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[Q] AL-00 Chinese model [GMS & Latest firmware]

Ok... It might be repetitive, I come from the LG / Sammy world, so I am new to the Huawei universe...
I've been reading through a lot of threads, like a lot hahaha, I just want to get one last confirmation before I order it (still not sure if I'm gonna get the L29 or L00, although the 6gb/128 is really interesting to me) .
I know people like @duraaraa are working hard to get us something rolling! And thanks for that! I know some other devs (from other phones) are wanting to jump into this pool, so this could become and interesting devs device in the very close future.
But I have some questions, or more like confirmations to ask:
Huawei now really "unofficially" released the GMS for the Chinese / Hong-Kong version of the m9 (4gb/32, 4gb/64, 6gb/128 and 6gb/256). For the users on the AL00, can you please confirm the following :
- you have a 100% English rom or other mulingual possibility (meaning no trace of Chinese writing or other, except maybe some Chinese apps)
- Google playstore, all apps are installable (swiftkey, nova launcher, etc..) and are working 100%
- push services (Gmail, exchange, etc..) are working 100%
- auto sync services (Dropbox, Google photos, etc...) are syncing with no issues
- that you are on the latest firmware and you think now that updates will bring no issues in the future
- do you really see a big difference with the extra 2gb of Ram or is it placebo
- if you do have issues, please tell me
- last but not least :which of the 2 you think will have more development? AL 29 or AL 00

- you have a 100% English rom or other mulingual possibility (meaning no trace of Chinese writing or other, except maybe some Chinese apps)
Yes. No Chinese writing except in Chinese apps.
- Google playstore, all apps are installable (swiftkey, nova launcher, etc..) and are working 100%
I don't have nova launcher, but swiftkey works. Everything is installable.
- push services (Gmail, exchange, etc..) are working 100%
Yes.
- auto sync services (Dropbox, Google photos, etc...) are syncing with no issues
Yes.
- that you are on the latest firmware and you think now that updates will bring no issues in the future
Yes, but without unlocking the bootloader you will only be able to install updates that Huawei wants you to install. Ergo, no betas.
- do you really see a big difference with the extra 2gb of Ram or is it placebo
How would I know? I only have 6GB version. It probably only matters if you use all the RAM.
- if you do have issues, please tell me
Screen touch responsiveness is not as good as other phones. Huawei has been adjusting it a lot from build to build. Hopefully they get it right soon.
- last but not least :which of the 2 you think will have more development? AL 29 or AL 00
With an unlocked bootloader, development will be the same for both. With locked bootloader, you currently have more options with AL00, because that's what I have so that's what I'm working with, and because Huawei has several versions of firmware which can be flashed to AL00, but only one which can be flashed to L29 at the moment. I think Huawei focuses mainly on China, so support of the Chinese phone will be better.

Well, thanks for that quick reply!

Can confirm all Duraaraa said. I got mine, had B109 with working g Google services and I uninstalled all the Google stuff, did OTA to B125. Then it offered B135 OTA so did that. After reboot I stalled GMS and Play store and all good. Had to install Google contacts from APK mirror, and had to go to permission manager and allow Google app as trusted and auto start to get OK Google functionality working but all good now.
Only issue I am having is a few apps won't install. For instance, the CBS watch TV app ... click on install from store and it starts download and the before it finishes store just closes. A couple games do this as well. Working on figuring it out.
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@SWBgHz hi, I think to solve your issue with CBS watch TV app go to the play store app permission and make sure Storage have that permission on.
I got mine last Friday nice phone, software is really bad.
After i got everything working on mine. now play store will not work ...keep downloading. i did try everything and still not working.
I have few apps needs update , it is just downloading
I can not get notification from any app
it seems that i will have to factory reset.
I think you guys should download HI suit for back up and restore .
waiting for a better Rom.
Edit: Play store start behave normal again and its working fine.
still can not see notification from my major apps like gmail...etc

I had already tried adding additional permissions as well as setting Play store as trusted app but no joy. Just a few apps do same as CBS on, store closes during download phase.
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SWBgHz said:
I had already tried adding additional permissions as well as setting Play store as trusted app but no joy. Just a few apps do same as CBS on, store closes during download phase.
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make sure Storage for Play store is checked, i just installed the CBS app no problem.

