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So reading around here about the issues with Chinese versions of Mate 9's and Google Play. I am confused on a few points and thought maybe it would help others, and myself, to have a thread just for the purpose of version clarity. Can someone chime in with a yay or nay to the following:
- My understanding is there are 3 versions; Euro version, International version, and Chinese version.
- Read somewhere around here that the single sim version is Euro.
- Read around here that dual SIM version is International.
- Read around here that 128/6 GB is Chinese.
- With regard to all of the above are they mutually exclusive meaning that, for instance, any 128/6 GB Mate 9 would necessarily be a Chinese version? However, getting a 64/4 GB model might not mean you are avoiding a Chinese variant? If you get dual SIM you are avoiding Chines variant?
- Deducing from what I have read here it seems that any version other than the Chinese version is fine out of the box to work with Google Play.
- Is color in play for versions, all this color a that version or something like that.
I ordered a 128/6 GB White Mate 9 from Oppomart and just trying to see if I need to change to a 64/4 GB or what. Also read around here someone quoted Oppomart as saying they are selling International versions but figured that could change over time (also emailed Oppomart and will share their response when I get it).
*edit*. Adding info that answers my questions so, hopefully, others questions as well. Thanks to all here and elsewhere for the clarity:
The Chinese model is MHA-AL00, and two international models are MHA-L29 and MHA-L09. The MHA-AL00 and the MHA-L29 both support the same bands, basically almost all bands. The MHA-L09 supports all of the bands of the other two models except Band 41 (so bad news for Sprint and China/India if my research is correct). The MHA-L09 is single sim while the MLA-AL00 and MHA-L29 are dual-sim (the hybrid kind so second SIM slot is SD slot). Only the MHA-AL00 now comes in the 128 or 256 and 6 GB variant. Some, not many, MHA-AL00 phones will have the B109SP01 firmware but maybe not many - if it does then you basically got the same thing as an International version in terms of Google Play working (just don't do system update until word here is the Play issue is fixed in the ROM they are pushing out), SIM slots, etc and in future it is likely with unlocked bootloader it could be flashed to become an International version. In short, it seems MHA-AL00 (Chinese) and MHA-L29 (International) are the same hardware phone with the former have the 128/256 and 6 GB option out there and the MLA-L09 is the same but missing the aforementioned band and second SIM slot.
100% you have the Chinese version. There is no MHA-L29 (international) or MHA-L09 in that format...yet...sorry . A lot of these Chinese retailers will lie to fool you into a sale. Only some of them really know their stuff and list it all correctly with the right information/product.
MHA-AL00:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device..._9_dual_sim_td-lte_mha-al00__huawei_manhattan
MHA-L09:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10917&c=huawei_mate_9_td-lte_mha-l09__huawei_manhattan
MHA-L29:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device...e_9_dual_sim_td-lte_mha-l29__huawei_manhattan
I can't comment on software capabilities of each version in terms of LTE etc (I was pretty damn sure that was always limited to hardware). I've coded BMWs so I know hardware limitations for Europe vs USA, and they are there (most notably in tail lights and headlights - orange vs red, glare free LEDs vs regular LEDs due to DOT regulations).
@duraaraa knows more on development on our Mate 9s though since he has tinkered a bit and helped Chinese Mate 9 owners already in the google play/version thread. The phone is still brand new, so hard to say what's true without real world users actually doing tests in each region on select carriers, etc.
So 128/6 GB is going to be useless Chinese brick without Google Play. Why even ship such a pointless device? Not sure it is worth even trying to find right one somewhere.
Starting to see why not bothering with these Chinese phones is probably smart. Thanks for the info. Just so sick of Samsung and that new Pixel iPhone with bigger bezels are no real choices. Ugh.
Back to looking.
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SWBgHz said:
So 128/6 GB is going to be useless Chinese brick without Google Play. Why even ship such a pointless device? Not sure it is worth even trying to find right one somewhere.
Starting to see why not bothering with these Chinese phones is probably smart. Thanks for the info. Just so sick of Samsung and that new Pixel iPhone with bigger bezels are no real choices. Ugh.
Back to looking.
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Your not alone, Hang in there till there's some better information & legitimate details...
Saw the guy who figured out how to work around and downgrade them, but can't spend that kind of money for a device from a company that would ship a useless brick like that. Really sad to me the so called tech press doesn't lambast a company for doing this kind of stuff. Lapdogs, sadly.
