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Whenever I play music over bluetooth to my motorola s9 headset, it skips every 3-10 seconds. The music stops for a second or so, then starts again where it left off. It's the same as if someone were pushing pause and play all the time. It's very annoying!!
I found a fix using the search feature but it was created for the hermes, I moved it to my phone and when I tried to run it, it just opened the opera browser and didn't do anything. It was called A2DPFix v1.0.
Is there a fix for the Touch pro? Or anything else I can do to stop this problem.
I use WMP to play my music, if that matters.
Thanks!
the skip usually comes from heavy interference in the area. that means someone, somewhere in your vicinity is using a higher powered device that runs in a similar frequency.. I cant use my stereo bt for music when I connect it to my ipod video (via bt adapter) with all the staff running around with their high powered radio transmitters.
atleast this is my observation....
mputtr said:
the skip usually comes from heavy interference in the area. that means someone, somewhere in your vicinity is using a higher powered device that runs in a similar frequency.. I cant use my stereo bt for music when I connect it to my ipod video (via bt adapter) with all the staff running around with their high powered radio transmitters.
atleast this is my observation....
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It happens when I am running, I leave from my apartment and run about 1 mile toward the woods. Then I run through a dirt road in the woods for another 2 miles before coming back, so I don't think there is any interference..?
Thanks for the reply!
ah ok. I thought you meant using the stereo bt in a city environment.
Just to cover bases, did you buy the s9 via ebay or did you buy it from a store. The first time I bought a stereo bt headset, i made the mistake of buying it via ebay from a buyer from hk.. which is.. a bad idea, because it was fake and it sucked. If you bought it from an actual store in the US, then I think you can use advanced config to ramp up some settings under bluetooth to get higher performance. I hope that helps.
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ah ok. I thought you meant using the stereo bt in a city environment.
Just to cover bases, did you buy the s9 via ebay or did you buy it from a store. The first time I bought a stereo bt headset, i made the mistake of buying it via ebay from a buyer from hk.. which is.. a bad idea, because it was fake and it sucked. If you bought it from an actual store in the US, then I think you can use advanced config to ramp up some settings under bluetooth to get higher performance. I hope that helps.
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I did buy it from ebay actually. It doesn't seem fake though... How would I know?
there's a link out there that shows you the difference between the real and fake s9.
Here's the official motorola website showing (with pictures) the difference
http://www.motorola.com/content.jsp?globalObjectId=8627-10942
here's the ebay link that has a review in text.
http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-spot...Motorola-S9-Part-2_W0QQugidZ10000000008744317
goodluck. i hope yours isn't fake.
I just recently popped my phone's cherry and unlocked the bootloader so that I could get Froyo on my AT&T Nexus One. Before the update I had setup my phone to plug into a car dock with a headphone out to auxiliary jack to my car speakers.
The volume was consistently good to my car stereo when unplugged from the dock and when plugged in before the update. Now, immediately after I plug in my phone to the dock with the headphone jack pushing media audio my volume is reduced by 10-20%. I have disabled the dock managing my media audio, put everything to max volume on phone, and it still reduces the audio as soon as I plug it into the dock.
Does anyone else have a similar setup? I realize mine may be unique and I'm on my own. Are there any deeper phone settings to check beyond the standard volume controls?
Yeah I have the same problem. And my phone doesn't pick up my voice with voice commands and auto brightness doesn't work with the phone in the dock. Makes me wanna go back to Eclair...
Still have not resolved this by any means available. Maybe the official ROM will fix this issue. Also my paid apps still have not shown up and I am noticing that when I pick up inbound calls people cannot hear me for a few seconds.
I was hoping by this point in June that the official Froyo for N1 would have been released and there would be a ROM floating around but no such luck!
I've had a similar problem when my phone is docked with the car dock. In-call volume is extremely low, but other types of media are fine (i.e. music, navi, etc). My volume settings are maxed out too. I hope the official Froyo release fixes this problem. I use my car dock on a daily basis.
Looks like frf83 did not fix it. Car dock is useless for me. Seeing comments frome google that indicate they optimized for the cheesy built in speakers and hosed using the headphone jack while docked.
Pandora during the commute keeps me sane, and this ruins it. No froyo for me until this is fixed.
What I've discovered is when I car dock the phone media volume gets set to 12 out of 15 on the headphone jack. The volume setting GUI doesn't show that the volume has changed. Changing the media volume in settings doesn't affect the volume until I undock the phone.
Unfortunately for me that's too much output for my car stereo and music gets pretty distorted.
I downgraded to OTA ERD79 and the volume would remain the same when docked. I upgraded to the latest OTA and the max volume setting returned.
Having the same problem. At least I found this problem is due to Froyo, not my car dock.
Still, wished the USB port is still open while docked so I can bypass the Car Dock's circuits and just use it as a holder only.
Haven't rooted my phone yet, but if the devs can fix the issue on a custom ROM, I will root.
i used to have this set up where my phone was hardwired to the radio and after froyo i have noticed this problem too. I have now gone back to using a bluetooth connection (kensington liquidaux) and it seems to not have the problem.
for those following the other thread regarding the degradation of quality not just the low volume (double sucky). the bluetooth connection seems to not suffer the same fate.
agentkalaw said:
i used to have this set up where my phone was hardwired to the radio and after froyo i have noticed this problem too. I have now gone back to using a bluetooth connection (kensington liquidaux) and it seems to not have the problem.
for those following the other thread regarding the degradation of quality not just the low volume (double sucky). the bluetooth connection seems to not suffer the same fate.
