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Hey... so I bought the SGT2 7, the garnet red, 8gb version, JB 4.1.1, and have a couple questions.
1 - The speaker placement is different than most pics I've seen, and even in a different place than the case that came with it! In most of the pics the speaker is on the front of the tab, at the top of portrait mode next to the camera. On my tab the speakers are on the edge, at the bottom in portrait mode and there's 2 of them at each corner. Also the display model at Costco had the speakers on the bottom edge but they boxes showed it on the top front. What's up with that? Did they change the position of it? Is bottom edge the newer version? Do you think it's better on bottom edge or top front?
2 - The main reason I bought it is to use in my car to replace my car stereo/nav unit. I have a 64gb card in my phone that has a lot of music on it. I would like to be able to control that music using my Tab and stream the music from my Tab to the car via BT. Is that possible to control the music that's on my phone and have it output via the Tab? I'm having issues streaming audio using BT from my phone to car, haven't figured out the issue yet so I'm hoping it will work with the Tab, otherwise I'll use the aux cable. I do want the music output to be from the Tab so the phone can stay in my purse unless I need it on the charger.
If it makes any difference I will have the Tab tethered to my phone, rooted HTC Rezound, so that I can use it for internet radio, navi, etc....
Also, heard about TabletTalk. Found DeskSMS. Any rival apps? Suggestions?
3. I saw an older post that said IR wasn't working on custom ROMs, is it working now? That's the other reason I justified buying this, it is supposed to be my univseral remote for all my audio/video equipment at home, working pretty well except it seems the only "other devices" are Apple TV and Roku. Would like to use it for Xbox too since I use that for streaming from pc atm. Is there a better app?
Not planning on rooting the Tab until I'm sure it's going to suit my needs. Costco gives me 90 days to play with it and decide if I want to keep it, so that's nice.
Thanks for any help.
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Hey... so I bought the SGT2 7, the garnet red, 8gb version, JB 4.1.1, and have a couple questions.
1 - The speaker placement is different than most pics I've seen, and even in a different place than the case that came with it! In most of the pics the speaker is on the front of the tab, at the top of portrait mode next to the camera. On my tab the speakers are on the edge, at the bottom in portrait mode and there's 2 of them at each corner. Also the display model at Costco had the speakers on the bottom edge but they boxes showed it on the top front. What's up with that? Did they change the position of it? Is bottom edge the newer version? Do you think it's better on bottom edge or top front?
2 - The main reason I bought it is to use in my car to replace my car stereo/nav unit. I have a 64gb card in my phone that has a lot of music on it. I would like to be able to control that music using my Tab and stream the music from my Tab to the car via BT. Is that possible to control the music that's on my phone and have it output via the Tab? I'm having issues streaming audio using BT from my phone to car, haven't figured out the issue yet so I'm hoping it will work with the Tab, otherwise I'll use the aux cable. I do want the music output to be from the Tab so the phone can stay in my purse unless I need it on the charger.
If it makes any difference I will have the Tab tethered to my phone, rooted HTC Rezound, so that I can use it for internet radio, navi, etc....
Also, heard about TabletTalk. Found DeskSMS. Any rival apps? Suggestions?
3. I saw an older post that said IR wasn't working on custom ROMs, is it working now? That's the other reason I justified buying this, it is supposed to be my univseral remote for all my audio/video equipment at home, working pretty well except it seems the only "other devices" are Apple TV and Roku. Would like to use it for Xbox too since I use that for streaming from pc atm. Is there a better app?
Not planning on rooting the Tab until I'm sure it's going to suit my needs. Costco gives me 90 days to play with it and decide if I want to keep it, so that's nice.
Thanks for any help.
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To send send/receive SMS from tablets, laptops and desktops you could take a look at PopMyPhone. It uses email to bridge between the phone and any email capable device so there are no additional apps required on the tablet. Search the Play store for PopMyPhone
Okay... why would I not get audio from an aux cable out to my aux in on my car?
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Okay... why would I not get audio from an aux cable out to my aux in on my car?
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I'm getting the same issue. I get it literally for like 20 seconds then it cuts out. It's odd
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I'm getting the same issue. I get it literally for like 20 seconds then it cuts out. It's odd
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Yeah, I had it the first time I plugged it in then it disappeared. Then I kept unplugging and plugging back in then switched ends of the cable around and still nothing ever again. Came inside and tried my earbuds and had no issues at all.
