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Hi guys I made camera comparison on Xiaomi Mi A1 vs Moto G5S Plus with ample of shots to test the camera on those two after recent camera update as well as Android Oreo 8.0 update. You can find an in-depth review of Xiaomi Mi A1 & Moto G5S Plus Camera.
Finally, I got a chance to test out Xiaomi Mi A1 and Motorola G5S Plus. Both the smartphones have nearby feature, i.e. Dual camera. So, I will do camera review by capturing pictures and video in both Daylight and low light conditions, with the different set of an option they got.
Those ads thou (10) lol
Im bias Mi A1 is the WINNER!
I've used both the phones..mi a1 does far better in taking portrait shots than moto. Moreover motog5s plus had a manufacturing defect of dust inside camera( rgb sensor as much as i remember ). However mi a1 really starves at lowlight which can be rectified a bit by google cam(rooted). But overall mi a1 wins as per my experience. What do others think?
Video recording and audio quality much better on g5s plus.
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t0per666 said:
Those ads thou (10) lol
Im bias Mi A1 is the WINNER!
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youtube itself ads based MI A1 is better in daylight but when it comes to lowlight photography it performs very bad
t0per666 said:
Those ads thou (10) lol
Im bias Mi A1 is the WINNER!
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spaha-bih said:
Video recording and audio quality much better on g5s plus.
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4k video recording was stunning quality :angel:
Good morning guys. Does it worth to exchange my mate 10 pro for mix 2s 128gb?
Anyone who had both phones?
Thank you
I had both phones, i changed also my mate 10Pro for mix2s and yes it is worth to exchange mate 10Pro for Mix2s. only what is better on mate is front camera, but with GCam on Mix2s Mix2s is much better.
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I had both phones, i changed also my mate 10Pro for mix2s and yes it is worth to exchange mate 10Pro for Mix2s. only what is better on mate is front camera, but with GCam on Mix2s Mix2s is much better.
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How is the screen my friend??IVery big difference between mate 10 pro?Im amoled screen user since last year and im afraid i will be dissapointed...
Screen looks sharper, OS is much better, SOT almost the same and its smoother.
Mate 10 Pro is really good but I will switch any time to Mix 2s
Thx both for your opinion. What about camera? Stock is good? Gcam?
Maybe screen on mate is little brighter. Camera make better photos then mate in low light. Mix2s with gcam is much superior. Maybe only advantage of mate is ip protection. Nothing else really
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slavke1976 said:
Maybe screen on mate is little brighter. Camera make better photos then mate in low light. Mix2s with gcam is much superior. Maybe only advantage of mate is ip protection. Nothing else really
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Do you have any night samples in flickr?
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Do you have any night samples in flickr?
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Night samples of which phone?
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Night samples of which phone?
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Mix 2s
Mate the 10 pro be with you
Here is my flickr .https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ you will see which photos are from what phone and if it is mix2s GCam or stock. With tomato is compared stock vs gcam in really low light
Good morning. I put the mix 2s near mate 10 pro and 2s screen is by far worse..
Bad view angles, bad contrast and blacks..
From some samples I took camera is on par with mate in day scenarios but at night mate 10 pro wins in terms of quality.
Mate the 10 pro be with you
Hey, I'm a mi mix 2 owner and I was looking for an upgrade.
I had to choose between pocophone, mix 3, and mix 2s.
The pocophone fails my preferences because of the notch but most importantly because of the lack of NFC. And mi mix 3's gliding mechanism isn't quite on my taste even though I like the amoled displays more. So I just ordered an mix 2s. What are your opinion on this device?
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Hey, I'm a mi mix 2 owner and I was looking for an upgrade.
I had to choose between pocophone, mix 3, and mix 2s.
The pocophone fails my preferences because of the notch but most importantly because of the lack of NFC. And mi mix 3's gliding mechanism isn't quite on my taste even though I like the amoled displays more. So I just ordered an mix 2s. What are your opinion on this device?
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I did that just like you: sold Mix 2 and bought Mix 2S.
No regrets.
Same good (enough) battery, same regular front camera.
It's an awesome device.
And we got many AOSP roms, the most important thing to say. Oh and gcam!
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I did that just like you: sold Mix 2 and bought Mix 2S.
No regrets.
Same good (enough) battery, same regular front camera.
It's an awesome device.
And we got many AOSP roms, the most important thing to say. Oh and gcam!
