Windows phone 7 app reporting only 363mb total ram? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When entering any app that tells you about the phone, it only reports my lumia of having 363mb of ram total.
Why? Is some of it dedicated to the system or something?

No phone ever has the full RAM available for applications, some of it is always reserved for the OS.

Tushaar Talwar said:
No phone ever has the full RAM available for applications, some of it is always reserved for the OS.
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Yea haha, thats what I thought. Thanks

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About RAM Consumption

Hello everyone..
This is my first post to nexus 5 thread. And i m totally noob in nexus 5. so please understand me.
I purchased nexus 5 16 GB yesterday. And after using it 1day , my ram consumption is around 890 mb.
So is it usual RAM consumption??
If not tell me some ram optimization app ...
Thanks in advance..
LetJect said:
Hello everyone..
This is my first post to nexus 5 thread. And i m totally noob in nexus 5. so please understand me.
I purchased nexus 5 16 GB yesterday. And after using it 1day , my ram consumption is around 890 mb.
So is it usual RAM consumption??
If not tell me some ram optimization app ...
Thanks in advance..
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That doesn't sound crazy to me. It depends what apps you've installed - for example, Viber, WhatsApp, Skype among many other apps will remain in memory even when "closed". I've had my phone for about a week or 2 and it runs at about 900mb used and 900mb free. People here will often tell you to not get too hung up on memory usage - that's what it's there for.
I wouldn't install any memory management apps. If you are really worried I would root the phone and use Greenify to explicitly control any apps that you don't want to run in the background.
surrealjam said:
That doesn't sound crazy to me. It depends what apps you've installed - for example, Viber, WhatsApp, Skype among many other apps will remain in memory even when "closed". I've had my phone for about a week or 2 and it runs at about 900mb used and 900mb free. People here will often tell you to not get too hung up on memory usage - that's what it's there for.
I wouldn't install any memory management apps. If you are really worried I would root the phone and use Greenify to explicitly control any apps that you don't want to run in the background.
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Actually i m not worrying about it because 2GB IS more than enough ram..
Thanks..
It's the old addage "unused RAM is wasted RAM" and it is actually true. If your RAM is always FULL though, android should be killing things off as they are used less so it should always run optimally. Every now and again, you get a bad app that needs to be force closed as it has a memory leak. I alwo think a reboot every now and again is a good practice for any system using RAM
LetJect said:
This is my first post to nexus 5 thread. And i m totally noob in nexus 5...I purchased nexus 5 16 GB yesterday...
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Welcome, and good luck with the new phone.
PhilipTD said:
Welcome, and good luck with the new phone.
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Thanks bro.
U know how to connect pen drive to our phone
LetJect said:
Thanks bro.
U know how to connect pen drive to our phone
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Google search: xda nexus 5 pen drive
LetJect said:
Thanks bro.
U know how to connect pen drive to our phone
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Check these links out:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/LJeoF7AK1zU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIoCiIvztwE
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LetJect said:
Hello everyone..
This is my first post to nexus 5 thread. And i m totally noob in nexus 5. so please understand me.
I purchased nexus 5 16 GB yesterday. And after using it 1day , my ram consumption is around 890 mb.
So is it usual RAM consumption??
If not tell me some ram optimization app ...
Thanks in advance..
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Seems normal, to put it in perspective touchwiz uses like 1.1GB of RAM without running any apps, or at least my buddy says so on his s4 so don't nail me if i am wrong
Use an USB-OTG cable. AFAIK using that needs a custom kernel. Congrats for your new phone
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RAM App

Is there a App where you can see which App use the most RAM?
I know that you can see it in settings but maybe there is something better.
SWTR said:
Is there a App where you can see which App use the most RAM?
I know that you can see it in settings but maybe there is something better.
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Better how? It shows you everything you need to know in settings
rootSU said:
Better how? It shows you everything you need to know in settings
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but I want to see which app does make the memory leak
SWTR said:
but I want to see which app does make the memory leak
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I've still not seen any evidence that a memory leak exists. But if you understand what a memory leak is, then perhaps you will be able to identify it in settings.
When an app is opened, an app will grab x amount of RAM. When it is closed, it will release the RAM. Typically a memory leak is when the app is closed, it does not release the RAM so when it is opened again, it has x*2 RAM, then closed and opened again x*3 RAM.. Memory leak can also be seen without closing apps, when the app just grabs more RAM for new commands/functions etc, and again - never releases it.
So just look for which apps are using a LOT of RAM.
Do you find anything?..
This is not really normal..
SWTR said:
This is not really normal..
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Your system is using a lot so perhaps that is the memory leak people are referring to. I never had this. Most RAM should be apps. I wouldn't expect any other apps could breakdown what "system" means though.
I use an app called System Panel. It shows you pretty much all the info for everything that's running on your phone.
rootSU said:
I've still not seen any evidence that a memory leak exists. But if you understand what a memory leak is, then perhaps you will be able to identify it in settings.
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I had it once. The infamous system using 1GB+ of RAM and apps restarting. I only had it once though.