So here is the gist of it:
MHA-AL00:
Useless crap
MHA-L09 & MHA-L29
Usable smartphones
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SWBgHz said:
Saw the guy who figured out how to work around and downgrade them, but can't spend that kind of money for a device from a company that would ship a useless brick like that. Really sad to me the so called tech press doesn't lambast a company for doing this kind of stuff. Lapdogs, sadly.
So here is the gist of it:
MHA-AL00:
Useless crap
MHA-L09 & MHA-L29
Usable smartphones
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Well, they can't really slam them for adhering to the Chinese market. You're buying a Chinese variant with all that entails. That's just how these things work. Huawei can't ship a device with play services in China.
Why don't you buy from a more local shop with better credibility? I assume it's because you are in a location where it hasn't launched (yet).
So, why bringing out a MHA-L09 and a MHA-L29?
I checked the database (thanks opasha) and the difference seems to be the number of bands they support. L09 seems to be a subset off L29.
Any ideas? I'm in the Netherlands and I would have expected the 09 but I received the 029.
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Well, they can't really slam them for adhering to the Chinese market. You're buying a Chinese variant with all that entails. That's just how these things work. Huawei can't ship a device with play services in China.
Why don't you buy from a more local shop with better credibility? I assume it's because you are in a location where it hasn't launched (yet).
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Yes, in US. As for slamming them ... not installing Google Play in understand but no capability for it to run? That is pretty messed up. Got a mi mix and easy to install and use Play store and Google services.
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SWBgHz said:
Yes, in US. As for slamming them ... not installing Google Play in understand but no capability for it to run? That is pretty messed up. Got a mi mix and easy to install and use Play store and Google services.
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Two reasons for not being able to do it: Chinese market banning Google products and to avoid people buying devices cheaper from China - instead buying them locally.
If you have a Mi Mix, why would buy another phone?
The US is very restrictive towards Huawei and particularly the Kirin SoCs and the brand isn't particularly strong in the US, so that's why they're hesitant to launch the Mate 9 or Mate 9 Pro in the US.
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If you have a Mi Mix, why would buy another phone?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/help/mi-mix-google-voice-issue-t3506686/page1
That is why I got rid of the Mi Mix, everything worked great but Google Voice could not make calls and my home area was problematic with the limited bands.
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So I found a guy on eBay (yes, I know - but I do fine in eBay and know how to use the protections it affords) that has Chinese version with the B109SP01 firmware that will run Google Play services. This solves the issues, right? It is dual SIM and 128/6 GB (has other sizes too) so question is will this work or just not worth bothering with it?
Oops, yes I know - should have edited previous post instead of adding another.
Adding info that answers my questions so, hopefully, others questions as well. Thanks to all here and elsewhere for the clarity:
The Chinese model is MHA-AL00, and two international models are MHA-L29 and MHA-L09. The MHA-AL00 and the MHA-L29 both support the same bands, basically almost all bands. The MHA-L09 supports all of the bands of the other two models except Band 41 (so bad news for Sprint and China/India if my research is correct). The MHA-L09 is single sim while the MLA-AL00 and MHA-L29 are dual-sim (the hybrid kind so second SIM slot is SD slot). Only the MHA-AL00 now comes in the 128 or 256 and 6 GB variant. Some, not many, MHA-AL00 phones will have the B109SP01 firmware but maybe not many - if it does then you basically got the same thing as an International version in terms of Google Play working (just don't do system update until word here is the Play issue is fixed in the ROM they are pushing out), SIM slots, etc and in future it is likely with unlocked bootloader it could be flashed to become an International version. In short, it seems MHA-AL00 (Chinese) and MHA-L29 (International) are the same hardware phone with the former have the 128/256 and 6 GB option out there and the MLA-L09 is the same but missing the aforementioned band and second SIM slot.
Will edit original post with this info too so easy for anyone to see. Thanks all.
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I just received the MHA-L00 Mate 9 couple of days ago and I was able to install google play without any issues after installing GMSinstaller from Huawei app, I received a firmware OTA as soon as I connected to my wifi B165SP01 which has been working fine. I will keep you posted once I do more tests on it and using it on a daily basis.
I have the international L29 with B158 and 64gb. Dual.
Runs exactely like any other phone vis-a-vis Google / Facebook / Whatsapp
kolembo said:
I have the international L29 with B158 and 64gb. Dual.
Runs exactely like any other phone vis-a-vis Google / Facebook / Whatsapp
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How did you get B158? Regular OTA or some kind of black magic? Mine is still on B126 with nothing to update...
