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I know all the good stuff Android says about auto killing memory threads when there is a need BUT I am a micromanager for my Android . I JUST DONT WANT Google Play Services and Google Maps service to run in background as if they own the OS (sounds like Google like to keep google running after all ) .
Is there ANY way e.g....
-- Command via terminal
-- Any APP out there
-- a file change
that will prevent these suckers from running in the background. Google claims that these are innocent little puppies -just sit in the memory and dont consume CPU . Really ? NOT SO ..
-- They consume SLOW NETWORK bandwidth and cpu ( Keep a port checking s/w and see the android's IP doing some mischief through random ports, EVEN when its not in use )
-- Suck the battery
-- I JUST DON'T like carrying a lot of unnecessary stuff in the trunk of my car ..Ok?
I know there were some apps that would MODIFY default permissions on each app. Could they help . Could someone run me a few names
I feel the same way. I want to keep Google Play from looking for updates in the background. Glad to know I'm not the only one!
I'm not exactly sure of the end result. But maybe you could use a titanium backup widget to freeze/unfreeze Google play services. I did it to g maps and the toggle widget works perfect I just haven't tried play services because not sure if it will break something lol.
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djwuh said:
I'm not exactly sure of the end result. But maybe you could use a titanium backup widget to freeze/unfreeze Google play services. I did it to g maps and the toggle widget works perfect I just haven't tried play services because not sure if it will break something lol.
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I am already using Link2SD ( BTW I met some other serious issues with it - no one here in XDA has bothered to reply to me ) and I froze the following apps that run in the background without asking me
-- google services framework
-- google play
-- airdroid
- some other google service ( not sure of name )
i will unfreeze only when I need to , rest times I am good. Miss out updates - but who cares - I dont - actualyl updates are a pain in b**t when they keep happening every other day
I wondered if there is some s/w out there that will change the ACL's of these files so that they cannot exe, automatically.
sieger007 said:
I am already using Link2SD ( BTW I met some other serious issues with it - no one here in XDA has bothered to reply to me ) and I froze the following apps that run in the background without asking me
-- google services framework
-- google play
-- airdroid
- some other google service ( not sure of name )
i will unfreeze only when I need to , rest times I am good. Miss out updates - but who cares - I dont - actualyl updates are a pain in b**t when they keep happening every other day
I wondered if there is some s/w out there that will change the ACL's of these files so that they cannot exe, automatically.
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You froze Google Services Framework and your phone still worked???
I'd like to see a full list of what you froze.
EEngineer said:
You froze Google Services Framework and your phone still worked???
I'd like to see a full list of what you froze.
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some google service - I will double check the name. Try it . How cares - unfreeze if it does not work . I froze the sim#2 service also because i dont use it Think Linux - what do you need to run it
I just tried something different, I used DroidWall to block network access to the following services:
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Account Manager
Network Location
Google Bookmarks Sync
Google Contacts Sync
They were all listed as one item so they had to be blocked all at the same time. I will report what happens.
It's possible, annoying part is having to defrost services to install/update an app. Once in hibernation with the correct apk you'll be fine with no orange bars.
Make sure to delete all /data/data gsf stuff
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EEngineer said:
I just tried something different, I used DroidWall to block network access to the following services:
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Account Manager
Network Location
Google Bookmarks Sync
Google Contacts Sync
They were all listed as one item so they had to be blocked all at the same time. I will report what happens.
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Any updates on if this helped or not? Did it cause any negative effects?
No negative effects, and tablet is FASTER! Only thing is I have to unblock Google Play Service to check for app updates, but I only do that twice a month anyway.
EEngineer said:
No negative effects, and tablet is FASTER! Only thing is I have to unblock Google Play Service to check for app updates, but I only do that twice a month anyway.
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Is there not a way to disable them all apart from G Play Service?
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Is there not a way to disable them all apart from G Play Service?
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Not sure I understand your question. I've discovered it's safe to block network access to them all.
