply below!
TechNash said:
Launcher Hijack: I don't know why but it seems to work better on the new update
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What do you mean by "work better"? Fire Launcher is not showing anymore? Or you think it shows own icons for 100 ms less that before? :laugh:
sensboston said:
What do you mean by "work better"? Fire Launcher is not showing anymore? Or you think it shows own icons for 100 ms less that before? :laugh:
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It just works faster, less lag, and it rarely shows the fire launcher now.
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I'm interested in giving the Launcher Hijacker a shot on the new Fire HD 10 I got yesterday (gotta love CamelCamelCamel for letting me know the price dropped) but my tablet has already updated itself to 5.6.0.0 and now I don't see an option under Accessibility for "To detect home button press". First, any idea if Launcher Hijacker will still work if I don't have that option, and second, if I do need to enable that, any idea where it's moved to?
Thanks.
2017-11-23: Holy cow do I feel like a n00b, which is embarrassing for someone who's allegedly been around computers since Moses was a corporal. The button I couldn't find showed up AFTER I installed Launcher Hijacker. I now have Nova Launcher running on my Fire HD 10 and working as well as I can expect without root access (which I hope the mad geniuses at Kingroot will figure out soon).
Since 5.6 I can't open mobi's unless I reboot and then it loses bookmarks. Anyone else?
NerdFire said:
I'm interested in giving the Launcher Hijacker a shot on the new Fire HD 10 I got yesterday (gotta love CamelCamelCamel for letting me know the price dropped) but my tablet has already updated itself to 5.6.0.0 and now I don't see an option under Accessibility for "To detect home button press". First, any idea if Launcher Hijacker will still work if I don't have that option, and second, if I do need to enable that, any idea where it's moved to?
Thanks.
2017-11-23: Holy cow do I feel like a n00b, which is embarrassing for someone who's allegedly been around computers since Moses was a corporal. The button I couldn't find showed up AFTER I installed Launcher Hijacker. I now have Nova Launcher running on my Fire HD 10 and working as well as I can expect without root access (which I hope the mad geniuses at Kingroot will figure out soon).
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As much as I like Nova Launcher, I have Also tried Evie and Apex on my 7th Gen HD 8 5.6.0.0
I have found that the Apex Launcher works much better with very minimal blinking of the Fire Launcher when pressing the home as compared to the Nova Launcher. I can also hide all of those annoying Amazon Apps that I DON'T use (I know you can do this in Nova Launcher..) without having to pay for the nova Launcher. As far as launcher aesthetics, I prefer Evie the most but Apex performs the best for me and is clean in the terms of options if provides.
on 5.6, there is currently no way to remove unwanted software correct?
leopard_fist said:
on 5.6, there is currently no way to remove unwanted software correct?
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It was patched in 5.4.0.1.
I'm sorry.
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Yes, I have that problem also. I even tried disabling Whispersync in all my devices. However, it gets re-enabled somehow. I have to keep disabling it every time I use my devices.
Xeddicus said:
Since 5.6 I can't open mobi's unless I reboot and then it loses bookmarks. Anyone else?
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tech6 said:
Yes, I have that problem also. I even tried disabling Whispersync in all my devices. However, it gets re-enabled somehow. I have to keep disabling it every time I use my devices.
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I'm still trying to figure out how they managed to block an ADB feature working on LITERALLY every android tablet and smartphone I have worked with.
TechNash said:
I'm still trying to figure out how they managed to block an ADB feature working on LITERALLY every android tablet and smartphone I have worked with.
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They added a block list on their "pm" command. When we call "pm hide/uninstall" it seemingly checks if the app is in the block list.
Supersonic27543 said:
They added a block list on their "pm" command. When we call "pm hide/uninstall" it seemingly checks if the app is in the block list.
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Oh, didnt know block lists worked like that.
It makes sense, thnx for clarifyibg

Any possible way of using Nova launcher?

I'm really tempted to get one of these to replace my s8+, but I'm not sure if I could go without an app drawer. Could I perhaps delete the default launcher using adb? Or would that crash the whole phone?
Edit: this is what worked for me, putting it on the top so other people can find it more easily.
