Hi everybody.
I hope someone can help me because I've been researching for months and I'm running out of options.
First, I need to have 2 lines active at any moment, one local and another from a foreign country, in roaming. Most of the available phones are dual standby, what means that when you get a call in one SIM the other one is disconnected. That's not good enough, because I need to know if someone calls me to the foreign number while I'm talking in the local number.
When both numbers are from the same country, some people configures call forwarding from one SIM to the other. That way, if one SIM is unavailable, you get the call in the other. But having 2 numbers from 2 different countries that solution causes more expenses, the call forward is an international call...
So I've been working with a dual active smartphone: a Huawei Honor 8, one of the last ones with 2 antennas. It's been working good, but the second antenna is only 2G, and 2G is being disabled in some places as 5G arrives. I totally understand that, it has to die as 1G died before. But it causes me a lot of communication issues.
Some options I've been looking for:
- A dual active smartphone with 3G in the second antenna. But I don't find any new dual active smartphones manufactured in the last 3 years...
- I read a lot about 4G dual VoLTE, but it seems to be dual standby. It seems that, during a call, it uses VoLTE to forward calls to the disconnected SIM over the 4G data connection in the enabled SIM, but I'm not sure if this will work with SIMs from different countries -although both providers support VoLTE.
- An external device that gives my phone a second SIM -like PIECE in Kickstarter, that never delivered-.
- A second dumbphone with the foreign SIM, only for getting calls, very long batter duration. But the options seem to be very few, and less 3G/4G...
So I'm running out of ideas. Do you know any modern dual active smartphone with 3G in the secondary SIM? Do you know if VoLTE works for call forward with SIMs from different countries? Do you have any suggestion of a good reliable dumbphone for the second line? Do you have any other solution I didn't think aboyt? Please please, help. I really appreciate it.
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I have 2 cell phone services - TMobile and AT&T (Tilt). I do not want to carry 2 cellphones but would want both active at the same time. One option would be to use GSM cell phone wrist watch for the T-Mobile service. Is there a way to receive call on the AT&T Tilt from the GSM cell phone wrist watch using bluetooth?
i.e I want to use my AT&T Tilt as a bluetooth headset for my T-Mobile service.
wouldnt it be easier just to forward all calls from one line to the other?
Do a search for dual-sim cards. That might be a solution...
Call forwarding would help, but I would end up wasting AT&T minutes as well.
And Dual-Sim solution allows only one SIM to be active at any given time.
I'm considering one of these as my next device.
One main issue for me is being able to use 2 sim cards in 1 device.
Currently I'm using good quality cut type dual SIM adaptor, has worked well in all my devies so far !
Anyone using this style of adaptor & can comment on how well it fits into SIM slot ect & if SDK menu functions correctly.
Thanks,
Hi Mister B,
So you're using a good quality cut type right now?
Which one?
It's always a bit confusing because there are soooo many out there.
I used to have a HTC Kaiser (until it was stolen).
In that one I used a 15th gen cut card.
Got my touch pro last saturday and have tried the 15th, 16th and 20th gen.
16th works flawless!
Just pick one up on ebay.
Didn't put the cover on the card just inserted it with a bit of care. Fits nicely.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
BuDDaH
Update
Well.. I cheered to early.
With my usim I loose connection every now and then.
I've ordered a 23rd gen sim to see if that's any better.
I use the magicsim ones.
they are cheaper than thet Simore ones (http://www.simore.ch/en/)
Would be interesting to see more responses!
Cheers,
B
My Simore X2 Gold does not work on my FUZE, flashed with ROMeOS 1.21
i have dual sim, but noname works fine..
Didn't these cards drain the battery?
they used to do it in the past, right?
so guys, are you satisfied with your dual sim cards? No battery isues?
Which one do you recommend for a Touch Pro? which gen?
BuDDaH what doyou recommend 16th Gen or 23rd Gen?
I've only found in ebay 16th & 20th, not 23rd.
Where can i find 23rd gen?, do you have a link?
thanks
I'd like to know as well...
RE
Hi!
Anyone knows where to buy the 23th-A Magicsim dual-sim card adaptor? Can provide a link?
Thanks
Hi all,..
I'm using a dual sim adaptor from multi-mobile.eu on my TP. The problem I have that when I switch from one sim to another, I cannot sent a SMS. "Phone is not ready" is the message. even when I wait for a long time. When I soft reset my device the problem is gone...