The main reason I bought it is to use for my car. Ugh. It doesn't make any sense. I can see there may be reasons why bluetooth streaming might be an issue with my phone since it's rooted and running a global leak, but even that works with the cable no problem.
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Yeah, I had it the first time I plugged it in then it disappeared. Then I kept unplugging and plugging back in then switched ends of the cable around and still nothing ever again. Came inside and tried my earbuds and had no issues at all.
The main reason I bought it is to use for my car. Ugh. It doesn't make any sense. I can see there may be reasons why bluetooth streaming might be an issue with my phone since it's rooted and running a global leak, but even that works with the cable no problem.
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Yea I tried it today for the first time and it played those few seconds then cut out. I was thinking it was the song but no matter what one I selected it kept doing it. I don't have to any issues with my headphones either. Some of the things samsung has done to this tab makes me wonder
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I have the official Samsung USB Connection kit. Both connectors work fine immedeately after boot, but once the device has 'slept' they do not work anymore. I get a notification that the USB Connector is connected, but whatever I insert nothing happens. LEDs (on USB sticks, mice, ...) do not light up which seems to indicate that no power is applied to the port.
I'm running stock Android, rooted. Booting into safe mode makes no difference.
Any ideas what's going on?
You're not the only one, except that in my case USB sticks do light up. IMHO Samsung seriously botched up the automounter in their last update. I wonder how long it's going to take them this time to get their act together and produce a bugfix.
I have exactly the same problem, wich really annoying as I bought this tablet in order to work on it (with a keyboard). I'll try Samsungs suport...
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I have exactly the same problem, wich really annoying as I bought this tablet in order to work on it (with a keyboard). I'll try Samsungs suport...
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Good luck with that. I contacted Samsung support Benelux and was told it was because Amazon Germany had installed "German software" on my tablet.
Trust me, that is NOT the case...
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IMHO Samsung seriously botched up the automounter in their last update.
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I'm not sure it's the automounter. Keyboards and mice show the same problems.
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I'm not sure it's the automounter. Keyboards and mice show the same problems.
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You might be right, I haven't tried one of those yet. Of course, that would mean Samsung botched up the entire USB subsystem of our Note, which is kinda even worse.
Seriously, is anything done about this usb c**kup, or what? I bought my Note, expecting it to replace my venerable Archos 101 which, incidentally, had excellent usb connectivity three blooming years ago and on Android 2.1, only to find out that not only did I have to buy motherloving adapters for the Note, but on top of that that they don't even work properly.
I also came from Archos 10.1 IT so I know your pain...
My only hope is that we will soon get the 4.2 update, and that it will fix this problem.
If not, I'll probably going to flash CM on it to see if this works better.
Unfortunately, I've seen no CM reports that USB host works flawlessly.
sciurius said:
I also came from Archos 10.1 IT so I know your pain...
My only hope is that we will soon get the 4.2 update, and that it will fix this problem.
If not, I'll probably going to flash CM on it to see if this works better.
Unfortunately, I've seen no CM reports that USB host works flawlessly.
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Quick question, has anyone has the adapter problems while on Android 4.1.1? I tried my adapters on a shop showroom model of the Note 10.1 and they worked perfectly, but only afterwards I noticed that Note was running 4.1.1, while mine is up to date with 4.1.2.
I'm just trying to avoid having to send back a piece of equipment that, despite everything, I can barely miss.
One of the USB OTG tools (forgot which one) had a table of functioning USB host versus Android releases and last time I looked the number of 4.1.2 devices that hat USB problems was significantly higher than the 4.1.1 devices. So I have all reason to believe it is a software problem, introduced in 4.1.2.
EDIT: The tool is USB Host Diagnostics from ChainFire.
So, is there an easy way to go back to 4.1.1 on the BigNote? Mine came with 4.1.2 installed anyway and something tells me that, if I ask Amazon to downgrade for me, I'll be answered with a deafening silence, probably with a "Duh?" In there somewhere.
On second thought, scratch the easy part; is there any way to downgrade a BigNote without losing any of Samsung's added value (yes, I happen to consider most os what they added actually valuable).
am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
adiliyo said:
am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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I went from a Galaxy nexus to an N5 and a lot of stuff broke. My voice dialer for one and wifi is wonky for another. Wireless charging heats up the battery so much I've quit using it.
I really like the g2 and thought about returning the N5 and getting one. Only problem is that when the G2 gets kitkat all of the problems I'm having may very well come back. I hope that isn't the case with Miracast as well although LG will probably do better testing.
