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Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
*flower bouquets for helpers*
Nichyun said:
Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
*flower bouquets for helpers*
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I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
ThisWasATriumph said:
I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
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I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
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I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
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Apps installed on the phone do not take up your main phone storage. There are two separate disk partitions. The first one is ~2GB and holds your OS and applications. The second is ~10GB and holds your pictures, videos, external app data etc. Thats what an SD card would add on to if we had one. Installing more apps (that don't have extra parts, games often do for example) won't take up anymore of that space though. (however it is possible to install apps to the SD card) Anyways, like I said you can go into settings and "disable" any apps you don't want to show up in the app drawer anymore.
So like many others using d850 ive noticed that on cloudy 1.2 hotspot is broken. I figured out a fix. I grabbed the apns-conf.xml file from the stock rom and replaced it in cloudys rom. And tethering works great. Don't know if the fix has already been posted but i know a bunch of people were having the problem so i just wanted to share.
Heres what i did:
1. Grab this file
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Sl-yzm6h3FbXE3S1JZQkIwTDg/edit?usp=docslist_api
2. Using your root explorer of choice, backup your current apns-conf.xml which can be found in the /system/etc folder
3. Place the downloaded apns-conf.xml in the /system/etc folder and set permissions rw-r-r
4. Reboot phone
5. Go to apn settings and reset default all the current apns will clear out and you'll be left with the stock apn.
I tried adding the stock apn to the list of apns in the settings and while it would add it wouldnt allow mobile hotspot to actually share the connection, itd connect but the connected device wouldn't be able to access internet. Again sorry if this has been posted and sorry for any errors I'm on mobile.
TL;DR: Found out AT&T removed functionality from the phone and have yet to find software experience that provides all features
I want to start off by saying I love this phone. I switched from the nexus 5 to the G3 shortly after launch and have been happy for the majority of the time I've had my phone. In all honesty this rant isn't so much about the d850 as it is AT&T's meddling with the software but I'll explain what I mean. When i first received the phone one of the first things I did was root to remove bloatware and carrier IQ and also to install xposed, I thought that was the extent to which AT&T had dirtied up a great phone, so I just brushed it off and went about way never thinking twice. I found something that i felt covered all my needs. The only minor complaint I had was there was no hotspot quicksetting option, but at that point it was still something so minor I was able to overlook it. Now fast forward a couple of months to when Cloudy was released, after seeing constant posts on reddit about OTA's and AT&T not having received a single one, I felt that switching to an international base would put me on the latest and greatest, plus the flash addict in me just really wanted to try something new. So I installed bump and flashed away, it booted up, I played with all the new options in settings, thought it wasn't bad, but to me what was worth the price of admission alone was i got a hotspot quicksetting tile, I figured this was something that must've been added in later. This was during the time that to get LTE back you had to play around with build.prop, so being the curious person that i was I flashed back to stock and applied some of the same build.prop changes to the stock rom, one in particular, changing the operator from AT&T to OPEN. I rebooted the phone and checked the phone, all sort of nifty little features were added (dropbox in file manager, brightness and volume sliders) but the one in particular that really surprised me? A hotspot quicksetting tile, it's a broken tile that doesn't work but its there. Now this means that this feature came stock on the phone and AT&T removed it from their variant, effectively removing functionality from my phone. Now i know not everyone on AT&T has a hotspot capable plan but these quicksetting tiles can be edited, it could've been turned off by default giving you the option to add it later. Now with the limited number of combinations available to me I've tried every rom available that has this feature and it seems that it gives me this feature at the cost of something else (latest version of cloudy has a broken hotspot, earlier versions had broken speakerphone, poweruser is stripped down to much for my tastes and leaving the build.prop in open leaves you with a broken hotspot all together), leaving me feeling like i have an incomplete phone no matter which software choice I make. I know in a way i brought it on myself for initially flashing the phone, but that's like saying that I'm guilty for wondering how the other half lives. Overall its a great phone and i don't regret buying it in the slightest, I just really needed to vent about a great disservice that was done to this phone, and will really make me consider buying another carrier branded phone.
