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Hi all,
Since HC3.1 starts supporting gaming controllers, what other native games (non-emulator) have you found working with your PS3/XBox controller with your TF ?
Here's the working list for PS3 via USB
1) Cordy
2) Gem Miner: Dig deeper (R d-pad or analog to move, L3 to deploy ladder)
3) Pinball by Magma Mobile games (Map-able keys but only runs on potrait mode)
4) Amageddonoid (Fully functional but small screen play)
5) Grave Digger Full & Free (DPad to control, Circle to dig)
6) Battle Bears Lite - Xperia play (Playable - Almost all keys working need to investigate further)
7) Zenonia 2 (All except special binded actions doesn't work; need to press on screen to activate - fair I guess)
I'm testing and will update here of my findings, please contribute if you had found any. Your best bet is to look for games that had been optimized for Xperia Play gamepad (or just Xperia Play).
Quick side Q on this...
Was anyone able to get their X360/PS3 pad working wirelessly? With the x360, you'd need to USB-to-PC receiver, and I have one but wasn't able to get it going. Otherwise, maybe the PS3 one would work wirelessly?
I also tried my Play N Charge cable for my x360 controller, but that didn't work either (reported that said cable does not supply data, only current).
So, I guess what I'm asking is...Is the only way to get X360/PS3 controllers working is if you wire them into the USB port on the dock? If it's an X360 pad, of course you would need a traditional wired version I also assume.
Failing these pads, I'm still going to try to get a Datel Retro Wii Classic Wireless pad, but they're sold out everywhere!
(didn't mean to bring this off-topic, but to answer your Q, I can only backup your report of Cordy. It works for me with my WiiMote)
I've only played Cordy with a controller, and it didn't seem to like my USB Saturn pad. Considering that 3.1 is brand new, I doubt developers have been given enough time to start adding support for gamepads, and even then I'm still not even sure if it will be a popular feature. The Acer Iconia is the only Honeycomb tablet that has a standard USB port on the tablet itself, while the Transformer requires the keyboard dock and the Xoom needs an adapter, and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 doesn't even support an adapter.
I think gamepad support is going to be isolated to emulators for a while, at least until a major developer decides to build a high-profile game that is best played with a controller. But even then there's the issue of building a game around the requirement that the consumer go out and buy a third party accessory. Consumers are historically stubborn and lazy, and will often refuse to purchase extra peripherals for gaming systems if they can get away with using the included controls on the system.
PCs don't often see ports of high profile console games because the developers lose a lot of sales by trying to force the consumers to buy an extra game controller to play their game, and those that plan on doing without expect that the developers are going to make the game playable on keyboard/mouse anyway. The same principle would apply to tablets and phones, wherein consumers are going to expect to be able to play all games simply by using the accelerometer and touch screen. It's tough to sell a game that needs extra peripherals, especially when you don't have the support of a major game company like Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony. Using existing gamepads is a great feature, but there's no way to enforce the usage of one particular gamepad unless someone offers a game and gamepad together in a single bundle.
Only time will tell if gamepads are going to become more popular on Android.
scar45 said:
Quick side Q on this...
Was anyone able to get their X360/PS3 pad working wirelessly? With the x360, you'd need to USB-to-PC receiver, and I have one but wasn't able to get it going. Otherwise, maybe the PS3 one would work wirelessly?
I also tried my Play N Charge cable for my x360 controller, but that didn't work either (reported that said cable does not supply data, only current).
So, I guess what I'm asking is...Is the only way to get X360/PS3 controllers working is if you wire them into the USB port on the dock? If it's an X360 pad, of course you would need a traditional wired version I also assume.
Failing these pads, I'm still going to try to get a Datel Retro Wii Classic Wireless pad, but they're sold out everywhere!
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I use my keyboard dock for all USB devices, so I can't comment on the wireless capabilities for 360/PS3 controllers. I do know though that Datel's wireless Wii controller is available directly from the Codejunkies website.
Edit: I just noticed the controller is out of stock. That makes me sad.
I noticed that the controller maps to the direction keys as well. For example, I remember trying to use the controller to scroll to the next home screen in launcher pro. Hence if there are games that uses the direction keys on an android device that has keyboard (i.e. G1), there may be chance that we can use controller to control the game instead.
Btw, I mean it's wired controlled, not wireless...
There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
hisoka99 said:
There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
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You have 2 solutions Friend!
1) Install the application Kainy, use PC mode controller. And with gamekeyboard emulate analog like the mouse to control the camera in some games.
2) Install a Rom Android 4.0 or higher, and with the application USB / BT Joystick Center (which is better than gamekeyboard) and use the analog and mouse, and configure other keys to your liking.
Hope that helps,
If you need any help leave a more detailed tutorial
Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
rubbergnome said:
Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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So there is no app i can use directly to emulate and map analogs on play?Altough i think it can be done somehow...
