Hey guys,
I'm currently working on a mod to enable longer shutter speeds than 1/4.
So far I've been able to enable the options till 16s, but when i capture the photo, it just has a max shutter speed of 1s in stock camera.
I'm using the files from this thread as a reference.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....ong-exposure-redmi-note-4-redmi-t3657343/amp/
If anyone has any prior knowledge in this topic, please do guide me. As I'm still new to this stuff.
Thank you
Update :
Tried a few changes, broke the camera, but manual mode worked and 16s exposure started, but crashed after 5s.
Trying again.
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On which camera sensor module are you working ? Because the Indian RN5P variant has Sony IMX486 Sensor, which (supposedly) supports slower Shutter speeds, while the global/chinese RN5 AI variant has Samsung S5K2L7 Sensor, which has some limitations for slower shutter speeds.
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On which camera sensor module are you working ? Because the Indian RN5P variant has Sony IMX486 Sensor, which (supposedly) supports slower Shutter speeds, while the global/chinese RN5 AI variant has Samsung S5K2L7 Sensor, which has some limitations for slower shutter speeds.
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I have the Indian Variant, So IMX486..
more specifically the libmmcamera_whyred_imx486_ofilm_global_i.so file from /vendor/lib/
but I noticed that there is another file libmmcamera_whyred_imx486_ofilm_global_i_eeprom.so, which is really weird.
and Apparently Mi A2 also has IMX 486 which has support upto 32s
Any update on the progress so far ?
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Any update on the progress so far ?
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Really hard to learn and do this on my own.
So far,I've enabled the options upto 16s, but max shutterspeed is now 1s instead of 1/4s haha. So there's some progress, i guess
piyush95 said:
Really hard to learn and do this on my own.
So far,I've enabled the options upto 16s, but max shutterspeed is now 1s instead of 1/4s haha. So there's some progress, i guess
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If possible, you may try experimenting by using camera libs from MI A2, because it has the same IMX486 sensor which is used in our Indian RN5 Pro. You may also contact me for testing purpose. I'll be happy to help you.
Shaurya117 said:
If possible, you may try experimenting by using camera libs from MI A2, because it has the same IMX486 sensor which is used in our Indian RN5 Pro. You may also contact me for testing purpose. I'll be happy to help you.
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Thanks! Will do! Right now I'm using libs from Redmi Note 7, as that uses the same sensor.
Will do so ! Thanks
Good luck dude! I wish I could be of some help to you
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Thanks! Will do! Right now I'm using libs from Redmi Note 7, as that uses the same sensor.
Will do so ! Thanks
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Whoops, I believe RN7 uses different sensor. The image quality of RN5 Pro is way better than RN7. So most probably the sensor is different. You may try experimenting with libs from MI A2
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Thanks! Will do! Right now I'm using libs from Redmi Note 7, as that uses the same sensor.
Will do so ! Thanks
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Mate, RN7 uses Samsung ISOCELL GM1 sensor and the RN7P uses the IMX 586 sensor.
coolakshansh said:
Mate, RN7 uses Samsung ISOCELL GM1 sensor and the RN7P uses the IMX 586 sensor.
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Whoops, I believe RN7 uses different sensor. The image quality of RN5 Pro is way better than RN7. So most probably the sensor is different. You may try experimenting with libs from MI A2
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Umm, my mom has the Redmi Note 7 and as you can see in the screen shot, it uses imx 486... And I'm also trying with Mi A2..so chill guys haha.
piyush95 said:
Umm, my mom has the Redmi Note 7 and as you can see in the screen shot, it uses imx 486... And I'm also trying with Mi A2..so chill guys haha.
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Sorry bro, apparently, Indian Redmi Note 7 has the IMX486 in it.
Also, OP, can't we just use any other pro camera app like Camera FV-5 or Open Camera to capture long exposures?
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Sorry bro, apparently, Indian Redmi Note 7 has the IMX486 in it.
Also, OP, can't we just use any other pro camera app like Camera FV-5 or Open Camera to capture long exposures?
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I'm the OP haha ..
And no we cant, Because those are just gimmicks and not the real deal..
What (I think )it does is ... It captures a 1080p video in 30 fps and stacks those 30 frames with each other to create a "long exposure"
Thats why when you check the picture resolution afterwards, its only 2MP ie 1920x1080.
More capable hardware can shoot 4k videos and do this, giving you 8MP shots ( This is what Slow Shutter App does for older iPhones)
But why stop at 2 or 8MP when you can get more light and more resolution by enabling actual long exposures
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I'm the OP haha ..
And no we cant, Because those are just gimmicks and not the real deal..