Yawn.
2SHAYNEZ
Totally agree with you on the att screwing with phones is bull****. It's the contract deals that always sucker me in to buying a phone at a discounted price.
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Another downside to changing to OPEN in the build.prop is that you lose the secret dialer menus. Try using it and you get null
oby2 said:
TL;DR: Found out AT&T removed functionality from the phone and have yet to find software experience that provides all features
I want to start off by saying I love this phone. I switched from the nexus 5 to the G3 shortly after launch and have been happy for the majority of the time I've had my phone. In all honesty this rant isn't so much about the d850 as it is AT&T's meddling with the software but I'll explain what I mean. When i first received the phone one of the first things I did was root to remove bloatware and carrier IQ and also to install xposed, I thought that was the extent to which AT&T had dirtied up a great phone, so I just brushed it off and went about way never thinking twice. I found something that i felt covered all my needs. The only minor complaint I had was there was no hotspot quicksetting option, but at that point it was still something so minor I was able to overlook it. Now fast forward a couple of months to when Cloudy was released, after seeing constant posts on reddit about OTA's and AT&T not having received a single one, I felt that switching to an international base would put me on the latest and greatest, plus the flash addict in me just really wanted to try something new. So I installed bump and flashed away, it booted up, I played with all the new options in settings, thought it wasn't bad, but to me what was worth the price of admission alone was i got a hotspot quicksetting tile, I figured this was something that must've been added in later. This was during the time that to get LTE back you had to play around with build.prop, so being the curious person that i was I flashed back to stock and applied some of the same build.prop changes to the stock rom, one in particular, changing the operator from AT&T to OPEN. I rebooted the phone and checked the phone, all sort of nifty little features were added (dropbox in file manager, brightness and volume sliders) but the one in particular that really surprised me? A hotspot quicksetting tile, it's a broken tile that doesn't work but its there. Now this means that this feature came stock on the phone and AT&T removed it from their variant, effectively removing functionality from my phone. Now i know not everyone on AT&T has a hotspot capable plan but these quicksetting tiles can be edited, it could've been turned off by default giving you the option to add it later. Now with the limited number of combinations available to me I've tried every rom available that has this feature and it seems that it gives me this feature at the cost of something else (latest version of cloudy has a broken hotspot, earlier versions had broken speakerphone, poweruser is stripped down to much for my tastes and leaving the build.prop in open leaves you with a broken hotspot all together), leaving me feeling like i have an incomplete phone no matter which software choice I make. I know in a way i brought it on myself for initially flashing the phone, but that's like saying that I'm guilty for wondering how the other half lives. Overall its a great phone and i don't regret buying it in the slightest, I just really needed to vent about a great disservice that was done to this phone, and will really make me consider buying another carrier branded phone.
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All carriers do it. Always have. Think about video calling. Stock devices had this in EU for years before the us ever did. So what did carriers do. Ordered devices without front cameras. Same thing with call recording. If you never want to deal with this then to be honest your only option will be to by unbranded devices from EU. Yes you pay full price but with the proper research you can be sure to get all that the device can do out of the box.
You should copy and paste that to ATT, *yawn*
zelendel said:
All carriers do it. Always have. /QUOTE]
Unfortunately this is true. AT&T is notorious for doing so. For instance, every android phone I have owned that was AT&T branded has always had the network select disabled but the global variants and some US variants did not. The only reasons I can think of is to lock you in on the bandwidths they want (the most likely scenario) and to prevent non technical people from inadvertently changing this setting and calling tech support. Unless enough people complain to the carriers, the phone manufacturers, AND their congress reps, nothing will change as I am sure it is about the almighty dollar.
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So I thought this is where we can post what we want...General section. Lol but a couple snide posts "yawn". Why post your unwanted, unneeded comments. Just don't read it if you don't have anything constructive to add.
