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I'm curious as to how this all works for the US. Just making sure I got things accurate here.
1. Chinese version = no Google, International version = Google?
2. International Version launches how much later than initial Chinese models?
3. Looking at the bands, the 8/256 model supports band 13 (VZW). Is this still not the international model?
4. Best place to snag one?
5. International model recommended?
6. Anything else I need to know?
Lol thanks all!!!

1) if we follow the Mi Mix 2 and Mi Mix 2S hardware wise the international and Chinese version will be the same. Just the OS is different. Chinese version has indeed no Google apps. However they can be added using an app from Miui market or reflashed with global firmware
2) International should launch 8th Nov together with Xiaomi entering the UK
3) Like above, the models will probably be the same, for EU all importants bands are supported on the different variants
4) A true international model you get via international channels (Amazon etc). 'Global' devices bought in China are mostly Chinese versions flashed with global firmware
5) Personal preference, I'd say the one with the most bands (8GB)

Vin87 said:
1) if we follow the Mi Mix 2 and Mi Mix 2S hardware wise the international and Chinese version will be the same. Just the OS is different. Chinese version has indeed no Google apps. However they can be added using an app from Miui market or reflashed with global firmware
2) International should launch 8th Nov together with Xiaomi entering the UK
3) Like above, the models will probably be the same, for EU all importants bands are supported on the different variants
4) A true international model you get via international channels (Amazon etc). 'Global' devices bought in China are mostly Chinese versions flashed with global firmware
5) Personal preference, I'd say the one with the most bands (8GB)
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Thank you sir. As far as pricing goes, is it typically cheaper to buy from China or from Amazon?

Vin87 said:
1) if we follow the Mi Mix 2 and Mi Mix 2S hardware wise the international and Chinese version will be the same. Just the OS is different. Chinese version has indeed no Google apps. However they can be added using an app from Miui market or reflashed with global firmware
2) International should launch 8th Nov together with Xiaomi entering the UK
3) Like above, the models will probably be the same, for EU all importants bands are supported on the different variants
4) A true international model you get via international channels (Amazon etc). 'Global' devices bought in China are mostly Chinese versions flashed with global firmware
5) Personal preference, I'd say the one with the most bands (8GB)
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O cool that's what I've ordered and yes it's simple to install Google play store.
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idkwhothatis123 said:
Thank you sir. As far as pricing goes, is it typically cheaper to buy from China or from Amazon?
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£550+ postage is what I paid 8gb 256, it says no import duty for eu, will have to wait and see. Shipping after 1st November, what does that even mean, how far after the 1st November

james1089 said:
O cool that's what I've ordered and yes it's simple to install Google play store.
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£550+ postage is what I paid 8gb 256, it says no import duty for eu, will have to wait and see. Shipping after 1st November, what does that even mean, how far after the 1st November
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Where'd you buy?

idkwhothatis123 said:
Where'd you buy?
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AliExpress

idkwhothatis123 said:
Thank you sir. As far as pricing goes, is it typically cheaper to buy from China or from Amazon?
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I think the current aliexpress prices are pretty much the same as the global Amazon prices, but only time will tell. These xiaomi devices tend to drop quite a bit in price in the first months, I decided to wait until atleast the Chinese holidays like 11-11 or black Friday before ordering one.

Anyone on VZW?

Vin87 said:
I think the current aliexpress prices are pretty much the same as the global Amazon prices, but only time will tell. These xiaomi devices tend to drop quite a bit in price in the first months, I decided to wait until atleast the Chinese holidays like 11-11 or black Friday before ordering one.
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I didn't see that with mix 1, then I again they were hard to come by, the s8+ dropped more in few months than the mix has in 2 year's, granted the s8+ has held up since, the more you pay the more you loose

Just bought as a new customer on aliexpress thru the Xiaomi Store. I paid 622 for the 8gb/ 128Gb version.
Hope it comes soon! I just could not wait any longer.
How exactly do I app the google play store? Thanks so much!