What (I think )it does is ... It captures a 1080p video in 30 fps and stacks those 30 frames with each other to create a "long exposure"
Thats why when you check the picture resolution afterwards, its only 2MP ie 1920x1080.
More capable hardware can shoot 4k videos and do this, giving you 8MP shots ( This is what Slow Shutter App does for older iPhones)
But why stop at 2 or 8MP when you can get more light and more resolution by enabling actual long exposures
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You know it's frustrating when Xiaomi uses really capable hardware but limits it with ****ty software and blobs.
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You know it's frustrating when Xiaomi uses really capable hardware but limits it with ****ty software and blobs.
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I know!! Have experienced it with Sony and now Redmi. This is so sad!
Hi, I know the only way to improve max exposure time is modify i2c regs which in camera lib. But I don't know how to modify, there are all hex. But someone did it before, the bug is, exposure time fixed at about 8s
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Hi, I know the only way to improve max exposure time is modify i2c regs which in camera lib. But I don't know how to modify, there are all hex. But someone did it before, the bug is, exposure time fixed at about 8s
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As these libs are c++ shared objects, I've used the ndk toolchains to disassemble the files. Now I've got a bunch of arm assembly codes. The link I've mentioned in the OP. That guy has made 3 mods 8,16 and 32s.
So I was comparing the changes he made.
Do you have any experience with assembly programming?
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As these libs are c++ shared objects, I've used the ndk toolchains to disassemble the files. Now I've got a bunch of arm assembly codes. The link I've mentioned in the OP. That guy has made 3 mods 8,16 and 32s.
So I was comparing the changes he made.
Do you have any experience with assembly programming?
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These subs are used for calculate gains and not the registers. We can only edit registers in hex way to modify exposure time.
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These subs are used for calculate gains and not the registers. We can only edit registers in hex way to modify exposure time.
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No no , I meant I tried to disassemble them to make sense of what it does/means . I edit and modify them in hex view only though.
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Hi all i am posting this issue to know whether others are facing this or not. Switching to portrait mode zooms the image making it difficult to get portrait from normal distance. Faced it with mix 2s as well. none of the other devices have this issue including poco f1, op6t, redmi note 5 pro. on my mix 2s, when i tried gcam, it was clicking much better pictures, especially in portrait mode. seems portrit mode uses the telephoto to click the image instead of using the main camera.
This is normal, telephoto is used for portrait shots. I recommend moving away from your subject when taking photos as portraits taken with a wide angle lens will distort your subject.
hmm.. waiting for gcam mod now. portrait as of now sucks.. the implementation is too poor.. wondering how the dxomark points were achieved.
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hmm.. waiting for gcam mod now. portrait as of now sucks.. the implementation is too poor.. wondering how the dxomark points were achieved.
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Actually you can use the mi8 version
Works great
billamin said:
hmm.. waiting for gcam mod now. portrait as of now sucks.. the implementation is too poor.. wondering how the dxomark points were achieved.
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How stupid are you? That's the standard implementation(Not meaning it's necessarily better, although longer focal lengths are preferred for portraits.), the manufacturers not using a second camera with a longer equivalent focal length are the contrarians.
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How stupid are you? That's the standard implementation(Not meaning it's necessarily better, although longer focal lengths are preferred for portraits.), the manufacturers not using a second camera with a longer equivalent focal length are the contrarians.
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if i have raised this issue, i have some background to it. pls keep shaming to yourself. just like you said that this implementation might not be better, we can have an option to choose which camera to use for portraits. stupidity is turning blind eye to a genuine issue when it can be easily fixed.
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if i have raised this issue, i have some background to it. pls keep shaming to yourself. just like you said that this implementation might not be better, we can have an option to choose which camera to use for portraits. stupidity is turning blind eye to a genuine issue when it can be easily fixed.
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Actual mental impairment, right here.
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Actually you can use the mi8 version
Works great
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thanks this helps a lot.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi 9 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Took a photo in Pro mode with telephoto zoom and it turned out well! It isn't even 48mp here
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love the chester pictures- any chance of posting more pictures. i think i have found my next phone.
QUOTE Took a photo in Pro mode with telephoto zoom and it turned out well! It isn't even 48mp here
Nice, France
Good light conditions.
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Nice, France
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It looks pretty noisy. I assume it is already scaled down?
What were the settings?
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It looks pretty noisy. I assume it is already scaled down?
What were the settings?
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Yeah a bit of noise on that one. Just default settings/auto, with HDR I think on that one. Gcam port should really unlock the potential of this hardware.
I am really liking the cam so far though...
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Yeah a bit of noise on that one. Just default settings/auto, with HDR I think on that one. Gcam port should really unlock the potential of this hardware.
