So I've done my first attempts at PC streaming last night with my shield. I noticed I could only use touch controls until I did the double finger tap or the hardware button that brings up that little overlay with home/help/etc. Once I close this overlay, joystick control of the UI stopped and it was back to just touch. As an example, I pulled up Hearthstone on the shield. I had touch control only but the joysticks worked fine when using the grid beta (I tried some Red Faction). How do I use the joysticks while doing PC Streaming? I saw in nvidia's faq/demo video that he's playing Borderlands 2 on the shield and using the joysticks.
As an aside, I'm rooted, button savior is running and haven't yet upgraded to the kitkat OTA but it is there waiting.
NapalmDawn said:
So I've done my first attempts at PC streaming last night with my shield. I noticed I could only use touch controls until I did the double finger tap or the hardware button that brings up that little overlay with home/help/etc. Once I close this overlay, joystick control of the UI stopped and it was back to just touch. As an example, I pulled up Hearthstone on the shield. I had touch control only but the joysticks worked fine when using the grid beta (I tried some Red Faction). How do I use the joysticks while doing PC Streaming? I saw in nvidia's faq/demo video that he's playing Borderlands 2 on the shield and using the joysticks.
As an aside, I'm rooted, button savior is running and haven't yet upgraded to the kitkat OTA but it is there waiting.
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Is Hearthstone the only game you've tried? Hearthstone does not support controllers afaik (the supported game list shows that it supports m&k though). You may want to try a game that does support it, such as L4D2 or Borderlands 2 as you mentioned.
Other than that I haven't had issues playing supported games with the controller.
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Is Hearthstone the only game you've tried? Hearthstone does not support controllers afaik (the supported game list shows that it supports m&k though). You may want to try a game that does support it, such as L4D2 or Borderlands 2 as you mentioned.
Other than that I haven't had issues playing supported games with the controller.
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Well what's available to me atm is Stick of Truth, Hearthstone, Titanfall, few others. So it has to be on the supported list for the joysticks to handle cursor movement in the UI? When the little overlay is up, the joystick will move the arrow and the buttons act as mouse clicks. Once I close the UI, it's back to touch only.
NapalmDawn said:
Well what's available to me atm is Stick of Truth, Hearthstone, Titanfall, few others. So it has to be on the supported list for the joysticks to handle cursor movement in the UI? When the little overlay is up, the joystick will move the arrow and the buttons act as mouse clicks. Once I close the UI, it's back to touch only.
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On that list I linked, when it shows the mouse and keyboard symbol, it means that it supports bluetooth or usb mouse and keyboard. The gamepad on the shield will send signals as a gamepad in any streamed game, no matter what. It doesn't mean that the controller can be used as a mouse, unfortunately.
So basically, South Park and Titanfall will work fine with the Shield controller, but Hearthstone does not have controller support, and Shield won't act as a mouse like it does in the usual Android interface for it.
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On that list I linked, when it shows the mouse and keyboard symbol, it means that it supports bluetooth or usb mouse and keyboard. The gamepad on the shield will send signals as a gamepad in any streamed game, no matter what. It doesn't mean that the controller can be used as a mouse, unfortunately.
So basically, South Park and Titanfall will work fine with the Shield controller, but Hearthstone does not have controller support, and Shield won't act as a mouse like it does in the usual Android interface for it.
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Thanks hurrp.
Related
this topic androidguys.com/2011/10/24/turn-your-galaxy-nexus-into-a-pocket-console-with-ice-cream-sandwich/ made me think about gamign on the transformer, using the qwerty keyboard - is it possible to use the WASD keys similar to gaming on the PC? do I need a special app for capturing the key presses and "translating" them into something most android games can use?
well, no, however, most games don't use the keyboard anyway. Most emulators will support the keyboard right off the bat. If you're talking about flash games then, yes, it will work perfectly for those however, don't expect good mouse control in flash games. So, it really depends on the game because, to most apps, the dock is just like an attached keyboard and will treat it as such. Also, you CAN use a wii, ps3, or wired xbox 360 controller for games, it that's your thing (mario kart plays really well with the wii and nunchuck controller, just sayin)
Anybody able to successfully get all the key mapping correctly to play with Shadowgun? The game is fun, but would be GREAT if I could use my PS3 controller.
I got up, down, left, right, fire and reload to get mapped...but I need camera tilt to work properly when I am walking, having to use the screen to move around the camera kinda defeats the purpose of it.
I am posting this in 2 places, I wasn't really sure which would be best...but MODS feel free to remove/merge the one that doesn't need to be used. I just want to know if anyone was able to get this working properly
What a game this is, im playing on the tablet, havnt got a dock, doesnt answer ur question sorry, but awesome game
Sent from my HTC Runnymede using XDA App
I'm running the latest Revolver ROM and both analogs worked out of the box.