Vin87 said:
1) if we follow the Mi Mix 2 and Mi Mix 2S hardware wise the international and Chinese version will be the same. Just the OS is different. Chinese version has indeed no Google apps. However they can be added using an app from Miui market or reflashed with global firmware
2) International should launch 8th Nov together with Xiaomi entering the UK
3) Like above, the models will probably be the same, for EU all importants bands are supported on the different variants
4) A true international model you get via international channels (Amazon etc). 'Global' devices bought in China are mostly Chinese versions flashed with global firmware
5) Personal preference, I'd say the one with the most bands (8GB)
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1 - Where did you see this date? *Didn't saw anywhere
2 - Why are you saying 8gb come with all bands? Mix 3 will come in 2 variants, Chinese 6 ,8 and 10gb *only netcom*, Global 6,8gb full network. And 5G variant
3 - The china do not sell the global? Usually i buy it in chinese store at China, but this time i want global version.
4 - jd.com says in 11.11.2018 they will sell the Special Edition variant

thiagoserrao said:
1 - Where did you see this date? *Didn't saw anywhere
2 - Why are you saying 8gb come with all bands? Mix 3 will come in 2 variants, Chinese 6 ,8 and 10gb *only netcom*, Global 6,8gb full network. And 5G variant
3 - The china do not sell the global? Usually i buy it in chinese store at China, but this time i want global version.
4 - jd.com says in 11.11.2018 they will sell the Special Edition variant
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1) one of the tech websites had a notice that Xiaomi came the 8th to the UK and would launch their flagship MI mix 3 there, that would follow the same pattern as with the MI mix 2 in Spain last year. Of course they could also just launch their MI 8 flagship and thus the info is wrong.
2) for the Netherlands I only care about band 8 and 20, these are supported by both variants if I recall correctly
3) you'll have to be carefull with buying a global one in China, most are Chinese versions with a vendor rom.

Vin87 said:
1) one of the tech websites had a notice that Xiaomi came the 8th to the UK and would launch their flagship MI mix 3 there, that would follow the same pattern as with the MI mix 2 in Spain last year. Of course they could also just launch their MI 8 flagship and thus the info is wrong.
2) for the Netherlands I only care about band 8 and 20, these are supported by both variants if I recall correctly
3) you'll have to be carefull with buying a global one in China, most are Chinese versions with a vendor rom.
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Humm, understood now.
I don't think buying in China i'll have the shop rom, because i'll buy in Xiaomi store or JD, that is a reseller from Xiaomi, like taobao. But thanks for the info.

Xiaomi Launched in Ireland last week but only with the Mi Mix 2s, RedMi 6 and RedMi Note 5, so I would guess UK will get similar. Fingers crossed for Mi Mix 3

bobsthegod said:
Xiaomi Launched in Ireland last week but only with the Mi Mix 2s, RedMi 6 and RedMi Note 5, so I would guess UK will get similar. Fingers crossed for Mi Mix 3
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With the UK launch event on Thursday in London, they said they are launching a new flagship device. People are assuming it will be the MI Mix 3, but it could also be the MI 8. We will see I guess. T-minus 2 days...

Global release

Any info about a global release ?

Another question:.
Will the European version have the same rom? Because most languages are already supported on the Chinese version?
Will it be likely that LTE b7 and b20 bands be included?

I've never had a Huawei phone. What's the possibility of them being rooted or can custom roms be installed on them?

jtotti80 said:
I've never had a Huawei phone. What's the possibility of them being rooted or can custom roms be installed on them?
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They used to be. I had a Mate 9 and LOVED IT. But heard they don't provide bootloader unlock codes. You can buy unlock codes though.

def-g said:
They used to be. I had a Mate 9 and LOVED IT. But heard they don't provide bootloader unlock codes. You can buy unlock codes though.
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I read about that too. But that just means you have to pay more for the phone basically (extra $55 for the unlock code). Unless somebody finds a way to unlock the bootloader without asking for money. I like the Honor Magic 2 better than the MI MIX 3 but the Mi Mix is more developer friendly