I am really liking the cam so far though...
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Can you post the original size file ?
Curious to see it, as the people on the bench (lower left) look soft on the focus ....
I made a comparison between Huawei Mate 20 Pro and Xiaomi Mi 9.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ecGsAyjPUKVQ7adX9
I'll gradually add more photos.
See the watermark to differentiate the phones.
Images without watermark were captured with the Google Pixel Port (in the dark with Nightsight)
Images were captured via point and shoot, both "AI" Features are enabled. Google Pixel with HDR+
Mate 20 superior in dark but that's no surprise. Solid cam on Mi9 nevertheless.
Im not very satisfied with the camera quality. It seems like that the mi9 is doing worse compared to what I was used from my Galaxy S7 or even with my Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s. Here a few pictures from yesterday. At some point the software seems to do to much magic and kills the quality. Plus, the software seems to be unstable and the camera crashed two times while taking pictures and was not able to connect again to the camera -> reboot / kill camera app and start it again.
All done with HDR Auto and AI on.
https://i.postimg.cc/k4WnVH3p/IMG-20190309-100054.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/9XtmCsB4/IMG-20190309-101147.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Z5gZwmJQ/IMG-20190309-101815.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/c4xsHTDF/IMG-20190309-102122.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/RZq41hxf/IMG-20190309-104657.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/MGQw4LTp/IMG-20190309-112255.jpg
Same images as above but for what ever reason the preview does not work
WOW ! zooming into the originals and they look CRAP ! over use of oil painting effect....
I hear you - Im looking to upgrade from a S7 and picture quality is high on my list... that is not acceptable !
Are you using AI mode or other filtering options?
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WOW ! zooming into the originals and they look CRAP ! over use of oil painting effect....
I hear you - Im looking to upgrade from a S7 and picture quality is high on my list... that is not acceptable !
Are you using AI mode or other filtering options?
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HDR was set to "Auto" and AI was "On". No (other) filtering was used and yes, this oil painting wheen zooming in is insane. I really hope that this is just a bug and Xiomi will fix it soon, since even the Mi Mix 2s have not had that bad image quality.
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HDR was set to "Auto" and AI was "On". No (other) filtering was used and yes, this oil painting wheen zooming in is insane. I really hope that this is just a bug and Xiomi will fix it soon, since even the Mi Mix 2s have not had that bad image quality.
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Try turning AI off - i hear that messes up the end result worse then making it better
But agree - shouldn't need to turn off a feature that other manufactures dont have issues with ...
could someone install gcam and take some images on the mi9 with that?
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WOW ! zooming into the originals and they look CRAP ! over use of oil painting effect....
I hear you - Im looking to upgrade from a S7 and picture quality is high on my list... that is not acceptable !
Are you using AI mode or other filtering options?
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I have minimized this problem by changing the sharpless form the settings
Inviato dal mio MI 9 utilizzando Tapatalk
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auto / AI
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15XlkkmAXQRhsUyumqxdNDBEju3XZBj0r
HDR+ enhanced
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Great shots!
Is there any possibility to shoot RAW (DNG) photos from stock camera apk? Can anybody post RAW photo from every MI9 sensor? (especialy from 48mp)
why mi9 uses very high iso in low light?
for example when other phones settings is about 1/17sec and iso 2000, mi9 setting is about 1/14 and iso +7000 !
even redmi note 7 iso is much lower.
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why mi9 uses very high iso in low light?
for example when other phones settings is about 1/17sec and iso 2000, mi9 setting is about 1/14 and iso +7000 !
even redmi note 7 iso is much lower.
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Interesting I thought that Mi9 is increasing iso to achive lower exposure time beacuse of lack of OIS, but dunno why other phones has the same time and lower iso while having the same aperture (about f/1.7) maybe Mi9's f/1.75 is fake?
Did you compare same light conditions photos?
PS Could someone post RAW from Mi9?
On paper Realme 5 Pro has a great hardware profile, but in reality its camera app is super lame and pretty much useless.
1. First of all, the stock camera app does not allow us to shoot in the most popular 16:9 ratio. Even the so called "Expert mode" is stuck at 4:3 and there is no way to expertly change this. Are you kidding me??? What kind of an expert would shoot in 4:3 anyway??
2. Second, the camera app does not offer much of a choice between different resolutions. We are stuck with only three options - 48MP, 12MP and the super small (and thus completely useless) 2MP macro. And that's all, folks... Even my old 2014 phone offers a plethora of resolutions to choose from. Not Realme 5 Pro, though.
