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Hi guys, my girlfriend bought a lumia 710, and one day after she bought it, I flashed a custom rom
But, we can't remember making any call before the new ROM, and with the new ROM the call quality is TERRIBLE, when I try to talk to her, I always hear a very loud echo, and her voice is always very low...
Has anyone got a similar bug? can this be caused by the ROM? or is it a problem with the phone and we need to send it to the technical assistance??
I was thinking on trying to put a custom ROM based com 7.8 to see if this fixes the call problem, but we don't want to lose every progress we made on our games :crying: is there anyway to make a backup of the savegames so I can put it back on the new ROM?
You're quite likely to get flamed (and rightly so) for the last part of your first sentence. I'll certainly tell you that I have no particular interest in helping you. I might even engage in a bit of it myself...
With that said, I don't know whether there are call problems with Lumia 710 custom ROMs, but normally that certainly isn't a problem they have. As for backup, there are ways both to back up the whole phone, or individual app storage. I'll leave the issue of finding them up to you; you seem perfectly capable of searching XDA-Devs when your goal is to abuse the hard work of the forum's actual contributors and be a greedy cheapskate with a sense of entitlement; so you have a pretty good chance of finding the backup tools too.
Oh look, I guess I did...
Specht77 said:
.... but we don't want to lose every progress we made on our games :crying: is there anyway to make a backup of the savegames so I can put it back on the new ROM?
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If that Lumia is unlocked you can do backup with data bases your games (and other apps) via Windows Phone Device Manager from Julien Schapman. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965788
GoodDayToDie said:
You're quite likely to get flamed (and rightly so) for the last part of your first sentence. I'll certainly tell you that I have no particular interest in helping you. I might even engage in a bit of it myself...
With that said, I don't know whether there are call problems with Lumia 710 custom ROMs, but normally that certainly isn't a problem they have. As for backup, there are ways both to back up the whole phone, or individual app storage. I'll leave the issue of finding them up to you; you seem perfectly capable of searching XDA-Devs when your goal is to abuse the hard work of the forum's actual contributors and be a greedy cheapskate with a sense of entitlement; so you have a pretty good chance of finding the backup tools too.
Oh look, I guess I did...
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whoa easy there, don't need to come with 20 rocks on your hands...
Let's go by parts... You mean to tell me that I'm getting flamed just because we don't want to lose our progress on games? Isn't it normal? Don't you play games on your phone and computer? You wouldn't mind to lose all your progress?
I really don't know why to be so hater, i mean, if I was asking this stuff in other sub-forum I would understand, but this is the part for questions, aren't we suposed to ask stuff in here?
The last thing I want is to abuse or anything, I'm just asking here because I made a search on the internet and I didn't find anything helpful, and I thought that it was possible that someone here could had the same problem and know how to fix it...
My english is not perfect, dunno if I sounded rude on the first post up there, if so, sorry, don't need to be rude back... That wasn't my objective...
Now, about the backups, you said that it's possible to backup the whole phone, what do you mean about "whole"? It include the OS? So if I put the 7.8 I couldn't restore the savegames? If I try to restore it'll downgrade?
Specht77 said:
I flashed a custom rom to put more games on it...
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GoodDayToDie is refering to this comment... Here at XDA we DO NOT condone, encourage, support or assist in Piracy!
well damn, is it too late to just forget this little part?
In fairness, the loss of app progress is a huge problem however those apps got on your phone (yes, I do a ton of gaming on my phone, and at one point lost a lot of progress when I had to roll back the phone without being able to back up app data). That's why we do now, in fact, have tools for backing up the file in individual apps.
As for the "whole phone" thing, that's everything - the OS, the firmware, and the data - all in one opaque and encrypted blob. It's very handy for something to do before you mess with your phone's ROM or try experimental hacks. However, when it's restored, it overwrites everything on the phone back to that state. There's no way to do it piecemeal.