Remapped as follows:
R1 = Trigger/Action
Triangle = Reload
Up = Weapon 1
Left = Weapon 2
Right = Weapon 3
Down = Weapon 4
I have to say that I'm pretty blown away by the game. Screen controls are pretty good, game play is fun and the graphics are just amazing.
With the sixaxis app or plugged in via USB on the dock?
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Plugged in via USB.
Never used the sixaxis app unfortunately
I got everything working and all keys mapped, sorry for the video quality but I was only using one hand. I didn't have my tripod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFq-cEkZVBM
I have it all working on mine - I have a guide at my blog on how to do it all. It's awesome with HDMI out.
Its working perfectly on my transformer/dock with a sixaxis official PS3 controller plugged in via USB.
You guys think there's a way to use the keyboard dock to control games like Shadowgun and maybe others? Would be really great!
Another question: Are only PS3 controllers supported or are Xbox 360 controllers working as well?
Nevermind that question, found the answer already.
qwer23 said:
You guys think there's a way to use the keyboard dock to control games like Shadowgun and maybe others? Would be really great
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Yes I use the dock to control Shadowgun..
default keys are:
Arrows: movement
I,J,K,L: look and aim
8: shoot (I don't rememeber well)
but using keyboard it's not so comfortable..maybe you could use a joypad..
7-Reload
D-Pad Center-Fire
D-Pad Up, Left, Down, Right-Analog 1
A-Shotgun
D-SMG
I-Analog 2 Up
J-Analog 2 Left
K-Analog 2 Down
L-Analog 2 Right
S-Rocket Launcher
W-Grenade Launcher
Back-Pause Game
Those are all the keys for those of you using a keyboard
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Its working perfectly on my transformer/dock with a sixaxis official PS3 controller plugged in via USB.
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you just plug it in and it work? i cannot get it to work. my controller just blinks and turns on my ps3. i need help
Unplug your ps3 or switch it off on the back. Once that is done, plug in your controller and press the home button, after that you can map the buttons within the game.
Yesterday i have added a new tab dedicated to the multitouch gamepad in Droidmote Server / Client. (remote control tablet with your phone)
i have tested Shadowgun and it work superlative. in a day i publish a video to show how it works.
Arrows: movement
I,J,K,L: look and aim
8: shoot
for aassign I,J,K,L,8 to your button open generic.kl and remap the buttons keys to this letters.
As I promised here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZWPAs3dxU
for more information go to the specific thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292627
There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
hisoka99 said:
There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
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You have 2 solutions Friend!
1) Install the application Kainy, use PC mode controller. And with gamekeyboard emulate analog like the mouse to control the camera in some games.
2) Install a Rom Android 4.0 or higher, and with the application USB / BT Joystick Center (which is better than gamekeyboard) and use the analog and mouse, and configure other keys to your liking.
Hope that helps,
If you need any help leave a more detailed tutorial
Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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So there is no app i can use directly to emulate and map analogs on play?Altough i think it can be done somehow...
Maybe it can be done with Droidmote but i have a hard time installing drivers and it is getting very messy
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Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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but tasted the latest verson 1.40??
eh read that has some bugs, but it's pretty configurable within everything. And it depends on the PC and Internet speed you have, and you wear rom installed. For applications Gamekeyboard Kainy & USB BT Joystick Center or go smoother.
I have a 10 mb connection & a PC (Intel Quad Core i7 3770, AMD graphics card Radeon HD 6850 1GB DDR5, and 8 gigs of ram and GTA 4 is playable on my Xplay as gods.
For PS2 games on PC emulator. Kainy + USB / BT Joystick Center is excellent. Eh I did not tested yet, but I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfT64J3NZKg
Tincore keymapper
Play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tincore.and.keymapper&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50aW5jb3JlLmFuZC5rZXltYXBwZXIiXQ..
Wiki
http://tincore.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page
Support group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tincore-contact
Control your touch only games with most keyboard, joysticks, gamepad or your phone or tablet buttons. Remap the functions of any key, button, mouse...
Support BT and USB connected including Wiimotes. Wiimotes do not work on Android 4.2 due to OS incompatibilities.
Supports more than one gamepad/keyboard at a time.
More than 8 different touch interactions per button/stick.
Create profiles for your games/apps and have them automatically applied on the fly.
Simple, intutitive and well Holo integrated UI.
Very high game compatibility and lag-free performance.
Device compatibility is steadily improving. Help me with your support.
If you are a manufacturer/distributor and you want your device supported natively please send email to: [email protected]
An experimental IME is added. It can be controlled with gamepads. It is NOT mandatory to use it. You can combine the application with other IME.