3. Third, the camera app does not offer electronic image stabilization (EIS) for 4K video. Again, it is almost year 2020 and 4K is THE standard these days. Not offering image stabilization for 4K is like not offering 4K at all. I know that the hardware allows it, so sit on your butts and release an update that offers EIS for 4K video!
4. Last, but not least - there are no Gcam or Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work without problems on Realme 5 Pro. So not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
So far Realme 5 Pro's camera app has been an enormous disappointment!
I really hope that the people form the software department of Realme would read this and would offer the necessary updates, so people would finally be able to make use of this phone's cameras. Owners should start sending them messages about all these issues.
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You can change to 16:9 in settings.
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You can change to 16:9 in settings.
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No, you cannot change to 16:9 in the settings.
You only have three options to choose from:
- 4:3
- 1:1
- Full screen (which is something like 19.5:9)
See the attached image below.
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On paper Realme 5 Pro has a great hardware profile, but in reality its camera app is super lame and pretty much useless.
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I think realme 5 pro, with gcam, is one the best camera you can have at its price range. Actually, forget about comparing it with the similarly priced phones. So go ahead, borrow your friend's galaxy s9 or s10 as I did, compare the result side by side on large pc monitor and tell me your finding.
1. First of all, the stock camera app does not allow us to shoot in the most popular 16:9 ratio. Even the so called "Expert mode" is stuck at 4:3 and there is no way to expertly change this. Are you kidding me??? What kind of an expert would shoot in 4:3 anyway??
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Almost all image sensor chip in modern smartphone like Sony IMX586 in realme 5 pro is 4:3 ratio. So is the sensor in mirrorless MFT camera. So 4:3 image will give you native and full resolution. Any other ratio like 16:9 is cropped out from 4:3 image, that means less area covered vertically and thus less mega pixel. You can always crop to 16:9 format in software.
2. Second, the camera app does not offer much of a choice between different resolutions. We are stuck with only three options - 48MP, 12MP and the super small (and thus completely useless) 2MP macro. And that's all, folks... Even my old 2014 phone offers a plethora of resolutions to choose from. Not Realme 5 Pro, though.
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Again, do a little research and you'll see much more expensive phones are 12 MP. Why would you want other resolution like 8 / 6 / 4 MP? To save space? Or higher than 12 MP like 16 or 24 MP for example? Why do you think the most expensive phones in the market capped at 12 MP? Hint: higher MP does not mean better picture.
3. Third, the camera app does not offer electronic image stabilization (EIS) for 4K video. Again, it is almost year 2020 and 4K is THE standard these days. Not offering image stabilization for 4K is like not offering 4K at all. I know that the hardware allows it, so sit on your butts and release an update that offers EIS for 4K video!
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Which other phones in the price range of realme 5 pro that do EIS in 4K? A little suggestion, get a gimbal like DJI Osmo mobile 3 that cost a little over USD 100 and get much better result.
4. Last, but not least - there are no Gcam or Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work without problems on Realme 5 Pro. So not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
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My gcam works fine here for photos. For video I use stock camera because it has EIS. If you mean the slow motion feature of gcam, look around and you'll see that feature doesn't work in other phones as well.
So far Realme 5 Pro's camera app has been an enormous disappointment!
I really hope that the people form the software department of Realme would read this and would offer the necessary updates, so people would finally be able to make use of this phone's cameras. Owners should start sending them messages about all these issues.
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You would have better luck doing that in realme official forum than here at xda.
Thank you for your reply, Gnusvol.
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I think realme 5 pro, with gcam, is one the best camera you can have at its price range.
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I totally disagree and you will find out why below.
Gnusvol said:
Actually, forget about comparing it with the similarly priced phones. So go ahead, borrow your friend's galaxy s9 or s10 as I did, compare the result side by side on large pc monitor and tell me your finding.
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My finding is TONS of very coarse noise in the shadows, mushy definition and blurred lines. This is what my finding is.
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Almost all image sensor chip in modern smartphone like Sony IMX586 in realme 5 pro is 4:3 ratio. So is the sensor in mirrorless MFT camera. So 4:3 image will give you native and full resolution. Any other ratio like 16:9 is cropped out from 4:3 image, that means less area covered vertically and thus less mega pixel. You can always crop to 16:9 format in software.
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I need in-camera 16:9, so I can do my frame compositing in the viewfinder, while I am shooting. I can't be bothered to crop 4:3 down to 16:9 in post production (which can lead to all sorts of trouble, like having to chop a subject's limb off). You need to know what the final result would be from the get go.
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Again, do a little research and you'll see much more expensive phones are 12 MP. Why would you want other resolution like 8 / 6 / 4 MP? To save space? Or higher than 12 MP like 16 or 24 MP for example? Why do you think the most expensive phones in the market capped at 12 MP? Hint: higher MP does not mean better picture.