Budniu said:
If that Lumia is unlocked you can do backup with data bases your games (and other apps) via Windows Phone Device Manager from Julien Schapman. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965788
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Is it documented someplace on what to backup with this before installing a custom rom ? Under a quick look and search, I could not find the exact info on how to do this correctly
I want to backup all Game saves, phone log, SMS and picture messages and install a custom rom then restore them so I dont lose my any of it. Is this possable ? This would make i
I did seach, sorry if I missed it someplace....
Thanks in advance !
well, looks like i'm a bit out of luck...
I tried doing backup of the savegames with Windows Phone Device Manager, and installed the new ROM to see if it would fix the call quality...
well, it didn't, then I had an idea, and took off the case, and discovered that the case was causing this problem, it was in front of the microphone, that's why it was making echo, it was capturing sound from inside the phone, and I could hear her voice very low...
basically I "formated" the phone for nothing... and I tried to restore the backups I made on the WPDM, and it said that it restored successfully, but I tried the games... and it was with 0% progress !!!
I trully should have tried to learn more about making that full backup, it would be useful now!!!
edit: well, just kinectimals worked the backup
Specht77 said:
well, looks like i'm a bit out of luck...
I tried doing backup of the savegames with Windows Phone Device Manager, and installed the new ROM to see if it would fix the call quality...
well, it didn't, then I had an idea, and took off the case, and discovered that the case was causing this problem, it was in front of the microphone, that's why it was making echo, it was capturing sound from inside the phone, and I could hear her voice very low...
basically I "formated" the phone for nothing... and I tried to restore the backups I made on the WPDM, and it said that it restored successfully, but I tried the games... and it was with 0% progress !!!
I trully should have tried to learn more about making that full backup, it would be useful now!!!
edit: well, just kinectimals worked the backup
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Did you have to redownload the games before restoring ?
well, I installed them, then tries to restore the backup but nothing happened, didnt had to redownload and it's still 0%...
But don't worry, at least I discovered what was causing the call problem... Now we just need to make a little cut on the case!
I don't want to know how to root, I can find my answer for that on Google, however what I don't get is what it does...
I know it unlocks the device somehow, but can't I simply access everything in the system if I compile android from source and install it on the device?
I have downloaded the android source and I believe I can access every possible thing, so why is rooting needed?
If I install an app as a system app, won't it automatically have the permissions to do what I need it to do?
AFAIK rooting is for the people you'd call the end user/consumer or whatever.
If you have a new phone and want to install one of the many custom ROMs around, you simply need a rooted phone.
A custom ROM is in easy terms a custom made User Interface for the phone.
There is lot more complicated stuff going on under the hood, but in general you change the look and feel of you phone's UI.
The phone has to be rooted, because the manufacturers and net providers around pack a lot of useless crap called "bloatware" (like Samsung Shop and Samsung Play and Samsung Sing and Dance and Music and whatnot) on your phone, which often makes it slower than it can be without it.
But naturally the big corps don't want you to be able to get rid of that **** too easily, which is why you don't have access to the system folders as a normal user.
I guess in your case it's possible that you (if you compiled android from source and installed it on your device) so to say have an already rooted phone, since Android itself is rooted by default. Like I said, the manufacturers are the ones to unroot Android in order to dictate which apps their customers might or might not use.
But I'm a noob and am not sure how you would install Android on your phone if it's new (and unrooted by default?) if you haven't rooted it before?
meh, hope that helped a bit at least...
root- you would love to do it after reading this..
Root? what is it?
it is what i call full access to our phone, flash new roms, have dual boot (example- you can have to os like ics and JB), can access the evasive /data folder which holdes the apk/setups of apps installed from playstore and many other things..
If you are concerned about warranty you can unroot your phone and give in your phone for warranty. i have given my phone for warranty like this.
The most important thing i like about root is that i can fix my phone myself (if it is a software problem). any other question please ask, and i will answer it.
Thanks if helped!
I don't have the time for development anymore. I used to play with stuff like that years ago, but life has taken me away from it. I'd still like to be able to access everything on my phone and play with custom roms, and root lets me do that. The end consumer comment is a good one.