semsem1969 said:
make sure Storage for Play store is checked, i just installed the CBS app no problem.
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Sure enough, storage wasn't allowed. Odd thing is I checked that and allowed all manually, or thought I did.
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SWBgHz said:
Can confirm all Duraaraa said. I got mine, had B109 with working g Google services and I uninstalled all the Google stuff, did OTA to B125. Then it offered B135 OTA so did that. After reboot I stalled GMS and Play store and all good. Had to install Google contacts from APK mirror, and had to go to permission manager and allow Google app as trusted and auto start to get OK Google functionality working but all good now.
Only issue I am having is a few apps won't install. For instance, the CBS watch TV app ... click on install from store and it starts download and the before it finishes store just closes. A couple games do this as well. Working on figuring it out.
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Make sure that Play Store has Storage permissions. That should fix your problem.
Edit: Oops, late reply

Abject lesson in checking things twice. I swear I did add permissions but such is life. Doh!
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How do you install the Google play store on the China version Miui 10???

Any know how on this Mi Mix 3? Googled but no answers for this phone. Thanks

never tried but sounds like you can just download the google play store apk and sideload it just like any other app.

I appreciate your answer but I think it's more than that.

stu5797 said:
I appreciate your answer but I think it's more than that.
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You can really just sideload the google play store APK honestly. Not sure if it also requires Google Play Services however, you may need that as well.
There is a tutorial on miui.com, but as usual its a mess but it should get you started: http://en.miui.com/thread-2326998-1-1.html
(Its for the MIX 2S, but it works for every xiaomi phone on China rom)

On previous xiaomi phones Chinese versions I had I downloaded a Google installer from the Mi app store which would install Play services and Play store. However there were also some additional adjustments required to get everything to sync, like downloading a specific contact and calendar sync app.
You typically never get rid of all the Chinese apps and language but it is usable until you can flash.
Look forward to hearing how you get on when yours arrives. I am waiting to see before pulling the trigger..

Just istall using Mi store or using Google Installer version 3.0 or 2.0

stu5797 said:
Any know how on this Mi Mix 3? Googled but no answers for this phone. Thanks
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People said this machine likes the Mix2s which contains the framework itself. You can just download and sideload the apk found in the apkmirror.

I just installed to Google play store from apk mirror. Only issue I had be so far is contact sync with Google. But I just used the mi sync instead from my mi mix 2

woodyp said:
I just installed to Google play store from apk mirror. Only issue I had be so far is contact sync with Google. But I just used the mi sync instead from my mi mix 2
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goto setting, installed app, find google contacts sync, allow those permissions then you should be fine, if not just try to reset it. my mix3 works fine with this moves.

Leies said:
goto setting, installed app, find google contacts sync, allow those permissions then you should be fine, if not just try to reset it. my mix3 works fine with this moves.
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Thanks...that worked!

woodyp said:
Thanks...that worked!
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That in my eyes deserves a click on the thumb under his reply

Sorry it didn't work for me..
So let me get it right, these are the steps
1. Go settings > installed apps > "Google contact sync"
(not "Contacts")
2. Allow permission for all items
3. Restart phone.
Correct?

aliguu said:
Sorry it didn't work for me..
So let me get it right, these are the steps
1. Go settings > installed apps > "Google contact sync"
(not "Contacts")
2. Allow permission for all items
3. Restart phone.
Correct?
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Contact's sync and contacts, when you start contacts there is a setting at top of screen which for some reason I always miss

so basically, google play services, contact sync etc are all preinstalled, all one has to do is install Playstore APK? right?

Hello , i'm a french student (so the budget is low and i do not speak fluent english) and i really want the Mi Mix 3 but here's the problem :
As it is not the Global version of the Mi Mix, (and the later will come out with SoC 855 and 5G so the price will go up) i don't know if i should buy it now or wait for the Global version to come out
I understand english quite well in my opinion so there's no problem with the phone being in english but the thing that bothers me is that the current version do not hold Google Play right ?
So should i buy it now and do what as said in this thread or wait for the Global version ?
Sorry to bother you and thank you very much