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I know that higher Megapixels do not always equate to better quality picture. However, I shoot hundreds of photos daily and I need the smaller MP sizes to save memory and also to have faster speeds in post-processing (smaller photos load and render faster in PhotShop and LightRoom than 48MP or even 12MP photos). Having the option to choose from several file sizes is just good for general flexibility - and flexibility is a thing that is always nice to have.
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Which other phones in the price range of realme 5 pro that do EIS in 4K? A little suggestion, get a gimbal like DJI Osmo mobile 3 that cost a little over USD 100 and get much better result.
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I don't know which other phones do have EIS in 4K, I am a Realme 5 Pro owner and this is the only phone that I care about. And it so happens that this phone does not have EIS in 4K, which sucks.
If I wanted to carry a gimbal with me, I'd be better off carrying a bulky mirrorless camera with in-body-image-stabilization. A gimbal defies the purpose of shooting with a phone (which is the phone's pocket size, mobility and portability). Tripods, gimbals, steadicams, etc. are not needed and are a burden when you simply have EIS. So the guys from Realme should put their efforts in offering this option to the users.
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My gcam works fine here for photos. For video I use stock camera because it has EIS. If you mean the slow motion feature of gcam, look around and you'll see that feature doesn't work in other phones as well.
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Gcam doesn't work at all for video on my Realme 5 Pro. It crashes with slowmo, it does not offer EIS in 4K and it doesn't even offer 4K video recording. Also, the photo sizes can't be adjusted to my liking, just as with the stock camera app.
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Thank you for your reply, Gnusvol.
My finding is TONS of very coarse noise in the shadows, mushy definition and blurred lines. This is what my finding is.
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Which gcam variant are you talking about? I am using this one. It does 16:9 at 8.3 and 6 MP flawlessly and should address one of your concern.
I don't know which other phones do have EIS in 4K, I am a Realme 5 Pro owner and this is the only phone that I care about. And it so happens that this phone does not have EIS in 4K, which sucks.
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You said realme 5 pro is completely useless because of that one feature missing, and yet you can't, and will not, find any other phones that can do that. The title should be written like: "ALL phones that can't do EIS in 4K are completely useless". Good luck in finding the alternative, this year or even the next at this price range.
Gcam doesn't work at all for video on my Realme 5 Pro. It crashes with slowmo, it does not offer EIS and it doesn't even offer 4K video recording. Also, the photo sizes can't be adjusted to my liking, just as with the stock camera app.
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Video recording works fine with the version given above.
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Which gcam variant are you talking about? I am using this one. It does 16:9 at 8.3 and 6 MP flawlessly and should address one of your concern.
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I was using Gcam 7.2
Your older version of Gcam seems to offer 16:9 (which is nice!), however, there is still no way to shoot video in 4K with this version (see attached screenshot below). It only allows for 1080p, 720p and 480p - no 4K option to be seen on the horizon...
...and just because we can have 16:9 through older Google Camera versions, doesn't make Realme 5 Pro's stock camera app less useless. It is complete garbage and needs a ton of work before it can offer anything useful to the owners.
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You said realme 5 pro is completely useless because of that one feature missing, and yet you can't, and will not, find any other phones that can do that. The title should be written like: "ALL phones that can't do EIS in 4K are completely useless". Good luck in finding the alternative, this year or even the next at this price range.
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Phones with a Snapdragon processor (like Realme 5 Pro) are supposed to work in 4K with EIS, when using the Snapdragon Camera app. So, obviously the hardware allows it, and it is just a matter of writing the right software.
Unfortunately, like I said in my original post, there are no Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work on Realme 5 Pro. Or at least not yet. So, not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that good third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
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I was using Gcam 7.2
Your older version of Gcam seems to offer 16:9 (which is nice!), however, there is still no way to shoot video in 4K with this version (see attached screenshot below). It only allows for 1080p, 720p and 480p - no 4K option to be seen on the horizon...
...and just because we can have 16:9 through older Google Camera versions, doesn't make Realme 5 Pro's stock camera app less useless. It is complete garbage and needs a ton of work before it can offer anything useful to the owners.
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Complete garbage? Well, speak for yourself. I am the owner of this phone, and I think the stock camera is nice for shooting video in FHD 30 fps with EIS when I don't bring my dji gimbal. I don't shoot in 4K, only FHD. I'm sure the majority owner of realme 5 pro don't feel as strongly as you do about 4K video for a phone that cost only about USD 200-250 depending on the variant.
Phones with a Snapdragon processor (like Realme 5 Pro) are supposed to work in 4K with EIS, when using the Snapdragon Camera app. So, obviously the hardware allows it, and it is just a matter of writing the right software.