Good luck with Miracast. Sorry I don't have a way to test it for you.
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am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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I tried it on my friend's LG TV and my own Samsung and neither would get very far - hope it's a simple software bug
What TV you guys using for miracast... My LG TV says wireless display but nothing about miracast
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Miracast wireless Display
Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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so the n4 and n7 on 4.3 work okay but your n5 on 4.4 doesn't?
if so it makes me feel a little better than it's just a software issue that (hopefully) is cleared up soon in an update
Maybe. Both the N5 and 4.4 are different from n4 and 4.3. could be a HW issue. Likely a SW problem.
peter
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Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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I think there's a little confusion here - I understood this to mean:
You have the same problem with wireless connectivity - this is the same as I have noticed that with my N5 and my friends N4, neither of us could connect
With a cable the N4 and N7 work ok - I would expect this to be the case anyway, although I can't test my N5 with a cable as I don't have the USB to HDMI adapter (only one for my old GNex which was MHL which isn't compatible).
i feel like it's less of a hardware issue since miracast worked fine on my g2 and my note3 which are using the same SoC as the n5. maybe i'll try to flash 4.3 back onto my n7 and see if that connects.
is there any way to send this issue to google so they can be made aware of it?
and of course when i decide to do a logcat to see if i can see what's going on when it's trying to connect the phone (and tablet) decide not to see the tv at all for some reason.
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Taomyn said:
I think there's a little confusion here - I understood this to mean:
You have the same problem with wireless connectivity - this is the same as I have noticed that with my N5 and my friends N4, neither of us could connect
With a cable the N4 and N7 work ok - I would expect this to be the case anyway, although I can't test my N5 with a cable as I don't have the USB to HDMI adapter (only one for my old GNex which was MHL which isn't compatible).
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Not what I meant to say. The N4 and N7 work as a wireless display over WiFi as expected.
Peter
Tried to connect my N5 to Panasonic BluRay Model 230 - it finds the device, and then when you try to connect it just sits there, and sits there....
Honestly, where the hell is the V&V testing ?
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Not what I meant to say. The N4 and N7 work as a wireless display over WiFi as expected.
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good to know, so it seems to be a 4.4 issue more than a hardware issue.
maybe i'll downgrade my n7 today to test it out. (i was going to do it before but then the 4.4 update was officially released and of course i had to flash that first!)
i also emailed google support today to see what they have to say. it's frustrating not being able to use it in the car since i don't like the actual UI of my headunit.
adiliyo said:
am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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Kind of off topic here, but how do you like the Eonon head unit? I was thinking about getting one of those for myself! I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
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good to know, so it seems to be a 4.4 issue more than a hardware issue.
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Could be the make and model of the TV as well. I have an LG LA6200 and my N5 connected to it in about 3 seconds. Watched some youtube just for fun. It works fine on mine.
Edit: Asylum OMNI and Faux latest.
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Could be the make and model of the TV as well. I have an LG LA6200 and my N5 connected to it in about 3 seconds. Watched some youtube just for fun. It works fine on mine.
Edit: Asylum OMNI and Faux latest.
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Hmm if a custom kernel might help it might be enough to get me to unlock the boot loader and have to set up everything again...
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Kind of off topic here, but how do you like the Eonon head unit? I was thinking about getting one of those for myself! I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
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it's pretty nice, it matches and fits in my GTI really well and looks very stock in terms of dials and finish, which i like.
i haven't had it long enough to comment on durability, but so far, i haven't had any issues with it. the UI is pretty responsive and quick (i loaded iGO maps onto it for navigation and it's much more responsive than the stock nav that i had before, i'm legitimately impressed with the navigation fluidity.
the radio reception is worse than stock, but the stock HU uses a dual antenna setup, so it's always going to get better reception, but personally i don't listen to the radio if i can help it. SD card mp3 playback is just as good as stock and sounds fine.
A2DP works fine, but you don't get any id3 metadata, which sucks, but it's fine, it connects to the phone very fast and hasn't dropped the connection once.
the dlna app crashes on my n5, i might try the iphone version on my 5s just to see how it works, but i get all my music from google play so i don't know if that will work anyways.
what i bought it for (miralink) i haven't gotten to work on my n5, but hopefully that will work soon and work well enough, because i would much rather use google maps and the play music app through the HU screen. those two things working even 90% of the time and i'll be a very happy camper.
overall for around $300 shipped to my door, it's really not a bad unit.