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You're referring using Bluetooth vs AUX for the dock and car to communicate? I'm guessing most of us don't have that option on our cars.
Check out the Kensington Liquidaux. It is an aftermarket Bluetooth solution that lets you use any AUX connection.
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seancneal said:
Check out the Kensington Liquidaux. It is an aftermarket Bluetooth solution that lets you use any AUX connection.
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Seems like an overkill for $80, especially when I don't need any part of the mount.
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Seems like an overkill for $80, especially when I don't need any part of the mount.
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The one I got was $29. (Edit: I looked all over and can't find it at this price anymore...shoulda bought two!) It just included the cigarette lighter part and a steering wheel remote.
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I have been waiting for a solution and still have not found one. I installed the latest Cynogen V6.0.0-RC1 and when reconfiguring for my dock I got full sound! I was greatly excited! Then... it dropped back down to its normal volume.
I need to figure out a way to disable the phone recognizing the dock entirely since I only use the dock for keeping it stable on my windshield and charging. Anyone have ideas?
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I have been waiting for a solution and still have not found one. I installed the latest Cynogen V6.0.0-RC1 and when reconfiguring for my dock I got full sound! I was greatly excited! Then... it dropped back down to its normal volume.
I need to figure out a way to disable the phone recognizing the dock entirely since I only use the dock for keeping it stable on my windshield and charging. Anyone have ideas?
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I don't think the dots would pass through the charge if the phone completely stops recognizing the dock. This problem didn't start until Froyo, I'm pretty sure there'll be a fix for it.
I have the same problem. So much time has gone by since they released the car dock, first it was fine but after froyo the audio settings could not be saves anymore and the volume got much quieter.
No word from Google... nothing, no answer, no patch.
I'm really pissed, the car dock is almost unusable, except you go to audio settings every time you dock the phone and recheck the settings... :-(
there are already some people who reported the problem on the issue tracker. If you have the same problem please star the issue, but avoid giving "me too" comments... as everyone in the thread gets an email for your +1 comment.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=10466
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9073
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8292
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9747
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8634
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9445
google didn't even care to merge issues with the same topic... :-(
I really hope Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) will bring up a solution. (If the N1 will receive it)
Hi guys,
There's so many add-in tools out in the market that can easily solve those volume level issue. (e.g. "Dock Volume", "Car Dock v2", and many "Locale" or "Tasker" apps) So in my personal option, this is not an issue at all.
yang901 said:
Hi guys,
There's so many add-in tools out in the market that can easily solve those volume level issue. (e.g. "Dock Volume", "Car Dock v2", and many "Locale" or "Tasker" apps) So in my personal option, this is not an issue at all.
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You're completely clueless to the issue at hand, please stay away from this thread. Most of those apps have been around before Froyo was even released.
Ok so some of you may know that a usb flash drive will play a lot louder and more clear than using bluetooth to listen to your music in your car. I can use bluetooth to listen to the music on my phone but when i plug it in to use it as a flash drive to listen to the music it says usb device not supported on my sony headunit. Even after i change it to disk drive mode.
Before i attempt to go into the kernel to somehow correct this do any of you know of a fix that would correct this? The reason this is important to me is that i have a sub in my car and a lot of the low frequency notes sound faint over bluetooth compared to playing it over a flash drive.
Ideally i would like to eliminate my flash drive entirely rather than finding songs i like but then having to transfer them to a flash drive to get better play-back.
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I also get the USB device error where I never did before on my old incredible. I am running an Alpine headunit. I wonder why its so much softer in volume over Bluetooth than USB.
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Personally, I think it is the Bluetooth stack or hardware. My D2, the only thing I miss from that phone, had awesome range(100-200ft) and great SQ over BT. My TB only gets me about a 50ft range with the same sony mw600 bt module and subpar SQ. That is really my only true complaint about the phone. But, I deal because I love the phone overall.
yea that's what i thought...the only workaround i see is fixing this by allowing it to become capable with the headunit's usb device qualifiers somehow...i will work towards this...unless cm7 fixes everything and allows us to use it as a usb device lol...gotta love android
I had an Incredible and it worked fine hooking it up to the USB port on my Kenwood head unit. Once I upgraded to the TB I had a few issues. First the vcast drive that verizon installs on their phones interfere with the head unit reading the phone. It is the first drive that pops up wanting you to install software when you plug it into the computer. With the incredible you were able to access the phone menu and turn off the CD-ROM, but they took that access away on the TB. The only way I have found to get around that stupid drive is to plug in the phone to the USB port on the head unit with USB debugging turned on, wait a few seconds and then turn it off. For some reason this works to help my kenwood recognize the SD card and start playing music.
What is the advantage of this approach, compared to running an audio player on the t-bolt and going from the headphone jack to an aux in?
Better sound quality.
*EDIT* Plus you can control the music features through the head unit ie. skip, random, search, repeat, etc....
1454 said:
Personally, I think it is the Bluetooth stack or hardware. My D2, the only thing I miss from that phone, had awesome range(100-200ft) and great SQ over BT. My TB only gets me about a 50ft range with the same sony mw600 bt module and subpar SQ. That is really my only true complaint about the phone. But, I deal because I love the phone overall.