Just sad how much XDA has lost its purpose.
dizzyman1180 said:
So I thought this is where we can post what we want...General section. Lol but a couple snide posts "yawn". Why post your unwanted, unneeded comments. Just don't read it if you don't have anything constructive to add.
Just sad how much XDA has lost its purpose.
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If that is what you think then you are very wrong.
XDA is and always be a developers site.
dizzyman1180 said:
So I thought this is where we can post what we want...General section. Lol but a couple snide posts "yawn". Why post your unwanted, unneeded comments. Just don't read it if you don't have anything constructive to add.
Just sad how much XDA has lost its purpose.
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i think it's because it's something people know already: carriers lock, deactivate, revise the manufacturer's features.
think of the AT&T S5 deactivating download boost (LTE+wifi speeds), or our wireless charger being PMA vs Qi, etc, etc.
I completely agree and I use the hotspot feature daily. In the absence of a quick tile I used tasker/sercure settings/tasker app factory to make a very small installable hotspot toggle app and placed the icon on my desktop. Tap it once for on again for off and it works great. If you haven't already found another solution give it a shot.
rzracer2 said:
I completely agree and I use the hotspot feature daily. In the absence of a quick tile I used tasker/sercure settings/tasker app factory to make a very small installable hotspot toggle app and placed the icon on my desktop. Tap it once for on again for off and it works great. If you haven't already found another solution give it a shot.
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I think stock brought something like that but it was just a shortcut to the setting, i found a way to get the hotspot working again on 1.2 cloudy and currently in love with my phone again.
zelendel said:
If that is what you think then you are very wrong.
XDA is and always be a developers site.
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Lol ok
Oby2, I really like Coudy 1.2 on my D850 but I can't get the hotspot to actually work. It starts and I can connect to it but I don't get data transfer. I'm not getting the AT&T authentication popup that you get with the stock ROM and I'm pretty sure this is where the problem is. I have hotspot in my plan and when I flash back to stock it works great. Can you share how you got it working please? TIA
mrhaley30705 said:
Another downside to changing to OPEN in the build.prop is that you lose the secret dialer menus. Try using it and you get null
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What dialer menus are you referring to? I have several that still work: "3845#*850#", "*#*#4636#*#*", "*#06#". Of course if any others were broken I do not know about it.
dizzyman1180 said:
So I thought this is where we can post what we want...General section. Lol but a couple snide posts "yawn". Why post your unwanted, unneeded comments. Just don't read it if you don't have anything constructive to add.
Just sad how much XDA has lost its purpose.
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I agree.
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rzracer2 said:
I completely agree and I use the hotspot feature daily. In the absence of a quick tile I used tasker/sercure settings/tasker app factory to make a very small installable hotspot toggle app and placed the icon on my desktop. Tap it once for on again for off and it works great. If you haven't already found another solution give it a shot.
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Would you be willing to share the script you fashioned?
rzracer2 said:
Oby2, I really like Coudy 1.2 on my D850 but I can't get the hotspot to actually work. It starts and I can connect to it but I don't get data transfer. I'm not getting the AT&T authentication popup that you get with the stock ROM and I'm pretty sure this is where the problem is. I have hotspot in my plan and when I flash back to stock it works great. Can you share how you got it working please? TIA
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Heres what i did:
1. Grab this file
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Sl-yzm6h3FbXE3S1JZQkIwTDg/edit?usp=docslist_api
2. Using your root explorer of choice, backup your current apns-conf.xml which can be found in the /system/etc folder
3. Place the downloaded apns-conf.xml in the /system/etc folder and set permissions rw-r-r
4. Reboot phone
5. Go to apn settings and reset default all the current apns will clear out and you'll be left with the stock apn and working hotspot.
Let me know if you can grab from my drive, I think I set everything up correctly but im not sure. I pretty much copy pasted from the cloudy Q&A thread where i had posted the fix per the rules but it just drowned amongst all the other posts. I'll update my OP in case anyone else needs it.