Oh... No band 20 support is a bit of a killer :/

krolkrowa said:
Oh... No band 20 support is a bit of a killer :/
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There are quite a few bands in use in North America missing, sadly. I like the look of it, that it has a wide-angle lens, but the Mi Mix 3 just has so much better global compatibility.

jcsww said:
There are quite a few bands in use in North America missing, sadly. I like the look of it, that it has a wide-angle lens, but the Mi Mix 3 just has so much better global compatibility.
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Here for use in EU it has all the bands I would need except band 20 sadly... The Mix 3 only advantage I think is the global compatibility and bigger modding community

krolkrowa said:
Here for use in EU it has all the bands I would need except band 20 sadly... The Mix 3 only advantage I think is the global compatibility and bigger modding community
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Xiaomi devices do get some good ROM's. I just wish the Mi Mix 3 had a wide-angle lens and the in-screen fingerprint reader. Then again, the Mi Mix 3 is a lot cheaper by comparison as well and it comes in green!

DimTag said:
Any info about a global release ?
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I have tried searching online for any sign of a global release or a global rom update. No luck.
Anyone have any info on that?

hussainmithaiwala said:
I have tried searching online for any sign of a global release or a global rom update. No luck.
Anyone have any info on that?
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Yes, according Huawei/honor the Honor Magic 2 will not be released outside China.

dragon-tmd said:
Yes, according Huawei/honor the Honor Magic 2 will not be released outside China.
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Hopefully Huawei changes their mind. I like the look of the Honor Magic 2 better than the Mi Mix 3 and I would prefer to have a wide-angle camera as well. The Mi Mix 3 though has excellent global band support though, which is important for those of us who live in North America.

Answer from official UK Honor Support :
Dear Nik,
Thank you for contacting Honor Support - UK .
The Honor Magic 2 is available, as you stated only in the Asian regions.
You will not be able to buy the device from Asia and make it compatible with the European markets.
This is because we create devices that are locked in certain regions and this is not changeable.
As of now we do not have a release date or idea if there will be one for the UK market.
If you wish to get any other information about Honor UK devices, I am more than glad to answer you.
Should you have any further inquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Ben
Honor Support - Customer Care UK

UK Flagship release is...

The Mi 8 Explorer.
https://m.facebook.com/xiaomiglobal/
Fml... Guess I'm buying the CN Mix3 lol

https://event.mi.com/uk/launch2018/smartlife
Xiaomi UK Launch Event
November 8th, 2:00PM | London
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEdtnuyj9zo

idkwhothatis123 said:
The Mi 8 Explorer.
https://m.facebook.com/xiaomiglobal/
Fml... Guess I'm buying the CN Mix3 lol
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Damn. they've posted a pic on Facebook too, it was the outline of a device and it says "Try guessing what device this is". People commented "Mix 3" and Xiaomi replied saying "guess again"...
What a horrible shame.
Do you think a CN Mix 3 will be fully compatible in the UK? I know the Bands for LTE should be fine, but I'm thinking about mobile banking apps, google pay, etc?...

I'm considering getting this phone next

I was surprised how well this phone is supported on XDA and it looks quite good on paper, i have 1 question i cannot find answer to:
Does this phone support Carrier Aggregation in Europe? (4G+)

It you buy EU version then yes. If you buy India, China (RMQ) or any other version than EU then definitely not. So I heard.

greenys' said:
It you buy EU version then yes. If you buy India, China (RMQ) or any other version than EU then definitely not. So I heard.
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It's a small world.. lol.

k3lcior said:
It's a small world.. lol.
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I am also planning buying this mobile in Pakistan. Here mostly Global Version are released. Is eu global version?

waqar bukhari said:
I am also planning buying this mobile in Pakistan. Here mostly Global Version are released. Is eu global version?
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Yes i think so, homever i got Mi 9 Lite (got really nice deal 6/128GB variant for $205)

k3lcior said:
Yes i think so, homever i got Mi 9 Lite (got really nice deal 6/128GB variant for $205)
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Nice. But in my country mi 9 lite 6gb and realme xt 8gb are similarly priced. If I decides to increase my budget then I will go for realme xt. Sd712 over sd710.