1. Make sure you have Nova or third party launcher installed.
2. Enable usb debugging in developer options.
3. Connect to your computer via usb
4. Type in:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
Optional if you use Gesture control:
5. Swiping gestures from the bottom of the screen won't work, if you want to use gesture controls, download fluid or edge gestures from play store (one is a freemium app and the other is a paid app). I heard Fluid is really really good and it's a sort of free, but I already have Edge Gestures because I bought it for my M5 tablet, so that's what I use instead.
6. Enable gesture app in accessibility services.
7. Type in special access in settings, and disable battery optimization for that app.
8. Go to battery option> battery usage, find gesture app, choose manually launch app and check all three options.
9. Go to recent apps, and tap the lock icon of gesture app to keep the app open in background, or the accessibility services will be revoked.
Hope it works for you.
Just use Nova and then set it as default.
does it not give you the option of using an app drawer like other Huawei phones?
It has but Huawei software is the worst and only drawback of Huawei/Honor phones. If you can ignore the EMUI crapware Huawei phones are the best. Before you could just flash a custom ROM. Now since Huawei no longer provide code, it's impossible. You can get code via third party software but as it's paid there won't be much development.
had the Mate 9 and never had any issues with the Huawei software personally. Dont understand the hate it seems to generate. If the Magic 2 is the same, although i see its been updated from EMUI 9 to MAGIC 2 software now then im very interested in this phone. Just waiting for either global versions to be available or a UK version if they decide to release it here
I tried,adb shell to disable official APP then you can use Nova but still impossible to set the default launcher. But you could still use nova Swip up gesture may be disable to just tap nova in the default setting can fix this . But swip up to show the recent can't work anymore
My Magic 2 has arrived. I installed Nova Launcher on it. At first I disabled the default Launcher but it kept coming back when I rebooted it. So I just uninstalled the default Launcher using ADB.
Another problem I ran into is that when using Nova Launcher, the swipe up gestures don't work, so I had to buy a third party gesture app. But the accessibility services keep turning itself off. I tried managing the app manually in Phone Manager but sometimes the gesture app would still get disabled. Lol.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
My Magic 2 has arrived. I installed Nova Launcher on it. At first I disabled the default Launcher but it kept coming back when I rebooted it. So I just uninstalled the default Launcher using ADB.
Another problem I ran into is that when using Nova Launcher, the swipe up gestures don't work, so I had to buy a third party gesture app. But the accessibility services keep turning itself off. I tried managing the app manually in Phone Manager but sometimes the gesture app would still get disabled. Lol.
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Welcome to Huawei World. The Magic 2 is an expensive phone. So instead of this stuff I would advise you to stomach the software and enjoy it. Accessibility service is a long running problem of EMUI 8 & 9. So at this point, if you are up for it, I advise you to unlock your Bootloader via and third party software. They are paid, keep that in mind. After that flash any project Treble GSI. However keep in Mind you are Running EMUI 9 so it may not work. Alternatively your best bet is to hope for a change and stomach it.
Mannan Qamar said:
Welcome to Huawei World. The Magic 2 is an expensive phone. So instead of this stuff I would advise you to stomach the software and enjoy it. Accessibility service is a long running problem of EMUI 8 & 9. So at this point, if you are up for it, I advise you to unlock your Bootloader via and third party software. They are paid, keep that in mind. After that flash any project Treble GSI. However keep in Mind you are Running EMUI 9 so it may not work. Alternatively your best bet is to hope for a change and stomach it.
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Thabks for the reply. It must be an Honor issue I guess. I have the same gesture navigation app installed on my M5 tablet and I had no issues with it. Although I can't remember if that was before or after I flashed OpenKirin on it. It seems to be working now that I disabled auto optimization for my gesture app. Fingers crossed.
I think I've worked it out now. As long as I have the gesture app opened in the background and have the battery optimization set to manual for the app, the accessibility services won't be disabled. Which leads me to another minor problem of not being able to use the clear app function or I'll have to turn it on again. I think I can live with that for now, at least the behavior is predictable and I know what is causing the problem.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
Thabks for the reply. It must be an Honor issue I guess. I have the same gesture navigation app installed on my M5 tablet and I had no issues with it. Although I can't remember if that was before or after I flashed OpenKirin on it. It seems to be working now that I disabled auto optimization for my gesture app. Fingers crossed.