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if you block Google Play services and account manager your Gmail App will not work unless you are accessing Gmail through some other third party imapclient can someone confirm if Gmail App will work when these guys are blocked
After trying everything I found a solution for this without disabling anything.
The google play services battery usage is now decreasing.. It went from 32% to 11% in an hour.
Here is the fix:
Settings - Apps - Google Play Services - disable
Then it will ask you to disable some administrator rights or something (I dont remember). Do it
Then it will ask you to return app to factory version, press yes.
Thats it.
Good luck
skipped said:
After trying everything I found a solution for this without disabling anything.
The google play services battery usage is now decreasing.. It went from 32% to 11% in an hour.
Here is the fix:
Settings - Apps - Google Play Services - disable
Then it will ask you to disable some administrator rights or something (I dont remember). Do it
Then it will ask you to return app to factory version, press yes.
Thats it.
Good luck
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Instead of posting a new thread, you could just post it in the main thread so everyone who's subscribed to it will see this possible fix.
bilago said:
Instead of posting a new thread, you could just post it in the main thread so everyone who's subscribed to it will see this possible fix.
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I thought that, but not everyone will search in the replies of that thread until they find the answer. I can put it there too.
Thanks
skipped said:
After trying everything I found a solution for this without disabling anything.
The google play services battery usage is now decreasing.. It went from 32% to 11% in an hour.
Here is the fix:
Settings - Apps - Google Play Services - disable
Then it will ask you to disable some administrator rights or something (I dont remember). Do it
Then it will ask you to return app to factory version, press yes.
Thats it.
Good luck
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Great tip ! I now have great (better than with Android 4.3) battery life without doing a factory reset ! Thanks
Does the problem ever come back after you do this? Seems like once Play updates itself again the problem would return.
I play certain games using BlueStacks because they won't run on my rooted device, no matter how well-hidden Magisk is.
Epic Seven is one of said games.
Problem is, because I can't use root AND play that game, I can't use a lot of mods. And while there's no-root ad-blocking methods, I don't want to block every ad, either. There's one of those "watch an ad, get an in-game reward" thing they do every day, five times per day. It gives 20 energy per ad, but a couple weeks ago, suddenly said ads started opening the Play Store when the ad finishes, which kicks the game to the background and interrupts things. It's VERY annoying and obtrusive, something that I'm actually dismayed to see.
Danmachi Memoria Freese does this garbage, too.
So is there anything I can do about this? I just want to keep said ads from opening the &#%$ing Play Store, not block the ads themselves.
You can set up parental controls
On the device you want parental controls on, open the Play Store app .
In the top left corner, tap Menu Settings. Parental controls.
Turn on Parental controls.
Create a PIN.
Tap the type of content you want to filter.
Choose how to filter or restrict access.
I hope you got your answer!!
Firewall block Playstore.
blackhawk said:
Firewall block Playstore.
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Which do you recommend? Will it prevent updates? Will it keep the damn games from launching it after every ad?
sophia0001 said:
You can set up parental controls
On the device you want parental controls on, open the Play Store app .
In the top left corner, tap Menu Settings. Parental controls.
Turn on Parental controls.
Create a PIN.
Tap the type of content you want to filter.
Choose how to filter or restrict access.
I hope you got your answer!!
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I don't think you understood my question.
Karma Firewall is an adfree VNP firewall that uses very little battery. On Pie and below has logging as well. It's a great app with zero issues.
It's easy enough to toggle it or a specific app on/off as needed.
The game still attempts to open the Play Store, and I still have to click a bunch of times to dismiss it. So it seems a firewall isn't the best solution.
Depending on what version of Android you are on you can clear the defaults of the Google Play Store so that it won't open up the Play Store when you click on a Google Play Store from anywhere in Android.
The steps to do this vary by which version (skin and Android version) your phone/tablet is running. Generally you have to:
Open Settings
Applications
Application Manager
Find the Google Play Store and remove defaults for opening web links
This approach will however still bring up the Google Play Store on your web browser.
Isn't there any other way?
It's getting to the point where I don't even want to play these anymore. Or at least not watch the ads and forgo the rewards, because they are that annoying.
