Holy Crap Motorolas RMA service is Terrible! - General Topics

I originally sent my z2 force in & paid around $50 for a "free" shattershield screen replacement and bought a z3 to use while waiting for the repair to be completed.
They contacted me after receiving the device saying they couldn't do a shattershield RMA because the very top layer of the screen was peeling back which is part of the display but whatever(why they wouldn't just put an entire LCD assembly in is beyond my understanding).
So after refusing to fix mine they offered to send me a new[refurbished] device for a little over an additional $50, so I'm a bit over $100 in the hole but I'm getting a new[refurbished] device, okay, or so I thought.
Expecting it to be a quick process I was just going to sell this z3 once I got my z2 force back; it's now 2 months later, I still haven't received my new[refurbished] z2 force and they can't even figure out how to ship it. In the meantime I'm still using my z3 which is showing signs of use now so selling it is going to suck, the charging port on my z3 is already wearing out & I've have a motomod turbopower battery pack die.
To sum up the issue, since my phone was originally a repair & got changed to a replacement they had to make a new RMA case for it because apparently they don't have a process to modify it mid RMA. After they made a new RMA case for it they can't figure out how to mark my device as "received" since they already had it. So they haven't shipped my replacement for over a month because their customer support & warehouse people are completely inept. I've already called & emailed multiple times and actually gave them multiple ways to mark it received on their end(I have inventory management experience) but all I ever get is "we're coordinating with our warehouse" "we can't get ahold of the warehouse" and my favorite "we're escalating your case" which I've been told so many times I think the CEO of Motorola must be handling my case.
After exclusively using Motorola phones my whole life [v710, razr(probably had 5 of these), MotoQ, original flip Moto Droid, Droid X, Droid Bionic, Droid Turbo, Turbo 2, Z force, z2 force & now z3] I've been on the fence my last few purchases and I'm done with Motorola/Lenovo forever.
Here I come OnePlus?, Samsung?, Huawei?
Any recommendations lmk...

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My eBay experience (techno.trading.house)

Hi everyone,
I want to share my journey with the Z3, and the experience with buying from eBay, specifically from a seller, techno.trading.house (Steph, Ed). I bought two brand new Z3 (D6603)--a black one for myself, and a white one for my girlfriend. The order was smooth, and the phones came in pretty much brand new (open box though) with their plastic peel-screens on the glass, untouched. After using the two for a few hours, I noticed that my black one had a defective sensor (photo). The seller advertised "hassle-free" exchanges/refunds, so I reported the defect and had the black one exchanged right away.
After a week, the new one came, the same brand new (open box) condition as the previous phones. However, there was a slight manufacturing defect with the USB flap--it closes completely at a slant (photo). I spelled out the issue with the seller, and here was how it went:
SELLER: I'm sorry to hear that! We will certainly replace it for you, I believe that your phone would be damaged underwater if that or any other flap was not closed properly. (I also do strongly suggest to avoid wetting the phone just in case). Please return the phone to...
ME (after 2 days delivered to them): Hi, have you receive the package yet, and have you ship out the new phone?
SELLER: Your return has been received. If you had chosen to receive a replacement, it will be sent within 2 days. If you have opted for a refund, it will be issued within 24 hours minus applicable restocking fee.
ME: Do you have tracking info? Thanks!
SELLER: Our records indicate that we have already sent a replacement. You have reached out to us to let us know that the replacement has the same issue. In order to avoid another occurrence, we recommend that we proceed with a refund for this item. Please let us know if this is okay.
ME: Sorry, I am not sure what you are saying. Are you talking about the previous replacement or the 2nd replacement being shipped out? I am currently waiting for the 2nd replacement. You said "sure" on the second replacement last week.
SELLER: We are talking about the previous replacement. We believe since both- the original phone and the replacement phone- has had the same issue, that a refund might be best. Let us know if this is ok.
ME: That is not correct. First phone had a defective camera. Second one had a manufacturer defect on the flap. You agreed for the second exchange, so I am not sure why you are backing out now? I need the phone as I have been using an old dumb phone for work for a week already.