Unfortunately, like I said in my original post, there are no Sapdragon Camera app distributions that work on Realme 5 Pro. Or at least not yet. So, not only the stock camera app sucks, but on top of that good third party apps do not work properly with it as well.
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There are a lot of assumptions there. Name one phone with SD7xxx, SD6xx, or even the ones with SD8xx that can do EIS in 4K. Usually when a person says that the camera of phone A is "completely useless" or "complete garbage", he/she would ready to provide a proof that better phone B, C, or D do exist. And with that, I rest my case.
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Complete garbage? Well, speak for yourself. I am the owner of this phone, and I think the stock camera is nice for shooting video in FHD 30 fps with EIS when I don't bring my dji gimbal. I don't shoot in 4K, only FHD. I'm sure the majority owner of realme 5 pro don't feel as strongly as you do about 4K video for a phone that cost only about USD 200-250 depending on the variant.
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Are you telling me that the stock camera app is "nice" because users don't need to shoot 4K video anyway?
Are you telling me that just because YOU don't shoot in 4K, then everybody else shouldn't too?
Speak for yourself, buddy, because 4K is the new standard in video and if you are not shooting in 4K, you are just living in the past.
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There are a lot of assumptions there. Name one phone with SD7xxx, SD6xx, or even the ones with SD8xx that can do EIS in 4K. Usually when a person says that the camera of phone A is "completely useless" or "complete garbage", he/she would ready to provide a proof that better phone B, C, or D do exist. And with that, I rest my case.
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You want me to name one phone that has EIS in 4k?
OK, buddy, here you go: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro shoots 4K with EIS when using the Opencamera app.
And surprise, surprise, the Snapdragon CPU on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is an OLDER model than the one in Realme 5 Pro.
So, if a phone with an old Snapdragon 636 CPU and only 3 GB of RAM can shoot 4K with EIS, then why a phone with Snapdragon 712 woudn't???
The answer is: because the developers at Realme need to sit on their butts and start working on this major issue. Otherwise, Realme 5 Pro is just a total waste of decent hardware.
Your arguments just don't hold water, so instead of grasping at straws, go ahead and write a letter to Realme's developer team. Maybe if enough owners write them, they would listen and would do something about it.
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Are you telling me that the stock camera app is "nice" because users don't need to shoot 4K video anyway?
Are you telling me that just because YOU don't shoot in 4K, then everybody else shouldn't too?
Speak for yourself, buddy, because 4K is the new standard in video and if you are not shooting in 4K, you are just living in the past.
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I don't tell you to do anything, do what you please. Sell it if you have to and see if I care one bit.
You want me to name one phone that has EIS in 4k?
OK, buddy, here you go: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro shoots 4K with EIS when using the Opencamera app.
And surprise, surprise, the Snapdragon CPU on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is an OLDER model than the one in Realme 5 Pro.
So, if a phone with an old Snapdragon 636 CPU and only 3 GB of RAM can shoot 4K with EIS, then why a phone with Snapdragon 712 woudn't???
The answer is: because the developers at Realme need to sit on their butts and start working on this major issue. Otherwise, Realme 5 Pro is just a total waste of decent hardware.
Your arguments just don't hold water, so instead of grasping at straws, go ahead and write a letter to Realme's developer team. Maybe if enough owners write them, they would listen and would do something about it.
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Is that the best you can do, giving a link to a thread that none has participated, with "reserved for video samples" post that has not been updated since last march? The OP even said: "the stabilization is not as great compared to fullHD stabilization".
It seems that you have found your solution already. Trade your realme for redmi note 5 pro. Enjoy.
The problem I found is that recording in 1080/60 fps is very laggy and not smooth. In Realme 3 60fps is ultra smooth
Madhuvrata said:
The problem I found is that recording in 1080/60 fps is very laggy and not smooth. In Realme 3 60fps is ultra smooth
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Interesting, thnaks for pointing this problem out.
I haven't tested the 1080p yet. Been trying to find a solution for the lack of EIS in 4K only, but I would not be surprised if there is a problem with 1080p too.
Videos are also undersaturated. In photo you can boost colors but not in video.
Now, for me the camera was the main reason to buy this phone. I record video lectures and video recording is very important for me, especially 1080/60fps (maybe sd712 supports also 4k60fps?), EIS and all this stuff. I compared this camera to camera from Realme 3 pro and recordings and photos made with r3pro are nicely saturated and 60 fps is super smooth. I had also impression that in 1080/30fps with EIS Realme 3 pro was doing better job in terms of smoothness. Definitely our hardware has potential but seems that software is messed up. Only hope is that Realme will do something with that. But we have to make them somehow aware of the problem.