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It's the bluetooth stack. Specifically the bitpool setting. It's set too low and to date all anyone ever says when I ask about a fix is, "Mine sounds fine".
CM7 should fix this since they use a different bluetooth stack than the stock one and set a higher bitpool.
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I had an Incredible and it worked fine hooking it up to the USB port on my Kenwood head unit. Once I upgraded to the TB I had a few issues. First the vcast drive that verizon installs on their phones interfere with the head unit reading the phone. It is the first drive that pops up wanting you to install software when you plug it into the computer. With the incredible you were able to access the phone menu and turn off the CD-ROM, but they took that access away on the TB. The only way I have found to get around that stupid drive is to plug in the phone to the USB port on the head unit with USB debugging turned on, wait a few seconds and then turn it off. For some reason this works to help my kenwood recognize the SD card and start playing music.
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Wow i really appreciate this man i will def. try this out. Did you have to put it in disk drive mode as well?
kkozma said:
It's the bluetooth stack. Specifically the bitpool setting. It's set too low and to date all anyone ever says when I ask about a fix is, "Mine sounds fine".
CM7 should fix this since they use a different bluetooth stack than the stock one and set a higher bitpool.
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Yea the users that say "mine sounds fine" obviously do not have custom audio equipement in their cars. having amps on your speaker in conjunction with a subwoofer allows you to hear a lot more from your music even the imperfections.
Either that or they listen to sonicly simple music... I listen to just about everything and there's a massive difference in sound quality when I listen to something that's simple like hip hop/rap versus heavy metal.
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Wow i really appreciate this man i will def. try this out. Did you have to put it in disk drive mode as well?
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Yes. When you initially plug in the phone select disk drive. Then go to settings and turn on USB debugging. Wait a few seconds to allow the head unit to register the action on the phone and then turn USB debugging off. After this you shouldn't need to mess with anything on the phone.
It is a hassle to do this all the time when I am constantly getting in and out of the car, so I only use the USB feature if I know I am going to be in the car for a while. When I had my incredible I could reconnect and disconnect all day without touching anything on my phone. The only way I have found to disable it completely is if you are rooted you can go in and rename the CD-ROM.iso file, which essentially disables this drive from being accessed and not have to go through all this nonsense. I have yet to root the TB, and this is enough to make me want to root. I guess I am waiting to see if someone finds a better solution other than rooting to get rid of this Verizon nonsense.
I have yet to connect my phone to my car audio system. Will the imperfections have me gnawing away at steering wheel?
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Better sound quality.
*EDIT* Plus you can control the music features through the head unit ie. skip, random, search, repeat, etc....
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Okay, I can appreciate how the DAC in a head unit might be better than the one in a phone, but I'm skeptical that the differences can be heard above the road noise. Plus, most people play lossy mp3's in the car anyway. If the source was lossless, then perhaps the quality would be discernible.
Your latter point, tho, is valid - except in my case where I like to play straight through random albums. I never have liked random songs so much. It totally messes up great conceptual albums like Pink floyd and others. I suppose I'm a purist in my thinking that to play one random song from an album dilutes the band's artistic statement. Of course, pop generally doesn't apply here.
I noticed this as well. so i just decided to use the standard aux cable through the headphone port.
occam's razor.
I can't seem to rename that file even with a root file manager. How do you do it?
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Direct connect Works!
I repeat direct connect works! I flashed the new radio (ruu) and then my normal tesla coil 1.1 rom over that. Sat in the car because i was curious and plugged my phone into the headunit's usb port and it worked. Read the sd card and everything. I didn't think that leaked ota would have fixed this but apparently it has?
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I repeat direct connect works! I flashed the new radio (ruu) and then my normal tesla coil 1.1 rom over that. Sat in the car because i was curious and plugged my phone into the headunit's usb port and it worked. Read the sd card and everything. I didn't think that leaked ota would have fixed this but apparently it has?
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also I do not have to switch the debugging feature...I just put it in disk drive mode and everything starts playing....I think it even sounds better coming from the tbolt rather than a flash drive; but maybe i'm just partial to my bolt lol
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Okay, I can appreciate how the DAC in a head unit might be better than the one in a phone, but I'm skeptical that the differences can be heard above the road noise. Plus, most people play lossy mp3's in the car anyway. If the source was lossless, then perhaps the quality would be discernible.
Your latter point, tho, is valid - except in my case where I like to play straight through random albums. I never have liked random songs so much. It totally messes up great conceptual albums like Pink floyd and others. I suppose I'm a purist in my thinking that to play one random song from an album dilutes the band's artistic statement. Of course, pop generally doesn't apply here.
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I have used BT audio since I bought my Moto Droid well over a year ago. Yes you can plainly hear the distortion even over road noise. I have a Pioneer headunit with BT headset/audio built in. You would be surprised how easy it is to discern the difference between streaming audio (pandora) and decent quality mp3 (256k). The stock BT stack is prone to artifacts that come across midrange speakers as pops. You end up thinking you blew a speaker. Change source / song and all is well. While I personally can hear a small improvement in the overall quality of audio running CM7 on my old droid vs liquid rom on my TB it isn't much different.
By the way agree on Pink Floyd, comfortably numb has to be one of my favorite songs on a great album.