SELLER: I'm very sorry for the confusion. I just read back through the emails and you are indeed correct. We will have your replacement unit shipped today. Here is your tracking number. Again, I am sorry for the confusion. Have a great day!
ME: Thanks. I just hope the new one does not have any defect--I will be checking it. If it's not shipped out yet, anyway you can inspect these? Thank you.
SELLER: Hello, Not a problem.
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So the 2nd replacement came (third phone), and the phone came in a used/open condition. There were no plastic peel-screens on either side of the glass and the USB wire was laying in there without its plastic wrappers. I knew immediately this was used, so I began close inspection of the phone. I found that the power button had a noticeable dent on one side, as if it was dropped on a table before. At this point, I don't know what to do with the phone. I have summoned the seller to see what they plan to do with this situation.
It appears that the seller recycles their returned phones and try to sell them as new, or whatever it is. I am extremely disappointed with this seller, and I want others to know so they may not fall into the same trap.
I checked the current feedback, and it appears someone had the same situation (photo). Go figure!
To me this sounds like a fair seller and a picky buyer. 832 positive reviews and 6 negative ones in a month is a ratio I would buy at if I wanted to save a hundred bucks by buying without factory warranty.
It could have been an honest mistake. I doubt he purposely gave you an opened one, just work with him to solve the problem. eBay is much harder on sellers than buyers and he would ruin his reputation if he did it on purpose. Looking at his rating I would say it was an honest mistake.
I understand if he wants to refund you, he is just trying to cut his losses. At the same time it was your misfortune to get a bad device/s. Since this phone is known for cosmetic/other issues as its in early production you are better of buying from Sony/carrier making replacement easier.
abhinav.tella said:
It could have been an honest mistake. I doubt he purposely gave you an opened one, just work with him to solve the problem. eBay is much harder on sellers than buyers and he would ruin his reputation if he did it on purpose. Looking at his rating I would say it was an honest mistake.
I understand if he wants to refund you, he is just trying to cut his losses. At the same time it was your misfortune to get a bad device/s. Since this phone is known for cosmetic/other issues as its in early production you are better of buying from Sony/carrier making replacement easier.
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remember me?
I'm sorry to hear that. It was really a frustrating moment you went through. If I were you I would probably be really angry.
If you want, just buy it from Sony store. I got mine and it's perfect so far (except some cosmetic minor faults).
I bought two phones directly from the same seller. The price was cheaper on their own site vs eBay or Amazon. Both phones are perfect. They came in non sealed boxes. I've got no complaints.
android404 said:
To me this sounds like a fair seller and a picky buyer. 832 positive reviews and 6 negative ones in a month is a ratio I would buy at if I wanted to save a hundred bucks by buying without factory warranty.
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I may be a picky buyer, but who wouldn't be when you receive a defective product, and even worse when you get a used one on your third one. Feedbacks mean jack when you are on the short end. They are only good for initial decision about the seller, hence I trust them like you would too.
abhinav.tella said:
It could have been an honest mistake. I doubt he purposely gave you an opened one, just work with him to solve the problem. eBay is much harder on sellers than buyers and he would ruin his reputation if he did it on purpose. Looking at his rating I would say it was an honest mistake.
I understand if he wants to refund you, he is just trying to cut his losses. At the same time it was your misfortune to get a bad device/s. Since this phone is known for cosmetic/other issues as its in early production you are better of buying from Sony/carrier making replacement easier.
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I hope you are right on the honest mistake.
bluesky2111 said:
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I'm sorry to hear that. It was really a frustrating moment you went through. If I were you I would probably be really angry.
If you want, just buy it from Sony store. I got mine and it's perfect so far (except some cosmetic minor faults).
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Yeah, I really regret not buying from Sony store, or even T-Mobile here. At this point, I might just say screw it, keep the phone, and move on with my life. Maybe the Z4 will entice me in few months. :good:
I purchased 3 different Z3 D6603 from Techno Trading, Never-MSRP, and Sony Direct all off ebay.
Techno Trading shipping a Central America version of the D6603 (White) to me and it had no seals whatsoever on the box (US Charger). This model would not show LTE indicator until I flashed a generic TFT. Booting with Encryption shows the Pin Entry text in Spanish but quickly changes to English. Seller Feedack: Shipped very quickly but using subpar shipping materials. Shipped from Miami.