GuyInDogSuit said:
Isn't there any other way?
It's getting to the point where I don't even want to play these anymore. Or at least not watch the ads and forgo the rewards, because they are that annoying.
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No one? This is ridiculous. They're now not only opening the Play Store, but switching out of the game, TO the Play Store entirely, instead of opening it in the background AND showing a "pop-up" of said store page in-game, too. These are obstructive and intrusive as hell, and I'm going to raise hell about this since apparently Google's allowing this garbage.
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No one? This is ridiculous. They're now not only opening the Play Store, but switching out of the game, TO the Play Store entirely, instead of opening it in the background AND showing a "pop-up" of said store page in-game, too. These are obstructive and intrusive as hell, and I'm going to raise hell about this since apparently Google's allowing this garbage.
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Their is a trick but it only works on offline games it's where if u turn off your WiFi it disables all the ads
Austinredstoner said:
Their is a trick but it only works on offline games it's where if u turn off your WiFi it disables all the ads
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What are "offline games"?
/s
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What are "offline games"?
/s
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Games that don't require the WiFi to play
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Games that don't require the WiFi to play
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Ah, sorry, I though the "/s" indicated sarcasm clearly.
I am aware of what they are, I was just joking about how rare "true" offline games are these days.
Hi, I've been with Google play Services since yesterday, draining my battery, they are always connected in the background.
I have deleted all the data, I have deleted the app updates but it is still the same.
Does anyone know what it is due to? any solution? format the phone?
Thank you.
Disable it when not needed.
Google Background Transport, Playstore and Gmail are dependencies of it. Even when behaving it's a power parasite.
If you factory reset the issue will likely return... don't attempt to fix it like that!
Clear system cache, use Device Care to clean storage, clear Google GMS data, disable Google Framework if present and Backup Transport*. Turn off Google Firebase.
You can also try deleting then recreating your Google account but like a factory reset don't expect miracles if you do... just wasted time.
*if consuming excess battery with screen off Backup Transport is a likely suspect.
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
thank you
elevation_ph said:
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
thank you
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Keep the junkware off the device.
Update/upgrade at your own peril.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie, hasn't been updated in 2.5 years, it's current load will be 2 yo this June with minimal maintenance. It's still snappy fast and stable. Security simply isn't an issue. What's not to like?
blackhawk said:
Keep the junkware off the device.
Update/upgrade at your own peril.
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What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
elevation_ph said:
What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
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Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
blackhawk said:
Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
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I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
elevation_ph said:
I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
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I don't know. Let me know if you find a good one.
I need one for my other N10+ running on Android 10...
Boost carrier Moto g Stylus 5G 2022 XT2215-4 with Android 12. Google Play Services App is DISABLED. I cannot completely disable the Google Play Services Availability alert option in the Phone App (SHOW NOTIFICATIONS locked). Other apps allow the user to disable the Google Play Services Availability alert. Is there a fix for the Phone App?
TIA,
F
You can temporarily disable Google play Services. I normally do unless it's needed like for Gmail. Playstore, Backup Transport are also a dependencies of it. Pretty much a menace... even on Android 9
Change the default phone app and disable Google Dialer.
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You can temporarily disable Google play Services. I normally do unless it's needed like for Gmail. Playstore, Backup Transport are also a dependencies of it. Pretty much a menace... even on Android 9
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Thanks for your input. I disabled Google Play Services. Even removed it using ADB. Unfortunately, I cannot turn off the alert in the PHONE APP that's looking for Google Play Services (see attached screen shots). The radio button to disable the alert is greyed out.
TheMystic said:
Change the default phone app and disable Google Dialer.
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1. Are you recommending that I install another phone app instead of the default Android? Any recommendation.
2. Isn't Google dialer part of the phone app?
Phone app is fully functional. The issue is the alert message prompting the activation of Google Play Services. I can turn off this prompt with other apps, but not the phone app.
furballi said:
1. Are you recommending that I install another phone app instead of the default Android? Any recommendation.
2. Isn't Google dialer part of the phone app?
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Yes. Since the notification cannot be disabled, it can become annoying after a while.