According to realme support no it doesn't.
Also I'm based in Italy and can confirm you there is no sign of 4g+ even though I live near a Tri-Band bts (3-7-20) and my place is full of two and three bands bts.
Considering to return the phone for exactly this reason. My old op3t had full 4g+ in the same position

k3lcior said:
It's a small world.. lol.
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Indeed, friend.
Ormad said:
According to realme support no it doesn't.
Also I'm based in Italy and can confirm you there is no sign of 4g+ even though I live near a Tri-Band bts (3-7-20) and my place is full of two and three bands bts.
Considering to return the phone for exactly this reason. My old op3t had full 4g+ in the same position
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I still can't believe eu version doesn't support 4g+. I mean did you check sites if they show whether or not this device supports it or not? I mean I definitely did before buying but I only see which bands does the device support. Not the technology (3g and 4g is present but I don't see 4g+). If you didn't check for it then why did you buy? If you did check but it was written to be present but it is not, shouldn't you get s full refund or device return + refund??

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I still can't believe eu version doesn't support 4g+. I mean did you check sites if they show whether or not this device supports it or not? I mean I definitely did before buying but I only see which bands does the device support. Not the technology (3g and 4g is present but I don't see 4g+). If you didn't check for it then why did you buy? If you did check but it was written to be present but it is not, shouldn't you get s full refund or device return + refund??
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I can't believe it either, it was a BIG surprise to see it lacks it. In 2019, ANY and i mean ANY device you buy got a form of CA, even a Huawei MTK I just bought for dad for 99 euros. Of course this is also specified, for example as you can see there is mention for LTE-A (which is LTE+)
https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_5_pro-9801.php
I couldn't believe it so I sent an email to Realme customer service asking if the phone indeed supported LTE-A like specified and like supported by its chipset (snapdragon 712 is a 3*20mhz capable chipset) and they replied "realme 5 pro doesn't support LTE+"
Then, after more than TEN days, they replied again to the same email by saying that they were sorry for the previous reply and that the phone DOES support LTE+ (is this a professional service?)
I asked them how I can check which bands gets aggregated and why there is no sign of a 4g+ or lte+ icons like all other phones and... they never replied
I've read around that Realme support is a total crap, but I really tried and hoped they can answer about specs of a phone they produce and sell directly.
To dig further another guy here on xda sent some network guru screenshots where it is clearly shown that it only can catch a single band and not multiple.
So at this point I'm thinking about it. I've got until 31/01/2020 to be able to get a full refund but kinda I still like the phone speed, but this network problem and the camera (which is the worst 48Mpixel sensor I've ever tried, but it seems to be a software issue) kills my willingness to keep it. I was also waiting if any new update can fix either of the problems so I guess I'll wait a lil more, but still I can't advice to buy this phone. Xiaomi on the same price level doesn't have any of these major issues even though their chipsets are a little behind.

Ormad said:
I can't believe it either, it was a BIG surprise to see it lacks it. In 2019, ANY and i mean ANY device you buy got a form of CA, even a Huawei MTK I just bought for dad for 99 euros. Of course this is also specified, for example as you can see there is mention for LTE-A (which is LTE+)
https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_5_pro-9801.php
I couldn't believe it so I sent an email to Realme customer service asking if the phone indeed supported LTE-A like specified and like supported by its chipset (snapdragon 712 is a 3*20mhz capable chipset) and they replied "realme 5 pro doesn't support LTE+"
Then, after more than TEN days, they replied again to the same email by saying that they were sorry for the previous reply and that the phone DOES support LTE+ (is this a professional service?)
I asked them how I can check which bands gets aggregated and why there is no sign of a 4g+ or lte+ icons like all other phones and... they never replied
I've read around that Realme support is a total crap, but I really tried and hoped they can answer about specs of a phone they produce and sell directly.
To dig further another guy here on xda sent some network guru screenshots where it is clearly shown that it only can catch a single band and not multiple.
So at this point I'm thinking about it. I've got until 31/01/2020 to be able to get a full refund but kinda I still like the phone speed, but this network problem and the camera (which is the worst 48Mpixel sensor I've ever tried, but it seems to be a software issue) kills my willingness to keep it. I was also waiting if any new update can fix either of the problems so I guess I'll wait a lil more, but still I can't advice to buy this phone. Xiaomi on the same price level doesn't have any of these major issues even though their chipsets are a little behind.
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Wow... Just wow. All these bits and pieces of info are priceless and shocking to me. Thank you. Me too, I prefer the speed of the phone, the battery and ufs file storage, furthermore vooc charging. Amazingly conformable for my hand as well. Overall I'm really in love with it but kind of hate it at the same tine. My major problems are camera and connectivity. Both are extremely crucial when you take a look at a smartphone. Btw even oneplus uses the same sensor as our device. A developer of rm5p guessed that perhaps the difference is using different lens, not the sensors. I'm not sure. Anyway, we know more now at least. It's a start.