Question about XZ Dual's RAM usage in 7.1.1

Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
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mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
i.imgur.[]com/AhTCTxw.png
I'm sorry im new here and i cannot post link, please remove []
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Xz dual 7.1.1
mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
i.imgur.[]com/AhTCTxw.png
I'm sorry im new here and i cannot post link, please remove []
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well mine is even worst i noticed that my phone is using alot of ram no mather what rom i use...i tried almost every solution and i always get very little free ram and i installed same apps for years and i didnt have sutch problem on xperia Z,Z2,Z5 series...i have to restart my phone almost everyday so i can get fluid experience...really dont know why does ram go so high and its not stoping until restart... very wierd must say. XZ F8331
cocagenda2 said:
well mine is even worst i noticed that my phone is using alot of ram no mather what rom i use...i tried almost every solution and i always get very little free ram and i installed same apps for years and i didnt have sutch problem on xperia Z,Z2,Z5 series...i have to restart my phone almost everyday so i can get fluid experience...really dont know why does ram go so high and its not stoping until restart... very wierd must say. XZ F8331
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no wrong place.
open developper section by clicking in built number 10 times and open running services
karrouma said:
no wrong place.
open developper section by clicking in built number 10 times and open running services
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yea ur right i noticed that ...here is another picture it seems fine here.
cocagenda2 said:
yea ur right i noticed that ...here is another picture it seems fine here.
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1. 1free gb of ram is very good
well, my case is worst, at least i have tested on 3 phone atm, same regional. Whatever i do, my used RAM constantly stay at 2.5GB RAM.
I used stock ROM btw. F8332 model
I debloated my phone, and this is my RAM usage.
But understand this panel not shown really ram use in an android phone.
Run this from cmd or terminal:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/meminfo
You can see only 112 MB free RAM available. this is normal for android (not linux and unix-like OS). for fast start up apps and switch between apps faster, android save data in RAM as cache.
for AOSP or Nexus phones (pure android rom) you can have more ram, but not above 400-450 MB ram (we talk about real RAM usage not you can see inside Settings app)
here is my mem test...it looks weird to me that it says MemFree is around 80mb but MemAvailable is 800+mb...maybe someone to explain a bit...thanks in advance
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
even recording video is stuttering.. I don't know whether this is related to software bugs or really impacted from limitation of RAM capacity (only 3GB)
fluffygutss said:
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
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I have the same comment exactly....
Yep video stuttering is also appalling I'm also having a lot of problems with typing I can no longer use Swipe typing as this Lags out and the words don't appear.
I've made a post on the support forum on the Sony website so here's hoping they actually see it and reply.
GenomeX said:
I debloated my phone, and this is my RAM usage.
But understand this panel not shown really ram use in an android phone.
Run this from cmd or terminal:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/meminfo
You can see only 112 MB free RAM available. this is normal for android (not linux and unix-like OS). for fast start up apps and switch between apps faster, android save data in RAM as cache.
for AOSP or Nexus phones (pure android rom) you can have more ram, but not above 400-450 MB ram (we talk about real RAM usage not you can see inside Settings app)
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how did you debloat your phone?
does it require root?
eddieleon7pc said:
how did you debloat your phone?
does it require root?
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root my device
Remove unnecessary apps with uninstaller apps like "sd maid"
You can find my list here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/huge-bloatware-list-xperia-xz-detailes-t3578758
mymoneyad said:
Guys, I have noticed that after my XZ update to 7.1.1, RAM consume is really high like this. It's is used to be 1.5->1.7GB only, is there any thing wrong with my phone?
i.imgur.[]com/QpUVZUX.png
i.imgur.[]com/AhTCTxw.png
I'm sorry im new here and i cannot post link, please remove []
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Mine was 3gb ram but after the update became 300 ram free left
Hi
I also have same issue. It came around 2-3 weeks ago and same problem is in my spouses Z5 Compact. In both phones it first appears pretty much same time. Is there some kind update that Sony hasn't inform about..?
fluffygutss said:
Yep since the upgrade I am having an absolutely shocking time with mine. Dual sim XZ.
Constantly chugging, have to wait 5 seconds to switch windows, rebooting fixes it for about 10 minutes. Closing everything, have uninstalled a bunch of apps but this is horrible - unusable!
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i have the same experience and it is driving me crazy
It's pretty bad here also, you can check the original Xperia XZ support forums on Sony support website. It's pretty much same situation there also.
Seems like a poorly optimised 7.1.1 update
chawlasrijan said:
It's pretty bad here also, you can check the original Xperia XZ support forums on Sony support website. It's pretty much same situation there also.
Seems like a poorly optimised 7.1.1 update
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My wife has the same Problem.