__IMPORTANT________
This application requires root for advanced mapping modes.
General simple mapping video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2LzTYshWm4
MC4 keyboard and mouse example. Thanks Erwin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g_iB1_s0k4
Downloads:
http://tincore.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page#Download
Supported devices:
The application is rather universal. Most of devices should work, specially if rooted
Just a small list:
Asus TF700
GPD 5005
GPD 7018
GPD G5A
IBENx L1
JXD 5110B
JXD 7300B
JXD 7800B
JXD 5800B
Minix
IreadyGo Much I5
Nexus
Nvidia Shield
Ouya
Sony Xperia Play
Gametel
Ipega 9017
Ipega 9017S
Ipega 9025
Lemon Gamepad
Logitech Rumblepad 2
Logitech F310 F510 F710
Madcatz CTRLR BT/USB
Moga Pocket
Moga Pro
Moga Power
Nyko Playpad and Nyko Playpad Pro
Ouya Controller
PS2 Controllers
PS3 Sixaxis controller
Snakebyte Idroid
Wamo Pro / G910
XBOX Controllers
Reserved (for posting videos)
Video List (Samples of use)
Working beautifully in my smart q t20 tab with an ipega BT controller.
I use option scr invert X and swap X/Y, in out device
Great work! Much better than sixaxis controller and free!!!
This could be a great tool to get some games working on an OUYA. I'll play around with this as soon as I have the time and report back! Thanks!
I have been able to get the ouya control sticks working by swapping x/y axises and inverting the x axis. So far I have set this up for dead tiger and minecraft.
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_swap=1
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_x=X
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_x_invert=1
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_y=Y
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_y_invert=0
2.8.4
Estabilization of network remote modes.
Estabilization of touch as input.
New mode absolute touch.
New modes virtual pointer (hybrido mouse/touch). Very useful in NFS for non touch devices.
Xperia play touchpad support (ask for instructions in the forum if you dont know how to do it)
Other fixes and optimizations.
2.6.4
Analog stick calibration
2.6.0
Many bugs corrected.
Experimental remote and touch as input modes and a lot of other things here and there.
are there any video tutorials? or step by step guides? Honestly I have no idea how to use this and didn't understand the wiki page
Exclude devices
Is there any way to exclude device that is conected beacause you dont want to use it in games?
for example i have Conectet to my ouya wireless usb keyboard and mouse witch i dont use in games...
without some tutorials, this is useless! i appreciate the time you spent making this but most of us here have no idea how to use it.
the videos on youtube show just some people paying games, no real DEMONSTRATION.
i'm using NYKO playpad pro and i can't control most of my games.
this might be the right app.
Awesome!
Thank you Tincore, I must say this app is very useful not only for gaming but for my home entertainment.
I use my S4 connected to TV via MHL adapter and ipega wireless controller, both works pretty good and setup is quite easy for me.
To make it more perfect, it possible to have auto load profile to a specific profile? because I want my non games use specific profile (with hybrid virtual pointer and home,back,etc shortcut so I can easily go around the launcher and other app movie, gallery from my couch) but when launching specific game, I want it to load specific game profile.
Also can you explain extra paid support feature below,
- Add extra touch controls? --> what other extra touch? why is it useful?
- Analog stick input? --> I dont understand, sorry
Each extra feature has different price and almost $25 for all features, do you have premium one with cheaper price
I don't see any overlaid buttons at all when I have my Moga connected to my Nexus 4. Are they supposed to show up automatically when I open Tincore?
Edit - figured it out, have to press buttons to get them to show up, working perfectly now
How do you do to use it with a bluetooth gamepad?
It doesn't seem to recongnize my gamepad if I hit the refresh option on tincore and click que bluetooth sync button on the gamepad, so how is it supposed to connect to the gamepad?
Is there someone who can help me to setup my moga pro to play at order and chaos?!
Michealtbh? Can you help me?
Envoyé depuis mon HTC One en utilisant Tapatalk 4
What problems are you having exactly? It's fairly easy to use
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What problems are you having exactly? It's fairly easy to use
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I can't find the way to right setup my moga pro to play in order and chaos?!
Nothing is going right.
Rob1ou said:
I can't find the way to right setup my moga pro to play in order and chaos?!
Nothing is going right.
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Open Tincore then minimize it. Open the game, launch Tincore while in the game (I use Smart Statusbar to help with this) then map the buttons. It couldn't be easier.
You really need to be more specific if you need help.
help
man.. i really need your help. i have lenovo s920 and.. i tried to pair it with ipega via tincore. but it doesnt work,, just force close. i try blueimez and bt joystick and it just the same. but only tincore can detect my ipega. my you have a solution..
my s920 run in jelly bean 4.2.1.