I also have certain connection problems. It seems that cutting the SIM card has given me a lower signal reception...
And using the auto switch option isn't so great. the auto switching will also take place when having a phone call, so the connection then is lost. Very anoying...
Regards,
A.
FOSA said:
Hi!
Anyone knows where to buy the 23th-A Magicsim dual-sim card adaptor? Can provide a link?
Thanks
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i'd like to know also...
would both SIMs be active or just one at a time?
sorry but i didn't use ony of those adaptors, but it seems interesting!!
Can anyone of Dual Sim card users tell us if there are draining issues with the batteries?
i've heard in the past about issues wth the bateries when using dual sim cards but it maybe was with older generations?
Can anybody confirm it?
please share your experiences with us.
thanks
Well...
The link to the store where I got my 23rd sim is http://www.dual-sim.nl/
Info on the Magic Sim's can be found here http://www.magicsim.com/
Got mine today and........ NO GO!! Read somewhere that this one should not drain your battery as much.
I also had a 3rd gen card laying around and that one works very well. NO stk or 007 mode but the phone power toggle.
Bit strange that I can't seem to get the 16th gen working anymore.
Updated my radio to 1.02.25.28.
forgot who asked but you can't have 2 sim cards active at the same time.
I just forward the calls from 1 number to the other using a short dial assignment.
Edit:
http://www.dual-sim-adapter.com/era_en.html
Premium version:
- No impact on battery power
lets keep sharing our findings!
thanks BuDDaH, thanks for the valuable Info you have provided us.
Only one thing, I guess that the Premium you have bought dual-sim-adapter.com is a "CUT" version, right?
Do you think is better Dual Sims "CUT" than Dual Sims "NO CUT" versions?
I know that the dual-sim-adapter.com "No CUT" version is only for GSM Networks, it doesn't support UMTS Networks so this would be a good reason to stay in the "CUT" side, right?
Instead, the MagicSim dual-sim.eu "NO CUT" says it works too in UMTS Networks. But the Magic-Sim says "No excessive energy use" instead dual-sim-adapter.com PREMIUM syas "No impact on battery power".
Links & Features:
dual-sim-adapter.com PREMIUM "CUT"
€18.99 / UMTS Compatible / "No impact on battery power"
http://www.dual-sim-adapter.com/era_en.html
dual-sim-adapter.com "NO CUT"
€14.99 / ONLY GSM / "No impact on battery power"
http://www.dual-sim-adapter.com/ghost_en.html
MagicSIM dual-sim.eu "NO CUT"
€19 / 3G-USIM Compatible / No excessive energy use.
http://www.dual-sim.eu/product_info.php/products_id/151
MagicSIM dual-sim.eu "CUT"
€18,95 / 3G-USIM Compatible / No excessive energy use.
http://www.dual-sim.eu/product_info.php/products_id/150
Well... actually I didn't buy the Premium one from http://www.dual-sim-adapter.com/era_en.html
just added that link because of the power drain question that someone posted earlier.
Strange thing is that I used the 16th gen for a while that worked fine but suddenly stopped working all together (after having experimented a bit with other ones).
Still works fine in a 'normal' gsm.
I have used the no cut versions in the past in other smartphones (magician I think and artemis) but that was a real hassle. no room! there were people peeling of parts of their battery to make room.....
Had 3 g working on the 16th gen cut without a problem (worked for about 3 days)
Now I'm back to my 3rd gen cut solution that's an 'analog' one. Powertoggle the phone and you're switched.
This one works perfectly with 3g and my usim.
Concerning the extra power.. over the weekend I might do a little test with the battery status app and see what the increased power drain is.
All in all I guess we found a nice little market niche!
A dual sim adapter that works in the Raphael... did a search on the forum yesterday and there are similar threads for a lot of other HTC devices.
I did invest in a sim card cutting tool. Since I'm using a company sim I didn't want to screw it up.
(and first did a test run with some pre paid sims).
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Hi BuDDaH
So it's confirmed that you can't have 2 Sims active at the same time i.e. no 2 antennas or 2 numbers shown?
Secondly, it's also true that if 'X' Sim is active and if you want to use 'Y' Sim then you need to do a soft reset. Does that mean to say you cannot receive call for 'Y' Sim if 'X' Sim is active? I thought the 2nd Sim is on standby and switchover use is by selecting it?
