Recently I've noticed, that by p20 has never got more than 1.9GB of free RAM. I never leave any apps open and usually close them as soon as I stop using them. Anyone else encounter this?
I'm on official emui9
Amphibius2 said:
Recently I've noticed, that by p20 has never got more than 1.9GB of free RAM. I never leave any apps open and usually close them as soon as I stop using them. Anyone else encounter this?
I'm on official emui9
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Android has a different Ram-Managment than PCs. Free Ram is wasted Ram.
AndroidPit:
"This idea that RAM inside Android needs to be cleared manually is a misconception. Emptied RAM would mean that you need to constantly relaunch apps. This would cost time and power, and reduce battery life."
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https://www.androidpit.com/ram-management-on-android
Greetings!
Jan Philipp said:
Android has a different Ram-Managment than PCs. Free Ram is wasted Ram.
AndroidPit:
https://www.androidpit.com/ram-management-on-android
Greetings!
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Thanks for the explanation, I'm a bit familiar with that, but I was just wondering because none of my other Huawei/Honor phones use this much RAM when not really doing something in the foreground
Amphibius2 said:
Thanks for the explanation, I'm a bit familiar with that, but I was just wondering because none of my other Huawei/Honor phones use this much RAM when not really doing something in the foreground
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Has any of your other devices AI? Maybe it "thinks" it's necessary to use/reserve this amount of RAM?
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Has any of your other devices AI? Maybe it "thinks" it's necessary to use/reserve this amount of RAM?
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Good question, I don't really know. The only Huawei/Honor device I've got right now is the Honor 8x. I know that it's got the AI camera and everything but not if there's more. RAM with that phone is always between 2 GB and 2.4GB free with my usual usage (and emui9)
I'm not bothered by having less free RAM as the experience is still very fluid, snappy and fast.
I'm just wondering
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When entering any app that tells you about the phone, it only reports my lumia of having 363mb of ram total.
Why? Is some of it dedicated to the system or something?
No phone ever has the full RAM available for applications, some of it is always reserved for the OS.
Tushaar Talwar said:
No phone ever has the full RAM available for applications, some of it is always reserved for the OS.
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Yea haha, thats what I thought. Thanks
I have had My sprint lg g flex 2 , for 3 days now....and I've been using it non stop. I was expecting a smooth beautiful phone...with the Qualcomm 810 but I can't even listen to Spotify and surf chrome without extreme lag, or an app closing out. The lag will come and go....and its actully lagging as i write this....i have nothing open.....I think its mostly a ram problem...and I'm so confused because they say the g flex 32 GB variants have 3 gbs of ram....mine is 32gbs....but I have 2....anyway...I've attached a video for proof of the lag...I've updated everything and everysthinga stock with about 20 apps installed....this is very frustrating because I didn't even have this much lag coming from my g2 and that's 2 years older..so I would love it if someone could get me some sort of help!
Link to lag video: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1vU6325yeNnWmJacHlESFo0dUU/edit?usp=docslist_api
Chrome was my problem.
Left it and the overall experience is better.
Not perfect though.
erhnam said:
Chrome was my problem.
Left it and the overall experience is better.
Not perfect though.
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Lol definitely not chrome, it's my phone.... It could be a combination of Spotify, and Skype, and Spotify would is shut off it's mostly a ram problem
It's probably memory leaks. I changed my thermal throttling and I still have that happening. It's a known issue in 5.0. We will probably have to wait until we get 5.1 to see real relief. Often I am forced to restart my phone because it wont respond because it seemingly can't load anything else into RAM.
I'm pretty sure this is a ram issue. I've never experienced that with my 3gb model. Although the lag you're experiencing is what I had with my S4 with android 5.0 and it all got fixed when I upgraded to 5.1.
uh60james said:
It's probably memory leaks. I changed my thermal throttling and I still have that happening. It's a known issue in 5.0. We will probably have to wait until we get 5.1 to see real relief. Often I am forced to restart my phone because it wont respond because it seemingly can't load anything else into RAM.
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Ahhhhhh okayyy ...that helps I looked it up.....and I see that memory leaks are a common glitch in 5.0x other than waiting for sprint to push out 5.1x , is there any fix?
lowther_hall said:
Ahhhhhh okayyy ...that helps I looked it up.....and I see that memory leaks are a common glitch in 5.0x other than waiting for sprint to push out 5.1x , is there any fix?
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Unfortunately it looks like the best method requires Xposed which we can't install right now. You could try an app that will kill apps that are using a lot of memory. I don't have any recommendations though since I'm not currently using one but may end up trying it out soon since I'm getting tired of restarting my phone.