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Thanks for that. I'm switching because of arcore support, and because it seems like mix 2 is slow on updates
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Thanks for that. I'm switching because of arcore support, and because it seems like mix 2 is slow on updates
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ARCore works on every Mix 2S' ROM.
Would be nice a way to calibrate gyroscope sensor, but it's precise enough to use.
Hello Community !
I rly dont know what is better, i saw awesome cam shots and videos made with the Mi Note 10 but the Poco F2 Pro is newer and yea ... is it better? I dont know, what do you guys think? Some of you have already some month this Mi Note 10 Phone and whats your opinion about it?
I hope you can help me a little bit
- https://www.mi.com/de/poco-f2-pro/ (8k recording, Snapdragon™
865 , 5G connection, 4700mAh, full display without a notch etc)
- https://www.mi.com/de/mi-note-10/
i was about to get the poco f2 aswell, but decided for the mi note 10 LITE (350€).
the camera sensor on the mi note 10 LITE would be the same like on the poco f2. Sony IMX686 which seems perfect for GCam mods.
the normal note 10 has a samsung sensor, which is "better" specs wise. but i heard multiple times that many prefer the sony sensor in the note 10 LITE (gcam advantages).
regarding the mi note 10 (lite):
performance is perfectly fine on the snapdragon 730g. [email protected] is max. here. i dont miss anything when it comes to performance (iam not a gamer though!).
battery is now even better on android 10 what i have heard. usually getting 8-10h SoT
5g is a useless feature for me. 4g is far enough and it can reach higher distances.
notch can be hidden via UI settings.
if you need massive gaming performance and 8k recording, the s865 is a must then.
As for the main sensors I dont think there is noticeable difference. (IMO sony probably the better choice when using gcam).
The main difference is that with note 10 you get OIS, which you don't get with poco f2. And you also get zoom camera with OIS.
Poco f2 will probably have better and faster processing due to the SD865, which assists HDR prosessing and video. It also has a decent macro camera.
So it is a close race, I'd probably say the note 10 has the most versatile camera system with OIS. But else the poco wins in every aspect. Better performance, no-notch screen, better batterytime ( note 10 battery time is not so impressive despite the large battery, my mi 9t with 4000mah last longer for example).
regarding the battery questions, which was quite important to me:
https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-mi-note-10-lite-testbericht/#akku
https://www.chinahandys.net/poco-f2-pro-testbericht/#akkulaufzeit
Note10LITE > Note10 > POCOF2
As for the note 10 lite you get a downgrade on almost all cameras vs note 10.
No OIS is the most noticeable one. But also downgraded ultrawide, selfie and no zoom.
If want a god camera Note 10 , if not No one, better a Oneplus 7 pro , poco its ok but ith the price 350 eu not 500 3u like a 7pro.
Mi note 10 with 350/400 eu its the best camera phone overall...
Hi DerSky1,
I have both phones here in my hands. Since january this year i was using the Note 10, and I was ordering the Poco F2 Pro, arriving last week.
What is bad about the Note 10?:
-Processor, lags on webpages with lot of advertisment ****.
-Processor, 108MP Pictures take some time to be processed, so you have to wait to shoot the next, as well as to see you shot after taking...
-fingerprint scanner seems to be more slowly than on Poco F2 pro
What is bad about the Poco F2 Pro?:
-The displays color accuracy is not as good as on the Note 10 (more blue)
-No FM-Radio
- IMX686 Sony Sensor is tiny compared to the Samsung 108Mpx from the Note, resulting in, i would say not as good pictures...
What makes no difference:
- batterie lasts same on both phones
-Size is similar, Poco is a bit longer
- Note 10 has a curved display, poco f2 not.
-Charging Speed in real life is very similar.
- 5G in Poco as there is no area wide 5G network in Germany for the next 2 years at least
My conclusion:
Sell the Poco, think of getting a Mi 10, or wait until note 11... hopefully with SD 765G
Fell free to ask further questions.
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_poco_f2_pro-review-2116p3.php
Gsm arena review of the poco f2, as expected.the batterylife is excellent, and beating mi note 10 ( and all other sd865 phones!)
Bit conserning is the inconsistent camera performance. This could have been better if it had OIS.
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https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_poco_f2_pro-review-2116p3.php
Gsm arena review of the poco f2, as expected.the batterylife is excellent, and beating mi note 10 ( and all other sd865 phones!)
Bit conserning is the inconsistent camera performance. This could have been better if it had OIS.
