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I've been rooting my Android phones since about 2012, but today I got a point of sale card reader for my business and I'm not having any luck hiding root from the app (square reader app). The app wont work at all so I tried a number of options in magisk manager (magisk hide the app, hide magisk manager, enable core mode only) rebooting between each try and clearing the square reader app data and setting it up fresh each time, but still no luck
I tried to uninstall magisk but the app still didn't work. So I eventually flashed back to stock and got rid of magisk all together, now the app works but I don't have root...
I tried installing magisk again after I got the app to work and hiding root from the app before I opened it up again, but it still somehow knew the device was rooted
Can anyone suggest anything I haven't tried? Or is there an alternative to rooting the OnePlus 6 (other than magisk) and hiding root? I had a bit of a look around but didn't find anything.
Thanks
I had to go back to 18.0, heard 18.2 works as well.
qbanlinxx said:
I had to go back to 18.0, heard 18.2 works as well.
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Thanks for your reply. I tried with 18.0, damn, it still doesn't work, it still picks up that the phone is rooted
I tried the 18.2 canary build as well (18.2-e72c6685) no luck either
This app must be looking somewhere out of the ordinary for evidence of root in the phone
I have a bank application and facing the same problem. Hope someone can help us to make applications run by hiding the root
I think recent applications are looking for if knox security is tripped !! so in this case Magisk will not help
Ooohhh had to subscribe to this as I face the exact same issue!! Been trying to get my Square reader to work for a while with root and could never figure out how they are detecting root. Using Pixel XL here
Google changed something in Safety Net in play services, it passes, yet for me, google pay fails. That COULD be the issue, though I read 18.2 fixes that. Another option I helped a friend with is if it's detecting magisk itself via the files, culprit here was pokemon go.
Try opening your Magisk settings, the tick "hide magisk manager" clear the repo cache, and rename or delete the MagiskManager folder on the root of your storage. Reboot, clear data from the square app, and try again. Keep in mind, you have to unhide magisk to update it.
Skreelink said:
Google changed something in Safety Net in play services, it passes, yet for me, google pay fails. That COULD be the issue, though I read 18.2 fixes that. Another option I helped a friend with is if it's detecting magisk itself via the files, culprit here was pokemon go.
Try opening your Magisk settings, the tick "hide magisk manager" clear the repo cache, and rename or delete the MagiskManager folder on the root of your storage. Reboot, clear data from the square app, and try again. Keep in mind, you have to unhide magisk to update it.
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In my case, I dont think its detecting the files. The reason i say that is because I play Pokemon Go just fine with no issues. So whatever Square is doing, its something different then what PoGo is doing.
Idledev said:
In my case, I dont think its detecting the files. The reason i say that is because I play Pokemon Go just fine with no issues. So whatever Square is doing, its something different then what PoGo is doing.
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I agree, I have no problem hiding magisk and root from other apps, the square reader app must be somehow different. I've even gone through my storage and deleted any files or folders that might suggest the phone is rooted, but still no luck...
I also went into battery optimization settings to stop magisk from being put to sleep (which might stop magisk hide from working..?), that didn't work either.
I've found a temporary workaround to my problem anyway, I realized that I can share my internet (wifi hotspot) with my ipod touch, this way square reader works as the ipod touch isn't jailbroken or modified. It just means I have to carry around my ipod touch with me, which is a better trade off for me than having a stock, non root phone
Managed to get it working today! Upgraded my Pixel XL to the Android Q beta. By doing this, I had to run Magisk canary build. Installed square, enabled Magisk hide, rebooted and it worked fine! Not sure if the Android Q beta has anything to do with it,but give the canary builds of Magisk a try
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Managed to get it working today! Upgraded my Pixel XL to the Android Q beta. By doing this, I had to run Magisk canary build. Installed square, enabled Magisk hide, rebooted and it worked fine! Not sure if the Android Q beta has anything to do with it,but give the canary builds of Magisk a try
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That's awesome! What canary build did you use?