It's pretty simple to get the Google apps running on the Chinese version, and if you're comfortable with unlocking the phone and flashing you can now easily install the xiaomi.eu rom, which although it's based on the official Chinese rom, already includes the Google apps and supports French as well as English. As you point out, the 5G version will likely cost more, and there's also no firm release date yet. Here's the link to the rom I mentioned: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-10-0-10-1-stable-release.47170/

invisiblewave said:
It's pretty simple to get the Google apps running on the Chinese version, and if you're comfortable with unlocking the phone and flashing you can now easily install the xiaomi.eu rom, which although it's based on the official Chinese rom, already includes the Google apps and supports French as well as English. As you point out, the 5G version will likely cost more, and there's also no firm release date yet. Here's the link to the rom I mentioned
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Damn you really are a lifesaver
Thank you so much for those information, i really didn't know what i sould do but now i know

im unable to install google play for mi store .there is a common error that this package cannot be installed .this there any other way to install play store on my device
**redmi 6 pro**[sakura]

What without Android?

Hello everyone, im interested on upcoming huawei mate 30 pro, but if cant use official Android, what will be happen, how we can use it without google Play

puchaa said:
Hello everyone, im interested on upcoming huawei mate 30 pro, but if cant use official Android, what will be happen, how we can use it without google Play
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They might find a way like making a new app store or using their appgallery.

puchaa said:
Hello everyone, im interested on upcoming huawei mate 30 pro, but if cant use official Android, what will be happen, how we can use it without google Play
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Or can we install the google play services and store by ourselves?

qianfor19 said:
Or can we install the google play services and store by ourselves?
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This exactly does not take much effort for most people here on XDA to install g services and store. I am getting myself a M30 Pro and will use it that way, idk about politic shhite.
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Mafiatounes said:
This exactly does not take much effort for most people here on XDA to install g services and store. I am getting myself a M30 Pro and will use it that way, idk about politic shhite.
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dont you think that google might block them from connecting to their servers etc so it might not be that possible after all

That's what I read, this phone will now able to connect to google calendar or google drive which rely on google service.
Of course, Huawei has Chinese apps alternative as what China people using in China.
mate 30 pro will have android 10 though
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Mafiatounes said:
This exactly does not take much effort for most people here on XDA to install g services and store. I am getting myself a M30 Pro and will use it that way, idk about politic shhite.
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I was planing to do the same since its quite easy to install both gplay services and gplay store , but the problem is the phone is not going to get any future android updates. whats going to happen when android 11 comes out.

Andoid is open source so i guess we will get updates, i am going to wait on Huawei to clarify a bit first

Android Open Source Project, AOSP is free to use for anybody. Huawei pay Google about 5$ per device and preinstall Google Apps and Services.
You will get a Huawei Mate 30 with Android 10, EMUI but without Google Play, Gmail, Youtube, etc.
It is Android, so you can install it and use it, like any other Android device. On Xiaomi Mi Store (chinese version) there is a Google Installer.

I understand Google Mobile Services is easy but how about Google Pay and over-riding thaty SafetyNet thing?
I remember there was this work around using MAGISK?? But do u have to root in order for it to work?

confirm can install
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=924951717867805

Mate 30 fingerprint is safety net compliant
Its fairly easy to install gapps on it
Most of New released models where already pre certified, as this happened before the ban..

Wanda Mobile, a reputable UK retailer, is now selling this phone "with Google Play Store installed".

Linuxkek said:
Android Open Source Project, AOSP is free to use for anybody. Huawei pay Google about 5$ per device and preinstall Google Apps and Services.
You will get a Huawei Mate 30 with Android 10, EMUI but without Google Play, Gmail, Youtube, etc.
It is Android, so you can install it and use it, like any other Android device. On Xiaomi Mi Store (chinese version) there is a Google Installer.
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It will work like any other Android phone except it does not have the licensed Google Mobile Service (GMS) built-in; there is an app that one can download to install the google framework that will install Google assistance which will allow Google Play Store to be installed in the phone. Because the phone does not have GMS so many apps in Google Play Store will not work. One will have to get from alternative source like APKmirror