I bought the MW1 last week, and I've had time to play with it, but not to fix the problems I've found, so partly to explain my problems to possible buyers, and partly to get help to fix my problems, I'm writing this review.
First of all, I listened to the headphones that came with the MW1 unit for all of ten minutes. I'm sure they were fine, wonderful and would imbue all music with a magic substance, but I already have a set of Shures, and I don't need them.
Pairing the MW1 with the phone was supposed to be a matter of NFC-touching, but that didn't work. Instead I used the "quick start guide", and it took me about three minutes to set it up once and for all, and it's automatically connected to the phone every time I've switched it on ever since. Basically, you switch it on, and all sound should output through the MW1 instead of from the phone. This is not always true, which I'll come back to.
Sound is fantastic. I can't head any difference between using my Shure through the MW1 and directly to the phone, although I've used my normal music files, which are in AAC ~192kbit VBR, so I'm sure someone with higher standards would find something to complain about. Since 90% of what I listen to is podcasts and audiobooks, we're well past my level already.
Now, the hardware: the unit itself has some pretty obvious faults, which makes it very obvious that this is 1.0 hardware. In fact, I would call it 0.5 hardware. Sony has made some very odd choices, and these are definitely the most important downsides to this unit.
First of all, both the microSD-card and the micro-USB port are inside a lid which looks so much like the lid to a USB-stick that I find myself wondering why they didn't do the obvious thing and simply add a normal USB plug so we could just charge it by sticking it into a computer/USB power adapter, instead of mucking about with a cable. The only thing they would have to move is the microSD-slot, which would fit behind the USB plug just fine.
Second, the power button. If you've seen any reviews about this unit, you'll have heard about the power button. It strikes me that whomever decided that the power button should be of the "hold in for three seconds"-type, be completely impossible to press without half-inch nails, and be located at the WORST POSSIBLE PLACE on the unit, decides ten lashes and a dishonorable discharge from the world of product design.
Now, this is about all there is to say about the actual MW1, but as promised, I'm going to try to talk about how it works with the Xperia Z.
First of all, you must understand that at least 70% of the reason I bought the MW1 in the first place is the lid over the headset-port on the phone. To have to fumble around with my nail to fit into a specific slot out of several completely identical slots around the edges of my phone was COMPLETELY out of the picture. And yes, this solves that problem.
Another problem, however, appears shortly after. I have several applications which play audio, and since I no longer pick up the phone, unlock the screen, (sometimes change application) and THEN press play in the app I want, the phone easily gets confused as to which app is to get the "play" message from the MW1. You'd think perhaps that the Walkman app would be in a default-position just like iTunes is on macs, or Windows Media Player is on Windows, but no - for some reason it just selects completely by random any old running app, and outputs the sound. For me, when pausing Pocketcasts and then pressing play again a few minutes later, it seems to be about 50% chance that Pocketcasts picks up again (which is almost always what I wanted, and ALWAYS what I want to have happen), 25% PowerAmp even though it is never loaded and just installed in case I ever want to play music from my phone at a party or something, and 25% a completely random audio player, including (but certainly not limited to) Smart Audiobook Player, Plex, Winamp, Walkman or ANY other app I have installed on my phone.
So in short: great unit, get it if you can, but if there is ever a version 2.0 of this device and they haven't fixed the power button, please apply for a position with Sony's hardware design group, cause apparently they're useless.
Also, if anyone knows of any way to permanently bind the play button to "whichever app I just paused, you nitwit", let me know.
Also, these units are pretty damn cheap these days, mine was well under 100 USD, and it's well worth it. If you need an extra pair of headphones - fantastic - but even the bluetooth unit itself is worth the price.
Hey, thanks for the short review.
I'm using a Jabra Clipper. Till now it always started the walkman app, and the buttons did what i wanted. but today i had some problems with skipping songs. gotta see if it will reoccure.
the biggest issue i have is the weak signal strength. it's definitly working better than with my old S2, but never the less, the signal is very easy interrupted. Even if the phone is in the pocket of my jeans and i slightly cover it, because my hand is in there too.
I wonder if the MW1 has the same issues.
Not really. I have a Plantronics Voyager something something, and that has horrible distortion issues if I so much as think about putting the phone in the same-side jeans pocket, but the MW1 goes strong even if I'm in another room.
Of course, that could be because the MW1 unit is much larger...
I wonder if this will help: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.harleensahni.android.mbr&hl=no
My Jabra works even in 5m distance, but loses signal as soon as the phone is behind my back.
The MW1 costs twice as much as the clipper.
Nice app, will check it out. Thanks
Hello... I'm thinking in buying the MW1 but I have a question. Currently, I have the JAYS a-JAYS One+ that comes with a microphone.
I think the device of the MW1 has a built in mic so how it would behave if I connect the JAYS to the MW1 since the two have built in microphones? Which one would work to answer calls? The one in the MW1 or the one in the JAYS One+?
Thanks in advance.
The MW1. The microphone on the headphones wouldn't be connected to anything.
Note: I am making an educated guess.
2 Tom Fagerland,
I was wondering : any improvement since firmware update?
Another thing,
About the choice of application while pressing play/pause, have you tried the "Headset Button Controller" ?
I had similar problems with normal wired headset. This app solved my problems. Good luck!
Full: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kober.headsetbutton
Trial : https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmtvYmVyLmhlYWRzZXQiXQ..