Maybe it can be done with Droidmote but i have a hard time installing drivers and it is getting very messy
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Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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but tasted the latest verson 1.40??
eh read that has some bugs, but it's pretty configurable within everything. And it depends on the PC and Internet speed you have, and you wear rom installed. For applications Gamekeyboard Kainy & USB BT Joystick Center or go smoother.
I have a 10 mb connection & a PC (Intel Quad Core i7 3770, AMD graphics card Radeon HD 6850 1GB DDR5, and 8 gigs of ram and GTA 4 is playable on my Xplay as gods.
For PS2 games on PC emulator. Kainy + USB / BT Joystick Center is excellent. Eh I did not tested yet, but I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfT64J3NZKg
Tincore keymapper
Play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tincore.and.keymapper&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50aW5jb3JlLmFuZC5rZXltYXBwZXIiXQ..
Wiki
http://tincore.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page
Support group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tincore-contact
Control your touch only games with most keyboard, joysticks, gamepad or your phone or tablet buttons. Remap the functions of any key, button, mouse...
Support BT and USB connected including Wiimotes. Wiimotes do not work on Android 4.2 due to OS incompatibilities.
Supports more than one gamepad/keyboard at a time.
More than 8 different touch interactions per button/stick.
Create profiles for your games/apps and have them automatically applied on the fly.
Simple, intutitive and well Holo integrated UI.
Very high game compatibility and lag-free performance.
Device compatibility is steadily improving. Help me with your support.
If you are a manufacturer/distributor and you want your device supported natively please send email to: [email protected]
An experimental IME is added. It can be controlled with gamepads. It is NOT mandatory to use it. You can combine the application with other IME.
__IMPORTANT________
This application requires root for advanced mapping modes.
General simple mapping video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2LzTYshWm4
MC4 keyboard and mouse example. Thanks Erwin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g_iB1_s0k4
Downloads:
http://tincore.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page#Download
Supported devices:
The application is rather universal. Most of devices should work, specially if rooted
Just a small list:
Asus TF700
GPD 5005
GPD 7018
GPD G5A
IBENx L1
JXD 5110B
JXD 7300B
JXD 7800B
JXD 5800B
Minix
IreadyGo Much I5
Nexus
Nvidia Shield
Ouya
Sony Xperia Play
Gametel
Ipega 9017
Ipega 9017S
Ipega 9025
Lemon Gamepad
Logitech Rumblepad 2
Logitech F310 F510 F710
Madcatz CTRLR BT/USB
Moga Pocket
Moga Pro
Moga Power
Nyko Playpad and Nyko Playpad Pro
Ouya Controller
PS2 Controllers
PS3 Sixaxis controller
Snakebyte Idroid
Wamo Pro / G910
XBOX Controllers
Reserved (for posting videos)
Video List (Samples of use)
Working beautifully in my smart q t20 tab with an ipega BT controller.
I use option scr invert X and swap X/Y, in out device
Great work! Much better than sixaxis controller and free!!!
This could be a great tool to get some games working on an OUYA. I'll play around with this as soon as I have the time and report back! Thanks!
I have been able to get the ouya control sticks working by swapping x/y axises and inverting the x axis. So far I have set this up for dead tiger and minecraft.
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_swap=1
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_x=X
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_x_invert=1
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_y=Y
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_y_invert=0
2.8.4
Estabilization of network remote modes.
Estabilization of touch as input.
New mode absolute touch.
New modes virtual pointer (hybrido mouse/touch). Very useful in NFS for non touch devices.
Xperia play touchpad support (ask for instructions in the forum if you dont know how to do it)
Other fixes and optimizations.
2.6.4
Analog stick calibration
2.6.0
Many bugs corrected.
Experimental remote and touch as input modes and a lot of other things here and there.
are there any video tutorials? or step by step guides? Honestly I have no idea how to use this and didn't understand the wiki page
Exclude devices
Is there any way to exclude device that is conected beacause you dont want to use it in games?
for example i have Conectet to my ouya wireless usb keyboard and mouse witch i dont use in games...
without some tutorials, this is useless! i appreciate the time you spent making this but most of us here have no idea how to use it.
the videos on youtube show just some people paying games, no real DEMONSTRATION.
i'm using NYKO playpad pro and i can't control most of my games.
this might be the right app.
Awesome!
Thank you Tincore, I must say this app is very useful not only for gaming but for my home entertainment.
I use my S4 connected to TV via MHL adapter and ipega wireless controller, both works pretty good and setup is quite easy for me.
To make it more perfect, it possible to have auto load profile to a specific profile? because I want my non games use specific profile (with hybrid virtual pointer and home,back,etc shortcut so I can easily go around the launcher and other app movie, gallery from my couch) but when launching specific game, I want it to load specific game profile.