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Unfortunately it looks like the best method requires Xposed which we can't install right now. You could try an app that will kill apps that are using a lot of memory. I don't have any recommendations though since I'm not currently using one but may end up trying it out soon since I'm getting tired of restarting my phone.
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I'm actually using clean master atm...using the widget for a fast ram fix
lowther_hall said:
I'm actually using clean master atm...using the widget for a fast ram fix
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Does it seem to help?
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Does it seem to help?
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Hardly, it makes it useable though... Also the thing about xsposed, how come we can't use it, I know there is a beta for a lollipop? PS..... regardless I can't root because I'm on a lease with Sprint, can't risk, loosing the warranty ?
lowther_hall said:
Hardly, it makes it useable though... Also the thing about xsposed, how come we can't use it, I know there is a beta for a lollipop? PS..... regardless I can't root because I'm on a lease with Sprint, can't risk, loosing the warranty
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Currently there isn't a way to install the framework without an unlocked bootloader. It's possible that could change at some point but for now it's not possible.
uh60james said:
Currently there isn't a way to install the framework without an unlocked bootloader. It's possible that could change at some point but for now it's not possible.
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I was fine on my g2 installing xsposed on 5.0, but I did have an unlocked bootloader, I know there's a root method for the Flex 2, but I guess there's no boot unlock?
lowther_hall said:
Ahhhhhh okayyy ...that helps I looked it up.....and I see that memory leaks are a common glitch in 5.0x other than waiting for sprint to push out 5.1x , is there any fix?
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On my S4 with 5.0 it helped to run the app Greenify with root access. I would have it hibernate apps I didn't want to have taking resources in the background. Made a big difference for me. Even without the xposed features it helped a lot.
probaina said:
On my S4 with 5.0 it helped to run the app Greenify with root access. I would have it hibernate apps I didn't want to have taking resources in the background. Made a big difference for me. Even without the xposed features it helped a lot.
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I heard about greenify, I downloaded it about 3 hours ago, I'm not using it with root access but my phone hasn't been slow since
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
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mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
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Xz dual 7.1.1
mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
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well mine is even worst i noticed that my phone is using alot of ram no mather what rom i use...i tried almost every solution and i always get very little free ram and i installed same apps for years and i didnt have sutch problem on xperia Z,Z2,Z5 series...i have to restart my phone almost everyday so i can get fluid experience...really dont know why does ram go so high and its not stoping until restart... very wierd must say. XZ F8331
cocagenda2 said:
well mine is even worst i noticed that my phone is using alot of ram no mather what rom i use...i tried almost every solution and i always get very little free ram and i installed same apps for years and i didnt have sutch problem on xperia Z,Z2,Z5 series...i have to restart my phone almost everyday so i can get fluid experience...really dont know why does ram go so high and its not stoping until restart... very wierd must say. XZ F8331
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no wrong place.
open developper section by clicking in built number 10 times and open running services
karrouma said:
no wrong place.
open developper section by clicking in built number 10 times and open running services
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yea ur right i noticed that ...here is another picture it seems fine here.
cocagenda2 said:
yea ur right i noticed that ...here is another picture it seems fine here.
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1. 1free gb of ram is very good
well, my case is worst, at least i have tested on 3 phone atm, same regional. Whatever i do, my used RAM constantly stay at 2.5GB RAM.
I used stock ROM btw. F8332 model
I debloated my phone, and this is my RAM usage.
But understand this panel not shown really ram use in an android phone.
Run this from cmd or terminal:
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adb shell cat /proc/meminfo
You can see only 112 MB free RAM available. this is normal for android (not linux and unix-like OS). for fast start up apps and switch between apps faster, android save data in RAM as cache.
for AOSP or Nexus phones (pure android rom) you can have more ram, but not above 400-450 MB ram (we talk about real RAM usage not you can see inside Settings app)
here is my mem test...it looks weird to me that it says MemFree is around 80mb but MemAvailable is 800+mb...maybe someone to explain a bit...thanks in advance
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
even recording video is stuttering.. I don't know whether this is related to software bugs or really impacted from limitation of RAM capacity (only 3GB)
fluffygutss said:
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
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I have the same comment exactly....
Yep video stuttering is also appalling I'm also having a lot of problems with typing I can no longer use Swipe typing as this Lags out and the words don't appear.
I've made a post on the support forum on the Sony website so here's hoping they actually see it and reply.
GenomeX said:
I debloated my phone, and this is my RAM usage.
But understand this panel not shown really ram use in an android phone.