Couldn't smart connect be used in some way?
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Wait! Are all here talking about the same product?? MW1 Sony Wireless Headset Pro?
Then i must tell you what i think because i have both Clipper and MW1 and i can tell you whats are you doing wrong
first of all is THE ultimate headset..and if you don't use smart connect..you loose all the power of it..
link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5zb255ZXJpY3Nzb24uZXh0cmFzLmxpdmV3YXJlIl0.
Second, it has PERFECT range about 30-40m with out problem! (clipper works fine around 10m with no walls)
Third, connect apps on your device to make the headset works like you want!
Link:https://play.google.com/store/apps/...4uZXh0cmFzLnNtYXJ0d2lyZWxlc3NoZWFkc2V0cHJvIl0.
and something about NFC??? Jesus..read the hardware specifications..NFC no needed
My friend i think you have no idea how powerful is that headset!
IF anyone wants help here i am!
Of course I use SmartConnect
About the buttoncontroller app: Excellent tip, I have bought it now (after checking that it's compatible) and will try it out this week. Thanks for that!
Otherwise, no changes since .253, no. I still use it, though. It's still fantastic, even with having to grab the phone and making adjustments to make Walkan stop playing at the same time as Audible...
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About the buttoncontroller app: Excellent tip, I have bought it now (after checking that it's compatible) and will try it out this week. Thanks for that!
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No problem! I hope it will help. Have you tried the free version first?
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Otherwise, no changes since .253, no.
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I meant the new firmware for the MW1. There were some since you bought it right? Actually one has just been released....
hackos said:
IF anyone wants help here i am!
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Actually, could you help me here please : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42029397&postcount=6
Thanks!
About updates: If you have smart connect on ANY android phone..then you can update the Firmware of the headset from the phone (wifi needed). the other way you use MicroSd card (about 300kb .bin file on the root of the MicroSD) or using USB (hold BACK button and plug the usb) and software FLASH the .bin file automatic for you.
SOFTWARE: http://software.sonymobile.com/update_service_setup
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No problem! I hope it will help. Have you tried the free version first?
I meant the new firmware for the MW1. There were some since you bought it right? Actually one has just been released....
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I just installed the new one today, I've been sick for about a week. This is the first update I've had since I started using it, so I've not had any changes.
Thanks a lot.
I am thinking of buying the MW1 and have the Xperia Z, so this is perfectly what I needed
Just one question:
Is the XZ compatible with its other features, like the display of the caller name and song title and viewing text messages/emails?
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Thanks a lot.
I am thinking of buying the MW1 and have the Xperia Z, so this is perfectly what I needed
Just one question:
Is the XZ compatible with its other features, like the display of the caller name and song title and viewing text messages/emails?
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Yes, the Headset displays tracknames, caller names, etc. with my Xperia Z. But I had some trouble at first that the headset was not able to skip tracks when the screen was off and the phone locked with the android pin. After the latest update of my Z and the use of sony smart connect it works fine!
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Used the headset for about a week with both headset button controller and the new firmware. No change at all, everything in the first post still stands unfortunately.
Still really like the headset, though, despite all that.
I've got a question about the mp3 player... if I pause it and turn it off... will it remember where I was the next time I turn it on.
I'm thinking of listening to audiobooks on it, but then it's very important that it remembers where it was last time when you power on the device.
Brgds... Tubgirl
What's the difference between this and sbh50? They both have similar specs right? But sbh50 costs less than MW1 and is power efficient. Any advantages of buying MW1 over sbh50?
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nihalvm said:
What's the difference between this and sbh50? They both have similar specs right? But sbh50 costs less than MW1 and is power efficient. Any advantages of buying MW1 over sbh50?
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They're pretty similar... Both have 2 row displays and FM receivers but while the SBH50 has NFC capabilities which is supposed to make pairing easier, the MW1 has a microSD card slot which turns it into a standalone mp3 player as well.
Not sure where you read that the SBH50 is more power efficient? On the sony site they mention 11h for the MW1 but say nothing about the SBH50.
MW1 @ Sony.com
SBH50 @ Sony.com
Brgds... /Tubgirl
After a lot of reviews and reading I just ordered a 9" Idoing with CanBus for my 2018 WRX with Harman Kardon. A lot of positive reviews from WRX owners, but not seeing a lot of love(or hate) for the Idoing hear on XDA. It's nearly identical to the Joying, but Joying will not support the HK system in my car.
The system is an android 10, UIS 7862 4+64. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32955093508.html
I'm curious what custom options I have in terms of UI, ROMs, Root,, apps?
I'm guessing from what I read(or lack there of) ROMs are a no go, but what about root and other customization options?
Sorry long time rooter and custom ROM user for android phones and tablets, but total noob to android head units.
I have a Kenwood with wireless android auto in my old car and was going to move it to this one, but absolutely hate Android Auto almost as much as I hate mirrorlink in the stock HU in my WRX(shame on you subaru). Also the kit to install it from crutchfield cost nearly as much as the android unit and canbus shipped from china, so figured i'd take a chance.
If it doesn't work out I'll go with the kenwood, but really hopeful this will be a winner. I spent a lot of time on chat with them and they are extremely responsive to questions(really like live chat) where a question to Joying took 3 days to get a response.