Never-MSRP shipped a Central Europe version of the D6603 (Copper) to me and it HAD seals on the box but also included a Sony Screen Protector (Non-US Charger). This model had the LTE indicator from start. Booting with Encryption shows the Pin Entry text in English. Seller Feedback: Shipped same day and was packaged very well. Unfortunately, they are located in Houston so I had to pay tax.
Sony Direct shipped a Generic North American model of the D6603 (Green) to me. This one had seals on the box but didn't include the Screen Protector. LTE shows from start and includes a US Charger. Plastic on the front and back of phone is totally different than the other two. Its hard to describe but the other phones came with a very very thin plastic protector. This model shipped with much thicker protectors on front and back (still meant to be removed because they have tabs on the side). Additionally, the other two phones were inside a cellophane bag but the this model was not in cellophane. Shipped from Sony in Romeoville IL. Shipped within two hours of purchase using FedEx for free. Unfortunately, Sony charges tax everywhere. Packaged well but not great.
My point...
Sony packages models different based on their intended destination. It might not be that you ever got "open box" devices but rather they were intended for an area which Sony (for whatever reason) chose not to use seals.
mwep said:
My point...
Sony packages models different based on their intended destination. It might not be that you ever got "open box" devices but rather they were intended for an area which Sony (for whatever reason) chose not to use seals.
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That is interesting. Before buying from techno, I bought a white one from tropical_mobile (in which I sold quickly due to being D6653), who stated they were located in Tennessee, but shipped from Singapore. However, the phone was sealed with two white rounded "sealed" stickers on the box. The phone also was sealed in a clear plastic slip and had protective screens on both sides.
This whole Z3 deal has been pretty bad luck for me. Maybe it is not meant to be. But good news--the seller techno.trading.house got back to me, and is willing to refund me $20 for the dented power button, or do another replacement. I'm planning to take the refund, and live with it as I am sick of all the exchanges. Who knows, the replacement might have even weirder issues.
If you spend $500 plus on an item, you the buyer, have every right on this planet to be as picky as you like.
Nobody has to settle for anything less than perfection.
So no, you don't have to accept a defective camera, or flap or indeed a previously returned phone.
As I mentioned before but was lambasted in another thread, Sony may be using premium materials, but they are certainly not using premium construction. Not when some people have to go through six boxes in store to find a unit without light bleed and gaps.
I myself had two exchanges within the first two weeks. My first unit was simply not waterproof and had a leaky flap and my second one didn't charge on the magnetic dock and now I have light bleed but no energy to fight it anymore.
It's almost as bad as an iPhone. All my iPhone friends have had multiple exchanges... Some as many as 5 in a year.
Sent from my D6603 using XDA Free mobile app
More recent feedbacks to prove my point.
stop accepting being called a picky buyer.... ur paying top dollar for the phone, that said u should receive a product good for the purpose, if the camera doesn't work its not good
if the phone isnt water proof it isnt good
if there is a dent in the design it should state it before being bought. so it's not the buyer nor seller (purposely) its a unlucky sale.
I purchased mine at t-mobile. I paid 100% upfront despite being with t-mobile and they unlock it on the spot. When I registered with Xperia Care (sonymobiles product registration) I entered my IMEI and it has till Oct 2016 on warranty.
However on the 2nd day of owning the device The bottom speaker stopped working and was making a static noise. I went to my t-mo store I purchased it and they swapped it out. I didn't even pay a restocking fee. The manager said as long as I get the same phone and since I bought it back so promptly that he would just swap a new one. This one has been perfect since. Sometimes the convenience of having a store near by is better than having to deal with shipping my phone back and forth!
Alot of people dont want the tmobile Bloatwear but like I said, 32 GB + Local customer support outweight > No bloatwear & 16 Gig with mail in issues. (since i have no sony store near by, id still have to mail in for repairs and exchanges)
Me too, I'm glad I bought it from TMO with an EIP, exchanged mine 3 times on my 4th now, no hassles or fees.