I think I've worked it out now. As long as I have the gesture app opened in the background and have the battery optimization set to manual for the app, the accessibility services won't be disabled. Which leads me to another minor problem of not being able to use the clear app function or I'll have to turn it on again. I think I can live with that for now, at least the behavior is predictable and I know what is causing the problem.
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Good Luck Man. At this point buying from Huawei/Honor is a risky investment. I hope yours is worth it. With the bootloader fiasco development for these phones is non-existent. There is some hope it may change given the backlash but, well. Good Luck. From what I have heard the Magic 2 is a good phone. Enjoy it. As for me, I am gonna try to avoid these phone. But they are the only budget phones with Good Specs so I am stuck. And yeah. The issues always go away after flashing custom ROMs.
Mannan Qamar said:
Good Luck Man. At this point buying from Huawei/Honor is a risky investment. I hope yours is worth it. With the bootloader fiasco development for these phones is non-existent. There is some hope it may change given the backlash but, well. Good Luck. From what I have heard the Magic 2 is a good phone. Enjoy it. As for me, I am gonna try to avoid these phone. But they are the only budget phones with Good Specs so I am stuck. And yeah. The issues always go away after flashing custom ROMs.
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Yeah man. Im switching from a US unlocked s8+, that has no unlocked bootloader or any dev as well. I do miss my OnePlus though, but it's such a shame that the 6T has no LED notification nor an AOD. Otherwise I would've bought it even though the SD845 is half a generation behind the Kirin 980.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
Yeah man. Im switching from a US unlocked s8+, that has no unlocked bootloader or any dev as well. I do miss my OnePlus though, but it's such a shame that the 6T has no LED notification nor an AOD. Otherwise I would've bought it even though the SD845 is half a generation behind the Kirin 980.
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Notification LED Is a loss. But you can enable AOD via Root. Or you know, just flash a custom ROM.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
My Magic 2 has arrived. I installed Nova Launcher on it. At first I disabled the default Launcher but it kept coming back when I rebooted it. So I just uninstalled the default Launcher using ADB.
Another problem I ran into is that when using Nova Launcher, the swipe up gestures don't work, so I had to buy a third party gesture app. But the accessibility services keep turning itself off. I tried managing the app manually in Phone Manager but sometimes the gesture app would still get disabled. Lol.
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Hello! I'm thinking about buying this phone. But as you have it, there are some things I need to know:
1) Does it have Google play installed? Or do you have to install it yourself? If so, was it difficult or you just enter the honor store, look for Google, and download it?
2) Too many Chinese phones have problems with third party apps notifications (especially WhatsApp). Like you don't receive the notification unless you open the app. Does it happen with the honor Magic 2 Too?
3) The always on display in most Chinese phones is useless cause only shows notifications from messages, phone calls or some Chinese apps like WeChat or QQ (no Gmail, Facebook, WhatsApp).
4) Although the phone has Spanish language, the virtual assistant only works with Chinese voice.
Thanks
Lucky_stipe said:
Hello! I'm thinking about buying this phone. But as you have it, there are some things I need to know:
1) Does it have Google play installed? Or do you have to install it yourself? If so, was it difficult or you just enter the honor store, look for Google, and download it?
2) Too many Chinese phones have problems with third party apps notifications (especially WhatsApp). Like you don't receive the notification unless you open the app. Does it happen with the honor Magic 2 Too?
3) The always on display in most Chinese phones is useless cause only shows notifications from messages, phone calls or some Chinese apps like WeChat or QQ (no Gmail, Facebook, WhatsApp).
4) Although the phone has Spanish language, the virtual assistant only works with Chinese voice.
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1) It has Google framework preinstalled, and you would just need to download play store on Huawei app gallery. It's as simple as that.
2) I get WhatsApp messages instantly with the screen off.
3) The AOD is very basic. So it only has the time, battery level. The lockscreen shows you the song you're playing (on Google play music, but not Spotify strangely) and some shortcuts.
4) The phone has Spanish but the assistant is in Chinese only. I'm not sure if they've updated it are planning to update it. I uninstalled it via ADB so can't test that out for you.