As for to root or not root, I tell most people who ask me to root for them what they use their phone for and explain what they would get out of rooting, and explain the risks involved. Seems that people who understand what rooting does are able to do it themselves, and the ones that ask you to do it for them usually decide against it after hearing "there is a tiny chance that your phone could get bricked" lol
If you just want to play emulators etc, how would you benefit from rooting?
IMO rooting is very useful if you want to keep touching system things in a stock rom, optimizing and debloating it, installing other people ROMs, etc... I believe that if you compile your own flavour of android and find no restriction doing whatever you want, you don't need to.
Android phone without root is nothing
McFex said:
AFAIK rooting is for the people you'd call the end user/consumer or whatever.
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McFex said:
But I'm a noob and am not sure how you would install Android on your phone if it's new (and unrooted by default?) if you haven't rooted it before?
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Some phones can just be flashed (for example via usb) which gives you full control, others can be cracked.
Hi all, I've just acquired a refurbished MT4GS to use as my main Android phone. It comes with the Stock ROM and I would like to try some others and decide whether to change or keep it.
I personally prefer stability and full functionality over latest versions, I've read that some ROMS have issues with video recording at FullHD for instance, and I would try to avoid this kind of things. The stock camera App is very good and if possible I would like to change to a ROM that keeps it fully functional. Anyone could tell me whether such a ROM exists or should I better keep the stock ROM just removing as much bloatware as possible? (all the T-Mobile stuff is completely useless to me)...
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Hi all, I've just acquired a refurbished MT4GS to use as my main Android phone. It comes with the Stock ROM and I would like to try some others and decide whether to change or keep it.
I personally prefer stability and full functionality over latest versions, I've read that some ROMS have issues with video recording at FullHD for instance, and I would try to avoid this kind of things. The stock camera App is very good and if possible I would like to change to a ROM that keeps it fully functional. Anyone could tell me whether such a ROM exists or should I better keep the stock ROM just removing as much bloatware as possible? (all the T-Mobile stuff is completely useless to me)...
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For the best picture quality, keep the stock if at all possible (or use MikTouch). Custom ROM's have a tendency of not taking full advantage of the camera hardware.
If you find you need to upgrade to use a specific app, I always liked TBalden's CM 10.1. You would want to download a third party camera (I used UCam Ultra Camera quite religiously) to get some of the quality back.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, so far I've unlocked bootloader, s-off'd, and tried CM9.1 and MikTouch 0.7 (I think I will follow your advice and will stay with this one).
BTW, When I place a big .zip ROM file in the root folder of the SD Card, CWM takes a looooong time before it shows the message "back menu button enabled" and becomes functional, I'm talking about minutes. Is this behaviour normal?
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Thanks, so far I've unlocked bootloader, s-off'd, and tried CM9.1 and MikTouch 0.7 (I think I will follow your advice and will stay with this one).
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Great!
opqa said:
BTW, When I place a big .zip ROM file in the root folder of the SD Card, CWM takes a looooong time before it shows the message "back menu button enabled" and becomes functional, I'm talking about minutes. Is this behaviour normal?
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I never encountered that myself, but if it is the result of pushing the file to the SD (adb), I wouldn't be surprised as file transfer is slow in some conditions anyway (take CM9.1 for example - it's notorious for that) and CWM is probably on the wait for the file to be ready.
Hi there,
Few months ago, I was told in XDA site that nowadays changing the ROM is not anymore the best way to de-google a device. Now it is better to de-bloat and tweak the device.
Do you agree with this statement?
Did you change the ROM in your device or only de-bloated it? Tell me your experience. Easy to install, need to root, unblock the bootloader, update, what is NOT working, speed, battery, ...?
I own a Samung Tablet S5e LTE few months old, under guaranty and would like to de-google it. I was thinking to change the ROM, is tit the best way?
What is your advice? If needed, what ROM to use? What way, software to de-bloat?
Many thanks
MrNice said:
Hi there,
Few months ago, I was told in XDA site that nowadays changing the ROM is not anymore the best way to de-google a device. Now it is better to de-bloat and tweak the device.