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Videos are also undersaturated. In photo you can boost colors but not in video.
Now, for me the camera was the main reason to buy this phone. I record video lectures and video recording is very important for me, especially 1080/60fps (maybe sd712 supports also 4k60fps?), EIS and all this stuff. I compared this camera to camera from Realme 3 pro and recordings and photos made with r3pro are nicely saturated and 60 fps is super smooth. I had also impression that in 1080/30fps with EIS Realme 3 pro was doing better job in terms of smoothness. Definitely our hardware has potential but seems that software is messed up. Only hope is that Realme will do something with that. But we have to make them somehow aware of the problem.
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Same here. I bought this phone mainly because of its cameras and also because the hardware specs looked great on paper.
However, the camera software that came with the phone turned out to be a pile of horse manure. This Realme 5 Pro deal is like having a Ferrari and not being able to drive it faster than 10 mph.
Let's start sending mails to Realme's development team and see if they would care to do something about it.
ColorOS 7 is coming to our device in February, going to be (suppose to be) major update, hopefully they will fix it in this update. Is there any plan for December or January update?
you guys should try cinema 4k camera app i tried it on my friend redmi note 7.
it was awesome it can record 4k videos @30fps with eis very smooth.
but my realme x2 cant i have been trying to root it so to know if i can get eis in third party camera like GCAM,filmic pro and cinema 4k
I'm getting 5-6 second freezes in slow motion 240 fps!!! On stock ROM. 120 is slightly better but... This if pathetic
Somehow i feel from this thread that flagship output is being expected from a mid-ranger.
Expectations from the device should be realistic and not wish based.
mandhir.s.bajwa said:
Somehow i feel from this thread that flagship output is being expected from a mid-ranger.
Expectations from the device should be realistic and not wish based.
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The reality is that Redmi 5 pro (Snapdragon 636) can pull smooth 1080/60 fps recording and 4k with EIS. Realme 5 pro cannot. And our wishes are based on the fact that in our device seats Snapdragon 712 and high-end optics (same like in OnePlus 7t). This are realistic, common sense expectations
mandhir.s.bajwa said:
Somehow i feel from this thread that flagship output is being expected from a mid-ranger.
Expectations from the device should be realistic and not wish based.
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Devices with weaker processors can record 4K video with EIS. There is no reason why Realme 5 Pro should not be able to do the same.
R5P does have the necessary hardware power, it is a matter of writing the right software. Hope the developers at Realme would do something about it.
So, Qualcomm said that Snapdragon 845 to 865 is capable to record HDR/HDR10/HDR10+/DOLBY VISION videos, our phone have the last and more powerful one.
The question is, we have this feature or not? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the system or camera app, the only mention to hdr is in the specsheet from oficial site.
The last samsung phones from s9 up have this, so processing power is not the factor.
If it can't do this is a hardware limitation or xiaomi reserved it for the ultra high priced flagships?
Maybe someone can figure it out.
This is the official video from Qualcomm, they said is recorded with S10s and N10s.
Researched a little more and find that SD865 can do other dozen of things that we dont have, like 4K 120fps record, 720p 960fps without limit and more... So, software limitation? Hardware? Poco forced by xiaomi limitation?
I am looking for the same. The dynamic range is too low in the stock camera, I want more than one frame to be taken and combined in the video to obtain a better dynamic range. The Snapdragon 865 is capable of doing that and I can't find a way to do it. I also remember seeing it in a Galaxy S9 +, it seems that Xiaomi limits us functions to give them to superior phones (Mi 10 Ultra i think?). I have not tried the ANX camera yet.
EDIT: Mi 10 ultra has "Dual ISO Fusion Super Dynamic technology", basically HDR recording.
There are some mods to enable hdr10 in miui like this but these mods are very old. I don't want or need the hdr10+, I'm just looking for Dual ISO recording, just like the mi 10 ultra.
TinoSantos said:
I am looking for the same. The dynamic range is too low in the stock camera, I want more than one frame to be taken and combined in the video to obtain a better dynamic range. The Snapdragon 865 is capable of doing that and I can't find a way to do it. I also remember seeing it in a Galaxy S9 +, it seems that Xiaomi limits us functions to give them to superior phones (Mi 10 Ultra i think?). I have not tried the ANX camera yet.
EDIT: Mi 10 ultra has "Dual ISO Fusion Super Dynamic technology", basically HDR recording.
There are some mods to enable hdr10 in miui like this but these mods are very old. I don't want or need the hdr10+, I'm just looking for Dual ISO recording, just like the mi 10 ultra.