I tried the latest build a few weeks ago and it didn't work for me
Build 18120
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Build 18120
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No luck for me...
I updated to the latest canary build, cleared all data from square reader app, selected magisk hide, rebooted the device. After it booted up I tried to run it and it still detected root. I have a feeling that the OnePlus OS does something that doesn't totally allow me to hide root from the square reader app. It's annoying because for other apps root can be hidden
Maybe there's something in the Android Q build that lets you hide root better
Something that seems reliable right now on 18.1, Pixel Experience and OOS :
Combine Magisk Hide with Magisk "Core Mode". This seems to do the trick for now, Google Pay is triggered with normal mode, but works in Core Mode. Same for Snapchat and banking apps like N26.
But within this, you can't use any module.
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I also went into battery optimization settings to stop magisk from being put to sleep (which might stop magisk hide from working..?), that didn't work either.
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This is always a good idea, on OOS at least, Magisk being optimized sometimes prevents the granting of root rights to apps, it never reacts to kernel applications requesting root on startup for example.
There's an issue with Googlypay services apparently. You need to downgrade it (remove factory updates) so it's down to version 14.something and then it should work.
You need to disable admin rights and background data to try to prevent autoupdates as well. This thread may be useful?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...e-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703/post79155616
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There's an issue with Googlypay services apparently. You need to downgrade it (remove factory updates) so it's down to version 14.something and then it should work.
You need to disable admin rights and background data to try to prevent autoupdates as well. This thread may be useful?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...e-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703/post79155616
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Hmm, I'm running the magisk xXx ROM and google pay is completely debloated/removed. when I get a spare half hour I might try removing the xXx module and flashing back to stock and following the advice in that thread. I'll let you know how it goes
kage00 said:
Hmm, I'm running the magisk xXx ROM and google pay is completely debloated/removed. when I get a spare half hour I might try removing the xXx module and flashing back to stock and following the advice in that thread. I'll let you know how it goes
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Ummm yeah.. then the problem doesn't lie within Google pay it lies within the modifications that you are using.
I have to say I have never had any issues with Google pay or Android pay or any banking app using magisk. I don't even have to hide anyting. Of course I'm also not using any modified ROMs or kernels either
Hi guys,
I have this issue for a couple years now and I just cannot find a solution!
Google Pay, and 4 banking app from two different countries work fine with my 1+6 (stock ROM OOS 9.0.9 with magisk 19.4 - 7.3.4) but Square does not.
Did anyone find a solution?
Magisk config:
Magisk hide
Two modules OOS phone record and youtube
No core mode
All banking app and Square hidden
I was about to put this in the main discussion thread of FlashFire, but it was closed so i decided to post it here.
So this is what happened, i rooted my Xiaomi Redmi Go with Magisk, the latest one, and when i opened FlashFire, it basically said that i have root, but access couldn't be acquired. It added "Found root: 19.4:MAGISKSU".
It was said in the Supported roots that Magisk is included so can't i use this app? I also tried to change my SELinux to permissive mode by going to the terminal and putting "setenforce 0", and the app still won't let me.
Any solutions to this? I was about to do perform a live backup through this app because the current TWRP version for this device is defective for my phone, the Backup option doesn't work and I've been looking for ways to backup my phone without custom recovery, but still with root of course.
Any help would be appreciated, thankyou!
Flashfire is discontinued so it is no longer compatible with the latest versions of Magisk
You might try going back to a older Magisk. It's definitely going to be before 19.3 but it may need to be older than that. There are two ways of doing this.
Set a custom channel in Magisk manager (install the older manager first).
Download the older release. If you're not familiar with github, expand the assets link under the release you want. The zip files will be listed there.
Make sure to remove the newer Magisk first.
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Flashfire is discontinued so it is no longer compatible with the latest versions of Magisk
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So is there solution that i can bypass that error ?