Do you agree with this statement?
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Fully agree with this.
Thank you for your fast answer.
Could you be more specific and tell me why, how (big picture) and if you have experience what tools did you use?
People most times use terms "De-google" and "De-bloat" not knowing what they are really speaking of.
The Vanilla Android ( read: AOSP - today often called GSI ) is totally free of apps developed by Google ( topic: GMS ) and the service ( GFS ) they need to run, this because NOBODY basically needs these to operate a phone. But the overwhelming majority of the users of mobile devices want an Android what is extended by features, so they can download & install more apps, play games, listen to music, watch porn videos. OEMs respect this wish - they want to sell their products - and therefore typically add GMS & GFS to their Android OS, so it in reality becomes a Custom ROM.
Resume: Vanilla Android - and all ROMS that are based on Vanilla Android ( like Lineage OS and many others ) must not get "De-googled".
Bloatware ( or Potentially Unwanted Programs - PUP ) is software users don’t want, that burdens and slows down a mobile device. It usually comes pre-installed by vendors, manufacturers or carriers. IMO "De-bloating" is the first thing a user should do when starting up a new device.
Bloatware typically is installed as system-app, hence phone's Android must got rooted before you can start "De-bloating".
As I am not very skilled in Android, I appreciate your post.
I installed LineageOS 17.1 on my Samsung S6, it working fine, I am happy for the usage but the only issue I have is that I can't update. This is another story in another XDA forum.
My need are usual plus
Read books, music sheets, social networks, Internet TV, news, training, conference (low bit-rate), email, messaging, GPS travel, basic pictures,
some specific app for music practice (tuner, metronome), veg gardening (I need to find one suitable for me).
but no game, no HD movie (download or stream), no large download
Backup locally (I need to learn more), no cloud usage.
As I run GNU/Linux for around 20 y, I hate to have to register for account in any app from GAFAM and I don't want as much as possible give them my data. I try to select the app without tracker, FOSS and I block the permissions as much as possible.
If I can de-google this is the best for my mindset.
I understand that de-google or de-bloat, I 'll have to root so break Knox. Right?
I don't know if I need GMS and/or GFS for my use. Could you tell me? For what app it is mandatory?
With my S5e I want to be more cautious, I need a way as secure as possible to not brick it.
With all these info, what do you advice?
MrNice said:
Hi there,
Few months ago, I was told in XDA site that nowadays changing the ROM is not anymore the best way to de-google a device. Now it is better to de-bloat and tweak the device.
Do you agree with this statement?
Did you change the ROM in your device or only de-bloated it? Tell me your experience. Easy to install, need to root, unblock the bootloader, update, what is NOT working, speed, battery, ...?
I own a Samung Tablet S5e LTE few months old, under guaranty and would like to de-google it. I was thinking to change the ROM, is tit the best way?
What is your advice? If needed, what ROM to use? What way, software to de-bloat?
Many thanks
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For the Tab S5e de-googling it is next to impossible with stock samsung rom. LOS works great on it and not too difficult to install, CRDroid works well on it but is better with google installed, /e/ rom was being developed for it but I don't know if they are still working on it. I built an /e/ rom locally for my Tab S5e last year and it worked very well. If you want to get away from google you need to ditch the OneUI or whatever they are calling it.
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For the Tab S5e de-googling it is next to impossible with stock samsung rom. LOS works great on it and not too difficult to install, CRDroid works well on it but is better with google installed, /e/ rom was being developed for it but I don't know if they are still working on it. I built an /e/ rom locally for my Tab S5e last year and it worked very well. If you want to get away from google you need to ditch the OneUI or whatever they are calling it.
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Thanks for you advice, I'll work on it soon.
I am using Samsung A51 running on Android 12. My device is lagging since last few days. I want to debloat my device. I had debloated once, but it stopped working settings app when it was running on android 11.
I need the debloating list which don't crash any essential app.