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it's pretty nice, it matches and fits in my GTI really well and looks very stock in terms of dials and finish, which i like.
i haven't had it long enough to comment on durability, but so far, i haven't had any issues with it. the UI is pretty responsive and quick (i loaded iGO maps onto it for navigation and it's much more responsive than the stock nav that i had before, i'm legitimately impressed with the navigation fluidity.
the radio reception is worse than stock, but the stock HU uses a dual antenna setup, so it's always going to get better reception, but personally i don't listen to the radio if i can help it. SD card mp3 playback is just as good as stock and sounds fine.
A2DP works fine, but you don't get any id3 metadata, which sucks, but it's fine, it connects to the phone very fast and hasn't dropped the connection once.
the dlna app crashes on my n5, i might try the iphone version on my 5s just to see how it works, but i get all my music from google play so i don't know if that will work anyways.
what i bought it for (miralink) i haven't gotten to work on my n5, but hopefully that will work soon and work well enough, because i would much rather use google maps and the play music app through the HU screen. those two things working even 90% of the time and i'll be a very happy camper.
overall for around $300 shipped to my door, it's really not a bad unit.
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Awesome man, thanks for the info!
Does miracast work then? I'm thinking of getting a dongle, or should I just use slimport
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Anyone else have a 2013 lg TV with miracast? I just got one and there is a 10-15 second lag. Its pretty much worthless.
Is there something I'm missing?
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i've tried it with faux's kernel and francos, both don't work for either of my devices. i emailed google and they replied with troubleshooting info but i haven't had a chance to reply to them and try what they have said (really basic stuff, i don't think it will help)
i refuse to go to crappy crappy touchwiz to make this work, but it makes me sad that i can't use my headunit like i want to.
After a lot of reviews and reading I just ordered a 9" Idoing with CanBus for my 2018 WRX with Harman Kardon. A lot of positive reviews from WRX owners, but not seeing a lot of love(or hate) for the Idoing hear on XDA. It's nearly identical to the Joying, but Joying will not support the HK system in my car.
The system is an android 10, UIS 7862 4+64. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32955093508.html
I'm curious what custom options I have in terms of UI, ROMs, Root,, apps?
I'm guessing from what I read(or lack there of) ROMs are a no go, but what about root and other customization options?
Sorry long time rooter and custom ROM user for android phones and tablets, but total noob to android head units.
I have a Kenwood with wireless android auto in my old car and was going to move it to this one, but absolutely hate Android Auto almost as much as I hate mirrorlink in the stock HU in my WRX(shame on you subaru). Also the kit to install it from crutchfield cost nearly as much as the android unit and canbus shipped from china, so figured i'd take a chance.
If it doesn't work out I'll go with the kenwood, but really hopeful this will be a winner. I spent a lot of time on chat with them and they are extremely responsive to questions(really like live chat) where a question to Joying took 3 days to get a response.
I know there is little chance the 4G module will work in the US(IDoing says it works with tmobile) so expecting to use wifi tether with my phone with native apps and pretend android auto doesn't exist. Other option is put a spare phone with sim permanently connected to USB, but unsure if USB tether will work.
I will keep reading, but any thoughts or pointers are welcome. Just don't tell me to replace my HK system, I know not everyone likes it, but I love it ;-)
FAIR WARNING!!!! After a year with no issue, My IDoing fried itself today!! I was driving and it shut down and for about 1 minute I could smell burnt electronics. This was a plug n play install so no cutting, no splicing, no soldering. I am in the process of seeing what IDoing will do for me, but I expect the answer is nothing since it is now over a year old.
Update: Well at least IDoing is talking to me. I pulled the unit out today and put the Stock stereo back in(UGGGH). At least nothing else got fried.
Update 2: So they are saying that they want me to pull the unit off the mounting trim and mail it to them and they will send me a knew one. I'm assuming this is going to cost me 100 bucks in shipping and need to wait a month or more, but it's better response than I expect.
Update 3: They "say" that once I give them tracking number for the unit, they will ship new unit and all i have to pay for is return shipping(30 dollars)
Final Update: Well it cost me a lot more than the USPS web site inferred (85 dollars), but they shipped a replacement the same day I gave them the tracking for the return. New unit showed up in just over a week, Unit looks new installed in less than an hour and all works great, software looks to be nearly identical except the AA software that it came with support wireless out of the box, so small bons. Unfortunate the original unit fried itself after a year, but considering it was out of warranty I have to commend Idoing on how they handled this, now I just need to remember all the tweaks I had installed ;-)
Roms, you have 2 options both are "Lite" versions meaning you have to buy the other features.