Is that really B158, or B138?
received OTA B167 update on my MHA-AL00 working fine using T-mobile, google apps installed using GSM from HiApp. Only annoying thing is not able to use stock audio controls (Everything is in chinese) and notification bugs considering to rebrand to international verison whenever I have time
I ordered the Mate 9 from a local supplier (Switzerland) 6 months ago. They sent me the MHA-AL00 which - intriguingly - already had Google Play installed. There was no sign of the phone having been set up before to allow the supplier to install Google Play.... Anyway, everything worked as expected and they only thing I noticed that a few obscure menus were in Chinese as well as some text on the lock screen. Last month I broke the screen and since I liked the phone so much (the battery life is a-ma-zing!) I ordered a new one. This time they sent me the MHA-L29 and the only difference I noted is that all the traces to Chinese were gone. Other than that the phones look, feel and act exactly the same. If you figure out how to tweek the very aggressive power management features, this phone is easy to love.
Alright guys I know I am late to the party but I am considering buying a chinese version with 128GB and 6GBRAM from Ebay. My only question is, now that the phone has been out for a while, is it possible to unlock the bootloader and install the international ROM on the chinese 128/6 mate 9?
Or is it safer to stick with the 64GB/4GB RAM MHA-L29?
Btw I am from Australia
i have the international version, mha-l29c185...works great with google installed...also they do have google play store and all the apps on huawei app market...i seen the 128gb mate 9 6gb ram runing play store in videos....not sure whats all the if are about...can easily install a rom with google in it...
s8plususer said:
Alright guys I know I am late to the party but I am considering buying a chinese version with 128GB and 6GBRAM from Ebay. My only question is, now that the phone has been out for a while, is it possible to unlock the bootloader and install the international ROM on the chinese 128/6 mate 9?
Or is it safer to stick with the 64GB/4GB RAM MHA-L29?
Btw I am from Australia
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Yeah. It is possible. Even it will detect that you have 6 / 128 specs on world ROM.
Maximum you will have some troubles with unlock bootloader. In strange cases Chinese models get wrong unlock code via official way. Also, you have to register Huawei account and use phone with it in 14 days to approve your legitimate reason to unlock.
Hi All, just want to clarify the model number of this watch, so far from googling i only found:
HUAWEI WATCH 2 4G (Leo-L09S)
HUAWEI WATCH 2 Classic (Leo-B19)
HUAWEI WATCH 2 (Leo-B09)
there is a post here about custom rom for LEO-BX9/LEO-B09, so what is LEO-BX9? is LEO-BX9 same with LEO-B09 - both are BT only non 4G?
and the most important question:
I am in Australia but if i bought a BT only model with Chinese rom/firmware, is there a way to flash international rom and get the NFC Android Pay works?
basically a custom rom would be different between BT only and 4G model, correct? flashing wrong one and will brick the watch.
thank you.
Hi,
I'm planning on purchasing a Huawei watch 2 however here in Australia they all seem to be grey imports and they all seem to be the LEO-DLXX model / version of the watch.
I guess my question is will I be able to use the watch with Google Play, receive OTA updates etc with this model without any problems?
I've read issues related to the chinese version of the Huawei watch 2 and wanted to make sure I didn't run into any issues.
Thanks
That is the model number of my 4G watch and I bought it in the UK from Watch Hut. Mine is not a grey import.
I got mine LEO-DXX unlocked from operator in central Europe. I don´t think this version is "GREY"
I have one of these too, it is I guess the generic (so for Central Europe mainly) 4G aka LTE model.
It does a great job. PlayStore and everything is genuine.
It is so generic that even thought I got it from a Hungarian provider it only has English language. (along with a few other languages)
I encourage you to get one of these. I think Amazon UK sells this too. (it was on sale in the US I understood the other day)
What is the difference between the Leo-DLXX and the Leo-DLXXU ?
Leo-DLXX. Huawei Watch 2 4G Sport (nano sim)
Leo-DLXXU. Huawei Watch 2 Pro (esim)
Hi. I have a Huawei Watch 2 LEO-DLXX. Can I activate the eSIM feature?
Anyone had success with this watch in the US? My att sim doesn't work but I will try T-mobile later today.
JCARLOSBRAZIL said:
Hi. I have a Huawei Watch 2 LEO-DLXX. Can I activate the eSIM feature?
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No, It doesn't support Esim
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@jobrima: I've checked the kernel how eSim / SIM is supported. The firmware is same, there is a difference in pull up/pull down on one gpio from CPU and probably eUICC chip soldered instead of SIM card slot.