I install nova launcher , and use adb command remove default launcher:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
It's work! I can use nova launcher as my default launcher...
But there is a BIG problem:
The home key (or home gesture) don't work! It's mean I can go home at anywhere...
ps: Go "Huawei Store" install & run huawei launcher again can let stock launcher back without factory reset.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
1) It has Google framework preinstalled, and you would just need to download play store on Huawei app gallery. It's as simple as that.
2) I get WhatsApp messages instantly with the screen off.
3) The AOD is very basic. So it only has the time, battery level. The lockscreen shows you the song you're playing (on Google play music, but not Spotify strangely) and some shortcuts.
4) The phone has Spanish but the assistant is in Chinese only. I'm not sure if they've updated it are planning to update it. I uninstalled it via ADB so can't test that out for you.
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Thanks man. You've been most helpful
leedashone said:
I install nova launcher , and use adb command remove default launcher:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
It's work! I can use nova launcher as my default launcher...
But there is a BIG problem:
The home key (or home gesture) don't work! It's mean I can go home at anywhere...
ps: Go "Huawei Store" install & run huawei launcher again can let stock launcher back without factory reset.
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Try fluid gesture app + Nova
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I use edge gestures from the play store, it cost like $2 but I had it already because I bought it to use with my tablet.
You have to go to the recent apps page and lock it in, as well as ignore the battery optimization for it to keep working, otherwise emui will keep disabling its accessibility services access.
leedashone said:
I install nova launcher , and use adb command remove default launcher:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
It's work! I can use nova launcher as my default launcher...
But there is a BIG problem:
The home key (or home gesture) don't work! It's mean I can go home at anywhere...
ps: Go "Huawei Store" install & run huawei launcher again can let stock launcher back without factory reset.
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Because your are only disabling the apk, NOT uninstalling (which you can't without root). The gestures are only working with the build in launcher.
ChildishGambino3005 said:
1) It has Google framework preinstalled, and you would just need to download play store on Huawei app gallery. It's as simple as that.
2) I get WhatsApp messages instantly with the screen off.
3) The AOD is very basic. So it only has the time, battery level. The lockscreen shows you the song you're playing (on Google play music, but not Spotify strangely) and some shortcuts.
4) The phone has Spanish but the assistant is in Chinese only. I'm not sure if they've updated it are planning to update it. I uninstalled it via ADB so can't test that out for you.
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Did you manage to enable Google Assistant?
For me the app itself works but I can't enable "Access with Voice Match" to say "OK Google" from any screen, not sure why.

3rd party launchers - recents tab

I'm currently on Android 10 and reluctantly sticking with the pixel launcher. When I use Lawnchair or Nova I get the the recents tab as sort of an overlay over the homescreen. This happens a few times a day and the only thing I can do to get rid of it is to reboot. This is wicked annoying. Has anyone experienced this and/or know if there's a fix?
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I'm currently on Android 10 and reluctantly sticking with the pixel launcher. When I use Lawnchair or Nova I get the the recents tab as sort of an overlay over the homescreen. This happens a few times a day and the only thing I can do to get rid of it is to reboot. This is wicked annoying. Has anyone experienced this and/or know if there's a fix?
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I've not experienced this ? although I am using Lawnchair with QuickSwitch on a LC build that supports Q as a recents provider, but I've had no real issues regarding the weird recents overlay stuff.
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I also experience this with Nova launcher. I am really missing the clear all button. I am guessing some compatibility issue with the pixel launcher. I typically freeze or delete the stock launcher, however when I froze it I lost the ability to open the recent tab at all.
Im using Evie launcher. Its simple, but does what I want for my Pixel 3A.
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I also experience this with Nova launcher. I am really missing the clear all button. I am guessing some compatibility issue with the pixel launcher. I typically freeze or delete the stock launcher, however when I froze it I lost the ability to open the recent tab at all.
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The clear all button only shows when using a launcher that is the recents provider.
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guitarsmurf2501 said:
I'm currently on Android 10 and .... [w]hen I use ... Nova [Launcher] I get the the recents tab as sort of an overlay over the homescreen. ...