I know there is little chance the 4G module will work in the US(IDoing says it works with tmobile) so expecting to use wifi tether with my phone with native apps and pretend android auto doesn't exist. Other option is put a spare phone with sim permanently connected to USB, but unsure if USB tether will work.
I will keep reading, but any thoughts or pointers are welcome. Just don't tell me to replace my HK system, I know not everyone likes it, but I love it ;-)
FAIR WARNING!!!! After a year with no issue, My IDoing fried itself today!! I was driving and it shut down and for about 1 minute I could smell burnt electronics. This was a plug n play install so no cutting, no splicing, no soldering. I am in the process of seeing what IDoing will do for me, but I expect the answer is nothing since it is now over a year old.
Update: Well at least IDoing is talking to me. I pulled the unit out today and put the Stock stereo back in(UGGGH). At least nothing else got fried.
Update 2: So they are saying that they want me to pull the unit off the mounting trim and mail it to them and they will send me a knew one. I'm assuming this is going to cost me 100 bucks in shipping and need to wait a month or more, but it's better response than I expect.
Update 3: They "say" that once I give them tracking number for the unit, they will ship new unit and all i have to pay for is return shipping(30 dollars)
Final Update: Well it cost me a lot more than the USPS web site inferred (85 dollars), but they shipped a replacement the same day I gave them the tracking for the return. New unit showed up in just over a week, Unit looks new installed in less than an hour and all works great, software looks to be nearly identical except the AA software that it came with support wireless out of the box, so small bons. Unfortunate the original unit fried itself after a year, but considering it was out of warranty I have to commend Idoing on how they handled this, now I just need to remember all the tweaks I had installed ;-)
Roms, you have 2 options both are "Lite" versions meaning you have to buy the other features.
No real need for twrp.
Best bet make sure it works with Android auto wireless
Also pay close attention to the button layouts for the different types of screens.
Most development will be in the "Android auto" fourm
Also ask the seller to provided the zlink activation codes
Hmm, I'm curious why I would use AA at all with this as opposed to running apps on the unit with wifi tether? I've used AA Mirror in the past with my kenwood, but would prefer to avoid that path if possible.
It should work with AA, but not wireless as far as I know.
So my unit arrived today:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32955093508.html
Got it to the point of plugging it in to test in the car.
Adding Heating controls vents was a Piece of Cake and this thing looks amazing
Tested:
Screen: Fast and gorgeous responsive, seems very good in bright sunlight
capacitive buttons:, work well , Reset and reprogrammed and much better. Also Illumination is working with custom colors.
Well Documented low volume buzz... Yep it's there, goes away if you mute the radio. Will look for setting to reduce perhaps as well as talk to IDoing
Harman Kardon Canbus, Works plug and play. One issue that may be related is the Fade controls don't really work to fade to rear as they mute the rear, while balance controls work fine... Talking to IDoing now and they just confirmed that any factory amp radio has this issue.
Wifi 5ghz tether, works flawlessly, get 50mbit off my cell. Not the fastest but more than good enough
Play store/google account setup: works flawlessly. Have installed several apps already
Waze/GPS: works flawlessly
USB: 3 dongles, all work for USB Drives, haven't tested for phone connection
Flac: Works off all 3 usb(one main reason I went with this unit)
4g: Working well with t-mobile, not working with verizon. Verizon shows as full bars, bars when I went more urban, but there are no APN settings and I cant get data to work.
Bluetooth audio: works ok, sound doesn't seem fantastic, but i will probably never use.
Android Auto: Wired works great, can't get wireless to work even though my phone says the head unit supports it. Wired it's very fast and responsive and looks great.
Carplay: works wired and woreless, didn't test much as I don't use apple except for app testing.
Fubo/Video: Works very well screen is gorgeous
Developer options: IDoing gave me codes
Launcher: Pretty flexible with different options.
Got USB Debugging, ADB to work today. In developer setting there is 3 "..." at the top, in there is USB mode, top is host mode, bottom is device mode(ADB).
Once I got ADB going I got SystemUITuner granted permissions to control immersive mode for Waze and the like.
Custom Launcher: Got custom launchers working with a trick to use the setting in Nova to set default launcher. Now Rocking Car Web Guru launcher. Also Like Car Launcher Free Version.
Split screen : woks well and is even remembered as last view on soft boot.
Geekbench: 500+, 1300+ very pleased.
android auto with Head unit reloaded: tested with dev server method. Works well with wireless, but UI layout is pretty bad.
Console USB Adapter: Bought from amazon, works perfectly. Now 4 functioning USB
USB access for File Manager : doesn't work yet
Music Apps: do have access to USB
Automation: Used Macrodroid to start Android auto whenever the phone usb is plugged in, or to start spotifiy if no usb and wifi connects. Will do some more of these.
Overall:
Bummed about the rear speaker control, will have to see how much it affects my listening, found subwoofer control an tweaked EQ, sound is quite nice, still wish fade worked. Ok next note to others, make sure you calibrate your EQ with your back seats up. I forgot I had put them down to get my bike in and that was half my disappointment with the sound. Yes I still wish I had fade, but this thing sounds Really nice once dialed in.
The buzz is "irritating" that it exists, but unlikely a real issue for me.. Totally inaudible when car is running.
Otherwise this thing is pretty sweet so far.