T-Mobile Z3... dropped/Best way to root new one/Backup old one/Insurance Claim

So I dropped my Z3 on some concrete last night....
Device works just fine but it's ugly. Will they accept the claim provided it's just cosmetic or should I lie and say it is done for? What pisses me off is not the money for the deductible... it's the countless hours I've spent customizing it.
So I'm going to file the insurance claim today. I would like to know the best way to backup my device so that I can restore as much onto the new one as possible. I had the dual backup installed but will never boot into it, maybe ill try to reinstall.
Then as far as the new device... what's the best way to root it? Should I take the update? I have blocked the sony updater on my existing one for fear of it breaking root.
Lastly will Assurant check to see if I rooted my old one? Should I unroot it prior to sending it back.
Thanks in advance for your advice. My big thing is I'm not sending this one in until I get an exact replacement and I can get that replacement rooted. If I can't do that I'll pay $200-300 to get it repaired.
I do not believe cosmetic issues are covered. Granted I did not have insurance (They backdated Jump for me after my 3 refurb so had insurance technically) when I did my exchanges with T-Mobile but they made it clear that cosmetic issues are not considered plus you technically physically damaged it and it was not a factory defect, Unless its affecting the usage of the phone they won't, unless I suppose any damage to the frame affected water proofing, you could make that case if true. In my case of severe light leak on a few of them I convinced them waterproofing was compromised (failed pressure test) so they agreed to replace.
Oh and by the way T-Mobile does not have any new Z3s nor any new ones coming in, you will get a refurb..... And boy does the repair center do a bad job, I had to send 4 refurbs in a row back recently because they had issues ranging from severe light bleed to missing paint patch in bezel which acts like an extra LED near lower speaker on 2 of them to a streak of hot/dead pixels on one....
So basically unless they can get you factory sealed one, you will have to test your luck with refurbs, though depending on how bad your damaged Z3 looks it may well be worth it lol.
abhinav.tella said:
I do not believe cosmetic issues are covered. Granted I did not have insurance (They backdated Jump for me after my 3 refurb so had insurance technically) when I did my exchanges with T-Mobile but they made it clear that cosmetic issues are not considered plus you technically physically damaged it and it was not a factory defect, Unless its affecting the usage of the phone they won't, unless I suppose any damage to the frame affected water proofing, you could make that case if true. In my case of severe light leak on a few of them I convinced them waterproofing was compromised (failed pressure test) so they agreed to replace.
Oh and by the way T-Mobile does not have any new Z3s nor any new ones coming in, you will get a refurb..... And boy does the repair center do a bad job, I had to send 4 refurbs in a row back recently because they had issues ranging from severe light bleed to missing paint patch in bezel which acts like an extra LED near lower speaker on 2 of them to a streak of hot/dead pixels on one....
So basically unless they can get you factory sealed one, you will have to test your luck with refurbs, though depending on how bad your damaged Z3 looks it may well be worth it lol.
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Assurant always does refurbs, unless they don't have any they will give you a new one. It's at least a z3 they are sending, otherwise I'd tell to them to f*** off and I'd find a way to repair it.
I'm pissed that T-mobile doesn't carry anymore (some still available in stores). I think half the reason they don't sell is the salespeople at the mobile carriers and best buy are always pushing garbage samsung devices. If you go to Europe you can find accessories for any sony phone in any electronics store or airport shop. My friends in Canada say one in four in their group of friends have an Xperia. I have only seen one other out in the real world... and the individual was from Hong Kong.
I would rather purchase direct from Sony, but T-mobiles coverage is still spotty and I depend on wifi calling in some places I visit regularly.
Guy at T-Mobile said cosmetic is covered. The way I see it they'd probably prefer I pay $175 and get a device that's working just fine. I said the screen was cracked... but technically it's the glass on the back.
It's not T-Mobile's fault, they still sell the Z/Z1, reason they stopped sale of the Z3 is due to quality control issues and numerous returns. A rep told me that after I said I want a new one not any more defective refurbs. As I said I am on my 8th lol plus the 4-5 more (new) TMO store itself went through to get me my 4th so make it 10-12 total TMO sent back to Sony just for me...