I have a Motorola G 4 Plus, rooted SU 2.82, latest TWRP, Havoc 2.9, Android 9 Pie. Arm v7I.
Upon trying to install Youtube Vanced through the Vanced Manager, the app crashes and the install fails with the message "failed for unknown reason blah blah blah please go to the Telegraph Discord group" I can post a log file if needed.
After that ordeal, the Youtube app appears in my app drawer, when I try to open it it says "you don't have Google Play Services" and closes.
I tried this with micro-g installed, I disabled apk signature verification with Lucky Patcher, doesn't make a difference.
I even made sure to allow unknown sources and checked the permissions. No go.
I also tried the apks installer through the SIS installer or whatever its called, SAS, SAI or whatever, no luck.
Feels like my phone can go as far as to root and custom recovery and custom rom and busybox and such but continue to find myself in these annoying situations with no resolution. Other people seem to be able to get it to work though. Perhaps its the phone?
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Do you have magisk installed or are you using another solution for root? I saw your post about brave not working , may I suggest a rom reinstall? Try it with the microg gapps package.
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Do you have magisk installed or are you using another solution for root? I saw your post abou brave not working , may I suggest a rom reinstall? Try it with the microg gapps package
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Rooted with SU 2.82 flashed via TWRP and use SU app. Not magisk. Perhaps I'll try another ROM. Too bad Havoc seems really good customizable.
I originally forgot to wipe cache and dalvik/art cache after flashing the Havoc ROM so maybe that screwed things up, I'll try re-flashing.
I'd remove SU and use magisk 21.4 (not higher, and never update it ever).
when was 2.82 released ? it must be a long time ago now and I don't think it's recommended for anything anymore.
even without any root Vanced manager would install your microg and vanced just fine.
3mel said:
I'd remove SU and use magisk 21.4 (not higher, and never update it ever).
when was 2.82 released ? it must be a long time ago now and I don't think it's recommended for anything anymore.
even without any root Vanced manager would install your microg and vanced just fine.
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Super SU was last updated 2020 from my understanding.
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Super SU was last updated 2020 from my understanding.
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the last post in chainfire's superSU thread here is from 2018, it says just use magisk
big bad brad 31 said:
Super SU was last updated 2020 from my understanding.
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this is the last and latest version of SuperSU
SuperSU Download
it was released back in 2017 all other website that has SuperSU for downloads except that site are Unofficial Released
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I have a Motorola G 4 Plus, rooted SU 2.82, latest TWRP, Havoc 2.9, Android 9 Pie. Arm v7I.
Upon trying to install Youtube Vanced through the Vanced Manager, the app crashes and the install fails with the message "failed for unknown reason blah blah blah please go to the Telegraph Discord group" I can post a log file if needed.
After that ordeal, the Youtube app appears in my app drawer, when I try to open it it says "you don't have Google Play Services" and closes.
I tried this with micro-g installed, I disabled apk signature verification with Lucky Patcher, doesn't make a difference.
I even made sure to allow unknown sources and checked the permissions. No go.
I also tried the apks installer through the SIS installer or whatever its called, SAS, SAI or whatever, no luck.
Feels like my phone can go as far as to root and custom recovery and custom rom and busybox and such but continue to find myself in these annoying situations with no resolution. Other people seem to be able to get it to work though. Perhaps its the phone?
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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Try installing a custom rom based on A10 n see if this works out for u, it works perfectly on my g4+ on A10 ...
My phone is rooted with Magisk after installing TWRP recovery and it's working fine except banking apps which do not run due to rooted phone
I don't use functions of rooted phone so much, only in extracting whatsapp keys to backup my whatsapp chats etc
1) Can I uninstall/unroot Magisk anytime and reinstall/root again smoothly whenever the need arises?
2) Does installing/uninstalling root wipe data?
3) I saw following para in https://magiskmanager.com/uninstall-magisk
Your phone will be rebooted automatically. Don’t worry it is normal
That’s it! You have successfully uninstalled Magisk from your phone.