Many thanks Oby2, with your fix Cloudy is now perfect for my use. I'm looking forward to version 2.x for the D850
Hi. I currently have the Verizon Galaxy S5 on Kit Kat 4.4.4. I'm looking to go to tmo for WiFi calling and other stuff. I'm looking at the One M9, S6, G3. I can't decide. Each has their pros and cons. And making decisions is one of the hardest things for me in my life. I know of the G4.
One thing I'm looking for is to have a darker ui. I don't like Lolipop being so white. I know each phone has themes but not sure if I like much of them. I'm planning to root to get rid of bloat apps and to maybe change the ui look if possible. Except I'm not good at rooting or I need step by step easy info on how. I have rooted before the touch pro 2 I think.
Thanks.
Are you buying outright, or are you going with the payment plan and/or trade-in-your-old-device plan?
If you're buying outright, remember that this opens you up to any unlocked GSM phone like Nexuses or the OnePlus One. No wifi calling though.
If you're going with a payment plan, of the phones you listed, the G3 will have the most custom development support. It's easily rooted, and you can flash custom ROMs like Cyanogenmod, which give you lots of theming options. You'll have to stick with the stock ROM for wifi calling though. I can't speak for stock themes with these phones. Even with the stock ROM though, the G3 will give you the most options, especially with Xposed. It won't be quite as future-proof as the S6 or M9, but it'll still be good for at least couple years before it's "obsolete" rather than simply no longer the latest and greatest.
Hi. Thanks.
I'm switching to tmo and would be paying for the phone per month and then upgrade after half of it is paid off which is when they let you. I would be trading in my S5 as well. So I'm guessing they'd pay off my contract and buy my phone for $? on the trade in.
But it's really hard to pick. I kind of think the G3 is a side grade and the others a small upgrade. Plus when I got my Verizon account last year I first got the G3 but returned it for the S5 because landscape didn't work on the G3.
I like the screen size of the G3 and resolution. Performance I'm sure is fine. But I don't like how flat they made the ui and how is all white.
I've seen some s6 themes and the avengers one seems nice and a purple one too. The space one seems ok too.
I would really like to try a rom to unbloat the phone apps. And change the ui color.
Why no WiFi calling except stock?
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Why no WiFi calling except stock?
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Wifi calling with T-Mobile uses their proprietary app, which only works on certain phones, and only with official T-Mobile firmware.
Root with the S6 is possible, but it'll void the warranty. Granted, rooting usually voids warranties, but Samsung has this "security" feature called KNOX. With the G3 you can root it and install custom recovery, but if necessary, you can revert back to stock and no-one's the wiser. With KNOX though, they'll know you've hacked the phone (if they check), and it's irreversible.
Root isn't necessary to "debloat" though. Deleting system apps is often a bad idea, and doesn't really do you any good. Disabling or "freezing" them is typically a better approach. For example, T-Mobile has this "feature" called Visual Voicemail. It sucks, it's useless, and it gives you constant notifications and reminders to update. Just disable it. Debloating system apps doesn't free up any space; your phone has a certain amount of space already partitioned for "system", and deleting apps from this partition won't free up space for games or apps or photos. Just remember to disable apps one at a time so if something goes wrong you know which app caused the problems and you can undo it.
Thanks. Debloat means less apps running right? That happens when you disable? On my S5 I've disabled several. Does that mean they are truly disabled and never running? They are hidden too and I'm not rooted.
Ok. Sounds like the G3 is the safer better way maybe especially if I plan to trade it in for an upgrade in a year right?
Then there's the One M9
Still trying to decide.
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Anyone please more feedback.
I got the m9. I'm Having issues though. Could someone please help me out? Thank you.
Chrome is laggy when scrolling up and down on web pages.
Everytime im in themes the phone says HTC sense home unexpectedly quit. Every single time.
Phone system update is current as of yesterday.
Thank you all.
I was so sick of incomplete OS, I returned my device after only 3 days of usage..I wanted to keep it, but there was no guarantee of OS update in coming future. Current customized OS by BLU was very frustrating.