No real need for twrp.
Best bet make sure it works with Android auto wireless
Also pay close attention to the button layouts for the different types of screens.
Most development will be in the "Android auto" fourm
Also ask the seller to provided the zlink activation codes
Hmm, I'm curious why I would use AA at all with this as opposed to running apps on the unit with wifi tether? I've used AA Mirror in the past with my kenwood, but would prefer to avoid that path if possible.
It should work with AA, but not wireless as far as I know.
So my unit arrived today:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32955093508.html
Got it to the point of plugging it in to test in the car.
Adding Heating controls vents was a Piece of Cake and this thing looks amazing
Tested:
Screen: Fast and gorgeous responsive, seems very good in bright sunlight
capacitive buttons:, work well , Reset and reprogrammed and much better. Also Illumination is working with custom colors.
Well Documented low volume buzz... Yep it's there, goes away if you mute the radio. Will look for setting to reduce perhaps as well as talk to IDoing
Harman Kardon Canbus, Works plug and play. One issue that may be related is the Fade controls don't really work to fade to rear as they mute the rear, while balance controls work fine... Talking to IDoing now and they just confirmed that any factory amp radio has this issue.
Wifi 5ghz tether, works flawlessly, get 50mbit off my cell. Not the fastest but more than good enough
Play store/google account setup: works flawlessly. Have installed several apps already
Waze/GPS: works flawlessly
USB: 3 dongles, all work for USB Drives, haven't tested for phone connection
Flac: Works off all 3 usb(one main reason I went with this unit)
4g: Working well with t-mobile, not working with verizon. Verizon shows as full bars, bars when I went more urban, but there are no APN settings and I cant get data to work.
Bluetooth audio: works ok, sound doesn't seem fantastic, but i will probably never use.
Android Auto: Wired works great, can't get wireless to work even though my phone says the head unit supports it. Wired it's very fast and responsive and looks great.
Carplay: works wired and woreless, didn't test much as I don't use apple except for app testing.
Fubo/Video: Works very well screen is gorgeous
Developer options: IDoing gave me codes
Launcher: Pretty flexible with different options.
Got USB Debugging, ADB to work today. In developer setting there is 3 "..." at the top, in there is USB mode, top is host mode, bottom is device mode(ADB).
Once I got ADB going I got SystemUITuner granted permissions to control immersive mode for Waze and the like.
Custom Launcher: Got custom launchers working with a trick to use the setting in Nova to set default launcher. Now Rocking Car Web Guru launcher. Also Like Car Launcher Free Version.
Split screen : woks well and is even remembered as last view on soft boot.
Geekbench: 500+, 1300+ very pleased.
android auto with Head unit reloaded: tested with dev server method. Works well with wireless, but UI layout is pretty bad.
Console USB Adapter: Bought from amazon, works perfectly. Now 4 functioning USB
USB access for File Manager : doesn't work yet
Music Apps: do have access to USB
Automation: Used Macrodroid to start Android auto whenever the phone usb is plugged in, or to start spotifiy if no usb and wifi connects. Will do some more of these.
Overall:
Bummed about the rear speaker control, will have to see how much it affects my listening, found subwoofer control an tweaked EQ, sound is quite nice, still wish fade worked. Ok next note to others, make sure you calibrate your EQ with your back seats up. I forgot I had put them down to get my bike in and that was half my disappointment with the sound. Yes I still wish I had fade, but this thing sounds Really nice once dialed in.
The buzz is "irritating" that it exists, but unlikely a real issue for me.. Totally inaudible when car is running.
Otherwise this thing is pretty sweet so far.
Hi gottahavit,
I was just looking at this model on aliexpress and this post comes in just in time as you would say. I have a 2017 STI with no HK
What is your experience with the Mic for calls? does it retain the factory mic or do we have to plug in a new one?
You mention codes for Dev, can you share these?
The console USB Adapter - Which one did you use? do you have a link?
Have you tested ODB2 with apps like Torque?
The External GPS antenna is it required for it to work?
What about the 4G antennas?
thanks so much!
seryser said:
Hi gottahavit,
I was just looking at this model on aliexpress and this post comes in just in time as you would say. I have a 2017 STI with no HK
What is your experience with the Mic for calls? does it retain the factory mic or do we have to plug in a new one?
You mention codes for Dev, can you share these?
The console USB Adapter - Which one did you use? do you have a link?
Have you tested ODB2 with apps like Torque?