Ok Guys. I have a M30 and it has not been easy to install GMS on it. As you know LZPlay app is dead. And installing framework, services and play Store is not working. I get force close after the install.
Any thoughts on this? (bootloader locked and unrooted)

superdragonpt said:
Mate 30 fingerprint is safety net compliant
Its fairly easy to install gapps on it
Most of New released models where already pre certified, as this happened before the ban..
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Hey, Boas Super Dragão!
Unfortunately it´s not been easy to install gapps since the LZPLay backdoor wich was using undocumentede APIS has been closed. I have a Mate 30 Pro with Bootloader unlocked and no root. I tried a bunch of suspicious GMS installers, and tried to intsall the services and framework manually with all the available permissions and the result is always the same. App force closes. Alguma ideia? Abraço

bonell said:
Ok Guys. I have a M30 and it has not been easy to install GMS on it. As you know LZPlay app is dead. And installing framework, services and play Store is not working. I get force close after the install.
Any thoughts on this? (bootloader locked and unrooted)
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Just presumed you are living in China. Shouldn't be hard, they can live without Google, FB, IG, whatsapp. So can you.

torickray said:
Just presumed you are living in China. Shouldn't be hard, they can live without Google, FB, IG, whatsapp. So can you.
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Congratulations on your opinion on what I can and cannot live without. But your reply is absolutely useless. Thanks for the spam

bonell said:
Ok Guys. I have a M30 and it has not been easy to install GMS on it. As you know LZPlay app is dead. And installing framework, services and play Store is not working. I get force close after the install.
Any thoughts on this? (bootloader locked and unrooted)
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You can use these alternatives (spanish) https://instatecno.com/no-uso-servicios-de-google-mi-experiencia/

juanro49 said:
You can use these alternatives (spanish) https://instatecno.com/no-uso-servicios-de-google-mi-experiencia/
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Gracias Juan. For now I am trying to actually install as much as possible of original Google Apps. But that article is very interesting and has some great alternatives.

Great NEWS! New Method Install GMS Mate 30 Pro

Hey Guys,
I have found a way to install GMS on Mate 30 Pro, (P40 PRO, P40 LITE, MATE XS).
I have written a full tutorial and have recorded a video with all the steps.
Basically, we restore a backup with LZPlay and icebox app. Freeze Google services framework via ADB with Icebox. And authenticate with an old Google account manager.
Please use the guide on this link and let me know if there are any troubles for you (It´s in Portugueses , please use Google translate) . I have tested it more than 10 times in several models to assure everything is OK.
I am available to answer any questions you may have. Here´s a video:
https://youtu.be/7sokNkSI8lA
If you want

bonell said:
Hey Guys,
I have found a way to install GMS on Mate 30 Pro, (P40 PRO, P40 LITE, MATE XS).
I have written a full tutorial and have recorded a video with all the steps.
Basically, we restore a backup with LZPlay and icebox app. Freeze Google services framework via ADB with Icebox. And authenticate with an old Google account manager.
Please use the guide on this link and let me know if there are any troubles for you (It´s in Portugueses , please use Google translate) . I have tested it more than 10 times in several models to assure everything is OK.
I am available to answer any questions you may have. Here´s a video:
If you want
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Muito obrigado.
I just ordered the device i'll test tour method as well as other.
Do you manage to avoid errors and have Google pay working or device is still detected as unlicensed after applying your tutorial?

One question, if you unlock the google Framework freeze, and then turn on the Play Store and disable all notifications like Gmail, Youtube, Fb and Others, you will no longer be able to receive notifications from these apps. Isn't it better to leave in the freeze Framework and use an alternative store like APKPure or Aurora Store?

hi there
using island and icebox isnt a new method it was created via phiphan1 - nhoccon a few weeks back in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-30-pro/how-to/fix-error-protection-google-mate30pro-t4066235
we have an easier method that phiphan1 - nhoccon has also created on this page of the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/ma...r-protection-google-mate30pro-t4066235/page13
the fix is above in the following thread all credit goes to phiphan1 - nhoccon ...... if you have any questions on this method please ask them in philphan1 thread in the above links , thanks

Can anyone confirm Netflix works?
It works on the P40 Pro.
Lastest update for Netflix app works on P40 Pro. Don't need to use an older version. But so far I haven't heard from Mate 30 Pro users.

