morning guys
I've seen a few threads about buying in the US and using the N5 in different countries and the fact that although you can use it for 3G/GSM, being able to use 4G LTE is a no go due to the bands that are utilised.
Does/Would anyone know if this is changeable due to the radio being used or would it be a hardware matter as to me it would seem abit odd to produce 2 different phones using the same form factor where a piece of software enabling the bands would be more cost efficient. I appreciate that the software etc is probably being looked at by Dev's now but was wondering if anyone with previous knowledge of this would know.
Only reason I ask is as I'm in the US at the moment (the 32Gb works out considerably cheaper than in the UK) and the area I live in (in the UK) hasn't got 4G (and probably won't have for a while), whether or not to purchase one and then wait for a radio change, but if thats not possible I'll have to go with the expensive UK version
thanks for you help
There are two Nexus 5 models, the D820 (for the U.S) & D821 (for the rest of the world. According to this article by Android Central, it seems that there is a physical difference between the radios installed in each model. So I don't think you would have the option of flashing a radio from a D821 on to a D820 and suddenly have access to UK/European LTE bands. I'm no expert though so maybe others could confirm/deny this.
I too would like to know the same thing (hoping to take advantage of relatives in the US )
However reading around a bit I think it's a hardware limitation. They use the same software on the phones, but they enable the different LTE bands built into the hardware.
Pretty sure no amount of flashing radios will enable the different LTE bands...I'd love to be wrong though.
Shame, even after sales tax the saving would have been worth it. Might have to bite the bullet and buy UK price £££££££££
Hi all,
I hope to find a solution to a very strange problem I face. Sometime ago I bought a Nexus 5 D821. Th process was a little bit confusing, as I ordered the phone from eglobal (a chinese merchant), and the phone was delivered from the UK. until I faced my current problems, the phone worked quite nicely, so I cannot tell anything bad yet. However, recently I got a new mobile contract, which supports LTE (Vodafone Germany), but I am not able to connect to any LTE Band here. As it turns out, my phone, which in fact is the D821 Version, does only support the US LTE Bands 25, 26 and 41. I can only suppose that something strange happend during the manufacturing process, maybe this European phone should have been sold on the US market, so they patched it or something like that.
As I'm pretty sure, first you will think, well he got a D820, so whats this guy's problem, so I add some screenshot recently taken, which come from my phone. (I will add the images, once I figure out how it works.)
My Question is, is there any way to get the Europe Bands work on my phone. I found certain threads, discussing how to enable different bands on other phone versions, e.g. enable band 3 on D820, but that is not my use case.
As I understood it correctly, my hardware should support the European bands. If there really is a hardware difference, I guess that my phone neither will work on US LTE bands.
I can only speculate, so is it possible that someone extracts a certain file out of a D821, which I can flash to my phone? I read something about qnx files, which are also used to enable other bands. I think I'm quite skilled to do some further research, if someone can point me into the right direction. E.g. where can I find the configuration of the bands, is this somewhere in /proc filesystem? My phone is rooted and I'm familiar with linux and its commands. I bet it would take ages to gather all the necessary information on my own, unfortunately I do not have the time, so I though it would be beneficial to ask here for some help.
However, I would highly appreciate your comments, suggestions and any kind of help you could provide.
Best regards,
0xrayn
images can be found here (cannot upload yet to xdm, sorry):
ra23.net/imgs
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Sorry mate, wish i could help. D820 owner here, bumping your thread.
Hey all,
This is by no means a "dig" at the devs or impugning their work in any way. They're all a decent bunch who work hard to provide us something for free.
But I just wanted to know what is so difficult about adding 5G compatibility to their work. Could they not just obtain everything they need from a full 5G ROM download?
What exactly is needed?
Thanks,
Speedy! [emoji965]️[emoji965]️
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So after the devs get whatever software is needed, how would you propose they add the hardware?
changes are a X50 5G modem, a 5G antennae and redesigned NFC antennae - according to many articles.
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So after the devs get whatever software is needed, how would you propose they add the hardware?
changes are a X50 5G modem, a 5G antennae and redesigned NFC antennae - according to many articles.
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Maybe what he means is that most custom roms are for the non-5G variant and don't offer an additional version for the 5G-variant. Whether or not this is feasible or not depends on how the software differences between those two phones is implemented by Oneplus.
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
I have just ordered a CN version for use in the UK and from what i have read it lacks 1 frequency (band 32 i think) which from what i'm aware o2 in UK doesn't use .... Is this correct anyone? (Sorry if this a thread hijack)
NaabKing said:
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
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Hi, just to be sure we're on the same page, I read that IN2010 is the international version (5 4gLTE bands support) and IN2020 is the Chinese one, which is missing one band used here in Europe.
Are you sure IN2010 is Chinese ?
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Hi, just to be sure we're on the same page, I read that IN2010 is the international version (5 4gLTE bands support) and IN2020 is the Chinese one, which is missing one band used here in Europe.
Are you sure IN2010 is Chinese ?