Yes, I fill your pain. My phone arrived on Wednesday and there are a number of small issues that add up to frustration. The good news is if root can be obtained these issues can be bypassed.
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Yes, I fill your pain. My phone arrived on Wednesday and there are a number of small issues that add up to frustration. The good news is if root can be obtained these issues can be bypassed.
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If it can be achieved and even I am losing patience with BLU.
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The Gold has gone out of stock and then back in stock while the Grey has remained out of stock the entire time. I called Blu's sales office again(who lied on release day about it being Amazon's fault) and again they said that it was Amazons fault and i needed to contact them to see when the phone would be available. These freakin people, how do you run a company like this?
I'm a phone junkie. I buy a new phone at least once a year and I've had many Android phones starting with the G1. I've rooted every single one of them except the Blu Pure XL. While I would prefer the control that root would give me this is still a good phone and a great value. I guess what I'm trying to say is I agree that Blu's support isn't great but that's the value proposition they're offering. You are not going to get phone hardware as good as this *and* good support at this price. It's just not possible for a company to offer that. I for one, am OK with supporting the phone myself if it means I can get hardware as good as this for half the price of what another company would charge. At the very least we're saving $200 (probably more). Are better support and software updates really worth paying $200+ more?
Yes, the software (Amigo Os) takes a little getting used to. There are some things missing from this build of Android but there are some features it has that standard Android doesn't that I like. Overall the software is not bad but just different. I for one don't need to be exactly the same as everyone else; I'm happy with the phone and expect to use it for a long time even if we never get root.
Not sure if I can live without root. I will install an AT&T Sim in the Pure XL on Saturday and test.
If I had root all the little OS problems will be resolved. Nice hardware but, the software needs work.
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For me, this phone is complete enough and it's awesome for the price. I don't know what you mean by incomplete because it's awesome for me. I installed Go Launcher and it's awesome. 6in, high resolution, comes with 2 cases, great speakers for the price, microsd, otg cable, screen protector, fingerprint sensor, and no lag.
I am on the happy side too. I've gotten mostly used to the settings. I installed Google Now Launcher and it works for me. I got this phone for the dual SIM which is awesome. I would have spent this much for a new contract phone with my carrier phone anyway and probably had less memory and still had to keep carrying a second phone. This has a big display and I haven't even bothered to put my SD card back in yet. GPS has detected my location accurately, so no complaints there. Yes, I know updates are not the most timely from Blu by history. This phone off contract with a carrier if by the manufacturer would be like what $650, $700 easy? So I can't complain. This phone does its job in full for me, and I didn't even have to buy a case as it came with two and a screen protector too and headphones, plus quick charger and small USB cable too.
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Anyone kind of wondering whether or not the Grey edition actually exists? Its now over a month since the 'launch' date, the gold unit has been in and out of stock several times on Amazon with no sign of the Grey aside from the "Temporarily out of stock" label that hasnt changed once. The way that they keep blaming Amazon when its clearly NOT THEIR FAULT really makes me wonder what a company like this is capable of. If the Grey unit never shows, and it was only the Gold all along, I guess i just wouldnt be surprised one bit at this point.
Come to think of it, I dont believe that ive seen any video reviews of this phone that werent the Gold version.
For $349 its a steal. I'm keeping mine even if they don't upgrade it or it never gets root.
I have it set up the way I need and only go into settings to enable tethering.
badMojo69 said:
For $349 its a steal. I'm keeping mine even if they don't upgrade it or it never gets root.
I have it set up the way I need and only go into settings to enable tethering.
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Yep. Phone works great for me. Having root would be ideal but not having it isn't a deal breaker. I would prefer that Android Pay worked but I can live without it (it's more of a novelty item at this point).
Someone please help me I have the pure xl and I can't change my lockscrren wallpaper the be different from my home screen I have tried custom but non allow my fingerprint security option please help
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Someone please help me I have the pure xl and I can't change my lockscrren wallpaper the be different from my home screen I have tried custom but non allow my fingerprint security option please help
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I don't think that's possible unless you use custom lock screen. Is there any custom lock that will support our fingerprint reader ?