Hi gottahavit,
I was just looking at this model on aliexpress and this post comes in just in time as you would say. I have a 2017 STI with no HK
What is your experience with the Mic for calls? does it retain the factory mic or do we have to plug in a new one?
You mention codes for Dev, can you share these?
The console USB Adapter - Which one did you use? do you have a link?
Have you tested ODB2 with apps like Torque?
The External GPS antenna is it required for it to work?
What about the 4G antennas?
thanks so much!
seryser said:
Hi gottahavit,
I was just looking at this model on aliexpress and this post comes in just in time as you would say. I have a 2017 STI with no HK
What is your experience with the Mic for calls? does it retain the factory mic or do we have to plug in a new one?
You mention codes for Dev, can you share these?
The console USB Adapter - Which one did you use? do you have a link?
Have you tested ODB2 with apps like Torque?
The External GPS antenna is it required for it to work?
What about the 4G antennas?
thanks so much!
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So first, IDoing have been fantastic in helping with the right purchase and the support, but that said this suffers from a lot of issues the other MFG units do. If you had HK I'd def recommend the IDoing as it's plug and play works great.
However if you don't have the HK I might suggest you get a version with optical or coax out. I think Joying and Daisata sell the same unit but with one or the other cabling.
I don't really make calls, but have tested a couple and was told the mic is ok. No you can't keep the stock mic or GPS.
Codes:3368 for factory, 7171 for Launchers
USB: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DJ4KVQ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 works perfectly.
No ODB2 here, should be the same as the Joying in another thread.
You need the GPS if you want waze or maps on the unit vs AA or Carplay. I just mounted it on the top of the unit and it works great.
4G works fine with Tmobile, I tested with a Mint mobile trial, but cannot get proper APNs in for Verizon SIm to work(still on my hit list)
I recommend the coax as so many of these unit suffer from some form of ground loop interference which is just annoying even if it doesn't really affect the sound. I had no choice given the HK system
Even with the HK this thing cranks our a lot more power than the POS subaru unit..
These things are great and all the work of install is getting the old unit out. It's not perfect but leaps and bounds above stock.
The other reason to go with Joying is you'll get more support here than you will with the IDoing(very specialized to subaru).
If you do buy from IDoing just chat with them first they will help you pick the proper unit and any canbus for your car.
I would definitely go with the UIS7862 version, as this thing is fast!
Thanks for all the information! Really clarifies what i need to get. Ill look at the joying unit and see what the differences are... There was also the Teyes CC3, but man is it more expensive but looks absolutely awesome
seryser said:
Thanks for all the information! Really clarifies what i need to get. Ill look at the joying unit and see what the differences are... There was also the Teyes CC3, but man is it more expensive but looks absolutely awesome
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Looking I see the unit 6+128 would be cool, but be careful, they all say forrester and have foreester button config for the top lcd and 4-wasy buttons. Maybe they have insert for WRX like IDoing. Also I don't see and coax or optical out, but just did quick search. Keep in mind that a lot of that marketing material is just that. I love my unit, but you can't believe everything you read. Also that's cheaper the IDoing or Joying. I think the key is make sure it has the key connections you want(optical, coax, HK my case) and that it fits your car.
Idoing is reseller of various types of kanged android head units.
Would be good to know factory/manufacturer or unit - sounds like it might be an FYT? You will then be able to know what rom options and mods are available from the forums.
Manufacturer can generally be identified from MCU version, what is the full MCU version listed?
marchnz said:
Idoing is reseller of various types of kanged android head units.
Would be good to know factory/manufacturer or unit - sounds like it might be an FYT? You will then be able to know what rom options and mods are available from the forums.
Manufacturer can generally be identified from MCU version, what is the full MCU version listed?
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IDoing is FYT, they are the only ones with the canbus for the HK system in my car, but that's fine for seryser as he/she has base stereo., but with no HK I recommend getting a unit with optical or coax.
Just a note on the WRX install, you will be tempted(as I was) to not drop the drivers air bag and try to get to the 10mm bolt on that side. DROP THE STUPID AIRBAG!!!!
It's really near impossible to get enough purchase on the bolt unless you do. I wasted an hour trying to not drop the air bag and gave up and had it done in 5 min.
When you put the new unit it, they are TIGHT, snap the clips at the bottom, bend in the clips at the top, then push REAL hard in the top of the screen to sanp the middle clips. They will snap in and what a beautiful fit this unit has. Make sure you run all your cables where you want them before you snap it in! You get 3 usb, I removed the cigarettes lighter under the unit and cut it and plugged it to have one USB in snapped in, ran the other two into the glove box along with the stock usb plug(was amazed it was long enough), then you just plug it into the adapter and one USB plug right in the glove box. Now I have one under the unit, one in the glove box, and 2 in the center console.
I just found the USB Mode toggle on the UIS7862 IDoing. It's the "..." menu at the root of developer setting. Two items in Chinese, top one is host mode, bottom is device mode. Got USB Debugging working fine even with usb-c cable from my laptop.
A picture's worth a thousand words
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A picture's worth a thousand words
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I can post pics later, but if you can get into developer settings. Immediately in the top right there is a menu button(...) click that and there is one option "USB Configuration", click that you get a popup with 2 options in it in chinese. The first is USB Host mode and the second is Device mode which will let you do USB Debugging from a laptop.
again this is on my IDoing, YMMV
gottahavit said:
So my unit arrived today:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32955093508.html
Got it to the point of plugging it in to test in the car.