YonnyMestampo said:
Can anyone confirm Netflix works?
It works on the P40 Pro.
Lastest update for Netflix app works on P40 Pro. Don't need to use an older version. But so far I haven't heard from Mate 30 Pro users.
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even in the latest fix here ... netflix isnt working https://forum.xda-developers.com/ma...r-protection-google-mate30pro-t4066235/page13
i just save a web shortcut and use it from there , problem solved , there is also amazon video , kodi and many other streaming apks online

buxz777 said:
hi there
using island and icebox isnt a new method it was created via phiphan1 - nhoccon a few weeks back in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-30-pro/how-to/fix-error-protection-google-mate30pro-t4066235
we have an easier method that phiphan1 - nhoccon has also created on this page of the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/ma...r-protection-google-mate30pro-t4066235/page13
the fix is above in the following thread all credit goes to phiphan1 - nhoccon ...... if you have any questions on this method please ask them in philphan1 thread in the above links , thanks
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Im not using Island or ChatPartner. So its no the same. I dont need no credit. I just want to help other solve the problem I Had.

YonnyMestampo said:
Can anyone confirm Netflix works?
It works on the P40 Pro.
Lastest update for Netflix app works on P40 Pro. Don't need to use an older version. But so far I haven't heard from Mate 30 Pro users.
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Netfli works if you use version 3.9.0.3

wetfloor77 said:
One question, if you unlock the google Framework freeze, and then turn on the Play Store and disable all notifications like Gmail, Youtube, Fb and Others, you will no longer be able to receive notifications from these apps. Isn't it better to leave in the freeze Framework and use an alternative store like APKPure or Aurora Store?
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You are correct. No notifications from these apps. If you don unfreeze framework apps wont run. So, better to dont have notifications than no apps.
This is only a problem for GMAIL, but you can install another email Client. Anyway it´is what it is right now.

jejecule said:
Muito obrigado.
I just ordered the device i'll test tour method as well as other.
Do you manage to avoid errors and have Google pay working or device is still detected as unlicensed after applying your tutorial?
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I have no errors, but I dont have notifications for these apps. I dont use Google Pay it does not work in my country.

bonell said:
Im not using Island or ChatPartner. So its no the same. I dont need no credit. I just want to help other solve the problem I Had.
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they are just tweaks of the same method that was originated by phiphan1 in the other thread , for example they stopped using chat apk because chat apk stopped working , they didnt use island because they just use a different app store or hide notifications not fix them etc etc , every one of them fixes comes with its own little problems and the most stable fix that is available is the new one from phiphan1 who has been working on this non stop with other users
the only reason the other videos and method exsist is because phiphan1 work , i am not knocking you for sharing , you are not to know if you havent been following for the last few weeks , however i am trying to help other users who read this realise that they should bhe in the other thread because its got the latest fix and the person who kind of made all this possible is the original poster in that thread and we are lucky to have him working on this kind of stuff
he has tested all the other methods and is trying to perfect it the best he can , this is the best method at the moment with the least problems https://forum.xda-developers.com/ma...r-protection-google-mate30pro-t4066235/page13

buxz777 said:
they are just tweaks of the same method that was originated by phiphan1 in the other thread , for example they stopped using chat apk because chat apk stopped working , they didnt use island because they just use a different app store or hide notifications not fix them etc etc , every one of them fixes comes with its own little problems and the most stable fix that is available is the new one from phiphan1 who has been working on this non stop with other users
the only reason the other videos and method exsist is because phiphan1 work , i am not knocking you for sharing , you are not to know if you havent been following for the last few weeks , however i am trying to help other users who read this realise that they should bhe in the other thread because its got the latest fix and the person who kind of made all this possible is the original poster in that thread and we are lucky to have him working on this kind of stuff
he has tested all the other methods and is trying to perfect it the best he can , this is the best method at the moment with the least problems https://forum.xda-developers.com/ma...r-protection-google-mate30pro-t4066235/page13
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I will follow the thread you pointed. But for now I am not interested in using Island ou alternative stores. So the method I posted is working for me (even though I have no notifications from Google apps).
Thanks for your insight

bonell said:
I will follow the thread you pointed. But for now I am not interested in using Island ou alternative stores. So the method I posted is working for me (even though I have no notifications from Google apps).
Thanks for your insight
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in the video you/they disable notifications , this isnt a fix , it will work for a while , it could stop etc with play warning and you are just hiding the notifications which means they are still pinging in the background which affects battery etc
honestly .... the op of the other thread has been through all this for the last 3 weeks .... the latest fix with the 2 new apk files added is the best fix at the moment .... he is so far ahead of the game he is already working on the next one

Great. Let's hope he gets iot done.

bonell said:
I have no errors, but I dont have notifications for these apps. I dont use Google Pay it does not work in my country.
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when you restart the device you have no problems? gps works well for you? thanks

Yes Friend. After restart I have no errors and location in Google Maps is working properly.