Run this from cmd or terminal:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/meminfo
You can see only 112 MB free RAM available. this is normal for android (not linux and unix-like OS). for fast start up apps and switch between apps faster, android save data in RAM as cache.
for AOSP or Nexus phones (pure android rom) you can have more ram, but not above 400-450 MB ram (we talk about real RAM usage not you can see inside Settings app)
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how did you debloat your phone?
does it require root?
eddieleon7pc said:
how did you debloat your phone?
does it require root?
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root my device
Remove unnecessary apps with uninstaller apps like "sd maid"
You can find my list here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/huge-bloatware-list-xperia-xz-detailes-t3578758
mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
i.imgur.[]com/AhTCTxw.png
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Mine was 3gb ram but after the update became 300 ram free left
Hi
I also have same issue. It came around 2-3 weeks ago and same problem is in my spouses Z5 Compact. In both phones it first appears pretty much same time. Is there some kind update that Sony hasn't inform about..?
fluffygutss said:
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
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i have the same experience and it is driving me crazy
It's pretty bad here also, you can check the original Xperia XZ support forums on Sony support website. It's pretty much same situation there also.
Seems like a poorly optimised 7.1.1 update
chawlasrijan said:
It's pretty bad here also, you can check the original Xperia XZ support forums on Sony support website. It's pretty much same situation there also.
Seems like a poorly optimised 7.1.1 update
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My wife has the same Problem.
Honor 6x which i purchased a month back was absolutely working smooth in marshmallow.
I did a update to Nougat Emui 5...mobile would work fine & very smooth for some hours after a reboot or clear ram frequently. If we dont clear ram/reboot & use it for more than a day....It just dont...hangs, lags, stutters
Funny part is...it holds apps which i opened almost 7/8 hours ago from ram(i would have opened 8-9 apps easily after opening that app)
It seems emui has some memory management issues which isn't killing very old processes/apps
In developer options...If we set background processes limited to 4....voila!!! it goes smooth again...as old processes are killed
so my question here is ....can we limit background processes to 8-10...as 4 in developer options is so less
if not....any workaround to fix this.....I remember following d above mentioned method in my old galaxy s2, friend's redmi 1s....i feel ashamed to do it my 6x in 2017...c'mon Honor !!!
Y doesn't it kill apps/processes which are too old and allow everything to run in background....Unless & until we open a heavy memory demanding app like a game...it wont kill old processes running in background....WEIRD !!!
Please refrain from clearing apps from RAM. They will just resurrect and come back more RAM hungry.
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sreekantt said:
Honor 6x which i purchased a month back was absolutely working smooth in marshmallow.
I did a update to Nougat Emui 5...mobile would work fine & very smooth for some hours after a reboot or clear ram frequently. If we dont clear ram/reboot & use it for more than a day....It just dont...hangs, lags, stutters
Funny part is...it holds apps which i opened almost 7/8 hours ago from ram(i would have opened 8-9 apps easily after opening that app)
It seems emui has some memory management issues which isn't killing very old processes/apps
In developer options...If we set background processes limited to 4....voila!!! it goes smooth again...as old processes are killed
so my question here is ....can we limit background processes to 8-10...as 4 in developer options is so less
if not....any workaround to fix this.....I remember following d above mentioned method in my old galaxy s2, friend's redmi 1s....i feel ashamed to do it my 6x in 2017...c'mon Honor !!!
Y doesn't it kill apps/processes which are too old and allow everything to run in background....Unless & until we open a heavy memory demanding app like a game...it wont kill old processes running in background....WEIRD !!!
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The phone does have an option in battery optimization to close apps when screen is off. You can use it
adriansticoid said:
Please refrain from clearing apps from RAM. They will just resurrect and come back more RAM hungry.
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oae08 said:
The phone does have an option in battery optimization to close apps when screen is off. You can use it
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/guide-battery-life-nougat-t3623989 second post
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Thats d whole point of d post I do know...we shouldn't clear ram...i dont have that habit too....thats causing the hangs....android shouldn't work that way...ri8 ?...EMUI isn't killing apps automatically if ram is needed/demanded for another process. Hence the stuttering
regarding the lock screen suggestion- How is it different from kicking apps out of ram memory forcibly.....Android should do it automatically depending on the demand of ram by other apps.,....But it isn't doing ...
sreekantt said:
Thats d whole point of d post I do know...we shouldn't clear ram...i dont have that habit too....thats causing the hangs....android shouldn't work that way...ri8 ?...EMUI isn't killing apps automatically if ram is needed/demanded for another process. Hence the stuttering
regarding the lock screen suggestion- How is it different from kicking apps out of ram memory forcibly.....Android should do it automatically depending on the demand of ram by other apps.,....But it isn't doing ...