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IN2010 is the Chinese version of OP8 , while IN2020 is the chinsese version of OP8Pro
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IN2010 is the Chinese version of OP8 , while IN2020 is the chinsese version of OP8Pro
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Oh thx, I didn't see that one coming , so I have 2 questions : where to search for those infos (regional variants numbers I mean) and is this a software matter or a hardware matter ? (Will there be missing/China specials bands in it or it's just software)
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Are there any global version of the OnePlus 8, if so what would be its regional variant name ?
Raiz said:
Oh thx, I didn't see that one coming , so I have 2 questions : where to search for those infos (regional variants numbers I mean) and is this a software matter or a hardware matter ? (Will there be missing/China specials bands in it or it's just software)
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I just use google to find out a variant. The main differences are hardware related, specifically the bands of the device. There is also a chinese version of Oxygen OS which is called Hydrogen OS , but this can change easily by flashing global unlocked OxygenOS without any compromises.
Here you can learn more about the bands in each version : https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g1rm7e/oneplus_8_pro_versions_and_4glte_and_5g_nr/
Edit: I think there is not a global version bandwise. (US, Europe, India and China as far as i know )
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NaabKing said:
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
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Check this : https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-oneplus-8-12gb-cn. It mentions band compatibility with your country's carriers.
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I just use google to find out a variant. The main differences are
... https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-oneplus-8-12gb-cn. It mentions band compatibility with your country's carriers.
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Hi,
Thanks for all this clarification, indeed I've been kinda fooled by marketing speech...
I've bought the OnePlus 8 not on the OnePlus website but on another one, and the announce said "OnePlus International Version IN2010", I was like "cool, plus it's cheap, let's get this".
Now I understand the business behind the whole website (a French one): they buy in China, flash the global rom manually and sells it cheaper, but make a little margin on the final price. That's why they call it international, just because of the ROM!
I knew (but still wanted confirmation) about missing bands a HydrogenOS and now I fully understand the market scheme. So I'll be missing B28 band (used in France with my career for 4G LTE)and an EU-compatible charger. No big deal but I'm kinda disappointed in myself, not being able to see through marketing speech and candidly trusting attractive prices... Well, we learn as we make mistakes (and I'm not ready to forgot that one).
One last think, kil-movil had a section for the OnePlus 8 called "Global" with every bands marked as available, and the model number was still IN2010. I guess they're part of the deal, since when I clicked on "see offers" I was redirected to the website I bought it in.
Even the seller was lying as he said "compatible with every bands in France". And when people ask, he was denying it every single time
Thanks for your explanations tho, I'll be able to warn the next ones at least.
Raiz said:
Hi,
Thanks for all this clarification, indeed I've been kinda fooled by marketing speech...
I've bought the OnePlus 8 not on the OnePlus website but on another one, and the announce said "OnePlus International Version IN2010", I was like "cool, plus it's cheap, let's get this".
Now I understand the business behind the whole website (a French one): they buy in China, flash the global rom manually and sells it cheaper, but make a little margin on the final price. That's why they call it international, just because of the ROM!
I knew (but still wanted confirmation) about missing bands a HydrogenOS and now I fully understand the market scheme. So I'll be missing B28 band (used in France with my career for 4G LTE)and an EU-compatible charger. No big deal but I'm kinda disappointed in myself, not being able to see through marketing speech and candidly trusting attractive prices... Well, we learn as we make mistakes (and I'm not ready to forgot that one).
One last think, kil-movil had a section for the OnePlus 8 called "Global" with every bands marked as available, and the model number was still IN2010. I guess they're part of the deal, since when I clicked on "see offers" I was redirected to the website I bought it in.
Even the seller was lying as he said "compatible with every bands in France". And when people ask, he was denying it every single time
Thanks for your explanations tho, I'll be able to warn the next ones at least.
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That is unfortunate. Can't you claim RMA or something?
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That is unfortunate. Can't you claim RMA or something?
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Yup don't worry, I can return it and having all my money back but I don't think I will, my Nextbit Robin (daily driver) is dying and not having B28 4G out of 4 other antennas available isn't a big deal. I have only 50 Mo of data so I don't use 4G often. I would have been bothered by the charger but the seller claims (if it's not a lie) that he gives us an adapter. (Comments says he does, so hopefully he'll do)
Right now the only thing I have to do is getting past the disillusionment with some good music. Have you any title to recommend?
I have here listed supported 4G & 5G bands and Carrier Aggregation combinations of OnePlus 8:
China variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2010
Global variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2013
olkitu said:
I have here listed supported 4G & 5G bands and Carrier Aggregation combinations of OnePlus 8:
China variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2010
Global variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2013
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IN2013= EU version, not global, there is no global version.
But thx for the website, it's nice to have that tool
Is it possible to activate the VoLTE service (Vodafone ITA) with IN2010?
Hello, I have just ordered the oneplus 8 through Fnac and I think it is the version IN2010, seem like I cant find any EU version from fnac ( sorry im new in France )
My question is do you know any others site selling op8 EU version if not, does the IN2010 work fine in france?