Honor 6x Hangs in Nougat

Honor 6x which i purchased a month back was absolutely working smooth in marshmallow.
I did a update to Nougat Emui 5...mobile would work fine & very smooth for some hours after a reboot or clear ram frequently. If we dont clear ram/reboot & use it for more than a day....It just dont...hangs, lags, stutters
Funny part is...it holds apps which i opened almost 7/8 hours ago from ram(i would have opened 8-9 apps easily after opening that app)
It seems emui has some memory management issues which isn't killing very old processes/apps
In developer options...If we set background processes limited to 4....voila!!! it goes smooth again...as old processes are killed
so my question here is ....can we limit background processes to 8-10...as 4 in developer options is so less
if not....any workaround to fix this.....I remember following d above mentioned method in my old galaxy s2, friend's redmi 1s....i feel ashamed to do it my 6x in 2017...c'mon Honor !!!
Y doesn't it kill apps/processes which are too old and allow everything to run in background....Unless & until we open a heavy memory demanding app like a game...it wont kill old processes running in background....WEIRD !!!
Please refrain from clearing apps from RAM. They will just resurrect and come back more RAM hungry.
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sreekantt said:
Honor 6x which i purchased a month back was absolutely working smooth in marshmallow.
I did a update to Nougat Emui 5...mobile would work fine & very smooth for some hours after a reboot or clear ram frequently. If we dont clear ram/reboot & use it for more than a day....It just dont...hangs, lags, stutters
Funny part is...it holds apps which i opened almost 7/8 hours ago from ram(i would have opened 8-9 apps easily after opening that app)
It seems emui has some memory management issues which isn't killing very old processes/apps
In developer options...If we set background processes limited to 4....voila!!! it goes smooth again...as old processes are killed
so my question here is ....can we limit background processes to 8-10...as 4 in developer options is so less
if not....any workaround to fix this.....I remember following d above mentioned method in my old galaxy s2, friend's redmi 1s....i feel ashamed to do it my 6x in 2017...c'mon Honor !!!
Y doesn't it kill apps/processes which are too old and allow everything to run in background....Unless & until we open a heavy memory demanding app like a game...it wont kill old processes running in background....WEIRD !!!
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The phone does have an option in battery optimization to close apps when screen is off. You can use it
adriansticoid said:
Please refrain from clearing apps from RAM. They will just resurrect and come back more RAM hungry.
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oae08 said:
The phone does have an option in battery optimization to close apps when screen is off. You can use it
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Rommco05 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/guide-battery-life-nougat-t3623989 second post
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Thats d whole point of d post I do know...we shouldn't clear ram...i dont have that habit too....thats causing the hangs....android shouldn't work that way...ri8 ?...EMUI isn't killing apps automatically if ram is needed/demanded for another process. Hence the stuttering
regarding the lock screen suggestion- How is it different from kicking apps out of ram memory forcibly.....Android should do it automatically depending on the demand of ram by other apps.,....But it isn't doing ...
sreekantt said:
Thats d whole point of d post I do know...we shouldn't clear ram...i dont have that habit too....thats causing the hangs....android shouldn't work that way...ri8 ?...EMUI isn't killing apps automatically if ram is needed/demanded for another process. Hence the stuttering
regarding the lock screen suggestion- How is it different from kicking apps out of ram memory forcibly.....Android should do it automatically depending on the demand of ram by other apps.,....But it isn't doing ...
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Well you asked for a solution. I dont have any hangs. Maybe try a factory reset.
sreekantt said:
Thats d whole point of d post I do know...we shouldn't clear ram...i dont have that habit too....thats causing the hangs....android shouldn't work that way...ri8 ?...EMUI isn't killing apps automatically if ram is needed/demanded for another process. Hence the stuttering
regarding the lock screen suggestion- How is it different from kicking apps out of ram memory forcibly.....Android should do it automatically depending on the demand of ram by other apps.,....But it isn't doing ...
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To be honest I didn't have this problem in EMUI 5.
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adriansticoid said:
To be honest I didn't have this problem in EMUI 5.
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I did also an update to 7.0.
Full Low Level format of phone.
No Problem at all. Everything runs perfect. Battery stands as long as in 6.0.
Niche features on Nougat. At the moment i could not see any problems here so long.
adriansticoid said:
To be honest I didn't have this problem in EMUI 5.
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oae08 said:
Well you asked for a solution. I dont have any hangs. Maybe try a factory reset.
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GalaxyKnight said:
I did also an update to 7.0.
Full Low Level format of phone.
No Problem at all. Everything runs perfect. Battery stands as long as in 6.0.
Niche features on Nougat. At the moment i could not see any problems here so long.
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If u guys clear ram frequently or reboot phone(atleast once in a day).. There wont be a proble.. But android shouldn't work dat way...ri8??
sreekantt said:
If u guys clear ram frequently or reboot phone(atleast once in a day).. There wont be a proble.. But android shouldn't work dat way...ri8??
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It works this way only. Nit only Android but all OS works the same way. It will keep the app/process in memory and once needed they will be in action quickly. Closing app will cause more ram when they are launched again
shashank1320 said:
It works this way only. Nit only Android but all OS works the same way. It will keep the app/process in memory and once needed they will be in action quickly. Closing app will cause more ram when they are launched again
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U didn't get my point bro... I'm saying d same thing.. But emui is keeping too many apps than a normal device in background...
Rommco05 said:
So 8 - 9 apps isn't too mutch opened in RAM, except games or Chrome with 30 pages. And if u play games and use "heavy ram usage apps" is better for u cleared ram manually
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But its keeping almost 10-11 apps in memory & not allotting suffecient ram to newly opened apps..
I hope there is some way to limit keeping apps in ram to 8..as we can only limit upto 4 in dev options... Hope someway we can restrict upto 8
sreekantt said:
But its keeping almost 10-11 apps in memory & not allotting suffecient ram to newly opened apps..
I hope there is some way to limit keeping apps in ram to 8..as we can only limit upto 4 in dev options... Hope someway we can restrict upto 8
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The only plausible solution now is to reboot your phone every 24 hrs.
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adriansticoid said:
The only plausible solution now is to reboot your phone every 24 hrs.
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yes...i have restricted background apps to 4...its smooth...
reason i posted this here because....i have reported this to emui team....if u guys also report....they would look into it..
sreekantt said:
yes...i have restricted background apps to 4...its smooth...
reason i posted this here because....i have reported this to emui team....if u guys also report....they would look into it..
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Let's hope so.
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sreekantt said:
U didn't get my point bro... I'm saying d same thing.. But emui is keeping too many apps than a normal device in background...
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Emui is known for its aggressive killing of app in background. You can have 20 apps stored in ram and if you launch ine more then the 1sr app will be killed. Thats hiw EMUI works
Shashank u can decice how many apps to runned in the background . Probably the smart power 4.0 mean about the battery manager.