Also can you explain extra paid support feature below,
- Add extra touch controls? --> what other extra touch? why is it useful?
- Analog stick input? --> I dont understand, sorry
Each extra feature has different price and almost $25 for all features, do you have premium one with cheaper price
I don't see any overlaid buttons at all when I have my Moga connected to my Nexus 4. Are they supposed to show up automatically when I open Tincore?
Edit - figured it out, have to press buttons to get them to show up, working perfectly now
How do you do to use it with a bluetooth gamepad?
It doesn't seem to recongnize my gamepad if I hit the refresh option on tincore and click que bluetooth sync button on the gamepad, so how is it supposed to connect to the gamepad?
Is there someone who can help me to setup my moga pro to play at order and chaos?!
Michealtbh? Can you help me?
Envoyé depuis mon HTC One en utilisant Tapatalk 4
What problems are you having exactly? It's fairly easy to use
Michealtbh said:
What problems are you having exactly? It's fairly easy to use
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I can't find the way to right setup my moga pro to play in order and chaos?!
Nothing is going right.
Rob1ou said:
I can't find the way to right setup my moga pro to play in order and chaos?!
Nothing is going right.
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Open Tincore then minimize it. Open the game, launch Tincore while in the game (I use Smart Statusbar to help with this) then map the buttons. It couldn't be easier.
You really need to be more specific if you need help.
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man.. i really need your help. i have lenovo s920 and.. i tried to pair it with ipega via tincore. but it doesnt work,, just force close. i try blueimez and bt joystick and it just the same. but only tincore can detect my ipega. my you have a solution..
my s920 run in jelly bean 4.2.1.
I still can't get a hang of it of Tincore Keymapper. Im trying mapped keys for touch screen games mc4, shadowgun,fifa, codboz, etc for use with xbox 360 wireless controller on a mk802iv android pc mini. Basically, whenever I make tincore visible to mapped out the touch screen keys, it either pause the game or black it out. I probably gonna have to use post-it notes to tape position of touch keys on my smart tv. Even opening the app is a pain in the ass cause most of the times it just force close out tincore. Plus, the 2 triggers buttons R2 and L2 are unusable in tincore.
Most of times, I learned how to use apps by tinking around for about a few minutes. I have been playing around with Tincore for a week now and still clueless about how to use it. wish there was a dumb-down tutorial on it.
Whats new on incoming
3.0.3 (beta)
Application autostart option (checkbox in OPERATION section) This only works if app is installed in internal memory.
Immediate minimize on start (checkbox in OPERATION section)
Application starts without root in BASIC MODE ONLY. You will need to activate the IME and ONLY KEY MODES are available. For now you should be able to use BT, image, accelerometers and *SOME* USB gamepads as input devices. I accept donations of USB or BT controllers to increase support.
USB (without root) new device supported HUIJIA gamepad
USB (without root) new device supported Logitech rumblepad 2
BT device supported Moga Pocket
BT device supported Moga Pro
Console Much i5 support
Operation mode mute. Disables button/key.
Manage unknown keys option (checkbox in DEVICES section)
Home button mapping
Partial off screen option for buttons as well. (checkbox in UI section)
Boot warning change
Joystick keypresses not showing bug fix. I.E. Keypresses were not recognized by Dead trigger.
Dpad default keys non default dpad keys fix
Slideshow on boot
So I've done my first attempts at PC streaming last night with my shield. I noticed I could only use touch controls until I did the double finger tap or the hardware button that brings up that little overlay with home/help/etc. Once I close this overlay, joystick control of the UI stopped and it was back to just touch. As an example, I pulled up Hearthstone on the shield. I had touch control only but the joysticks worked fine when using the grid beta (I tried some Red Faction). How do I use the joysticks while doing PC Streaming? I saw in nvidia's faq/demo video that he's playing Borderlands 2 on the shield and using the joysticks.
As an aside, I'm rooted, button savior is running and haven't yet upgraded to the kitkat OTA but it is there waiting.
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So I've done my first attempts at PC streaming last night with my shield. I noticed I could only use touch controls until I did the double finger tap or the hardware button that brings up that little overlay with home/help/etc. Once I close this overlay, joystick control of the UI stopped and it was back to just touch. As an example, I pulled up Hearthstone on the shield. I had touch control only but the joysticks worked fine when using the grid beta (I tried some Red Faction). How do I use the joysticks while doing PC Streaming? I saw in nvidia's faq/demo video that he's playing Borderlands 2 on the shield and using the joysticks.
As an aside, I'm rooted, button savior is running and haven't yet upgraded to the kitkat OTA but it is there waiting.
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Is Hearthstone the only game you've tried? Hearthstone does not support controllers afaik (the supported game list shows that it supports m&k though). You may want to try a game that does support it, such as L4D2 or Borderlands 2 as you mentioned.