waqar bukhari said:
Nice. But in my country mi 9 lite 6gb and realme xt 8gb are similarly priced. If I decides to increase my budget then I will go for realme xt. Sd712 over sd710.
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They are not similarly priced at all, mi 9 lite was on sale for 45,000 which is much cheaper than xt 54,000, sd712 vs sd710 very slight difference but 9 lite has its own advantages such as better selfie cam.
If you are looking to buy mi 9 lite box pack you can contact me, I can get you a good deal.

General Hurricane yellow xiaomi 13

I just got my Hurricane yellow xiaomi 13 today
I am so pumped about it
I got it from eBay and the seller unlocked the bootloader and pre-installed the EU rom.
Everything works Great! All the google services, android auto and the banking apps.
I even was surprised to get VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling out of the box.
The update via fastboot was surprisingly easy! and even that not all 4g and 3g bands are supported for me the signal is good and strong.
so if you have any questions feel free to ask.

Gankadin said:
I just got my Hurricane yellow xiaomi 13 today
I am so pumped about it
I got it from eBay and the seller unlocked the bootloader and pre-installed the EU rom.
Everything works Great! All the google services, android auto and the banking apps.
I even was surprised to get VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling out of the box.
The update via fastboot was surprisingly easy! and even that not all 4g and 3g bands are supported for me the signal is good and strong.
so if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Where are you located? Which version did you get (Global or China)?

I am from Israel.
This is the China version.
The 512 GB limited edition.

https://xiaomiplanets.com/xiaomi-13-limited-version/
This one

what's the difference if yo get Chinese version of the wine device, not just ROM?

I am note sure what is "wine" device.
Basically the main difference from Global version is the the band support ( you have better support in global version) and in China version you have 512 GB option ( Global max is 256) and for china market only you have special edition colors.

And especially no Esim.

But in global version there is no Esim as well, it's lacking feature on both versions and not difference...

Gankadin said:
But in global version there is no Esim as well, it's lacking feature on both versions and not difference...
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13 pro and 13 global have the ESIM.
Mi Global Home
Welcome to Xiaomi global official website to buy your favorite products. Here you can buy the latest Xiaomi smartphones, Redmi smartphones, Mi Bands, Power banks and other popular products, as well as various irregular discounts, all on mi.com/global.
www.mi.com

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13 pro and 13 global have the ESIM.
Mi Global Home
Welcome to Xiaomi global official website to buy your favorite products. Here you can buy the latest Xiaomi smartphones, Redmi smartphones, Mi Bands, Power banks and other popular products, as well as various irregular discounts, all on mi.com/global.
www.mi.com
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My bad, i was sure that this is not supported on both versions.

Gankadin said:
My bad, i was sure that this is not supported on both versions.
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And for those who have a CN version, no way to activate Esim or to recover the missing bands with a rom since it is at the H.W level.
Enable ESIM
No esim , 12T pro Miui Global 13.0.11.0.SLFEUXM
Does for Miui Global 13.0.11.0.SLFEUXM as no esim ?
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