Google Dialer is currently your phone app and is set as default.
Install a 3rd party dialer app of your choice and set it as default. Now you'll be able to disable Google Dialer (or Phone) app from its app info page.
My recommendation
Simple Dialer - Apps on Google Play
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
play.google.com
If you're fine without call recording feature, the above is an excellent and safe alternative.
Alternative Source
Simple Dialer | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
f-droid.org
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Yes. Since the notification cannot be disabled, it can become annoying after a while.
Google Dialer is currently your phone app and is set as default.
Install a 3rd party dialer app of your choice and set it as default. Now you'll be able to disable Google Dialer (or Phone) app from its app info page.
My recommendation:
Simple Dialer - Apps on Google Play
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
play.google.com
If you're fine without call recording feature, the above is an excellent and safe alternative.
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Excellent! Will install the other option. I also have the 6 GB RAM version of this phone from Metro. Per app inspection, the other phone app is identical in revision number, but it doesn't have the Google Play Services Availability radio option.
If time permits, I may remove Phone App via ADB, then download the next Phone App apk. I don't know if Google Play Services Availability is hard coded into Boost's Android 12 build. Thank you very much for your input.
furballi said:
Thanks for your input. I disabled Google Play Services. Even removed it using ADB. Unfortunately, I cannot turn off the alert in the PHONE APP that's looking for Google Play Services (see attached screen shots). The radio button to disable the alert is greyed out.
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On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
furballi said:
Excellent! Will install the other option. I also have the 6 GB RAM version of this phone from Metro. Per app inspection, the other phone app is identical in revision number, but it doesn't have the Google Play Services Availability radio option.
If time permits, I may remove Phone App via ADB, then download the next Phone App apk. I don't know if Google Play Services Availability is hard coded into Boost's Android 12 build. Thank you very much for your input.
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I suggest that you install the alternative app first, set it as default and test everything is working fine (although there is no reason why it wouldn't) before attempting to remove the stock dialer.
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On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
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A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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I suggest that you install the alternative app first, set it as default and test everything is working fine (although there is no reason why it wouldn't) before attempting to remove the stock dialer.
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Yeah, the dialer is part of the core function of a... phone.
Lol, proceed with caution unless you enjoy factory resets
blackhawk said:
On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
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Thank you.
TheMystic said:
A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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You got a lot of trashware running...
blackhawk said:
You got a lot of trashware running...
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Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
TheMystic said:
A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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Will test drive the alternate phone app. I also saw a bunch of alerts, but I was able to kill them by going into each app and disable the Google Play Services alert radio button. The GPS's main function is probably to update the app. All the apps are fully functional without GPS running in the background.
Google's is in the business of data mining. That's why I want tight control of all Google apps whenever possible.
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Will test drive the alternate phone app. I also saw a bunch of alerts, but I was able to kill them by going into each app and disable the Google Play Services alert radio button. The GPS's main function is probably to update the app. All the apps are fully functional without GPS running in the background.
Google's is in the business of data mining. That's why I want tight control of all Google apps whenever possible.
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Updating is handled by Google Play Store.
Google Play Services offers a whole range of services that apps use, such as location, push notifications, etc.
If you are able to find apps that offer full functionality without depending on GPS, then you'll be fine disabling it.
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Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
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Yeah, they are... sorry.
Gmaps runs fine without it. Less some of the junk features.
Driving a taxi sucks... people are trouble.
Drunks are the worst.
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Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
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I use HERE drive. Download the map into your phone and turn ON location. Hopefully, I only need to use the SMS and Clock app. But I agree, a lot of useful stuffs are in the Google ecosystem. Chrome is significantly faster than Firefox per my setup. Edge was fast until it got bogged down with AI search. This is how they push you to upgrade the processor.
blackhawk said:
Driving a taxi sucks... people are trouble
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I'm referring to taxi services as a customer though.
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I'm referring to taxi services as a customer though.
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Than no need for Google play Services 99% of the time. It's a data mining parasite.