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but needing that many returns is just ridiculous.....
The international version seems to have much better consistency in production and quality.
However honestly I'm glad I bought directly from T-Mobile they gave me immediate replacements for my first 4 (in Oct-Nov) which were new and 1 day shipping for the last 4 which were refurbs (recently). Sony support asked me to do a software reinstall to get rid of light leak from frame/glass where glue was clearly missing, facepalm. After that they said 3 week minimum turn around time for replacements. TMO reps seemed more knowledgeable.... They even offered to cancel my monthly phone cost and refeund tax if it happened again....
Well anyway, I hope you get a good replacement. Another idea is in the event you get a bad refurb, try to go through Sony and make them give you the international version instead.
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It's not T-Mobile's fault, they still sell the Z/Z1, reason they stopped sale of the Z3 is due to quality control issues and numerous returns. A rep told me that after I said I want a new one not any more defective refurbs. As I said I am on my 8th lol plus the 4-5 more (new) TMO store itself went through to get me my 4th so make it 10-12 total TMO sent back to Sony just for me...
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but needing that many returns is just ridiculous.....
The international version seems to have much better consistency in production and quality.
However honestly I'm glad I bought directly from T-Mobile they gave me immediate replacements for my first 4 (in Oct-Nov) which were new and 1 day shipping for the last 4 which were refurbs (recently). Sony support asked me to do a software reinstall to get rid of light leak from frame/glass where glue was clearly missing, facepalm. After that they said 3 week minimum turn around time for replacements. TMO reps seemed more knowledgeable.... They even offered to cancel my monthly phone cost and refeund tax if it happened again....
Well anyway, I hope you get a good replacement.
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As much as I liked the more squarish design of my z1s (though hated the silver accents)... my z3 seemed to be a much more quality device. Scared to try out this refurbed one. I'm charging it up and waiting until I find out the best means for rooting it. Hoping it's not a piece of crap. I remember a friend dropped my z1s, the replacement models vibrator would stop working.
Personally what upsets me most is the bootloaders that can't be unlocked and frustration with rooting. It's so easy on the international versions. And frankly while wifi calling is a nice feature it's a total load that I can't use it on any device and even more upsetting that it isn't compatible with third party messaging apps. I can't get mms to download over wifi calling with anything but that hideous bare bones stock messaging app.
"The international version seems to have much better consistency in production and quality." That right there says it all. If the international version is compatible on your service, why create a dumbed down version?
Regardless it's good to speak to someone that has experience with this, albeit unfortunate experiences. Good luck.
Make sure to check it at night, and look for light bleed and also any LED like effect from missing paint on front glass (That I believe is due to a tool mark), saw this on 3 refurbs.
As I said earlier if it does have issues try the cross model exchange with Sony. I see no alternative devices lol, the Z3 is still the most well rounded device even with the new guys in town.

buying used g4 are any models safe from the bootloop issue?

Ok so I have currently a g3 that is pretty bad with signals so looking to upgrade...I don't want to spend a lot for the g5 until it drops in price in a year or so...so I was thinking of buying a used g4...I'm leary about the bootloop issues I've been seeing a large amount of people getting and since ill be buying a used phone idk if that'll factor with warranty...anyways I found one I want to buy and I asked the guy what the first few numbers were in the serial number and he said it was 589...that seems a bit high but I know most of the affected units were between 505-509...so do you guys think ill be safe with this phone? I really don't want to spend a lot of money on a potential paper weight...thanks in advance...
Not sure how to read the numbers
My phone has been in the process of dying for the last month, despite my attempts to eliminate an app here and an app there. Saturday it just finally booted endlessly, and won't go any place beyond that.
I bought the phone at Best Buy on 9-3-15, so I guess it's one of the early production models, but I'm not sure of the numbering system. The box has a UPC code with a 6 at the left edge of the code, followed by 52810, then a small gap and the numbers 51648, and finally an 8 at the right edge of the bar code. I can't figure out whether my phone is a "652" or a "528." Maybe somebody can help out with this question.
Thanks, Enzo
Well, since I posted on May 14, the LG G4 quit on me, and nothing but endless boots and more and more heat.