I still can't get a hang of it of Tincore Keymapper. Im trying mapped keys for touch screen games mc4, shadowgun,fifa, codboz, etc for use with xbox 360 wireless controller on a mk802iv android pc mini. Basically, whenever I make tincore visible to mapped out the touch screen keys, it either pause the game or black it out. I probably gonna have to use post-it notes to tape position of touch keys on my smart tv. Even opening the app is a pain in the ass cause most of the times it just force close out tincore. Plus, the 2 triggers buttons R2 and L2 are unusable in tincore.
Most of times, I learned how to use apps by tinking around for about a few minutes. I have been playing around with Tincore for a week now and still clueless about how to use it. wish there was a dumb-down tutorial on it.
Whats new on incoming
3.0.3 (beta)
Application autostart option (checkbox in OPERATION section) This only works if app is installed in internal memory.
Immediate minimize on start (checkbox in OPERATION section)
Application starts without root in BASIC MODE ONLY. You will need to activate the IME and ONLY KEY MODES are available. For now you should be able to use BT, image, accelerometers and *SOME* USB gamepads as input devices. I accept donations of USB or BT controllers to increase support.
USB (without root) new device supported HUIJIA gamepad
USB (without root) new device supported Logitech rumblepad 2
BT device supported Moga Pocket
BT device supported Moga Pro
Console Much i5 support
Operation mode mute. Disables button/key.
Manage unknown keys option (checkbox in DEVICES section)
Home button mapping
Partial off screen option for buttons as well. (checkbox in UI section)
Boot warning change
Joystick keypresses not showing bug fix. I.E. Keypresses were not recognized by Dead trigger.
Dpad default keys non default dpad keys fix
Slideshow on boot
EDIT 2: Basically both controllers left and right are detected as A B X Y. There is no dpad. Its amazing that nobody on the Chinese forums (as far as google translate shows)is willing to acknowledge this as an issue. The Right side controller is only detected as a mouse pointer not even a right stick.
EDIT1: CORRECTIONS; The gamepad (LEFT SIDE ONLY) works as a normal HID controller on Other android phones(not on black shark HELO)..PPSSPP detects it as a normal analog. I was wrong in my initial view. However it still does not work on the helo phone properly. DIsabling game dock does not help there must be something else causing the issue. If anyone wants to tell me how to root this phone...I may be able to try a fix
Okay this is more of a warning to people who wish to buy the Black shark helo phone with Gamepad (dual 2.0 left and right). I will try to get a vid review done soon.
So I bought the Helo 128gb/8gb ram:
1. It comes with 1 left side gamepad and a case...(U CANT USE THIS CASE FOR DUAL LEFT AND RIGHT CONTROLLERS!) I had to buy a new Double controller case from aliexp along with the right side controller.
2. THIS IS NOT a HID gamepad. ( for example if you use other external/bluetooth gamepad emulators like ppsspp or games like implosion will detect the controller) This gamepad is not detected by some games iv tested. For example ppsspp will not recognize the Analog stick no matter what you do. Implosion and shadowgun legends straight up Disable touch controllers and fail to work with the gamepad. Moonlight has major problems working with this for gamestreaming
3. This gamepad is fine if you just want to map touch controls via the mapper (as long as the game doesnt auto disable touch controls)
4. The gamepad mapper is broken, the keys cannot be removed from the touchscreen. They stay stuck on the screen even when you dont want to use certain keys.
5. The helo phone has problems with games that support REAL HID gamepads even when no gamepad is connected. These games assume the gamepad is connected to the phone and disable the touch controls. (this is joy event issue which existed on many non HID Iready go Much devices)
6. You can use the Helo Phone with an ipega/other HID gamepads...still this will not help with games that disable touch (implosion wont work even with 3rd party controllers as the device is simply buged like older snail/much game phones ). However Moonlight gamestreaming can work with 3rd party controllers. The black shark 2.0 controls dont work properly as they are not real controllers.
7. There is no L3 /R3
8. Please be aware that most of the youtube videos DONT do proper reviews of this device with the dual game pads and Mainstream Sites dont either. Most are using preview clips and hands on clips as full reviews, these are disingenuous.
9. This wont be fixed. No amount of firmware patches can fix this as its a hardware flaw(judging from my past experience) Yes you can root and disable joy event files in the system folder but that will cause more problems.
10. If you want a proper gaming setup the POCCO F1 or any other Xaomi high end device is far better with a third party mapper/controller. This is simply only useful for touch mapping on casual games that dont have any native controller support..however you will get a better experience with a proper mapper and 3rd party controller.
I wrote this in a rush since there is nothing much out there about this device, a full on proper review is required.