The External GPS antenna is it required for it to work?
What about the 4G antennas?
thanks so much!
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So first, IDoing have been fantastic in helping with the right purchase and the support, but that said this suffers from a lot of issues the other MFG units do. If you had HK I'd def recommend the IDoing as it's plug and play works great.
However if you don't have the HK I might suggest you get a version with optical or coax out. I think Joying and Daisata sell the same unit but with one or the other cabling.
I don't really make calls, but have tested a couple and was told the mic is ok. No you can't keep the stock mic or GPS.
Codes:3368 for factory, 7171 for Launchers
USB: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DJ4KVQ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 works perfectly.
No ODB2 here, should be the same as the Joying in another thread.
You need the GPS if you want waze or maps on the unit vs AA or Carplay. I just mounted it on the top of the unit and it works great.
4G works fine with Tmobile, I tested with a Mint mobile trial, but cannot get proper APNs in for Verizon SIm to work(still on my hit list)
I recommend the coax as so many of these unit suffer from some form of ground loop interference which is just annoying even if it doesn't really affect the sound. I had no choice given the HK system
Even with the HK this thing cranks our a lot more power than the POS subaru unit..
These things are great and all the work of install is getting the old unit out. It's not perfect but leaps and bounds above stock.
The other reason to go with Joying is you'll get more support here than you will with the IDoing(very specialized to subaru).
If you do buy from IDoing just chat with them first they will help you pick the proper unit and any canbus for your car.
I would definitely go with the UIS7862 version, as this thing is fast!
Thanks for all the information! Really clarifies what i need to get. Ill look at the joying unit and see what the differences are... There was also the Teyes CC3, but man is it more expensive but looks absolutely awesome
seryser said:
Thanks for all the information! Really clarifies what i need to get. Ill look at the joying unit and see what the differences are... There was also the Teyes CC3, but man is it more expensive but looks absolutely awesome
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Looking I see the unit 6+128 would be cool, but be careful, they all say forrester and have foreester button config for the top lcd and 4-wasy buttons. Maybe they have insert for WRX like IDoing. Also I don't see and coax or optical out, but just did quick search. Keep in mind that a lot of that marketing material is just that. I love my unit, but you can't believe everything you read. Also that's cheaper the IDoing or Joying. I think the key is make sure it has the key connections you want(optical, coax, HK my case) and that it fits your car.
Idoing is reseller of various types of kanged android head units.
Would be good to know factory/manufacturer or unit - sounds like it might be an FYT? You will then be able to know what rom options and mods are available from the forums.
Manufacturer can generally be identified from MCU version, what is the full MCU version listed?
marchnz said:
Idoing is reseller of various types of kanged android head units.
Would be good to know factory/manufacturer or unit - sounds like it might be an FYT? You will then be able to know what rom options and mods are available from the forums.
Manufacturer can generally be identified from MCU version, what is the full MCU version listed?
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IDoing is FYT, they are the only ones with the canbus for the HK system in my car, but that's fine for seryser as he/she has base stereo., but with no HK I recommend getting a unit with optical or coax.
Just a note on the WRX install, you will be tempted(as I was) to not drop the drivers air bag and try to get to the 10mm bolt on that side. DROP THE STUPID AIRBAG!!!!
It's really near impossible to get enough purchase on the bolt unless you do. I wasted an hour trying to not drop the air bag and gave up and had it done in 5 min.
When you put the new unit it, they are TIGHT, snap the clips at the bottom, bend in the clips at the top, then push REAL hard in the top of the screen to sanp the middle clips. They will snap in and what a beautiful fit this unit has. Make sure you run all your cables where you want them before you snap it in! You get 3 usb, I removed the cigarettes lighter under the unit and cut it and plugged it to have one USB in snapped in, ran the other two into the glove box along with the stock usb plug(was amazed it was long enough), then you just plug it into the adapter and one USB plug right in the glove box. Now I have one under the unit, one in the glove box, and 2 in the center console.
I just found the USB Mode toggle on the UIS7862 IDoing. It's the "..." menu at the root of developer setting. Two items in Chinese, top one is host mode, bottom is device mode. Got USB Debugging working fine even with usb-c cable from my laptop.
A picture's worth a thousand words
ludditefornow said:
A picture's worth a thousand words
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I can post pics later, but if you can get into developer settings. Immediately in the top right there is a menu button(...) click that and there is one option "USB Configuration", click that you get a popup with 2 options in it in chinese. The first is USB Host mode and the second is Device mode which will let you do USB Debugging from a laptop.
again this is on my IDoing, YMMV
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So my unit arrived today:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32955093508.html
Got it to the point of plugging it in to test in the car.