I *****ed to LG, providing the IMEI and the purchase date, etc., and they gave me an RMA. I shipped the phone via FedEx, as directed by LG, at a cost of approximately $20, to the repair facility in Ft. Worth, Texas.
The phone arrived at the repair facility two days ago, Monday morning, and I just got an email indicating that it was shipped back to me today.
No indication of whether it was repaired, or rejected because I regularly dropped it in the toilet and/or spilled coffee all over it, but maybe I'll find out in the next few days. (Actually, I treated the phone very gently, and even used a very grippy silicone cover to ensure I never dropped the thing.)
Since I feared LG would probably need weeks/months/years to get it turned around, I bought a new Samsung Galaxy Alpha from B&H Camera ($250) and a wireless charging device, and a glass screen protector. So at least if the dreaded boot loop syndrome recurs on the LG, maybe something will still be available to permit me to address the world via telephone from my hermit's cave. Enzo.
Email Today From LG--My Phone Headed For Long Beach
I received an email this morning indicating that my phone will be delivered sometime Saturday, May 28.
The email said "Defect: Power--No power with cable"
"Repair Results: Swap board (Main/RF) Others"
Not sure what all this means, but I guess it means they replaced the motherboard, and I'm not sure what else they may have done or not done.
I'll post further on the repairs and etc. next week after I get the phone up & running.
I am quite pleasantly surprised how fast the phone was handled by LG, inasmuch as it arrived in Ft. Worth on Monday, and they tossed it back to FedEx yesterday. Enzo.

Motorola service sucks!

Despite the fact that moto x style still hasn't got nougat update and both my moto g4 plus and moto x chargers and earphones stopped working after 7 months and my moto g4 plus had screen retention issue. I was still open to buying moto devices, thinking their quality and service is still better than other cheaper brands.
But today I went to moto service center to get a replacement for earphones that came with 2 months old moto g5 plus. Only 5 or so customers. I thought the whole process shouldn’t take more than half an hour considering there were 4 guys sitting at the front desk. To my surprise my turn came after an hour ( as the front desk guys spent their time chatting, taking selifies and roaming around.
Finally when my turn came the person sitting told me they will open up my device to check whether there was problem with accessories or with my phone. He simply didn't agree when I told him that the accessories don't work with any other device and all other accessories were working with my phone. He still didn't agree and said they'll also take 200 rupees or 3 dollar opening fee if they thought that the phone had water or physical damage. And they wouldn't show me the problem even if there was one.
Finally after everything they accepted the accessories and said they'll return the phone after doing a CIT. I waited for 1 hour 15 minutes and by then all the 4 front desk guys left and I had no one to talk to or see if anything was happening.
I entered their back office and asked for answers, after 15 minutes they came back with my phone and said I had to come back with the phone again as they couldn't complete their tests and they'll reinstall the OS on my phone.
And so I wasted my 3 hours time for nothing. Now I've finally decided no more moto. Their accessories stop working very soon and they're causing unnecessary trouble to consumers so they don't come to service center again.
Any suggestions how I can proceed? If anyone has email or a number where I can complaint about this, please share.
I don't think you're experience has anything to do with motonova.
I would have never let anyone crack open my phone, because of a bad set of headphones.
Like every other service center, there's always going to be bad eggs. Not much Motorola / Lenovos can do about it, other than the customer filing a complaint.
That sounds more like a bunch of lazy workers who are trying to scan you. I would report it to Lenovo HQ.
I guess you guys are right, but I think the whole process is now standard for all moto service centers. Things used to be different before at the same service center. They only checked the bill and looked at the phone for 10 seconds to check if the bill's for the same device. They checked if the accessory had any physical damage and if it was not working and that was it.
I don't think we even have Moto service centers in the US.
So after waiting another 3 hours today, I finally got the accessories ?
Yes they broke my first Moto X. Back cover was damaged and many scratches just to fix headphone jack issue.

Holy Crap! Motorolas RMA system is TERRIBLE

I originally sent my z2 force in & paid around $50 for a "free" shattershield screen replacement and bought a z3 to use while waiting for the repair to be completed.