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I don't think that's possible unless you use custom lock screen. Is there any custom lock that will support our fingerprint reader ?
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Honestly I've looked for several lockscreens and none support our fingerprint scanner I really hope its possible because I really love this phone but that's important to me
I went through the manual and didn't see how to change default apps. I don't see the option in settings. Also trusted devices options. Anyone know how to access these ?
aim1999x said:
I went through the manual and didn't see how to change default apps. I don't see the option in settings. Also trusted devices options. Anyone know how to access these ?
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Not sure where the menu choice is, but it randomly asks me if I want to set my watch as a trusted device. I'll poke around next time (it might happen when you first pair a device, i'll check that out). For default apps, if you go to the app's settings and scroll down to "Launch by default" and hit "Clear defaults" you can select a new default app and depending on the action it may prompt you to do that.
DrBrick said:
Not sure where the menu choice is, but it randomly asks me if I want to set my watch as a trusted device. I'll poke around next time (it might happen when you first pair a device, i'll check that out). For default apps, if you go to the app's settings and scroll down to "Launch by default" and hit "Clear defaults" you can select a new default app and depending on the action it may prompt you to do that.
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Unfortunately you can't do that for default music and email clients. It says no defaults set. I mostly use google music but when I press music in my car it starts default music app. It is annoying. Same thing for gestures. E and M will start default apps as well. Which is useless to me as I use nine for email because default email doesn't work with office 365 exchange mail.
Hello,
Long time i didn t buy a new phone ( i am still on s9+) and there where a lot of rom for the s9+, but doesn t seem to find them for the s21+.
Where are they ?
I believe more people aren't interested to root, unlock bootloader and create custom roms. One of reasons you lost warranty, secondly you lost google pay, samsung pay, secure folder etc. No Updates OTA. And many more. Yes you can fix some of them by custom kernel or Magisk Hide etc. And android in nowadays is enought good. So are you interested in this?
@Itadiki What are you missing from OneUI? What would you want from a custom ROM that you don't have in the official ones?
As @Nettwerk was saying, nowadays OEM Android is good enough even for most of the people that in the past would run a custom ROM. So custom ROMs make little to no sense. Put the disadvantages on top (like loss of warranty or functionalities) and you get the current situation.
@Nettwerk My s9 was rooted and I still had access to google pay. We don t have samsung pay and never used secure folder but I don t see the reason why it would not work
As For @daniel_loft The same reason I wanted my all other devices rooted. Faster speed, no bloatware, optimization in general, and discover a lot of possibilities I didn t think about with all rooted software than can customize everything.
I can root the device myself, Remove the bloatware, install xposed framework and lots of other tools myself. But I am lazy, and not as knowledgable as the excellent people who spend hours and hours on giving us a way better rom than the stock one.
Yes the loss of warranty is a risk I am willing to take.
Secure folder checks knox. If efuse is trigered than it doesn't work. If I'm not wrong.
daniel_loft said:
@Itadiki What are you missing from OneUI? What would you want from a custom ROM that you don't have in the official ones?
As @Nettwerk was saying, nowadays OEM Android is good enough even for most of the people that in the past would run a custom ROM. So custom ROMs make little to no sense. Put the disadvantages on top (like loss of warranty or functionalities) and you get the current situation.
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Custom roms are always a good option , they lead to many innovations that with time and popular demand are later integrated in official rom , my last two phone i have not rooted them , i have not missed a thing from not doing it either.
If you root you will miss out in Samsung pay or google pay but of course it may not be important to everyone
Itadiki said:
Hello,
Long time i didn t buy a new phone ( i am still on s9+) and there where a lot of rom for the s9+, but doesn t seem to find them for the s21+.
Where are they ?
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Hi
I found one .