This process will completely delete all the files from your phone, and you don’t need to worry about anything.
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What's meaning of "This process will completely delete all the files from your phone" here?
Thanks & regards,
Maria.
AFAIK any tampering of a phone's Stock ROM can get detectected by banking / payment apps - if they want to. IMO the very only method to remove all traces of modifcations applied to phone's Stock ROM is to re-flash phone's Stock what in turn causes the loss of all user data stored on phone.
1) Can I uninstall/unroot Magisk anytime and reinstall/root again smoothly whenever the need arises?
Yes.
2) Does installing/uninstalling root wipe data?
No. As long as you're not locking/unlocking your bootloader, you should be fine. Always a good idea to back up your data and system bacakup since you have TWRP anyway.
3) I saw following para in https://magiskmanager.com/uninstall-magisk
I believe this is reffering to all the MAgisk data only.
Andrologic said:
1) Can I uninstall/unroot Magisk anytime and reinstall/root again smoothly whenever the need arises?
Yes.
2) Does installing/uninstalling root wipe data?
No. As long as you're not locking/unlocking your bootloader, you should be fine. Always a good idea to back up your data and system bacakup since you have TWRP anyway.
3) I saw following para in https://magiskmanager.com/uninstall-magisk
I believe this is reffering to all the MAgisk data only.
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Thank you very much for your reply
Maria2014 said:
I am having the same problem. I want to ask if you tried uninstall magisk ? What happened ?
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My dear, I install and uninstall Magisk all the time. Legitimately speaking, never once did it wipe my data ever. Unless you unlock or relock your bootloader, you will be completely fine.
Shabeeh Manappurath said:
My dear, I install and uninstall Magisk all the time. Legitimately speaking, never once did it wipe my data ever. Unless you unlock or relock your bootloader, you will be completely fine.
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Hi,
Could you advice pls.
After updating magisk it stopped working..
Shuld I uninstall it and then reinstall?
Will my modouls be earased? I am very worried taking this step..
Thanks in advance
tuvia_g123 said:
Hi,
Could you advice pls.
After updating magisk it stopped working..
Shuld I uninstall it and then reinstall?
Will my modouls be earased? I am very worried taking this step..
Thanks in advance
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My advise is, Incase you feel your modules will be erased, just take a screenshot of ur magisk Modules. Screenshot which you can use to later download the exact same modules. Or u can keep magisk module downloaded before hand. Now if magisk is not working, magisk Modules will not show for you.
If magisk is not working, you don't need to uninstall it. Just go to recovery and reflash the magisk.zip or magisk.apk. both will work, bcos that is how it is. Magisk.apk can be directly flashed from recovery menu. Once you reinstall magisk from recovery and it should start working. If after reboot, it is still not working, then just install magisk.apk while you are in android. (Not in recovery, but normal mode) and then open it and see what it says.
If I can help, I will surely. Let me know how it goes. Usually no data is erased. Don't worry. Magisk Modules or magisk, don't effect the system. U can also download magisk uninstaller.zip if you want to completely uninstall magisk.
Shabeeh Manappurath said:
My advise is, Incase you feel your modules will be erased, just take a screenshot of ur magisk Modules. Screenshot which you can use to later download the exact same modules. Or u can keep magisk module downloaded before hand. Now if magisk is not working, magisk Modules will not show for you.
If magisk is not working, you don't need to uninstall it. Just go to recovery and reflash the magisk.zip or magisk.apk. both will work, bcos that is how it is. Magisk.apk can be directly flashed from recovery menu. Once you reinstall magisk from recovery and it should start working. If after reboot, it is still not working, then just install magisk.apk while you are in android. (Not in recovery, but normal mode) and then open it and see what it says.
If I can help, I will surely. Let me know how it goes. Usually no data is erased. Don't worry. Magisk Modules or magisk, don't effect the system. U can also download magisk uninstaller.zip if you want to completely uninstall magisk.