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Well you asked for a solution. I dont have any hangs. Maybe try a factory reset.
sreekantt said:
Thats d whole point of d post I do know...we shouldn't clear ram...i dont have that habit too....thats causing the hangs....android shouldn't work that way...ri8 ?...EMUI isn't killing apps automatically if ram is needed/demanded for another process. Hence the stuttering
regarding the lock screen suggestion- How is it different from kicking apps out of ram memory forcibly.....Android should do it automatically depending on the demand of ram by other apps.,....But it isn't doing ...
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To be honest I didn't have this problem in EMUI 5.
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adriansticoid said:
To be honest I didn't have this problem in EMUI 5.
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I did also an update to 7.0.
Full Low Level format of phone.
No Problem at all. Everything runs perfect. Battery stands as long as in 6.0.
Niche features on Nougat. At the moment i could not see any problems here so long.
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To be honest I didn't have this problem in EMUI 5.
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Well you asked for a solution. I dont have any hangs. Maybe try a factory reset.
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GalaxyKnight said:
I did also an update to 7.0.
Full Low Level format of phone.
No Problem at all. Everything runs perfect. Battery stands as long as in 6.0.
Niche features on Nougat. At the moment i could not see any problems here so long.
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If u guys clear ram frequently or reboot phone(atleast once in a day).. There wont be a proble.. But android shouldn't work dat way...ri8??
sreekantt said:
If u guys clear ram frequently or reboot phone(atleast once in a day).. There wont be a proble.. But android shouldn't work dat way...ri8??
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It works this way only. Nit only Android but all OS works the same way. It will keep the app/process in memory and once needed they will be in action quickly. Closing app will cause more ram when they are launched again
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It works this way only. Nit only Android but all OS works the same way. It will keep the app/process in memory and once needed they will be in action quickly. Closing app will cause more ram when they are launched again
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U didn't get my point bro... I'm saying d same thing.. But emui is keeping too many apps than a normal device in background...
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So 8 - 9 apps isn't too mutch opened in RAM, except games or Chrome with 30 pages. And if u play games and use "heavy ram usage apps" is better for u cleared ram manually
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But its keeping almost 10-11 apps in memory & not allotting suffecient ram to newly opened apps..
I hope there is some way to limit keeping apps in ram to 8..as we can only limit upto 4 in dev options... Hope someway we can restrict upto 8
sreekantt said:
But its keeping almost 10-11 apps in memory & not allotting suffecient ram to newly opened apps..
I hope there is some way to limit keeping apps in ram to 8..as we can only limit upto 4 in dev options... Hope someway we can restrict upto 8
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The only plausible solution now is to reboot your phone every 24 hrs.
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The only plausible solution now is to reboot your phone every 24 hrs.
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yes...i have restricted background apps to 4...its smooth...
reason i posted this here because....i have reported this to emui team....if u guys also report....they would look into it..
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yes...i have restricted background apps to 4...its smooth...
reason i posted this here because....i have reported this to emui team....if u guys also report....they would look into it..
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Let's hope so.
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sreekantt said:
U didn't get my point bro... I'm saying d same thing.. But emui is keeping too many apps than a normal device in background...
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Emui is known for its aggressive killing of app in background. You can have 20 apps stored in ram and if you launch ine more then the 1sr app will be killed. Thats hiw EMUI works
Shashank u can decice how many apps to runned in the background . Probably the smart power 4.0 mean about the battery manager.
Howdy! Is anybody experiencing the same problem? I just bought my XZ and I've been using it for like 3 days. I didnt install any heavy games or apps, just some basic ones. But my phone is using too much memory, I only got about 200-300mb left, compared to ~700mb free on the first day. Though I'm not experiencing considerable lagging. It's just that I find it weird since I found other people having up to 1GB free.
Is this common issue or just mine? Please help me. Thank you all!
Btw, does AVG Protection prove useful in terms of ram boosting or so? Or should I just disable it?
Mine is on Oreo 8.0.0, build number: 41.3.A.2.99
Blooderman said:
Howdy! Is anybody experiencing the same problem? I just bought my XZ and I've been using it for like 3 days. I didnt install any heavy games or apps, just some basic ones. But my phone is using too much memory, I only got about 200-300mb left, compared to ~700mb free on the first day. Though I'm not experiencing considerable lagging. It's just that I find it weird since I found other people having up to 1GB free.
Is this common issue or just mine? Please help me. Thank you all!
Btw, does AVG Protection prove useful in terms of ram boosting or so? Or should I just disable it?
Mine is on Oreo 8.0.0, build number: 41.3.A.2.99
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These are the whole background processes
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These are the whole background processes
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Damn i was so dumb that i didnt even realize that. Thanks a lot bro. Just checked my device on CPU-Z to find my available memory up to more than 1gb.