Adding Heating controls vents was a Piece of Cake and this thing looks amazing
Tested:
Screen: Fast and gorgeous responsive, seems very good in bright sunlight
capacitive buttons:, work well , Reset and reprogrammed and much better. Also Illumination is working with custom colors.
Well Documented low volume buzz... Yep it's there, goes away if you mute the radio. Will look for setting to reduce perhaps as well as talk to IDoing
Harman Kardon Canbus, Works plug and play. One issue that may be related is the Fade controls don't really work to fade to rear as they mute the rear, while balance controls work fine... Talking to IDoing now and they just confirmed that any factory amp radio has this issue.
Wifi 5ghz tether, works flawlessly, get 50mbit off my cell. Not the fastest but more than good enough
Play store/google account setup: works flawlessly. Have installed several apps already
Waze/GPS: works flawlessly
USB: 3 dongles, all work for USB Drives, haven't tested for phone connection
Flac: Works off all 3 usb(one main reason I went with this unit)
4g: Working well with t-mobile, not working with verizon. Verizon shows as full bars, bars when I went more urban, but there are no APN settings and I cant get data to work.
Bluetooth audio: works ok, sound doesn't seem fantastic, but i will probably never use.
Android Auto: Wired works great, can't get wireless to work even though my phone says the head unit supports it. Wired it's very fast and responsive and looks great.
Carplay: works wired and woreless, didn't test much as I don't use apple except for app testing.
Fubo/Video: Works very well screen is gorgeous
Developer options: IDoing gave me codes
Launcher: Pretty flexible with different options.
Got USB Debugging, ADB to work today. In developer setting there is 3 "..." at the top, in there is USB mode, top is host mode, bottom is device mode(ADB).
Once I got ADB going I got SystemUITuner granted permissions to control immersive mode for Waze and the like.
Custom Launcher: Got custom launchers working with a trick to use the setting in Nova to set default launcher. Now Rocking Car Web Guru launcher. Also Like Car Launcher Free Version.
Split screen : woks well and is even remembered as last view on soft boot.
Geekbench: 500+, 1300+ very pleased.
android auto with Head unit reloaded: tested with dev server method. Works well with wireless, but UI layout is pretty bad.
Console USB Adapter: Bought from amazon, works perfectly. Now 4 functioning USB
USB access for File Manager : doesn't work yet
Music Apps: do have access to USB
Automation: Used Macrodroid to start Android auto whenever the phone usb is plugged in, or to start spotifiy if no usb and wifi connects. Will do some more of these.
Overall:
Bummed about the rear speaker control, will have to see how much it affects my listening, found subwoofer control an tweaked EQ, sound is quite nice, still wish fade worked. Ok next note to others, make sure you calibrate your EQ with your back seats up. I forgot I had put them down to get my bike in and that was half my disappointment with the sound. Yes I still wish I had fade, but this thing sounds Really nice once dialed in.
The buzz is "irritating" that it exists, but unlikely a real issue for me.. Totally inaudible when car is running.
Otherwise this thing is pretty sweet so far.
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What a good review!!!
Really "irritating" the permanent buzz. Only dissapear with volume to zero every time I turn on the unit. If somebody find a fix i will be more than happy
JAR99 said:
What a good review!!!
Really "irritating" the permanent buzz. Only dissapear with volume to zero every time I turn on the unit. If somebody find a fix i will be more than happy
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Yes I agree, at tis point it's the only real gripe I have with the unit. The thing is amazing compared to the crap that Subaru put in.
The issue seems to be pretty common on these chinese units, which is why if I didn't have the HK setup I would have bought one with Optical or Coax. Honestly you can't hear it when listening to music, but... If I ever pull the unit out again I will try to ground the board to see what that does.
IDoing has "tried" to be helpful, and they are extremely responsive on aliexpress.
I'm glad you found my review useful.
So I managed to get APN setting for verizon to stick, and I ca see the verizon network if I use a replacement mobile network settings like from CWG, however even though it will connect and I have the APN it sitll won't get any mobile data on the verizon network. I'm beginning to think they have it hardcoded in the System to only work with t-mobile. Either that or Verizon is rejecting data requests from the device even tough it lets it connect. I've tried with both true Verizon Sim and an Xfinity Mobile Sim(Both verizon, but different APNs).