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Thank you very much for your detailed and clear answer.
In the next few days I will find time and try.
Of course I will update you.
tuvia_g123 said:
Thank you very much for your detailed and clear answer.
In the next few days I will find time and try.
Of course I will update you.
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Alright Dear, take your time, and let me know, I hope everything works out for you. And Your Welcome
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Alright Dear, take your time, and let me know, I hope everything works out for you. And Your Welcome
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Hello dear friend,
Looks like I deleted the original zip file.
Can you pls. attach a link that wont be malware of a magisk zip?
Thanks a lot
tuvia_g123 said:
Hello dear friend,
Looks like I deleted the original zip file.
Can you pls. attach a link that wont be malware of a magisk zip?
Thanks a lot
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The best, and only official place to download magisk from is GitHub. At least I think. And well there is one another website I download it from, it's not malware, but I will provide you with the GitHub link itself.
For Magisk v23.0 (One with MagiskHide)(This release also has online module repo, where you can download extra supported modules for your device from online repo of magisk)
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v23.0/Magisk-v23.0.apk
For Magisk v25.2 (It does not have MagiskHide, but this is much more better, and there are more effective ways to hide root using Zygisk (new feature in Magisk v24 onwards I believe) (This one does not have Online Repo for Magisk modules, it was also removed in a previous version of Magisk, and you can use Fox's Magisk Modules manager if you want to access and download magisk Modules for any of the future releases for Magisk) If you want the link for Magisk v25.2 then here it is:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v25.2/Magisk-v25.2.apk
Just if u face any difficulty in flashing the apk file in recovery, just rename it to magisk v23/v25.2 (whichever u choose, I kinda recommend using the latest version) and rename it into . Zip. And if u plan on going with v25.2 and want to access the latest online repo and some of their own Magisk modules, then here is the link for the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager:
Release 0.6.1 - Maintenance Update · Fox2Code/FoxMagiskModuleManager
Add Androidacy test-mode fix to non test-mode Update Brazilian translations by @DanGLES3
github.com
I am currently using the latest Magisk v25.2 on my phone, and currently running on the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager as well. And also, using the method for hiding root that I mentioned before, I am completely successful in covering my root, and my safety net is passed. Completely Passed. Play store or any other app I don't want it detecting root, does not detect root. So we all good if you want to flash the latest update of Magisk.
Shabeeh Manappurath said:
The best, and only official place to download magisk from is GitHub. At least I think. And well there is one another website I download it from, it's not malware, but I will provide you with the GitHub link itself.
For Magisk v23.0 (One with MagiskHide)(This release also has online module repo, where you can download extra supported modules for your device from online repo of magisk)
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v23.0/Magisk-v23.0.apk
For Magisk v25.2 (It does not have MagiskHide, but this is much more better, and there are more effective ways to hide root using Zygisk (new feature in Magisk v24 onwards I believe) (This one does not have Online Repo for Magisk modules, it was also removed in a previous version of Magisk, and you can use Fox's Magisk Modules manager if you want to access and download magisk Modules for any of the future releases for Magisk) If you want the link for Magisk v25.2 then here it is:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v25.2/Magisk-v25.2.apk
Just if u face any difficulty in flashing the apk file in recovery, just rename it to magisk v23/v25.2 (whichever u choose, I kinda recommend using the latest version) and rename it into . Zip. And if u plan on going with v25.2 and want to access the latest online repo and some of their own Magisk modules, then here is the link for the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager:
Release 0.6.1 - Maintenance Update · Fox2Code/FoxMagiskModuleManager
Add Androidacy test-mode fix to non test-mode Update Brazilian translations by @DanGLES3
github.com
I am currently using the latest Magisk v25.2 on my phone, and currently running on the latest version of Fox's Magisk Modules manager as well. And also, using the method for hiding root that I mentioned before, I am completely successful in covering my root, and my safety net is passed. Completely Passed. Play store or any other app I don't want it detecting root, does not detect root. So we all good if you want to flash the latest update of Magisk.