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I don't use gesture navigation, rather I prefer the old-style three-button system navigation (System settings -> System -> Gestures -> System navigation -> 3-button navigation). I'm not sure this suggestion will help you but it was offered to me through the Discord support site:
After a reboot go into Nova Launcher's settings and scroll near the bottom. Click on "Set Default Launcher". The normal Android prompt asks if you want to "Use Nova Launcher as Home". Tap "Always". It will appear as if the Nova Launcher Settings window is re-drawn. Back out of Nova's settings.
Now when you tap on the square recents button you'll see your recent application list in a manner which is similar to Android 9. Even though you told Android 10 to always use Nova Launcher, after each reboot you'll need to follow this process to get the three-button navigation to work in Nova Launcher the way it traditionally has. So this isn't really a fix but a circumvention for how Android 10 and third-party launcher software work together.
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I don't use gesture navigation, rather I prefer the old-style three-button system navigation (System settings -> System -> Gestures -> System navigation -> 3-button navigation). I'm not sure this suggestion will help you but it was offered to me through the Discord support site:
After a reboot go into Nova Launcher's settings and scroll near the bottom. Click on "Set Default Launcher". The normal Android prompt asks if you want to "Use Nova Launcher as Home". Tap "Always". It will appear as if the Nova Launcher Settings window is re-drawn. Back out of Nova's settings.
Now when you tap on the square recents button you'll see your recent application list in a manner which is similar to Android 9. Even though you told Android 10 to always use Nova Launcher, after each reboot you'll need to follow this process to get the three-button navigation to work in Nova Launcher the way it traditionally has. So this isn't really a fix but a circumvention for how Android 10 and third-party launcher software work together.
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Thanks I'll try that. So far it seems to work. I used to just go into settings and pick there default home there. Fingers crossed!
The Clear all works with nova launcher when using 2 button navigation but not 3 button.
I sent an email to Nova about this and this is on Googles side according to them. They sent this back
Hello,
You can read Google's official statement and our statement about the issues you and anyone else using Android 10 is experiencing. Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android.
We understand that this statement was made 2 months during a beta of Android 10. However, as is stated in the below URL, this issue will remain broken even after Android 10 is released in its final form, which was September 3rd, 2019. What this means is that Google knew well ahead of time that they had no plans to fix this until much later so it's still a relative issue today.
Google's statement: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/07/android-q-beta-5-update.html
Our statement: https://help.teslacoilapps.com/faq/gesture-navigation
What this means is that Nova, nor any other 3rd party launcher, can fix or change this in any way at this time. This issue is 100% on Google's end and Google is the only ones who can fix this issue. Their entire statement is below. Please note that the statement was from some time in July 2019, but it still pertains today and will continue to pertain until Google includes a fix for it in an upcoming release of Android 10.
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Yeah, looks like I'm stuck with the Pixel Launcher, which is not too bad really.
I knew Android 10 gestures don't work with 3rd party launcher, but now recents is buggy as well... Almost as if they tied the recents in with the launcher.
Don't want to sound like I'm ranting, but... My Huawei had these gestures since Android Pie (EMUI 9) and it worked properly from day one. Just saying...
I'll have to wait.

No more recent apps with custom launcher after upgrade to OOS 10.0.1 stable

For years I've been running first Nova, then SmartLauncher on all my devices. I made it a habit to at least freeze, sometimes delete the default launchers. So I also did on my OP6, and it wasn't any problem until I update from OOS 9.0.9 to 10.0.1 over the last weekend. After the (OTA) update I first re-activated Smart Launcher, then froze OnePlus launcher using Titanium, like I always did.
But then I realized that the navigation bar's "square" button had stopped working: no more recent apps pop up. The button shows the "pressure" but doesn't do anything.
I tried to add the "recents" function to some other gesture, but still no success. Rebooted several times, deleted caches through TWRP - nothing.
Next I un-froze OP launcher and activated it. That's how I got back the "recents". Then I made smart launcher my default launcher again >> recents still working.
Next I froze OP launcher again >> again no more recents
So I thought that this must be a bug of Smart Launcher. Luckily the devs today released an update (V 5.4), but that didn't help in my situation.
NExt thing I tried was installing a 3rd launcher - back to Nova. But >> exactly the same behaviour: as long as OP launcher is "there" I have access to the recents. If not, then no more recents, no matter which launcher I use.