Yuluga said:
when you restart the device you have no problems? gps works well for you? thanks
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Keep it bro ?
He is the inventor of the atom
He is the Android wizard
We will die without him ?

Skyline_r said:
Keep it bro ?
He is the inventor of the atom
He is the Android wizard
We will die without him ?
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???

bonell said:
Hey Guys,
I have found a way to install GMS on Mate 30 Pro, (P40 PRO, P40 LITE, MATE XS).
I have written a full tutorial and have recorded a video with all the steps.
Basically, we restore a backup with LZPlay and icebox app. Freeze Google services framework via ADB with Icebox. And authenticate with an old Google account manager.
Please use the guide on this link and let me know if there are any troubles for you (It´s in Portugueses , please use Google translate) . I have tested it more than 10 times in several models to assure everything is OK.
I am available to answer any questions you may have. Here´s a video:
https://youtu.be/7sokNkSI8lA
If you want
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I think you should list some credits to the user/users who came up with this concept. I understand you have a bit of a different way, but the concept is the same and some users were very active and hard working to get these things done. They deserve credit.
P.S.
Thanks for sharing!

Im still on HMS and have no intention of sideloading GMS until now... my problem is that I'm not getting any Push notifications from viber, telegram, and microsoft teams. Will this fix the issue/s?

Using P40 Pro without GMS - missing specific functionalities without GMS ?

Hi folks,
I am very interested in the P40 Pro, but as many others I am concerned on what will be missing when I would try to get along without GMS.
A few things have not been covered in the many documents and videos I checked, so maybe users already well versed in the Huawei Non-GMS way can help here
- I am using a 3rd party calendar (Calengoo), would this be able to sync to Google calendar without GMS? I specifically use Google calender in sync with my family, would that be possible without GMS?
- I assume all purchases (in-app or Pro versions) are directly linked to Google Playstore, so no way around without it - or is there a way (e.g. with Yalp)?
- access to Google Drive and specifically WhatsApp backups - any luck without GMS?
- syncing of Google Contacts (continously, not just one-time) without GMS - possible?
Please accept my apologies if all this has been answered elsewhere - in that case a short pointer would be much appreciated!
Thanks for your help,
Axel

not sure if you missed my post but everything you need for alternatives is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/how-to/google-alternatives-live-gms-t4081351
now you can make your life easier and just install gms on your phone so you can slowly transition from being without gms so your phone function like what you expect it to be.

Dear xnostra,
Thanks for your reply and the link to your excellent guide which I (of course) have seen and read and it indeed was one of the things that helped me much in understanding have to manoeuvre around lack of GMS.
My questions in the first post are not so much around software functionalities which can be replaced,as your guide indicates!
I was wondering whether some of the syncing (Calendar and contacts specifically) can also be done without GMS, using other apps for contacts and calendar to access my Google account.
Thanks,
Axel
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s3axel said:
Dear xnostra,
Thanks for your reply and the link to your excellent guide which I (of course) have seen and read and it indeed was one of the things that helped me much in understanding have to manoeuvre around lack of GMS.
My questions in the first post are not so much around software functionalities which can be replaced,as your guide indicates!
I was wondering whether some of the syncing (Calendar and contacts specifically) can also be done without GMS, using other apps for contacts and calendar to access my Google account.
Thanks,
Axel
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hi sorry to make the answer short all the things you mention will not work without gms unfortunately. thats why as you see in my previous answer i mentioned ``to make your life easier just install gms`` before you install those apps youll need to install gms otherwise they will not work as expected.