Adding Heating controls vents was a Piece of Cake and this thing looks amazing
Tested:
Screen: Fast and gorgeous responsive, seems very good in bright sunlight
capacitive buttons:, work well , Reset and reprogrammed and much better. Also Illumination is working with custom colors.
Well Documented low volume buzz... Yep it's there, goes away if you mute the radio. Will look for setting to reduce perhaps as well as talk to IDoing
Harman Kardon Canbus, Works plug and play. One issue that may be related is the Fade controls don't really work to fade to rear as they mute the rear, while balance controls work fine... Talking to IDoing now and they just confirmed that any factory amp radio has this issue.
Wifi 5ghz tether, works flawlessly, get 50mbit off my cell. Not the fastest but more than good enough
Play store/google account setup: works flawlessly. Have installed several apps already
Waze/GPS: works flawlessly
USB: 3 dongles, all work for USB Drives, haven't tested for phone connection
Flac: Works off all 3 usb(one main reason I went with this unit)
4g: Working well with t-mobile, not working with verizon. Verizon shows as full bars, bars when I went more urban, but there are no APN settings and I cant get data to work.
Bluetooth audio: works ok, sound doesn't seem fantastic, but i will probably never use.
Android Auto: Wired works great, can't get wireless to work even though my phone says the head unit supports it. Wired it's very fast and responsive and looks great.
Carplay: works wired and woreless, didn't test much as I don't use apple except for app testing.
Fubo/Video: Works very well screen is gorgeous
Developer options: IDoing gave me codes
Launcher: Pretty flexible with different options.
Got USB Debugging, ADB to work today. In developer setting there is 3 "..." at the top, in there is USB mode, top is host mode, bottom is device mode(ADB).
Once I got ADB going I got SystemUITuner granted permissions to control immersive mode for Waze and the like.
Custom Launcher: Got custom launchers working with a trick to use the setting in Nova to set default launcher. Now Rocking Car Web Guru launcher. Also Like Car Launcher Free Version.
Split screen : woks well and is even remembered as last view on soft boot.
Geekbench: 500+, 1300+ very pleased.
android auto with Head unit reloaded: tested with dev server method. Works well with wireless, but UI layout is pretty bad.
Console USB Adapter: Bought from amazon, works perfectly. Now 4 functioning USB
USB access for File Manager : doesn't work yet
Music Apps: do have access to USB
Automation: Used Macrodroid to start Android auto whenever the phone usb is plugged in, or to start spotifiy if no usb and wifi connects. Will do some more of these.
Overall:
Bummed about the rear speaker control, will have to see how much it affects my listening, found subwoofer control an tweaked EQ, sound is quite nice, still wish fade worked. Ok next note to others, make sure you calibrate your EQ with your back seats up. I forgot I had put them down to get my bike in and that was half my disappointment with the sound. Yes I still wish I had fade, but this thing sounds Really nice once dialed in.
The buzz is "irritating" that it exists, but unlikely a real issue for me.. Totally inaudible when car is running.
Otherwise this thing is pretty sweet so far.
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What a good review!!!
Really "irritating" the permanent buzz. Only dissapear with volume to zero every time I turn on the unit. If somebody find a fix i will be more than happy
JAR99 said:
What a good review!!!
Really "irritating" the permanent buzz. Only dissapear with volume to zero every time I turn on the unit. If somebody find a fix i will be more than happy
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Yes I agree, at tis point it's the only real gripe I have with the unit. The thing is amazing compared to the crap that Subaru put in.
The issue seems to be pretty common on these chinese units, which is why if I didn't have the HK setup I would have bought one with Optical or Coax. Honestly you can't hear it when listening to music, but... If I ever pull the unit out again I will try to ground the board to see what that does.
IDoing has "tried" to be helpful, and they are extremely responsive on aliexpress.
I'm glad you found my review useful.
So I managed to get APN setting for verizon to stick, and I ca see the verizon network if I use a replacement mobile network settings like from CWG, however even though it will connect and I have the APN it sitll won't get any mobile data on the verizon network. I'm beginning to think they have it hardcoded in the System to only work with t-mobile. Either that or Verizon is rejecting data requests from the device even tough it lets it connect. I've tried with both true Verizon Sim and an Xfinity Mobile Sim(Both verizon, but different APNs).
gottahavit said:
Yes I agree, at tis point it's the only real gripe I have with the unit. The thing is amazing compared to the crap that Subaru put in.
The issue seems to be pretty common on these chinese units, which is why if I didn't have the HK setup I would have bought one with Optical or Coax. Honestly you can't hear it when listening to music, but... If I ever pull the unit out again I will try to ground the board to see what that does.
IDoing has "tried" to be helpful, and they are extremely responsive on aliexpress.
I'm glad you found my review useful.
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Do these buzz even if you don't have the hk?
speeddemon1891 said:
Do these buzz even if you don't have the hk?
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I believe they do, only way around it without playing with internals is to get one with the coax or optical out and use that, then it's digital to your amp.
gottahavit said:
I believe they do, only way around it without playing with internals is to get one with the coax or optical out and use that, then it's digital to your amp.
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Think it might be possible to add some kind of pass-through filter/adapter to the RCA leads which could help reduce or eliminate the buzz?