Questions:
is anyone else seeing this?
does anyone know whether this is unique to my OP6, or to OOS 10.0.1 in general, or do other devices see the same behaviour?
Never frozen op launcher! This program contains gesture and other base function since android 10.
Shyciii said:
Never frozen op launcher! This program contains gesture and other base function since android 10.
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Yep, that's what it looks like. So you mean this is a unique "feature" of OP devices running stock OOS?
lm089 said:
Yep, that's what it looks like. So you mean this is a unique "feature" of OP devices running stock OOS?
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Not only oneplus "feature". Other device too. My previous phone could not work gesture, when freeze stock launcher: Xiaomi Mi A2.
My issue might be related.
I updated my OnePlus 6 to OOS 10.0 stable when it was released.
However, due to the missing "fastboot boot" feature, I couldn't re-flash TWRP (and Magisk).
Now that 10.3 was released and "fastboot boot" works again, I booted TWRP, flashed it and then Magisk according to https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/how-to-flash-twrp-magisk-android-10-t3988213
Now - everything works fine - only the recent apps feature is totally broken (as in - I press the recent button, nothing happens).
I run SmartLauncher and do NOT have the OnePlus Launcher frozen/uninstalled.
I tried to install the OP Launcher 2.5.1 (to get vertical scrolling back) - didn't help.
Installed most recent OP Launcher - still, no change.
I force closed the launcher, rebooted, so far nothing helped.
Any ideas?
Kind regards
xpac
Android 10 fully integrates recents with stock launcher, so if you stop the stock launcher, recents screen won't work anymore
Are we talking about the Android Stock launcher, or the OnePlus stock launcher?
I have the latter installed, and it's neither stopped, frozen or anything like that. I even made it my default launcher for a moment, still the recents button does nothing...
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Are we talking about the Android Stock launcher, or the OnePlus stock launcher?
I have the latter installed, and it's neither stopped, frozen or anything like that. I even made it my default launcher for a moment, still the recents button does nothing...
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Hard to say what's going wrong. From what I get recent functionality now is part of the OP launcher.
Setting your installed OP launcher the default launcher you should have recents back. If not then something must be wrong with your OOS version.
Just checked: with OOS 10.3.0 my OP launcher's version is 4.1.1.191125... and so on. Is that your version as well?
lm089 said:
Hard to say what's going wrong. From what I get recent functionality now is part of the OP launcher.
Setting your installed OP launcher the default launcher you should have recents back. If not then something must be wrong with your OOS version.
Just checked: with OOS 10.3.0 my OP launcher's version is 4.1.1.191125... and so on. Is that your version as well?
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Yeah, same version, ending on ...1307ad5. Afaik it auto-updates via Play Store.
So, it "should" work, but it doesn't. I'll try to redownload 10.3 and reflash it, hope that it restores something that I broke...
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Yep, that's what it looks like. So you mean this is a unique "feature" of OP devices running stock OOS?
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Hi Thanks for the info, as a quick update Ive found that if I dont set any launcher as a default then the recent apps works fine, but as soon as I set any to the default launcher status the recent apps menu doesnt work anymore
I could set Poco as the default but I have launched it and gone through all the permissions etc. but when I launch another launcher I actually want to use the recent apps button no longer works, so either way its no good unless I never set any app as a default launcher which is ridiculous
Not sure how I can fix it either theres not much support on XDA on this phone, although overall its a good phone just let down by Android 10.
Maybe possible that I resent the device and not let it update to Android 10 although its all set up to go :crying: in the hope that Android 9 doesnt have this affect. Is there any scripts or fixes out there for forcing the recent apps button to work overriding the permissions set?
Any help appreciated on this unusual error :fingers-crossed:
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Also Im wanting to use Smart launcher 5 but the Poco looks stock ish but Ive never liked this. I have the Armor X5 so Poco is the default on installation. I know there was much issue with Oneplus 6 phones, but Im not using gestures (dont like it) I just want stock android recent apps button to work.
Ive tried over laying navigation apps but of course none will work once a default launcher is set.
ATB

Launchers and gestures problems

Pixel launcher has the annoying search bar on its home screen which is irremovable.