I really really want a P40 Pro and could quite happily replace most of the things I use Google for (I was iCloud anyway for a long time) The 2 biggies though that I believe cannot be properly worked around are Google photos and Google pay.
It is really frustrating as I am very disappointed with my (Exynos) S20+ and the Pixel still falls short, the P40 is overwise terrific. I am actualluy thinking of picking up another P30 pro instead but then as I uderstand there are no guarantees that google support will remain on that either?

arsenal74 said:
I really really want a P40 Pro and could quite happily replace most of the things I use Google for (I was iCloud anyway for a long time) The 2 biggies though that I believe cannot be properly worked around are Google photos and Google pay.
It is really frustrating as I am very disappointed with my (Exynos) S20+ and the Pixel still falls short, the P40 is overwise terrific. I am actualluy thinking of picking up another P30 pro instead but then as I uderstand there are no guarantees that google support will remain on that either?
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p30 pro is not affected by the ban it will function as how its intended to from android updates google playstore and everything.
check my guide on finding alternative solution for your google apps its in the p40 guide section.
i had s20 ultra before i sold it after 5 days it was exynos and i feel scammed on it it functioned very bad compared to a snapdragon.

xnostra said:
p30 pro is not affected by the ban it will function as how its intended to from android updates google playstore and everything.
check my guide on finding alternative solution for your google apps its in the p40 guide section.
i had s20 ultra before i sold it after 5 days it was exynos and i feel scammed on it it functioned very bad compared to a snapdragon.
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I thought the P30 only still worked because of an extension and that extension was not guaranteed?
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s3axel said:
Hi folks,
I am very interested in the P40 Pro, but as many others I am concerned on what will be missing when I would try to get along without GMS.
A few things have not been covered in the many documents and videos I checked, so maybe users already well versed in the Huawei Non-GMS way can help here
- I am using a 3rd party calendar (Calengoo), would this be able to sync to Google calendar without GMS? I specifically use Google calender in sync with my family, would that be possible without GMS?
- I assume all purchases (in-app or Pro versions) are directly linked to Google Playstore, so no way around without it - or is there a way (e.g. with Yalp)?
- access to Google Drive and specifically WhatsApp backups - any luck without GMS?
- syncing of Google Contacts (continously, not just one-time) without GMS - possible?
Please accept my apologies if all this has been answered elsewhere - in that case a short pointer would be much appreciated!
Thanks for your help,
Axel
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I have P40 Pro for some time now and will share what I know to Your questions
-Phone Clone - moves nearly everything from my P30 pro to P40 including calendar data, call logs, contacts, sms etc. so the calendar is fine - but local!
-Purchased apps - I have several - they work (one is asking for some verification but nonintrusive ) of course No updates
-I did not try
-sure NOT
I was perfectly happy wit P30 Pro but both P40 Pro not only for camera But to try a world without GMS - It exists and works - but it's not the same - I missed Google Duo (I can install it from Amazon but can't connect), in a long term I expect some inconveniences - as I have some subscription apps and they'll expire eventually...

I think the prospect of android without the google services does actually have some appeal but I fear in real life losing things like photos, Netflix and Google pay would be frustrating.

arsenal74 said:
I think the prospect of android without the google services does actually have some appeal but I fear in real life losing things like photos, Netflix and Google pay would be frustrating.
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well some people just bought a cheap android which is everywhere nowdays if they really want to use full google capabilities and made their p40 pro their main device i mean different person different solutions. some people like me have an iphone 11 pro max and android so whichever doesnt work the other cn cover.

pesho00 said:
I have P40 Pro for some time now and will share what I know to Your questions
-Phone Clone - moves nearly everything from my P30 pro to P40 including calendar data, call logs, contacts, sms etc. so the calendar is fine - but local!
-Purchased apps - I have several - they work (one is asking for some verification but nonintrusive ) of course No updates
-I did not try
-sure NOT
I was perfectly happy wit P30 Pro but both P40 Pro not only for camera But to try a world without GMS - It exists and works - but it's not the same - I missed Google Duo (I can install it from Amazon but can't connect), in a long term I expect some inconveniences - as I have some subscription apps and they'll expire eventually...
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one member here manage to make google duo work he just reset his phone and used another guide to install gms and it worked for him.

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one member here manage to make google duo work he just reset his phone and used another guide to install gms and it worked for him.
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Sure, but my experiment is to live Without GMS and for now, life is good