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Yes I agree, at tis point it's the only real gripe I have with the unit. The thing is amazing compared to the crap that Subaru put in.
The issue seems to be pretty common on these chinese units, which is why if I didn't have the HK setup I would have bought one with Optical or Coax. Honestly you can't hear it when listening to music, but... If I ever pull the unit out again I will try to ground the board to see what that does.
IDoing has "tried" to be helpful, and they are extremely responsive on aliexpress.
I'm glad you found my review useful.
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Do these buzz even if you don't have the hk?
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Do these buzz even if you don't have the hk?
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I believe they do, only way around it without playing with internals is to get one with the coax or optical out and use that, then it's digital to your amp.
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I believe they do, only way around it without playing with internals is to get one with the coax or optical out and use that, then it's digital to your amp.
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Think it might be possible to add some kind of pass-through filter/adapter to the RCA leads which could help reduce or eliminate the buzz?
Good Day Amazing People!
I have recently switched from samsung note 8 to s22u.
My wired android auto on pioneer DMH-Z5150BT worked like charm with note 8, even my partner's s8+ and s20u.
But when I connect s22u it goes into black screen.
I have tried quality connecting cables but no luck.
Please help me fix the problem.
Thanks In Advance!
tried different versions of AA apk?
Sounds like you got a duffer like me.
Finally got my preorder ... is AA bad for everyone else?!
Holy smokes... Android Auto is driving me crazy nuts on this S22 Ultra. Tried the offical cable from my Note9, and two expensive aftermarket ones and all 3 display a laggy, mess. Trying to use Waze and Android Auto as a whole is unbearable on...
forum.xda-developers.com
If you leave it on black screen for approx 10-15mins it will get to install, but then it'll be less than 1 fps and unusable. So much so, I've been tethering to my note9 which works brilliantly even after 4 years of service.
I've tried about 6 different cables so far, but none seem to work. im getting a $40 3.1usb c-a cable over the weekend to try that as a final straw.
Your suggestions and comments are highly appreciated!
When the data cable is plugged in it won't start until updated. I followed the instructions it goes to black screen.
Both my phone and stereo system is on warranty, I am unable to identify the issue.
Please advice if anyone have a FIX!
I had to use the factory cable along with an adapter, usb-a to c, to get my phone to work with AA. There are still occasional hiccups, but they are few and far between.
I've seen so many report similar AA issues, I recall the reply from samsung was that the phone was not compatible with the Pioneer device and was suggested that they reach out to Pioneer to update or something of that sort.
try previous versions of AA from apkpure\apkmirror
Mine worked with a Highlander / JBL factory head unit, but not on my truck with a Pioneer. I don’t think it’s a cable issue since there’s enough bandwidth to play YouTube videos on the pioneer using Pioneer’s goofy web link app using whatever cable.
I had strange issues with AA with my 2019 Honda Pilot. AA with pixel 6 won't work except with the cable that came with older pixel phones. Note 10, Note 20 Ultra as well as S22 Ultra all either disconnect or don't recognize the phone with the same cable. They work fine when a cheap thin cable.
I have no issues with my S22 Ultra connecting to my Hyundai Santa Fe. It had been a while since I connected it since I have built in navigation and was surprised by the update to the interface. Need to play around with it some more, but it is much more functional than before.
S22 is known to have AA issues with several headunit including Pioneer. Blank black screen.
..good nows guys
android auto have updated today with version 7.7.121904 which has fixed the black screen issue with my pioneer head unit.
But I am not able to locate google maps or waze.
Is anyone facing the issue?
Thanks in advance!
Updated here, still 1 fps.
adzu_69 said:
..good nows guys
android auto have updated today with version 7.7.121904 which has fixed the black screen issue with my pioneer head unit.
But I am not able to locate google maps or waze.
Is anyone facing the issue?
Thanks in advance!
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So, it looks like the AA v7.7 beta fixes the black screen issue on some Pioneer head units, but at the same time, causes the same issue on other Pioneer units where there was no problem with the non-beta. I have a Pioneer AVH-3400NEX in one car and a Pioneer DMH-W4660NEX in another car.
The 3400NEX gives me a black screen with the non-beta version(although you can still hear audio, etc). The beta fixes the issue completely.
The 4660NEX works perfectly with the non-beta (v7.5.62...), but when I install the v7.7 beta, I get black screen on the 4660NEX(but audio works) . . .
Any thoughts on this?
Edit: By the way, AA works perfectly on both head units when connected with my old S10 running non-beta AA.