Nova launcher is arguably the best for customizability. But there's something that ticks me off when using Nova. Whenever you open recent apps the transition isn't smooth as with Pixel. It has a small hiccup.
(See https://imgur.com/a/lewvZu3 for what I mean)
I tried almost every launcher on the market and they all had the same problem.
So I contacted Nova's development team to give them my feedback. This is what they had to say:
"Hello,
PLEASE READ THIS RESPONSE IN FULL!
You can read Google's official statement and our statement about the issues you and anyone else using Android 10 and Android 11 are experiencing. Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android(Stated March 2019.).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google has no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
This includes things such as the CLOSE ALL/CLEAR ALL button not showing up when you access the Recent Apps screen. As well as a delay of being able to tap on app icons when returning to the home screen from another app, from viewing the Recent Apps screen or anything similar.
These problems will still be there when Android 11 is released in its final form as Google has made it clear it's not going to fix/change things any time soon.
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as contacting any launcher developer isn't the correct thing to do and isn't going to accomplish anything.
SAMSUNG USERS: Samsung has enabled full system gestures to be enabled within 3rd party launchers with their One UI 2.5 update. This means you can enable those gestures, but things are still very broken, especially when it comes to animations and how smooth the gestures work. This is NOT something Nova, or any other 3rd party launcher can fix. Only Google can fix it.
In the end, none of this is something we(Nova) can fix or change in any way and neither can any other 3rd party launcher for that matter. It is ultimately up to Google and only Google to fix full system gestures completely. Though they have made it clear that full system gestures will remain broken even with the final release of Android 11 and likely well beyond that.
We understand that this statement was made during a beta version of Android 10. However, as is stated in the below URL, this issue will remain broken even after Android 10, and now Android 11, is released in its final form. What this means is that Google knew well ahead of time that they had no plans to fix this until much later so it's still a relative issue today.
GOOGLE'S STATEMENT:
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/07/android-q-beta-5-update.html
OUR STATEMENT:
https://help.teslacoilapps.com/faq/gesture-navigation
As of the December 2019 Security Patch from Google, you can now enable full system gestures within 3rd party launchers. However, please note, there are still a lot of issues with the gesture system such as animations not working, Close All button not showing up and several other things. This is not something any launcher developer, including us here at Nova, can fix or change in any way.
This is still all up to Google to fix at some point in the future and to get things working 100% the way everyone expects them to be.
If you experience any issues at all while using full system gestures, it is highly suggested that you contact Google directly and/or file bug reports with them directly so that your voice can be heard by them directly.
ACTION LAUNCHER'S FALSE CLAIMS: Action Launcher made an announcement back in late December 2019, is actually misleading and 100% incorrect. They are referring to the back swipe edit zones and similar stuff. Full system gestures are completely controlled by Android and not something a launcher can just suddenly add support for or change in any way.
If you actually try to use the full system gestures in Action Launcher, you'll see they are still as broken as they have been and will remain that way until Google fixes things themselves."
Edit: uploaded an animated gif of the example but XDA converted it to a still image, so I had to upload on imgur.
I'm using Nova as well. Have you also had an issue when swiping up and holding to access recent apps, the apps fill the entire screen instead of showing the smaller preview window?
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I'm using Nova as well. Have you also had an issue when swiping up and holding to access recent apps, the apps fill the entire screen instead of showing the smaller preview window?
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Just updated to A11 beta and the bugs are gone. It's working smoothly now.
The gestures work fine if you're willing to root and use QuickSwitch with a supported launcher. (No third party launchers support A11 with QuickSwitch yet though)
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using XDA Labs
i have this problem on a oneplus ,Do you have enable the navigation with gestures?
when i use navigation bar this issue solve it most of the times its a common problem on nova for not having all the code for android 10 as nova tell that navigation gestures on android 10 are not totally compatible with the launcher
M0shi said:
Pixel launcher has the annoying search bar on its home screen which is irremovable.
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Search bar can be removed and more options.
See this thread
Just make sure you get the right files for A10, I have not tested on A11 yet.
kc6wke said:
Search bar can be removed and more options.
See this thread
Just make sure you get the right files for A10, I have not tested on A11 yet.
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Awesome! Thanks!

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