ROM is same. There is a difference in the hardware, as I mentioned in my earlier post. It would be great if somebody who has version with eSim can take some photos of PCB. Or maybe somebody have schemas?
Hi every one, I am from India. Have Jio network Android cellphone mi A2, 6 GB 128 GB. I am going to buy Huawei watch 2 esim version for myself but confused as I don't know it will set up with my phone with the same mobile number as Apple watch configures with iPhone. So if I will buy an esim variant of Huawei watch 2, it will work in India if yes how to configure it with single number with Jio sim. I am still confused. As lot of developers are already working with this can you give me a proper solution will it work to spend around 20k with this watch and get a proper working solution with Android phone and mingling of Huawei watch 2 esim with my phone like Apple watch and Apple iPhone. Help will be highly appreciated. Thanks you have a nice day ahead . Yogesh Aggarwal
PDEM30 is China version(dual sims) and CPH2025 is global version(single sim)
correct?
how can i change from PDEM30 to CPH2025 to support local using in my country?
PDEM is China yes and CPH2025 is international version, but they do come with dual sims as well. I ordered mine from Thailand and I have dual sim with CPH2025 model number.
vosszaa said:
PDEM30 is China version(dual sims) and CPH2025 is global version(single sim)
correct?
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Stunna903 said:
PDEM is China yes and CPH2025 is international version, but they do come with dual sims as well. I ordered mine from Thailand and I have dual sim with CPH2025 model number.
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For the life of me I cannot find any sites that have dual sim as CPH2025. They are all PDEM30
Would you mind telling me where did you get it from please?
I ordered my from the Official Oppo store on JD.com. But they only ship to Thailand, had a friend there and they shipped it to me.
Stunna903 said:
PDEM is China yes and CPH2025 is international version, but they do come with dual sims as well. I ordered mine from Thailand and I have dual sim with CPH2025 model number.
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No, you don't. The international version of the phone physically has a dual SIM-card tray (same as the Chinese one) but only supports single SIM. ¨
That applies for every phone with Snapdragon 865 - either 5G functionality or dual-SIM.
You can't enable dual-SIM functionality on the international model.
No I don't what? I have dual sim so I don't understand what you're saying?
Killer007TV said:
No, you don't. The international version of the phone physically has a dual SIM-card tray (same as the Chinese one) but only supports single SIM. ¨
That applies for every phone with Snapdragon 865 - either 5G functionality or dual-SIM.
You can't enable dual-SIM functionality on the international model.
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No I don't what? I have dual sim so I don't understand what you're saying?
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You might just be new to this Find X2 Pro forum, so let me know you about the situation:
It's established here that the Chinese (PDEM) version supports dual-SIM while the Global one (CPH) only supports single-SIM.
People tried so hard to modify the Global ROM so it would support dual-SIM (as it has the very same hardware as the Chinese one, even the same dual SIM card tray) but without success at all.
So the bottom line is (so far has been) that there is no way to make dual-SIM work on the Global (CPH) version of the phone.
So now if you're saying that you own a CPH version of the phone and dual-SIM works for you, it's revolutionary and we would really like to see the proof.
I'll copy here what I wrote in another thread to a user who reportedly found a Global dual-SIM version of the phone:
Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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Well apparently you know everything there is to know about this phone, but here's a screenshot for you. Please explain.....
Killer007TV said:
You might just be new to this Find X2 Pro forum, so let me know you about the situation:
It's established here that the Chinese (PDEM) version supports dual-SIM while the Global one (CPH) only supports single-SIM.
People tried so hard to modify the Global ROM so it would support dual-SIM (as it has the very same hardware as the Chinese one, even the same dual SIM card tray) but without success at all.
So the bottom line is (so far has been) that there is no way to make dual-SIM work on the Global (CPH) version of the phone.
So now if you're saying that you own a CPH version of the phone and dual-SIM works for you, it's revolutionary and we would really like to see the proof.
I'll copy here what I wrote in another thread to a user who reportedly found a Global dual-SIM version of the phone:
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Ok,
but how?
Stunna903 said:
Well apparently you know everything there is to know about this phone, but here's a screenshot for you. Please explain.....
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How can you be so sensitive? Why do you think I attacked you in any way? Seriously lol.
It's internet, words can have various tones and I was as polite as in every single other thread.
I'm a part of this Oppo forum since early March and I wanted to show you what multiple (rather dozens) users concluded here with their efforts.
If you fail to understand that, I apologize, I can't be any more gentle.