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Hi,
I prefer v 23 because it has the hide option builtin.
However after flashing it(i think succesfuli) i do not find any new app in my fhone..
tuvia_g123 said:
Hi,
I prefer v 23 because it has the hide option builtin.
However after flashing it(i think succesfuli) i do not find any new app in my fhone..
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Alright your preference is your own, but maybe hear me out, v23 will soon become outdated, as in some magisk Modules will stop working for it. And the magisk hide, according to the founder of Magisk @topjohnwu, he said that magisk hide is become really ineffective in blocking root, or stopping apps from detecting root. If you want a more powerful version of Magisk hide, update to v25.2 and I will show you how to activate it step by step. It's not built-in, rather it is a new module. So yeah.
Alright and about your question; if you don't find the app in your phone, in your apps drawer, just open file explorer, go to the location where u have kept the magisk.zip file or magisk.apk file. If u have the apk file then just install it once more, from android while in normal mode. If you have the zip file, then just rename to .APK and install it same like above. Then open magisk to continue (mostly after proper install, magisk will reboot your phone once more). Any steps you are stuck in, pls sent me a screenshot, so that I can help.
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Alright your preference is your own, but maybe hear me out, v23 will soon become outdated, as in some magisk Modules will stop working for it. And the magisk hide, according to the founder of Magisk @topjohnwu, he said that magisk hide is become really ineffective in blocking root, or stopping apps from detecting root. If you want a more powerful version of Magisk hide, update to v25.2 and I will show you how to activate it step by step. It's not built-in, rather it is a new module. So yeah.
Alright and about your question; if you don't find the app in your phone, in your apps drawer, just open file explorer, go to the location where u have kept the magisk.zip file or magisk.apk file. If u have the apk file then just install it once more, from android while in normal mode. If you have the zip file, then just rename to .APK and install it same like above. Then open magisk to continue (mostly after proper install, magisk will reboot your phone once more). Any steps you are stuck in, pls sent me a screenshot, so that I can help.
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Hi,i took your advice and flashed v. 25.2, however i think that the installation failed..
tuvia_g123 said:
Hi,i took your advice and flashed v. 25.2, however i think that the installation failed..
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Hey, I see, okay use magisk uninstaller to completely remove v23 first, and then flash v25.2 afterwards.
From what I researched, it seems u can easily uninstall magisk by renaming magisk v25.2.apk (the file we downloaded) rename it into uninstall.zip
And then reboot to recovery, flash it from recovery to completely uninstall magisk v23. (Make a copy of the file before renaming into uninstall.zip.) that way we can flash v25.2.apk /v25.2.zip directly.
Hope everything works for you.
Shabeeh Manappurath said:
Hey, I see, okay use magisk uninstaller to completely remove v23 first, and then flash v25.2 afterwards.
Just to be sure,v. 23 that I want to uninstall not to rename?
From what I researched, it seems u can easily uninstall magisk by renaming magisk v25.2.apk (the file we downloaded) rename it into uninstall.zip
And then reboot to recovery, flash it from recovery to completely uninstall magisk v23. (Make a copy of the file before renaming into Uninstall.zip.) that waysure that I understood.. we can flash v25.2.apk /v25.2.zip directly.
not sure that i understands.
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Hope everything workNs for you.
Hey, I see, okay use magisk uninstaller to completely remove v23 first, and then flash v25.2 afterwards.
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From what I researched, it seems u can easily uninstall magisk by renaming magisk v25.2.apk (the file we downloaded) rename it into uninstall.zip
And then reboot to recovery, flash it from recovery to completely uninstall magisk v23. (Make a copy of the file before renaming into uninstall.zip.) that way we can flash v25.2.apk /v25.2.zip directly.
Hope everything works for you.
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Not sure that I understood.
Not to rename Version 23 that I want to uninstall?
Rename v25 that we want to keep?