If the answers are 'Yes' then is there any software that allows auto-switchover without the need for a soft reset in order to active the second Sim?
Do you require to have a special battery cover or any modification done in order to accomodate the dual-sim adaptor?
Thanks
Along with all the questions asked by FOSA, can I also ask if any one knows a place in london who does them?
FOSA said:
Hi BuDDaH
So it's confirmed that you can't have 2 Sims active at the same time i.e. no 2 antennas or 2 numbers shown?
Secondly, it's also true that if 'X' Sim is active and if you want to use 'Y' Sim then you need to do a soft reset. Does that mean to say you cannot receive call for 'Y' Sim if 'X' Sim is active? I thought the 2nd Sim is on standby and switchover use is by selecting it?
If the answers are 'Yes' then is there any software that allows auto-switchover without the need for a soft reset in order to active the second Sim?
Do you require to have a special battery cover or any modification done in order to accomodate the dual-sim adaptor?
Thanks
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Hi!
It's not possible to have 2 sims active at the same time. You would need 2 GSM radio's on board and the Touch Pro just doesn't have that!
With the 'analog' dual sim card that I'm using at the moment you don't have to do a soft reset. Just toggle the gsm radio! I know that someone wrote a little utility to do this with just 1 click. Is on the forum somewhere.
If 'X' is active that means 'Y' is not active. you can't receive calls on this card BUT nothing is holding you back to forward calls from Y to X before toggling! that's what I'm doing.
with the 'CUT' cards you don't need modifications to battery or phone cover.
Read that the 'older' analog cards don't consume extra power.
The newer digital cards can switchover automatically, you don't have to toggle the GSM radio and you have an extra menu on your phone. But there are issues with the digital models and WM pda phones.
AND SINCE ALL THE NEW SIMS ARE DIGITAL, IT ONLY MEANS THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS THING WORKING... right???
Any more info on this???
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AND SINCE ALL THE NEW SIMS ARE DIGITAL, IT ONLY MEANS THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS THING WORKING... right???
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As far as I know sims have always been digital!
When talking about 'analog' with the dual sim adapters it's a reference to the switching technology used.
So..... I've got it working without problems. 3G / USIM works as well.
Pretty happy with it!
So I'm cheap. I do not want to pay an extra $30 for data on my fuze. Shortly after buying my fuze, I immediately called up AT&T and asked them to turn off data, because my phone was constantly trying to connect to 3g, and from previous experiences I know it will rack up my bill since I am without a data plan.
Anyway I've been searching around because data on this phone would be nice to have when I am outside of wifi. I noticed how at&t offered prepay data on select go phones for between $10-20 per month (Link http://www.phonenews.com/att-gophone-prepaid-adds-data-only-option-3381/. I thought sweet! But then what about voice and texting? I need voice and texting, and it would be nice to stay on my family's plan since I am not paying for it.
Then I started reading about dual sim's and dual sim adapters and thought what if I could have my current sim (unlim. voice, unlim. text, no data) and add in the 2nd sim card of one of those special prepay data phones and have my fuze run off of that for 3g data.
I have read with dual sim adapters it sounds like you have to switch between the 2 of them, so would that mean I could use only one at a time? Meaning if I am on the second data only sim, I could not receive texts or calls until I switch back to my main sim?
If this configuration could work simultaneously than it would be PERFECT. But if theres anyone out there with more insight, please let me know. Thanks
first of all. 3g is not only data. 3G is basically a faster connection (that also includes phone calls). [unless i'm wrong, this is how I understand 3g]
second. I don't think there is a dual sim adapter for the touch pro, but it also kind of makes the phone look horrible (assuming it's connected to some port since there is no room for another sim card).
Only specific phones can handle dual sims like KIRF iphone nano so it's not really worth it to save 10 bucks a month since you'll be spending money anyways, to get this adapter of yours.
I think there is finally a dual sim adapter for the touch pro...
Check this out:
http://www.simore.ch/en/two_sim_cards_in_one_mobile/dual_sim_card_gold_1.php
wow. That's kinda crazy to see that you have to cut up your sim card to fit it inside the dual sim adapter...
mike3000 said:
So I'm cheap. I do not want to pay an extra $30 for data on my fuze. Shortly after buying my fuze, I immediately called up AT&T and asked them to turn off data, because my phone was constantly trying to connect to 3g, and from previous experiences I know it will rack up my bill since I am without a data plan.