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Glad I got the Mi Note 10 Pro, I had actually ordered the F2 Pro, but at the beggining of the shipment was damage and the seller decided to cancel the purchase I made. I was nervous about the review of the F2 pro on YouTube because they switched out the telephoto camera that was in the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom, and switch out the lens with a Macro Camera, which I have little interest in. After the shiment was cancelled, I ordered the Mi Note 10 Pro. What I really lime about the F2 pro reminds me of when I owned the Mi 9T, and I love you have more options to change the color of the pop-up camere, which the Mi 9T only have one color - (depending of the color of the phone you purchased).
After owning the Xiaomi Mi 9T, which sports the same chip as the Mi Note 10/10 Pro, the battery size was the only let down, the mid range chipset is more than acceptable YouTube and media consumption. Since its an Amoled screen, I rather use a PC or console or tablet only because I prefer not to over use Amoled screens in general = screen burns. I really love the camera on the Mi Note 10 Pro, the curved screen took some time to get used too, esoecially the texting. The texting gotten better once choosing to expanding the edge accidental touch option.. But once I slapped on a slim TPU screen protector on, the screen feels amazing. Have tried a tempered glass on the Mi Note 10, those screens do jot work and takes away from the screen sensitivity. TPU and Hydrogel is the way to go.
The battery usage is amazing and after tweaking more with the CPU processor to 300Mhz minimum, and adb shell-ing out useless apps. I can say this phone is worth getting. Using the latest Xiaomi EU is amazing, I also have tried Miui 12 weekly 5.28, I like the smooth zooming capabilities of the telephoto cameras. The high screen refresh rate take some getting use to, the sooth movements makes my eyes hurt a bit, haha. Feels a bit "too" buttery smooth, but the positive side to the situation is the smooth scrolling in web pages, apps and in general. The smooth scrolling eliminate any microlags left behind from Miui 11, and that is a huge plus ( using Xiaomi Eu 5.28) I am sure Miui 12 will get much better, especially with this phone.
I don't particularly go for high end phones, but.........If the Poco brand release the Poco F2 Pro Zoom, then it will be worth buying only because I love the Xiaomi Mi 9T.
I also came from Mi 9T (best all-round/bang for buck phone 2019 IMO), mainly for OIS in the MI note 10.
And my observations (compared to 9T); battery life of mi note 10 noticeably worse despite larger battery. This has improved with android 10, but still not what I'd expect from the battery size (maybe the visionox amoled display is more power hungry?). Not really much improvement from the main camera in most situations (Using gcam on both phones) but easier to get better night shots, but more versatile camera system overall for mi note 10 of course. Mi note 10 has better quality display, but with the hated notch! And I do not really enjoy the curved egdes that gives distorted image quality along the edges, but I can live with it.
And I agree, it is a pity that poco f2 is not based on the zoom edition. OIS + zoom camera is a major dealbreaker.
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I also came from Mi 9T (best all-round/bang for buck phone 2019 IMO), mainly for OIS in the MI note 10.
And my observations (compared to 9T); battery life of mi note 10 noticeably worse despite larger battery. This has improved with android 10, but still not what I'd expect from the battery size (maybe the visionox amoled display is more power hungry?). Not really much improvement from the main camera in most situations (Using gcam on both phones) but easier to get better night shots, but more versatile camera system overall for mi note 10 of course. Mi note 10 has better quality display, but with the hated notch! And I do not really enjoy the curved egdes that gives distorted image quality along the edges, but I can live with it.
And I agree, it is a pity that poco f2 is not based on the zoom edition. OIS + zoom camera is a major dealbreaker.
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Very true, I would be great if they release a Pro edition. Meanwhile it seems like the Mi Note 10 will have another variant with a Snapdragon 775 and 12x optical zoom, possibly with periscope zoom. Plus support for 120x digital zoom. For sure when more details will be reveal soon, I will definitely stick with this phone until its succesor arrive.
I realy love the Mi 9T too, the experience with that device was similar ti when I had the Mi Mix with its 4500mah and full screen.
Hello
Next week im buying new mobile and need your help to choose one
My deliberation is among the following devices:
Mi 10 8/256: (we have no Mi 10 Pro in my country )
Pros:
( + ) Good camera
( + ) Good cooling.
( + ) Good battery life.
( + ) Good screen.
( + ) Good Speakers.
Cons:
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom.
Pocophone F2 Pro 8/256:
Pros:
( + ) Good cooling.
( + ) Good battery life.
( + ) Fast.
Cons:
( - ) Weak vibration motor.
( - ) Lack of OIS on cam just EIS.