Other than that I haven't had issues playing supported games with the controller.
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Is Hearthstone the only game you've tried? Hearthstone does not support controllers afaik (the supported game list shows that it supports m&k though). You may want to try a game that does support it, such as L4D2 or Borderlands 2 as you mentioned.
Other than that I haven't had issues playing supported games with the controller.
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Well what's available to me atm is Stick of Truth, Hearthstone, Titanfall, few others. So it has to be on the supported list for the joysticks to handle cursor movement in the UI? When the little overlay is up, the joystick will move the arrow and the buttons act as mouse clicks. Once I close the UI, it's back to touch only.
NapalmDawn said:
Well what's available to me atm is Stick of Truth, Hearthstone, Titanfall, few others. So it has to be on the supported list for the joysticks to handle cursor movement in the UI? When the little overlay is up, the joystick will move the arrow and the buttons act as mouse clicks. Once I close the UI, it's back to touch only.
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On that list I linked, when it shows the mouse and keyboard symbol, it means that it supports bluetooth or usb mouse and keyboard. The gamepad on the shield will send signals as a gamepad in any streamed game, no matter what. It doesn't mean that the controller can be used as a mouse, unfortunately.
So basically, South Park and Titanfall will work fine with the Shield controller, but Hearthstone does not have controller support, and Shield won't act as a mouse like it does in the usual Android interface for it.
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On that list I linked, when it shows the mouse and keyboard symbol, it means that it supports bluetooth or usb mouse and keyboard. The gamepad on the shield will send signals as a gamepad in any streamed game, no matter what. It doesn't mean that the controller can be used as a mouse, unfortunately.
So basically, South Park and Titanfall will work fine with the Shield controller, but Hearthstone does not have controller support, and Shield won't act as a mouse like it does in the usual Android interface for it.
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Thanks hurrp.
I've got an Archos Gamepad 2 ... Got a problem with some games as they auto find and configure on the controller's buttons (asphalt 8 and Impulsion)
Asphalt mapping is cool, but impulsion doesn't show the on screen controls so that i can re-map them and the only pre-mapped working control is the left analog for movement... no shoot/slash control mapped by default ...
Is there a way to disable the built in controller ??? or a tool to fake the games that there is no controller attached
And if there is a way to disable the controller will the on screen controls appear
this seems to be a common issue with android devices that has built in controller (Xperia Play - Archos Gamepad 2 - jxd s7800b)
Thanks in advance
game list update
Asphalt 8 airborne
Impulsion
Neon Shadow
Shadowgun
Modern Combat 4
same issue
Sorry to revive this thread but I have the same question as the op and I have the same problem with the game Implosion in my archos gamepad 2, any solutions? op did you find an answer?
The same happens with the amazing spiderman 2 game, please any solutions guys?
Have the same problem again in the lego game complete saga for android, please help. I hate when games don't give you the option to enable touch screen controls even if it detects a gamepad.
Hey I rooted my device, any way to alter the games files so that they don't detect the archos gamepad 2 as an external controller?
so no one dev knows?
Tried Tincore Keymapper to simulate other external controllers, but the game implosion still does not work, so how do these games detect the archos gamepad input?
Implosion was updated recently, I think they tried to add support for the archos gamepad 2 because the tutorial screen now shows controller buttons but the game still has the same issue, only the left stick works, maybe it is because the archos built in controller is 2 different devices, the buttons are joy_key and the sticks are joystick.
I am root, any files I can delete to disable the built in controller?
Bump still no solution any ideas?
its no use ... ditch it
@Talos91 ... seems nobody is interested ... i really regret the tablet now ... anyways its ditched somewhere in my backpack and every now and then i recharge it when i need it, some casual touch games are on it ... its jelly beans and CANNOT be updated to any new version ... guess thats it for Archos gamepad2 ... or maybe for Archos itself ... not gonna buy any of their products again ... doesnt worth it
Sorry to hear that but the tablet is still great for emulators, they work great like retroarch, drastic, epsxe and ppsspp. Also some fire tv games work on the archos like shovel knight and not to mention the good android games with no iaps work great too like ittle dew and wayward souls.
In sys/devices/platform/joystick are the files of the analog input, maybe if you erase those file implosion could work.
You can not delete or rename those files even with root for some reason.
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You can not delete or rename those files even with root for some reason.
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i was looking up lolipop roms for us but for some reason download links doesnt work for me and i feel a big fake underneath
Yeah it seems fake, have you tried this?
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/forum/archos-gamepad/archos-gamepad-rooted/
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Anyone else with a archos gamepad 2
Is there any way to disable system input devices?
Any help? Is there any way to merge the two input devices into one? Merge the "joystick" and "joy_key"