Please help me.
hello, for more comfortable debloating i will recommend you to use ADBAppControl.
i do not know by what way i debloadted my phone, but in that programm you have a feature of backing up the .apk file of the application you uninstalled.
You can debloat your phone by this tactic
1. Debloat your phone without uninstalling system applications;
2. Debloat your phone by uninstalling samsung applications (samsung free, samsung galaxy friends);
* If you want more, you can follow this site: https://www.alliancex.org/shield/apps.html
or (i do not think, really) flash a custom ROM, like elementary OS
If it was help, let me know)
vmirrimv said:
hello, for more comfortable debloating i will recommend you to use ADBAppControl.
i do not know by what way i debloadted my phone, but in that programm you have a feature of backing up the .apk file of the application you uninstalled.
You can debloat your phone by this tactic
1. Debloat your phone without uninstalling system applications;
2. Debloat your phone by uninstalling samsung applications (samsung free, samsung galaxy friends);
* If you want more, you can follow this site: https://www.alliancex.org/shield/apps.html
or (i do not think, really) flash a custom ROM, like elementary OS
If it was help, let me know)
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Thanks a lot. I'll give a try.
Hello, by the way, now I want to go back to the custom ROM, and I may make a video about what I will be able to remove from the phone avoiding future bugs and problems. if you want
vmirrimv said:
Hello, by the way, now I want to go back to the custom ROM, and I may make a video about what I will be able to remove from the phone avoiding future bugs and problems. if you want
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Ok, give me the video link.
hello, wait about 30 minutes
THE video is done! But I am sorry about its quality
Leave a feedback, if it helps)
Just debloated by this way. But the ram usage is same.
i would say it is the problem of the ROM, because it uses another frameworks for modules of wi-fi, for example or of mobile communication.
When I used SuperiorOS, where the most programm part has been built as open-source, the usage was at least 2 times less.
But you should not only focus on RAM usage, because those apps drain you battery and internet traffic, too
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i would say it is the problem of the ROM, because it uses another frameworks for modules of wi-fi, for example or of mobile communication.
When I used SuperiorOS, where the most programm part has been built as open-source, the usage was at least 2 times less.
But you should not only focus on RAM usage, because those apps drain you battery and internet traffic, too
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Any bug free custom rom?
Sorry i did not get you, can you type it in another words?
Do you have any custom rom without any error/faults?
If you ask me, I do not have, but I can advise ROMs from another users of XDA
They are like SuperiorOS (with custom kernel installed, for avoiding MTP issue, with GAPPS), ElemantaryOS or Refined UI
Other ROMs I simply do not perceive as something needed to do so (because of its quality).
But you need understand, that nobody except of the manufacturer will create a bug-free OS for the certain phone, I think.
But custom ROMs like ElementaryOS and Refined UI ones seem to be a good choice, because they has been created by modifying the stock ROM
And there is also the question you need to ask youself: why do I need it?
If answers are like I want a faster experience or new features then I would say that it's not worth it
I think the problem is, that you do not want to use your device as it was intented to be, but you want to play with it by modifying and so one.
If it is, then I would say that this way of spending time is void and meaningless
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And there is also the question you need to ask youself: why do I need it?
If answers are like I want a faster experience or new features then I would say that it's not worth it
I think the problem is, that you do not want to use your device as it was intented to be, but you want to play with it by modifying and so one.
If it is, then I would say that this way of spending time is void and meaningless
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U didn't get me. I want a minimalistic lightweight OS with less ram and battery usage. I used elementary os running on android 11. I have come to stock rom for android 12. And i did very wrong.
So then, I will recommend you SuperiorOS, but there are some bugs with Bluetooth and MTP. Although, I think, there are no official supported custom ROMs for SM-A515F.
But if you want to flash this ROM on your phone, you will need to downgrade (roll back) your Android version to 11 (as I tried on 12th, it did not work).
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So then, I will recommend you SuperiorOS, but there are some bugs with Bluetooth and MTP. Although, I think, there are no official supported custom ROMs for SM-A515F.
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Can you give me the link please !!