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom
OnePlus 8 256/12:
Pros:
( + ) Good Speakers.
( + ) 12GB RAM.
( + ) Near stock android.
Cons:
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom.
( - ) Mediocre camera
( - ) Small battery compared to Mi10 / F2 PRO
Who told you the vibration is bad on the Poco f2 pro?
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So it's simple, if you care about camera, go for mi 10.
If you care about a full screen display without a horrible punch hole, go for Poco f2
Out of these 3 , there's not reason to go for OnePlus. Mi 10 has a bigger battery, bigger screen, and looks better
One thing the OnePlus 8 has going for it is the dev community is good.
I thought this phone would have more Devs!
The poco f2 pro camera is a very good camera, macro mode is amazing, and the gcam make a perfect work.
I only wait a more kinds of roms for this beast.
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Who told you the vibration is bad on the Poco f2 pro?
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So it's simple, if you care about camera, go for mi 10.
If you care about a full screen display without a horrible punch hole, go for Poco f2
Out of these 3 , there's not reason to go for OnePlus. Mi 10 has a bigger battery, bigger screen, and looks better
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MKHD mentioned that the vibration motor is "fine" thats why i've mentioned it.
Anyone has Mi 10 Non-pro \ Pocophone F2 Pro and give their opinion?
2nd question, do you think that 8GB ram is enough for the next 2yr's?
That's why i was considering the OP8 256/12 in first place
Again thanks helping me guys
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MKHD mentioned that the vibration motor is "fine" thats why i've mentioned it.
Anyone has Mi 10 Non-pro \ Pocophone F2 Pro and give their opinion?
2nd question, do you think that 8GB ram is enough for the next 2yr's?
That's why i was considering the OP8 256/12 in first place
Again thanks helping me guys
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I can compare the vibra motor to a mi 9t pro and even to an iPhone 11 pro max (I own both as well as the poco). I have to say I quite like it. Its a great improvement from the last years mi 9t pro and not falling much behind of the iPhone. Over all its a good experience.
Why do you think 8gb isn't enough? I strongly recommend you to read about how a smartphone memory works. Unused Ram can also have a hit on the battery life. Therefore as others suggested I wouldn't go for the OP 8Pro, don't even mention its nearly double the price of the poco. GL with your purchase.
I'm seeing 5-6gb ram usage on my F2 Pro. Still plenty to spare.
I only see 1 phone better than Poco F2 if you are willing to pay more, and it's the Oneplus 8 Pro, I prefer the Poco F2 Pro over Mi 10 and normal Oneplus 8.
So my recomendation is if you want pay more get the Oneplus 8 Pro not the normal version, if you want better price and this year phone Poco F2 Pro is the best one quality/price. And counting 2019 phones Realme X2 Pro or Oneplus 7T are amazing also.
Many thanks guys going for the F2Pro
Btw these arrived today from AliExpress
Hope they are good...
Nice one mate. I'm sure you'll enjoy this phone. Can't put mine down lol.
I was deciding between the exact same devices. The OnePlus 8 Pro and the Poco F2 Pro. Although I kind of see different pros and cons.
For myself I don't play games and would choose the lower res and lower refresh screen to get additional hours in battery.
I don't do a lot of photos, so can likely get by without OIS on the camera. The option for to have the headphone jack, pop up camera, infrared and longer battery was enough to make me go for the Poco F2 Pro.
I haven't received one yet, but ordered one, so I hope I haven't made a mistake. Still no custom ROMs for this phone, so hopefully there are some options soon.
I probably won't open the phone until there's some ROMs, if I can't get LineageOS for it, I'll probably sell it and go for the OnePlus 8 Pro.
OnePlus 8 Pro
Pros: 120Htz Screen, Wireless Charging, Water Proof, Camera
Cons: No headphone jack, front camera hole punch
Poco F2 Pro
Pros: Price, Battery life, headphone jack, pop up camera (for security reasons), InfraRed (old, but handy), full display with no cut out
Cons: No OIS on Camera, More limited with custom ROMs than OnePlus
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I probably won't open the phone until there's some ROMs, if I can't get LineageOS for it, I'll probably sell it and go for the OnePlus 8 Pro.
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There's a 7 day cool down on bootloader unlock for this device so I'd recommend you do the unlock process when you first get it to start the timer. This won't unlock the phone unless you do the unlock process again after 7 days.
That way you can unlock and start modding whenever you are ready rather than waiting 7 days from the point you decide to start modding.