Hi,
there is a very good one for S21 Ultra -> https://drketanrom.com/samsung-s21ultra
TeLMiT92 said:
Hi,
there is a very good one for S21 Ultra -> https://drketanrom.com/samsung-s21ultra
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yes I saw it ... but not for S21+ unfortunately
daniel_loft said:
@Itadiki What are you missing from OneUI? What would you want from a custom ROM that you don't have in the official ones?
It's not what's missing...it's what I *want* missing....I really want to get rid of the Bloat...nd fix a couple of issues that are plaguing my current s10+ (like the fact that any streaming is interrupted if *any* other resident program is in front of it, and needs an update....my Music cuts out when Waze needs to check in, for example (every 5 minutes).... and T-Mobile swears there is nothing wrong. (...then why did it start doing this *after* a forced Update that they refuse to roll-back?)
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I could go on...but it's not additional functionality...it's control of my device (If I wanted to be told how to use my phone...I'd get an iPhone *ecccchh*)
Itadiki said:
Hello,
Long time i didn t buy a new phone ( i am still on s9+) and there where a lot of rom for the s9+, but doesn t seem to find them for the s21+.
Where are they ?
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I know what you mean.
I remember back in the day when I had an HTC One X (still my favourite phone even though I got an s21) then later the M8 and there were tons of roms and mods available from a range of creators. My fav rom was the Viper range which had tons of features like tap to wake and customisable themes which didn't appear on official android for years and had OTA updates which got you on the latest android version before official release.
But I think, as said above, nowadays android has progressed to the point that you don't need to root to get roms with missing features and the likes of Samsung update their phones much faster than they used to. Even I haven't installed a custom rom since the S8 (the S6 & One M9 were the last ones I rooted. And the M9 was only to remove htc bloatware). And though rooting is still useful for removing baked in apps you don't need (Samsung, I'm looking at you!) but in general it's not needed anymore. Especially since manufacturers seem to have got 'inspiration' (interpret that as you will) from some of the fantastic indipendent developers found on sites like XDA.
The other problem is that these days more people use their phones for banking and paying in store and these functions are blocked on rooted phoned.
It is a shame though, the creativity, diversity of mods and general level of knowledge that was once found here back then was amazing.
That's not to say there isn't great talent still here, there is, simply back then there were much more developers creating full roms.
FerretPD said:
I could go on...but it's not additional functionality...it's control of my device (If I wanted to be told how to use my phone...I'd get an iPhone *ecccchh*)
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Totally agree with you here.
This was once a clear distinction between android and iPhone. These days they are all trying to suck you into their own eco system.
What's funny is that on my Huawei Nova 5t I had much more control of an apps access to my data and no apps were 'baked in' like Samsung pay etc. We should not have to root a phone we own to remove apps we don't want or make changes to the functionality of a phone, especially after we have paid hundreds of £/$ or more for.
i like root for Root level Backup, Host File level adblocking see wakelocks, change CPU/GPU underclock/overclock/undervolt.. And to keep upgrading my phone to new versions long after the manufacturer stops providing updates.
I am looking at a S22.. though if no community support then maybe not..
Sage said:
i like root for Root level Backup, Host File level adblocking see wakelocks, change CPU/GPU underclock/overclock/undervolt.. And to keep upgrading my phone to new versions long after the manufacturer stops providing updates.
I am looking at a S22.. though if no community support then maybe not..
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unless u buy an exynos s21, u'll be able to root and do whatever... but if u buy a qualcomm one., u wont be able to root, unless u pay... i suggest to stay away from samsung (qualcomm) if u're into the rooting scene
efebe said:
unless u buy an exynos s21, u'll be able to root and do whatever... but if u buy a qualcomm one., u wont be able to root, unless u pay... i suggest to stay away from samsung (qualcomm) if u're into the rooting scene
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i avoid snapdragon like plague for some years already since the inability to root/titanium backup. as long as the phone can't be rooted, i don't buy it, even exypnos is hotter slower dumber etc but the freedom to block ads and freeze/unfreeze/backup app is totally unmatched. also nowadays there's knoxpatch module so i can pretty much use any samsung secured function (just lack samsung pay/pass)