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1XvA2wCzCfSgQGJRgzJ-yklOYn99DDjBQ
Just Flash that, in order to uninstall Magisk from your device. And then, install the latest Magisk v25.2
Shabeeh Manappurath said:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1XvA2wCzCfSgQGJRgzJ-yklOYn99DDjBQ
Just Flash that, in order to uninstall Magisk from your device. And then, install the latest Magisk v25.2
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Hi dear,
First of all thank you again.
After flashing this when i am entering again to recovery I don't get the screen of twarp as before.
However installation of v. 25.2 (in recovery)failed again..
Atached screen shots.
It updated today, and now I can't open it and I keep getting error messages to say it keeps stopping.
I'd been holding off on the update because I knew there was something going on with the developer going to Google and all the root/hide stuff being disabled. Not sure how to roll back or what to do.
koberulz said:
It updated today, and now I can't open it and I keep getting error messages to say it keeps stopping.
I'd been holding off on the update because I knew there was something going on with the developer going to Google and all the root/hide stuff being disabled. Not sure how to roll back or what to do.
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Can you uninstall Magisk and install the stable or last working canary app?
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Can you uninstall Magisk and install the stable or last working canary app?
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No clue, I'm not sure what its status is these days. That's why I was hesitant to update (I've also been knocking back the Android 12 system update for the same reason).
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No clue, I'm not sure what its status is these days. That's why I was hesitant to update (I've also been knocking back the Android 12 system update for the same reason).
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You can't uninstall the Magisk app; like from the App section in Settings or app info of the app? I'm not talking about the applied Magisk patched boot image.
Because I'm thinking you can just uninstall the Magisk app (as it's glitching and force closing), and try installing the stable or earlier canary builds...
simplepinoi177 said:
You can't uninstall the Magisk app; like from the App section in Settings or app info of the app? I'm not talking about the applied Magisk patched boot image.
Because I'm thinking you can just uninstall the Magisk app (as it's glitching and force closing), and try installing the stable or earlier canary builds...
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I don't know how that would affect root, or Magisk hide, as I know a lot of that has been nuked since topjohnwu got hired at Google.
I also currently have Magisk hiding itself, which may make even an uninstall difficult if I even knew what to install over the top of it.
koberulz said:
I don't know how that would affect root, or Magisk hide, as I know a lot of that has been nuked since topjohnwu got hired at Google.
I also currently have Magisk hiding itself, which may make even an uninstall difficult if I even knew what to install over the top of it.
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Uninstalling the Magisk Manager app would not affect root; you might not be able to run certain rooted apps properly without granting them root access, but that's because of not having the Magisk app to grant it.
I don't know about topjohnwu being hired and working for Google or what not, but Magisk is still being currently worked on and developed so it has not been "nuked"...
How is Magisk Manager hidden "itself" if you claim you attempt to run the app and it force-closes? The only way for Magisk Manager to "hide itself" is that it merely renames itself (to a name you can choose; default is "Settings") so it's not detected by any root detection. In any case, you should be able to find it in the Apps list in Settings/Apps, and uninstall it that way.
As to what to install over the top of it, installing the latest stable 25.2 would be the best idea -- the Magisk App does not need to match the version that is patched and flashed to your boot partition...
simplepinoi177 said:
I don't know about topjohnwu being hired and working for Google or what not, but Magisk is still being currently worked on and developed so it has not been "nuked"...
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My understanding was that he got hired and they said he had to give it up, there was some negotiation and they let him continue working on it as long as Magisk Hide was removed as a feature.
But this isn't something that really interests me all that much, so I don't keep up with the news on it. I more just check in whenever I get a new phone in order to figure out how to root it.
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How is Magisk Manager hidden "itself" if you claim you attempt to run the app and it force-closes? The only way for Magisk Manager to "hide itself" is that it merely renames itself (to a name you can choose; default is "Settings")
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Yes, this is what I was referring to.
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Yes, this is what I was referring to.