They contacted me after receiving the device saying they couldn't do a shattershield RMA because the very top layer of the screen was peeling back which is part of the display but whatever(why they wouldn't just put an entire LCD assembly in is beyond my understanding).
So after refusing to fix mine they offered to send me a new[refurbished] device for a little over an additional $50, so I'm a bit over $100 in the hole but I'm getting a new[refurbished] device, okay, or so I thought.
Expecting it to be a quick process I was just going to sell this z3 once I got my z2 force back; it's now 2 months later, I still haven't received my new[refurbished] z2 force and they can't even figure out how to ship it. In the meantime I'm still using my z3 which is showing signs of use now so selling it is going to suck, the charging port on my z3 is already wearing out & I've have a motomod turbopower battery pack die.
To sum up the issue, since my phone was originally a repair & got changed to a replacement they had to make a new RMA case for it because apparently they don't have a process to modify it mid RMA. After they made a new RMA case for it they can't figure out how to mark my device as "received" since they already had it. So they haven't shipped my replacement for over a month because their customer support & warehouse people are completely inept. I've already called & emailed multiple times and actually gave them multiple ways to mark it received on their end(I have inventory management experience) but all I ever get is "we're coordinating with our warehouse" "we can't get ahold of the warehouse" and my favorite "we're escalating your case" which I've been told so many times I think the CEO of Motorola must be handling my case.
After exclusively using Motorola phones my whole life [v710, razr(probably had 5 of these), MotoQ, original flip Moto Droid, Droid X, Droid Bionic, Droid Turbo, Turbo 2, Z force, z2 force & now z3] I've been on the fence my last few purchases and I'm done with Motorola/Lenovo forever.
Here I come OnePlus?, Samsung?, Huawei?
Any recommendations lmk...
Tap053 said:
Jere I come OnePlus?, Samsung?, Huawei?
Any recommendations lmk...
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Just buy a new Moto. They are cheap and, besides, I don't think anyone works at Motorola anymore based on their lack of software updates/support.
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Jcanner said:
Just buy a new Moto. They are cheap and, besides, I don't think anyone works at Motorola anymore based on their lack of software updates/support.
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Did you read my post? I already bought a new one, I'm saying after this I'm done with them for sure. Why would I continue buying products from, and supporting a company that has terrible customer service & support and as you mentioned is slow with software updates & improvements..? Also Moto phones aren't cheap for the Z line so they have no competitive edge in price and the quality just isn't there as this z3 I just bought already has multiple issues. I thought the mods platform was awesome and while they are functional the battery packs seem to fail quickly and the software interface with other mods always feels very alpha/beta and definitely not like a finished product.
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Did you read my post? I already bought a new one, I'm saying after this I'm done with them for sure.
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I don't disagree with anything you're saying. They have a lot of potential but they suck so hard right now with updates and just general basic stuff I can't recommend a Moto. My Z3 has been great but still no OS update and we're well into 2019. They are circling the drain.
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Tap053 said:
Here I come OnePlus?, Samsung?, Huawei?
Any recommendations lmk...
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I don't know if I'd go with Samsung if you want great repair service considering their largest repair center just lost 280 workers to an ICE raid. It's possible that CVE as featured in this article also does work for Motorola since they're literally located around the corner in Allen, Texas:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-bust-decade-cve-technology-group/3362163002/
You didn't by chance send your phone to Allen, did you?
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Jcanner said:
I don't know if I'd go with Samsung if you want great repair service considering their largest repair center just lost 280 workers to an ICE raid. It's possible that CVE as featured in this article also does work for Motorola since they're literally located around the corner in Allen, Texas:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-bust-decade-cve-technology-group/3362163002/
You didn't by chance send your phone to Allen, did you?
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No mine went to Fort Worth, TX.
Either way there's no excuse for it to take as long as it has. I'm actually currently on the phone with them lol I've been escalated again ???
Well they offered me a 5% discount to continue attempting to send me a refurb which they've been trying to do for a month now ?* Unbelievable...
I'm thinking OnePlus, I got one for my mom a while back and she hasn't destroyed it which impressive.

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