low free RAM

Recently I've noticed, that by p20 has never got more than 1.9GB of free RAM. I never leave any apps open and usually close them as soon as I stop using them. Anyone else encounter this?
I'm on official emui9
Amphibius2 said:
Recently I've noticed, that by p20 has never got more than 1.9GB of free RAM. I never leave any apps open and usually close them as soon as I stop using them. Anyone else encounter this?
I'm on official emui9
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Android has a different Ram-Managment than PCs. Free Ram is wasted Ram.
AndroidPit:
"This idea that RAM inside Android needs to be cleared manually is a misconception. Emptied RAM would mean that you need to constantly relaunch apps. This would cost time and power, and reduce battery life."
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https://www.androidpit.com/ram-management-on-android
Greetings!
Jan Philipp said:
Android has a different Ram-Managment than PCs. Free Ram is wasted Ram.
AndroidPit:
https://www.androidpit.com/ram-management-on-android
Greetings!
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Thanks for the explanation, I'm a bit familiar with that, but I was just wondering because none of my other Huawei/Honor phones use this much RAM when not really doing something in the foreground
Amphibius2 said:
Thanks for the explanation, I'm a bit familiar with that, but I was just wondering because none of my other Huawei/Honor phones use this much RAM when not really doing something in the foreground
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Has any of your other devices AI? Maybe it "thinks" it's necessary to use/reserve this amount of RAM?
Jan Philipp said:
Has any of your other devices AI? Maybe it "thinks" it's necessary to use/reserve this amount of RAM?
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Good question, I don't really know. The only Huawei/Honor device I've got right now is the Honor 8x. I know that it's got the AI camera and everything but not if there's more. RAM with that phone is always between 2 GB and 2.4GB free with my usual usage (and emui9)
I'm not bothered by having less free RAM as the experience is still very fluid, snappy and fast.
I'm just wondering

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