Anyway I've been searching around because data on this phone would be nice to have when I am outside of wifi. I noticed how at&t offered prepay data on select go phones for between $10-20 per month (Link http://www.phonenews.com/att-gophone-prepaid-adds-data-only-option-3381/. I thought sweet! But then what about voice and texting? I need voice and texting, and it would be nice to stay on my family's plan since I am not paying for it.
Then I started reading about dual sim's and dual sim adapters and thought what if I could have my current sim (unlim. voice, unlim. text, no data) and add in the 2nd sim card of one of those special prepay data phones and have my fuze run off of that for 3g data.
I have read with dual sim adapters it sounds like you have to switch between the 2 of them, so would that mean I could use only one at a time? Meaning if I am on the second data only sim, I could not receive texts or calls until I switch back to my main sim?
If this configuration could work simultaneously than it would be PERFECT. But if theres anyone out there with more insight, please let me know. Thanks
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Interesting thought. Bad news is they won't work simultaneously - however you can have the autoswitch every hour or so if you wanted.
Personally I'm not sure its really worth the effort. First off, you have to buy the adapter - which is going to cost you close to 100 bucks, then you'll need the gophone and it's sim-chip and the monthy prepay on that. By the time you add all this up you might as well just blow the 30 bucks on a data plan and save yourself the headace.
However the ability to now have dual sims in the FUZE is great. I suppose if you traveled a lot it could prove quite handy.
Hi guys, I'm having some problems with Myn's Warm Donut.
In overall, the phone works great and performs much better than Windows Mobile. But I've been getting some problems with the reception, here's a short story to what happened;
I have two phones dedicated for work and personal, one being my Polaris and the other an old phone. The old phone's SIM card runs solely on 2G network, while the Polaris is fitted with a 3G SIM.
So recently the calls required on my old phone went up, to an extent that I dropped the phone into a bucket of water. So I had to make a call at that point of time, and I've transferred the 2G SIM into the phone and made a call.
The first call was fine, but later on, it automatically disconnects and claims that it's not on a registered network in Android. Several 2G SIMs came back with the same results, but all 3G SIMs I've tested were working fine and never had a network hiccup.
I don't want to merge my contacts onto one number due to my work nature, is there a way to address this issue?
Hi
I have been searching alot about this topic, and all that i gathered is that the oneplus 6 is dual standby phone. This means that when on a call on SIM 1, then you are unreachable on SIM 2. I'm not talking about volte, but on GSM.
Also this means when I'm on a call on any SIM, the data shuts off unless I'm in area with duplex gsm channel then data drops back to H. (As per my friend who works in the teleco company here, cuz sometimes and in some areas when I'm on a call, the data doesn't drop back to H but rather completely shuts and in some areas and some times it drops back to H)
As per my reading, this happens because the oneplus 6 utilises the x16 chip which has a single antenna.
Here is where my confusion, i tried an out going call from SIM 1, put the call on hold, dial another number on SIM 2, conference the calls, Viola, it works. This means that i can use both SIMs actively.
Please someone shed some more light on this.
Note, I'm using 2 separate SIMs but from the same operator.
Also, im on the Android p beta 1 rom but have been able to do this on the previous OTAs also.
Cheers
Op6 is dual standby not dual active that means when you call from sim 1 sim 2 is inactive and vice versa.
I don't know which phone support dual active.
vikasb32 said:
Op6 is dual standby not dual active that means when you call from sim 1 sim 2 is inactive and vice versa.
I don't know which phone support dual active.
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Try calling from SIM 1, hold the call, dial another number from SIM 2, conference the calls, you will see that the conference works, here is where i get confused because everyone says it's dual standby, so conferencing the calls shouldn't work
hubono said:
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Try calling from SIM 1, hold the call, dial another number from SIM 2, conference the calls, you will see that the conference works, here is where i get confused because everyone says it's dual standby, so conferencing the calls shouldn't work
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I think i figured out what's going on, when placing the second call, although I'm telling the phone to dial from SIM 2 it dials from SIM 1. so both calls are originating from SIM 1.
Cheers
hubono said:
I think i figured out what's going on, when placing the second call, although I'm telling the phone to dial from SIM 2 it dials from SIM 1. so both calls are originating from SIM 1.
Cheers
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Def possible.
If I'm on a call on the first SIM, I can't even send a text message out on the 2nd.