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It updated today, and now I can't open it and I keep getting error messages to say it keeps stopping.
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Again, I ask, as you stated; you try to open it -- so you must know what name it's under then (even though it's hidden since it being hidden is just it hiding its name) -- and it keeps force closing or stopping... so why can't you find the app details and uninstall it?
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Again, I ask, as you stated; you try to open it -- so you must know what name it's under then (even though it's hidden since it being hidden is just it hiding its name) -- and it keeps force closing or stopping... so why can't you find the app details and uninstall it?
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Because I don't know how that will affect root/hide. I'm not sure what the status of Magisk is these days.
koberulz said:
Because I don't know how that will affect root/hide. I'm not sure what the status of Magisk is these days.
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Magisk is pretty much the only way to root at this point -- I just learnt of another method KernelSU, but it seems pretty basic, especially in comparison to Magisk -- and the status of Magisk is that it is still very much active and actively developed; as it is the sole rooting method for numerous Android running devices, not just Pixels.
Your original issue is that Magisk Manager isn't working properly after updating and seems to be freezing/force-closing. The standard way of fixing that is to uninstall/remove the Magisk Manager app and re-install it (either the stable version or an earlier canary version that had worked previously).
Removing Magisk Manager app will NOT affect root and/or the patched boot partition. It WILL affect granting apps root access and will affect Magisk Hide (or Zygisk DenyList) -- but that will only last as far/long as rebooting and re-installing the Magisk Manager app. Once you re-install it, you will gain all of that back; it is only momentarily lost in between the uninstallation and re-installation.
simplepinoi177 said:
Magisk is pretty much the only way to root at this point -- I just learnt of another method KernelSU, but it seems pretty basic, especially in comparison to Magisk -- and the status of Magisk is that it is still very much active and actively developed; as it is the sole rooting method for numerous Android running devices, not just Pixels.
Your original issue is that Magisk Manager isn't working properly after updating and seems to be freezing/force-closing. The standard way of fixing that is to uninstall/remove the Magisk Manager app and re-install it (either the stable version or an earlier canary version that had worked previously).
Removing Magisk Manager app will NOT affect root and/or the patched boot partition. It WILL affect granting apps root access and will affect Magisk Hide (or Zygisk DenyList) -- but that will only last as far/long as rebooting and re-installing the Magisk Manager app. Once you re-install it, you will gain all of that back; it is only momentarily lost in between the uninstallation and re-installation.
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Is there a dedicated Magisk thread? It's very difficult to find things on this forum, given how large it is.
koberulz said:
Is there a dedicated Magisk thread? It's very difficult to find things on this forum, given how large it is.
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There are 2 threads.
Magisk General Support / Discussion
This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases. All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread
forum.xda-developers.com
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
forum.xda-developers.com
What's the difference?
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What's the difference?
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There are 2 threads.
Magisk General Support / Discussion
This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases. All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread
forum.xda-developers.com
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
forum.xda-developers.com
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The first one is the first, general Magisk thread (that is still active and currently discussed). The second is as it is stated in the headline -- "This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk".
Most likely this is where you should go for your issues -- and to see how actively developed it is currently being.
It's just as you said, you've been away from rooting/Magisk for a while; the newer version of Magisk contains/employs Zygisk -- "Zygisk is new generation Magisk hide...Zygisk is what the Magisk developers call running Magisk in the Zygote Process of Android. The Zygote Process is the first process that the OS starts when it boots up, ... Since zygote starts first after system, it can hide root without sending data to apps." (source) As such, that's why a new thread was created and why it is sub-titled as "The Age of Zygisk"...
*but there are many more methods of hiding root than Zygisk (or in conjunction with); Shamiko, Magisk Delta, HideMyApp, etc.
In the end, I'm sure they'll suggest what I've suggested to you in some fashion -- you'll have to uninstall the Magisk Manager (hidden or not), and re-install the stable or earlier canary versions. But it'll be better coming from the people in that thread...
Good luck!