So now who's being sensitive. All I said was you know a lot about the phone, which you do and I wanted you see that my phone has dual sims, that's all. We are a family here, no need for the bickering. We are all here to try to help each other right.
Killer007TV said:
How can you be so sensitive? Why do you think I attacked you in any way? Seriously lol.
It's internet, words can have various tones and I was as polite as in every single other thread.
I'm a part of this Oppo forum since early March and I wanted to show you what multiple (rather dozens) users concluded here with their efforts.
If you fail to understand that, I apologize, I can't be any more gentle.
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My phone came like this. I thought all CHP2025 versions were the same.
dgardel said:
Ok,
but how?
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Stunna903 said:
So now who's being sensitive. All I said was you know a lot about the phone, which you do and I wanted you see that my phone has dual sims, that's all. We are a family here, no need for the bickering. We are all here to try to help each other right.
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Agreed. The sarcasm on your side wasn't really necessary but I'm sure we can leave it behind.
Would you mind sharing your OS version (exact build)? So we may have a chance to find out whether you have a newer firmware. You wouldn't believe how many users here (and for how long) are eager to hear about a dual-SIM global Find X2 Pro. You're actually the very first one.
Yes sir.... I'm running Android 10, ColorOS 7.1, CPH2025_11_A.18.
Killer007TV said:
Agreed. The sarcasm on your side wasn't really necessary but I'm sure we can leave it behind.
Would you mind sharing your OS version (exact build)? So we may have a chance to find out whether you have a newer firmware. You wouldn't believe how many users here (and for how long) are eager to hear about a dual-SIM global Find X2 Pro. You're actually the very first one.
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Yes sir.... I'm running Android 10, ColorOS 7.1, CPH2025_11_A.18.
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That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
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That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
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Maybe if you flash that it would enable the dual sims functionality? But without the physical dual sims tray, how would you use dual sims??
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Maybe if you flash that it would enable the dual sims functionality? But without the physical dual sims tray, how would you use dual sims??
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There IS a physical dual-SIM card tray. That is the most incomprehensible thing - why did Oppo bother with blocking dual-SIM for the rest of world.
Maybe it's got something to do with 5G? In good sources I read that you can't use both 5G and dual-SIM at the same time (you have to "decrease" to connection to 4G on both SIMs) - limitation of X55 modem on the Snapdragon 865.
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That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
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There IS a physical dual-SIM card tray.
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That's the thing. If I buy the global version, the tray I get would be a single tray so I have to look for dual sims tray elsewhere which i dont even see it selling anywhere. More headache
There is no dual sim "tray" in the global version. There are the "connectors" in the phone for dual SIM
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There IS a physical dual-SIM card tray. That is the most incomprehensible thing - why did Oppo bother with blocking dual-SIM for the rest of world.
Maybe it's got something to do with 5G? In good sources I read that you can't use both 5G and dual-SIM at the same time (you have to "decrease" to connection to 4G on both SIMs) - limitation of X55 modem on the Snapdragon 865.
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You can "trim it" down with sand paper or a dremel, that's what i did. But even then with various codes like *#800#* etc... you can't enable the dual sim.
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That's the thing. If I buy the global version, the tray I get would be a single tray so I have to look for dual sims tray elsewhere which i dont even see it selling anywhere. More headache
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Now, you @Stunna903 i'm interested in your phone, but i have some questions for you :
1. Where did you buy your phone? (online, physical shop?) -> ok just saw you got it on jd.com
2. Have you tried to change the Launcher on your phone (like installing Nova, etc.) and does it work. If you ADB unistall the launcher on the chinese version you lose the gesture controls at the bottom of your screen.
3. what language choices do you have ?
you are running A.18 which is the UK ROM... so please, i'm very interested in your phone, where you bought it, if Volte and wificalling are working...
As this is amazing for me. We had both phones in our hands Chinese and Global version, we tried EVERYTHING to port the Global to the Chinese, enable dual sim on the Global.
This could mean, depending where you bought it, that there is a specific market where they sell the X2Pro with global dual SIM... and that, might interest me A LOT.
Stunna903 said:
Yes sir.... I'm running Android 10, ColorOS 7.1, CPH2025_11_A.18.
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Can you please provide the screenshots of the the "sim info and settings", "build number" (hide your IMEI). Because this is drving me nuts lol. thx @Stunna903
edit : I just checked on jd.com and they are selling the PDEM version... so i'm very curious to get more info on how Stunna did it...(see attached screenshot of JD.com)
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That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
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Just in case, this is what i had to do with my tray lol.
He already said he bought it from jd.com