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Some users said that IS the camera module/sensor that don't support so high Bandwidth, something with dram. They say that the camera module almost fryes when recording 8k vídeo...
But i don't think that It can handle 8k30 but not 1080pHDR or 720p960fps more than 1-2 seconds....
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Some users said that IS the camera module/sensor that don't support so high Bandwidth, something with dram. They say that the camera module almost fryes when recording 8k vídeo...
But i don't think that It can handle 8k30 but not 1080pHDR or 720p960fps more than 1-2 seconds....
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So the IMX586 sensor can and the version that supposedly followed it, the IMX686 can't? They could also have implemented it by software, making it shoot at 1080p 120 and interleave frames with different iso to form an hdr image at 1080p 30.
I think that Xiaomi's problem is that they have so many devices that they don't have time to develop each one well. (G translate)
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So the IMX586 sensor can and the version that supposedly followed it, the IMX686 can't? They could also have implemented it by software, making it shoot at 1080p 120 and interleave frames with different iso to form an hdr image at 1080p 30.
I think that Xiaomi's problem is that they have so many devices that they don't have time to develop each one well. (G translate)
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The imx586 can do hdr video? Which phone?
Maybe is software limitation by xiaomi to try sell their high end phones (mi10/pro/ultra)
Tino are you BR as well?
pocof2 can record hdr10 also with eis enabled. from 1080p-8k. but not with stock camera.
to get it working you must use the hvec codec("omx.qcom.video.encoder.hvec")
profile level: "hvec profile main10 hdr10 hvechightierlevel6"
then you can set the key org.quic.camera2.streamconfigs.HDRVideoMode to 1 for hlg or 2 for pq.
after that the poco records 10 bit.
I always used Gcam for photography and videos because it enhances photos and stabilize videos but the most important feature for me was recording 4K videos at 60 fps, originally the MIUI cam can't record at that fps but somehow
Gor the Gcam it's possible. Today i just switched to a custom ROM wich is Corvus OS, i installed Gcam but i was surprised it can't record at 60 fps cuz it's showing error.
It's 89% something related to software a.k.a the custom rom, becs when i switch to the stock rom, the [email protected] is working perfectly.
Anyone has an idea about this, is it possible to enable 4K @60fps without switching to Stock ROM ?
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I always used Gcam for photography and videos because it enhances photos and stabilize videos but the most important feature for me was recording 4K videos at 60 fps, originally the MIUI cam can't record at that fps but somehow
Gor the Gcam it's possible. Today i just switched to a custom ROM wich is Corvus OS, i installed Gcam but i was surprised it can't record at 60 fps cuz it's showing error.
It's 89% something related to software a.k.a the custom rom, becs when i switch to the stock rom, the [email protected] is working perfectly.
Anyone has an idea about this, is it possible to enable 4K @60fps without switching to Stock ROM ?
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It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
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It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
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So how tf i was able to record at 60fps on 4K when I was on MIUI ?
And i even did a fps meter test ro check and it was between 58_59 fps
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It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
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Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
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Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
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4K and 60 FPS works in GCam in Custom ROMs.
ArrowOS 20210601, Aspen GCam 8.1.200
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4K and 60 FPS works in GCam in Custom ROMs.
ArrowOS 20210601, Aspen GCam 8.1.200
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Have you verified with MediaInfo that it's 60fps? Because I can select that too but it still outputs 4k 30fps.
psychorat said:
Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
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In the time of the posting I thought like that, but still, POCO F3 with IMX582 can record 4k 60fps with Gcam, but it has some micro stuttering. Which also could mean that sensor is not fully capable of it. It can be the same case here.
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Have you verified with MediaInfo that it's 60fps? Because I can select that too but it still outputs 4k 30fps.
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You are absolutely right, sorry.
Recording doesn't start when I select 4K and 60 FPS
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In the time of the posting I thought like that, but still, POCO F3 with IMX582 can record 4k 60fps, but it has some micro stuttering. Which also could mean that sensor is not fully capable of it. It can be the same case here.
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So i guess it kinda works if your SOC is able to handle 4k60
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So i guess it kinda works if your SOC is able to handle 4k60
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S870 can handle it, so it's not because of that. Camera sensor probably misses the buffer power to deliver 100% smooth 4k 60fps. But it's better still than 30fps.
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S870 can handle it, so it's not because of that. Camera sensor probably misses the buffer power to deliver 100% smooth 4k 60fps. But it's better still than 30fps.
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Yes i mean it works with some dropped frames but you also need a SOC that can do it. I have seen that Poco X3 Pro can do it but on Poco X3 with 732G it seems a no go because of the SOC limitation.
Sorry for my bad English.